No ned to worry about lack of respect.
[QUOTE=SkyWalker13;2587066]America has become so politically correct that people no longer think for themselves or even express emotion for themselves. I would not worry about it. You have a pretty good setup banging another mongers girl. I would start each session off with reading his transgressions and then proceed from there.[/QUOTE]I can probably speak for the silent, vast majority of mongers (and non-mongers) that your status as a multi-lingual non-native is much respected, and even envied. I call out respect for your wisdom and advice.
As for myself, I am very curious as to what was in your CL ad that gifted you with scorned wife revenge sex.
No, I am VERY curious. If the CL Whiffle bat will help us hit the BP curve ball. Then I would like to be in the club! How did your ad read?
Political rage is the new American religion. And
THIS is why I want to retire in a hut on an island in a peaceful Central American country. No taxes, cheap native girls, and a peaceful hippy philosophy shared by my fellow expats and natives. No overly righteous, puritan hypocrite top-collar-buttoned assholery.
My time in Central America really was an epiphany that changed the way I look at life.
NOW. Let's get back to sharing knowledge about safe sexual pursuit.
[QUOTE=JaxTantricMan;2587178]And some of us even know what that refers to!! LOL.
All good, just trying for some levity and to stop this nonproductive nonsense and move on.
Recces is it everybody, finish up the Brojobs, brush the dirt off your knees, pull your big boy panties up and get back in the game.
Adult activities wait those who dare.
It's a new day.
I've always wondered, with so much of the world hating Americans and wanted nothing more than for them to be destroyed, why do Americans hate each other so? In all of my world travels and living I have NEVER seen a populace so discourtesy, rude and hateful to its own, except the ones suffering from civil war or genocide. In a land that prides itself on Free Speech, those who practice it sure pay the price with bullying, hateful rhetoric and bodily threats.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing illegal about
[QUOTE=TankerJo3;2588140]Is it safe to ask specific questions about a massage or body rub? Like how much for a half hour massage. And do you or can you accept the donation after massage?[/QUOTE]
Asking the cost of a massage or body rub. There's nothing wrong with asking about the amount of time you're paying for with a provider. The line is only CROSSED when you ask for some form (not just intercourse) of sexual gratification. Like: you play with your p-ssy and I'll jerk off. Even though you never touched her, there is still some form of sexual gratification involved or at least the talk of it.
In most cases, LEO will say something that appears innocuous; very subtle but again, no matter how innocuous it appears, STAY AWAY from those conversations!
Really guys, you must learn what the actual law says about prostitution. It is either the conversation about or agreement or the actual act of paying for some sexual act with money or something of monetary value. If you offer a salad for some sex act, you're toast! Again, STAY AWAY from that conversation!
Re Stewie:
This is why this topic is so vital! When I first read his account on this particular thread, it had the sounding of someone who just showed up and got arrested. Well then I read over in the other thread "stay away" and he said the lady asked him something and he said "sure" or something to that effect. He indicated he said it without thinking. I'm glad he decided to add this very important piece of information because it is of paramount importance to this topic.
Here is what I mean: as I've stated above, LEO will say something that does not sound as overt or explicit like: you give me 60 and I'll jerk you off.
This is explicit!
This is not so explicit: you give me 60 and I'll start from head first then to toe, then I'll finish in the middle where you'll be very HAPPY. Again, this is very subtle and one can read other things into these type conversations; it's a conversation that is rife with innuendos and ambiguity but nevertheless, can be interpreted as doing sexual favors for money by judge and jury.
You see, in your head you might say I didn't say anything wrong BUT this is why I say you must inventory everything you're going to say in your brain before it comes out of your mouth because it is those subtle words that you thought nothing of that can jam you!
This was not a simple show up and got arrested incident; this was the ole usual trick played by LEO and they caused this gentleman a lot of grief! This is why I discuss this issue extensively so that you guys are armed with enough information to avoid such issues and embarrassments! Some may understand enough with little explanation but others must be provided with more information until it clicks in their brain. Once you get to the place where you notice something is AMISS while talking to potential vice, you had better find a way to get the HELL out of there before you have a Freudian SLIP!
I'm stating this one last for a reason and that is: Your EARS need to be EXTREMELY KEEN to EVERY single word that comes out of that provider's mouth and anything that even REMOTELY sounds sexual, LEAVE!
You are very correct regarding state to state variations of the laws AND
[QUOTE=TallBear;2588765]Yes, it is indeed important to know what the laws say & even how they vary from state to state. Being smart & being careful while engaging in an activity that is really, let's face it, neither means that you do have to learn when & how to communicate your interests & desires.
For example, after your penis has been in her mouth, it is generally pretty safe to discuss her other orifices without fear of legal difficulties.
You're welcome.
And, on a no-shit, far more serious note, any of you legal beagles want to offer any perspectives on interstate commerce & how it applies to enjoying the hobby in a state in which you are not resident? For example, have you run afoul of interstate commerce laws if you are a Florida monger busted in Georgia or vice versa? The thought of the feds wanting a piece of this action really makes my blood run cold. They have skills & resources far beyond those of JSO.
There's a thought that'll wilt your pecker, sure enough.[/QUOTE]
I am glad you brought that up because I keep forgetting to add in my discourse that it does vary from state to state. My advice is to always research any particulars of any state you wish to play. For example, I tell the ladies and sometimes gents that if they ever desired to play in the state of NY, they are taking a huge risk. Why? Because in that particular state, if you ever got jammed up for solicitation and are found guilty, you can NEVER EVER get that record sealed- it's there for LIFE! At least it used to be that way and I haven't heard of any changes from that.
Here's another one, in the state of Cali, there is a law that works this way regarding SWers: say you are walking down any given street and a women is standing around, who obviously is a SWers (perhaps she dresses the part or something), there is a law on the books that says if LEO observes you stopping and talking to said SWer, they can arrest you for engaging in solicitation. I couldn't believe it myself but as you mentioned, one must be aware that the laws do vary from state to state. Even so, some counties might even have certain ordinances in place, like having a cut off time for visiting escorts. I haven't seen much of this but I heard it does exist.
As far as your question about the feds, they just did an FBI sting which netted some local gals on BP. It seems Darby may have been one of them caught up in that sting. Every now and then you hear about an FBI effort going on. Anyway, please note that much of what I know involves Florida and I apologize for not making that known. I will say that, for the most part, no matter where you go, that discussion of sex and money is the most common criteria used to determine if prostitution laws have been committed.
Speaking of the dangers of prostitution investigation
Take a look at this story that happened in Brevard county:
[URL]http://www.news4jax.com/news/brevard-deputy-critically-wounded-in-shooting/34839900[/URL]