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Is this an AMP.
Rates and what women you have seen please.
H. E. or just tease?
[QUOTE=GuitarMan;4224717]I have been there a few times. The massage is excellent and they do there share of tease. I usually park next door to the closed building. So far never disappointed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;4222474]Pay at the end seems logical to me but I am beginning to see it another way. It seems that some guys are paying in advance, including the tip as a way of communicating expected services without speaking. If you go an hour and prepay $, bet you just get a HJ. Give $. 5 in advance and see what you get. Yes there is risk for you that a HJ may be the only thing delivered but is it possible that your will likely get more. I hope the Pre-pay guys weigh in to tell their side of the story.[/QUOTE]I have talked to enough girls at the parlors to understand they get stiffed frequently, frequently enough they start to get gunshy.
It really is about putting in the time to get to know each other well enough, that this becomes a non-issue.
I go in and pre-tip 50, and have had very few issues. The girls understand right away, I am not a POS.
I also let them know there is more where that came from, if more services are available.
I personally have only had 1 issue in the past 6 mo back as a monger. YMMV, but it works for me.
Go back to the same person you find, works for you and build some kind of relationship or understanding between you.
Google her images. I think you'll find she may be someone else.
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Any intel on her? Her pics work for me. Hate the idea of LE.[/QUOTE]
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Any intel on her? Her pics work for me. Hate the idea of LE.[/QUOTE]Turns out it's a sophisticated scammer. Have to enter your credit card number and pay half to be able to see her. OK not OK. I should've known from the title.
[QUOTE=Squirt1;4227813]Is this an AMP.
Rates and what women you have seen please.
H. E. or just tease?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is an AMP and Anna does a great job on tease and massage no HE normal fees for a massage. English is sometimes hard to understand but an excellent massage.
Hello friends, I work close to both locations and don't really want to waste money or time. Any info on Healing hands or the MP next to Marges donuts. I'm going to try one of them today after work and will be report what I find out. Is one better than the other?
150 for 45 mins plus tip? I texted her and was quoted the same. That converts to $200 an hour! Holy crap! For a massage and he? Even with bbbj that's crazy high.
Glad you enjoyed her but all these girls rates are sky high the past year. 60/ hr plus 40-60 tip for nude he with roaming is all I will ever pay. At 150 plus tip for only 45 mins It better be full service plus msog. Riley is a better option. Or better yet just an escort so I know I get full service. These high rates for massage are insane.
[QUOTE=Edge1201;4225006]I saw her last week & cannot add to the recent reports here. She's very professional and a very good tease. We connected well from the first time I met her. Girl next door chatty & don't get her started about breath mints (we mongers need to be more aware of them). Nice location & she left the blinds up for the voyoeurs in the building next door. She gets off on these fetishes. Rates are published on USA adult etc. But remember to tip a bit more than her $1. 5 rate if you want a bit more VIP attention. Play safe.[/QUOTE]
Many reviews on healing hands. Within this forum, towards the upper right hand side, click on "Search Thread". Enter "Healing Hands" and click search.
[QUOTE=VelvetGoldMine;4229124]Hello friends, I work close to both locations and don't really want to waste money or time. Any info on Healing hands or the MP next to Marges donuts. I'm going to try one of them today after work and will be report what I find out. Is one better than the other?[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the review.
[QUOTE=JMaul;4226851]Saw Chloe in the last few weeks at a private incall. I believe she works at a friends house when she can.
Rate was 100 flat for an "hour. " I found out later that her appts are only 40-45.
The fishnet bra in the link below is what led me to her. She certainly is bigger than her pictures show but I loved her rack.
She is very pleasant and gave an average to above average massage. The ending was above average too. Not the best ever but better than average.
She said once we meet she answers any questions about service but I guess that's only in person because she won't answer anything beyond "I give massages" in conversation through text. I believe rumors are true that she does more the more she sees you so maybe I'll find out some day.
I would repeat if other options were not available and it wasn't at Royal. Never going to that place again.
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=84829&cityid=222[/URL][/QUOTE]
Has anyone seen either of these two.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/autumn-is-truly-here-ready-to/072810373051[/URL]
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blondie-boo-megan/812124237025[/URL]
I like the body on the second one.
[QUOTE=Stonecoldstan;4229392]Has anyone seen either of these two.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/autumn-is-truly-here-ready-to/072810373051[/URL]
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blondie-boo-megan/812124237025[/URL]
I like the body on the second one.[/QUOTE]Autumn is a UTR living in Revanna. She's a small BBW with skills. Bbbjws pops her teeth out on request. Smells and tastes great, msog is available for the 1 hour clients. Reasonable rates. Worth the drive in my opinion. Sweet girl, not on drugs.
You can email her, getting a date will be hard without a password. She will quote rates and menu when you text her the password.
Pics I took on Monday are in Greneral reports, post number 3112.
[QUOTE=Monger01;4229285]150 for 45 mins plus tip? I texted her and was quoted the same. That converts to $200 an hour! Holy crap! For a massage and he? Even with bbbj that's crazy high.
Glad you enjoyed her but all these girls rates are sky high the past year. 60/ hr plus 40-60 tip for nude he with roaming is all I will ever pay. At 150 plus tip for only 45 mins It better be full service plus msog. Riley is a better option. Or better yet just an escort so I know I get full service. These high rates for massage are insane.[/QUOTE]I so agree with the crazy rates, I have spent a lot of cash at MP's. $120 seems to be the lowest I spent for a HE and $160 for fity. I have move up to escorts and get FS for a few more dollars. I purchased a burner for $50 and have only gone to established providers. My first MP experience was in Kzoo many years ago, the HE was an extra $5,.
[QUOTE=JoeHolland;4230205]I so agree with the crazy rates, I have spent a lot of cash at MP's. $120 seems to be the lowest I spent for a HE and $160 for fity. I have move up to escorts and get FS for a few more dollars. I purchased a burner for $50 and have only gone to established providers. My first MP experience was in Kzoo many years ago, the HE was an extra $5,.[/QUOTE]I'm a budget minded monger too.
If you get a massage and don't like the upsell for HJ or BJ, Just call an escort (with a burner phone)
When you call the escort, they're usually in bad hotels.
Tell them you will not go to that hotel but will pick them up for a car date, as long as they provide BBBJws.
The BJ car date rate is 40,(don't pay more), that's a better rate than most HJ at an MP.
It's worked for me many times with providers staying at cheap hotels.
Don't try this on a Friday they'll hang up on you. This usually works on Sunday thru Thursday.
While on the car date make sure you get the most for your money, bring along a song or two from ZZ Top Fandango album. My perfect choice for a BJ song is Blue Jean Blues, nice and slow. Plug it in, hit repeat, tell her to match her stroke to the music. If BJB is too slow for you, there are some other great choices on the album , pick the song with the right rhythm and get the BJ speed you want.
Just trying to help, Happy Hunting
[QUOTE=Monger01;4229285]150 for 45 mins plus tip? I texted her and was quoted the same. That converts to $200 an hour! Holy crap! For a massage and he? Even with bbbj that's crazy high.[/QUOTE]Tipping at massage parlor when presented with market prices for a market service, yeah, you're expected to tip as routine as going to a restaurant. But, especially if a gal's going solo doing massages -- if she's charging 3 x standard market prices for it, you aren't expected to tip. By basic assumption, the tip's already included in that Very High Price, to ensure she gets it.
That said, 3 x the market price, even with tip included, for 45 minutes ($150 instead of $50 + $50 if good), simply is not worth it to one who at least occasionally partakes in massage recreation. It's more than just an extra $10 on top of that good tip, because she's one of the hotter ones, stripped down early, and Fully utilized the time. You're talking 2 x of a Good-Tip. I guess could see that as an Intro price as part of a weeding process, bringing it down to $120 for repeats, fully utilizing the clock where it's more like a standard market HR session in time + giving 2 pops. That's still on the higher-end, and not at all ideal for a guy just looking for a quick pop-and-go, but I could still understand the argument if it was everything shy of a BBBJ that could be had for a lengthy massage Experience + she was great looking and really cool. Basically getting what'd be worth a $60/60 for an HR session with a gal (a great session with a great gal, but still it being an HR session lasting closer to 45 m).
[QUOTE=Charlie441;4230649]Tipping at massage parlor when presented with market prices for a market service, yeah, you're expected to tip as routine as going to a restaurant. But, especially if a gal's going solo doing massages -- if she's charging 3 x standard market prices for it, you aren't expected to tip. By basic assumption, the tip's already included in that Very High Price, to ensure she gets it.
That said, 3 x the market price, even with tip included, for 45 minutes ($150 instead of $50 + $50 if good), simply is not worth it to one who at least occasionally partakes in massage recreation. It's more than just an extra $10 on top of that good tip, because she's one of the hotter ones, stripped down early, and Fully utilized the time. You're talking 2 x of a Good-Tip. I guess could see that as an Intro price as part of a weeding process, bringing it down to $120 for repeats, fully utilizing the clock where it's more like a standard market HR session in time + giving 2 pops. That's still on the higher-end, and not at all ideal for a guy just looking for a quick pop-and-go, but I could still understand the argument if it was everything shy of a BBBJ that could be had for a lengthy massage Experience + she was great looking and really cool. Basically getting what'd be worth a $60/60 for an HR session with a gal (a great session with a great gal, but still it being an HR session lasting closer to 45 m).[/QUOTE]Then don't go.
If you don't go, the market might correct it's self.
I think we're missing the point of the service the hobby MP provides. If they wanted a massage their are plenty of licensed massage girls to do the job for them. If they just need a HJ, they can do it themselves.
I have a friend that spends a lot of money on a MP girl once or twice a month. He does not care how much anyone else is paying, he will pay more for her to make him a priority when he wants to see her. Maybe he gets off on getting this girl to drop everything for him, when he wants to see her (control freak?) We really don't know what goes on in the psyche of every hobbiest or what really goes on in the room for them to be happy paying whatever price.
Speculating how we think it should be (as experienced negotiators and hobbiest) doesn't matter to every monger. We have to do our own math and give up questioning how other mongers do their math because it won't make sense to us.