"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Has anybody renewed membership recently with a pre-paid credit card? I've successfully used the One Vanilla pre-paid (non-reloadable) Visa card many times in the past, but that got rejected this time around. Don't know if it matters, but the One Vanilla card now seems to be replaced by "SecureSpend", although everything else about the card seems the same. The SA payment dialog box comes up with a warning based on the initial few digits that it might not process the charge and that a major credit card should be used instead. I've emailed support, but no response yet. Has anyone had any luck recently with any different pre-paid card options?

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;5805327]Has anybody renewed membership recently with a pre-paid credit card? I've successfully used the One Vanilla pre-paid (non-reloadable) Visa card many times in the past, but that got rejected this time around. Don't know if it matters, but the One Vanilla card now seems to be replaced by "SecureSpend", although everything else about the card seems the same. The SA payment dialog box comes up with a warning based on the initial few digits that it might not process the charge and that a major credit card should be used instead. I've emailed support, but no response yet. Has anyone had any luck recently with any different pre-paid card options?[/QUOTE]It would really be helpful if people would read a page or two back before posting. Where this is completely discussed. I have done it with OneVanilla prepaid debit, non-reloadable. You have to wait overnight after buying it before it will work.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5806036]It would really be helpful if people would read a page or two back before posting. Where this is completely discussed. I have done it with OneVanilla prepaid debit, non-reloadable. You have to wait overnight after buying it before it will work.[/QUOTE]Or you could just read the original post as written. I used a non-reloadable Visa prepaid debit card ("SecureSpend", which has replaced "OneVanilla", but otherwise appears to be the same card type). I waited overnight before using. Still rejected. At any rate, the helpful support desk has provided me with a workaround. If anyone needs that, feel free to PM me (but only after you've read through several pages back, of course).

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;5806300]Or you could just read the original post as written. I used a non-reloadable Visa prepaid debit card ("SecureSpend", which has replaced "OneVanilla", but otherwise appears to be the same card type). I waited overnight before using. Still rejected. At any rate, the helpful support desk has provided me with a workaround. If anyone needs that, feel free to PM me (but only after you've read through several pages back, of course).[/QUOTE]Well done.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb0a2201-2c2e-494d-9f15-30d566956f71[/URL]

Anyone have chance to meet this gal?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb0a2201-2c2e-494d-9f15-30d566956f71[/URL]

Anyone sampled this hottie?

[QUOTE=Ronson1;5811276][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb0a2201-2c2e-494d-9f15-30d566956f71[/URL]

Anyone have chance to meet this gal?[/QUOTE]The GPS is strong in this one.

Anyone sampled this beauty Richmond VA.

I had an interesting interaction w / a girl regarding my pictures. As I have a SO, my pictures are of someone who looks like me and are cropped to prevent the full face from being seen. This both makes it seem like they are really me, and also arms me against complaints that I used someone else's pictures. They were things I found on the web, though. I M&G a girl, she was pretty positive about dating me, and she confides in me that she had google reverse image searched my photos. She identified the guy who it was really, and said she even found a video of him speaking, so once we had had a phone conversation, she knew that the photos weren't of me.

Having photos that aren't of you is a violation on seeking, and could get me banned if she reported me. Also, she had demonstrated that she had the inclination and skill to track down information about me if she wanted. I was also just lukewarm about her attractiveness. So, shortly after the M&G, I blocked her profile on seeking and her phone # on Google voice. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5816172]I had an interesting interaction w / a girl regarding my pictures. As I have a SO, my pictures are of someone who looks like me and are cropped to prevent the full face from being seen. This both makes it seem like they are really me, and also arms me against complaints that I used someone else's pictures. They were things I found on the web, though. I M&G a girl, she was pretty positive about dating me, and she confides in me that she had google reverse image searched my photos. She identified the guy who it was really, and said she even found a video of him speaking, so once we had had a phone conversation, she knew that the photos weren't of me.

Having photos that aren't of you is a violation on seeking, and could get me banned if she reported me. Also, she had demonstrated that she had the inclination and skill to track down information about me if she wanted. I was also just lukewarm about her attractiveness. So, shortly after the M&G, I blocked her profile on seeking and her phone # on Google voice. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.[/QUOTE]Do even with the face somewhat hidden she identified the guy in picture? Dude she is a looking for easy prey. Now not sure when you say face was cropped but google image without complete face is nearly impossible right? Hopefully shd don't come looking for you because that shit is some deep dive crazy. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5816306]Do even with the face somewhat hidden she identified the guy in picture? Dude she is a looking for easy prey. Now not sure when you say face was cropped but google image without complete face is nearly impossible right? Hopefully shd don't come looking for you because that shit is some deep dive crazy. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Well, my opsec is good, I don't think she has an easy way to identify me IRL. And our interactions were very pleasant, like I said, she was interested in dating me. I was just concerned that she could do more digging into who I am if we were seeing each other regularly, and that would not be a good thing.

I have no idea about the powers of google reverse image search, but from what she said, she was able to figure out the pictures weren't of me. I guess I could test it out, but really, what difference does it make. Mostly, girls won't go to this trouble. The risk is getting my profile banned on seeking. This happened with one of my backup profiles a while ago, and the only way to resurrect it is to send seeking a selfie of you holding your drivers license. Yeah, right, like that's going to happen.

Surprisingly little action with Spring Break in the air.

Love her look -- assuming her face is symmetrical, but can't get anywhere with her [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fa2c5f2-5dff-4ad0-8475-5851d3526c0d[/URL].

Recent additions to gallery are great, but also very uncommunicative - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/852f06f7-2392-455a-a20e-21cc17684807[/URL].

Real, fun, great bod. Ask was a bit much for me -- [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e32174cd-615c-41f0-a7c6-68f6f79dd1d5[/URL].

She's been around, but not in a long while. Tends to look a little different in every pic, but sh'es real. DTF, no GPS, good fun. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f7b0fa9-cb01-4f50-9222-0e09e96a42b5[/URL].

No car, looking for virtual. Pretty annoying / demanding trying to sell content - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13432fd1-1eb7-4c61-a28d-8130f2188592[/URL].

Another low on comms but very appealing [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fde3480-e363-4c69-8449-ee691dfa3377[/URL].

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5816469]Well, my opsec is good, I don't think she has an easy way to identify me IRL. And our interactions were very pleasant, like I said, she was interested in dating me. I was just concerned that she could do more digging into who I am if we were seeing each other regularly, and that would not be a good thing.

I have no idea about the powers of google reverse image search, but from what she said, she was able to figure out the pictures weren't of me. I guess I could test it out, but really, what difference does it make. Mostly, girls won't go to this trouble. The risk is getting my profile banned on seeking. This happened with one of my backup profiles a while ago, and the only way to resurrect it is to send seeking a selfie of you holding your drivers license. Yeah, right, like that's going to happen.[/QUOTE]One other thing about the situation. If she ever came after me, I have her full name and could likely mess her up. I have a screenshot of her profile from SA as well. This is how I got her name. I did something everyone says never to do. Give a girl $ before the meet. I spoke w / her by phone and did extensive texting, though, and I know a lot of her life story (and it seems real). I didn't think she would ghost on me for that small a $, she was hoping for more. Anyway, we had a meet planned and she could not get there because no gas. I offered to send $20 by PayPal, and she eventually agreed to that.

I have a PayPal account from a number of years ago. IDK if you can still get what I have. It is under my sugar identity, and it does not involve my SSN. I can take a OneVanilla prepaid debit card, add it to the account, and then use that to send $ to girls. To receive the $, they provide their PayPal username. However, what I get is that "x $ was transferred to <girl's real name." To 'verify' a card in this account, PayPal charges $1. 95 to it and gives you a code on the OneVanilla charge list that you then have to enter into their website. Lots of nickel and diming to stay under the radar in the sugar world.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5817531]I have a PayPal account from a number of years ago. IDK if you can still get what I have. It is under my sugar identity, and it does not involve my SSN. I can take a OneVanilla prepaid debit card, add it to the account, and then use that to send $ to girls. To receive the $, they provide their PayPal username. However, what I get is that "x $ was transferred to <girl's real name." To 'verify' a card in this account, PayPal charges $1. 95 to it and gives you a code on the OneVanilla charge list that you then have to enter into their website. Lots of nickel and diming to stay under the radar in the sugar world.[/QUOTE]This is one of the best ways. Its been a couple of years, but Paypal now requires you to verify your identity. For those of us with old accounts with our sugar names, they just don't let you keep money in the PayPal system if you aren't verified and use an alias. You have to move the money to a bank account.

I'd rather spend $20 up front to be able to verify a serious contender than risk meeting a whack job.

Another good way is to get them on snap chat. They often don't creat a sugar snapchat account or they might use their real cell # for texting, but it is tied to their real snap account. If you allow Snapchat to access your contacts, it not only scans your iPhone address book -- Those say FOUND IN CONTACTS -- but it also searches your Google Voice address book and those carry no comment. So I never add anyone from my Contacts, but add everyone that comes up as added without comment. So even if I haven't texted them in months or they are off SA, I can connect / reconnect with them and sometimes get their IRL name. Usually the screen name is a fake, but the username is some variation of their real name.

Has anyone had the pleasure of meeting her? She's been around a while and seems legit, but can't find anything whatsoever about her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d23015ae-7979-4279-bd94-9ff766977404[/URL]

[QUOTE=AsssManKramer;5819139]Has anyone had the pleasure of meeting her? She's been around a while and seems legit, but can't find anything whatsoever about her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d23015ae-7979-4279-bd94-9ff766977404[/URL][/QUOTE]Talks a good game, but now of at least 2 others that she ghosted day of meeting.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5817163]Surprisingly little action with Spring Break in the air.

Love her look -- assuming her face is symmetrical, but can't get anywhere with her [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fa2c5f2-5dff-4ad0-8475-5851d3526c0d[/URL].

Recent additions to gallery are great, but also very uncommunicative - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/852f06f7-2392-455a-a20e-21cc17684807[/URL].

Real, fun, great bod. Ask was a bit much for me -- [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e32174cd-615c-41f0-a7c6-68f6f79dd1d5[/URL].

She's been around, but not in a long while. Tends to look a little different in every pic, but sh'es real. DTF, no GPS, good fun. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f7b0fa9-cb01-4f50-9222-0e09e96a42b5[/URL].

No car, looking for virtual. Pretty annoying / demanding trying to sell content - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13432fd1-1eb7-4c61-a28d-8130f2188592[/URL].

Another low on comms but very appealing [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fde3480-e363-4c69-8449-ee691dfa3377[/URL].[/QUOTE]The "no car" virtual girl is playing you. She hosts in the Fan and can be nailed for $100 per meeting. She keeps trying to level up but she needs cash so hang tough. The pics are accurate: flat ass but otherwise great spinner body. She can be really annoying but otherwise good lay.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5789933]Looks TGTBT. Doesn't reply [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/209c39b2-f4c5-4cd3-af55-2dbb4d9c2125[/URL].[/QUOTE]She's using Instagram pics form a Texas A&M student that's from Dallas (reverse imaged the blue bikini pic on Yandex).

[QUOTE=AsssManKramer;5819139]Has anyone had the pleasure of meeting her? She's been around a while and seems legit, but can't find anything whatsoever about her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d23015ae-7979-4279-bd94-9ff766977404[/URL][/QUOTE]Talked to her quite a bit last fall. Decided on the details and she ended up ghosting me. Gave me some excuse about not having a ride. I offered to pick her up since her place was supposedly down the street from the FC; but she declined. Oh well.

Anyone have any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a8088b91-f927-43e7-aae0-2272b33572f3[/URL]

Thanks,

Bobby.

[QUOTE=Tidad;5819702]The "no car" virtual girl is playing you. She hosts in the Fan and can be nailed for $100 per meeting. She keeps trying to level up but she needs cash so hang tough. The pics are accurate: flat ass but otherwise great spinner body. She can be really annoying but otherwise good lay.[/QUOTE]I paid to much last week 150 got bb no CIP but swallowed to completion no a quitter.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3eddde8a-caa6-49a1-88e2-06582485b888[/URL] anyone seen this one. Found her by accident on FB she is real wondering if anyone has sampled.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5817163]Surprisingly little action with Spring Break in the air.

Love her look -- assuming her face is symmetrical, but can't get anywhere with her [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fa2c5f2-5dff-4ad0-8475-5851d3526c0d[/URL].

Recent additions to gallery are great, but also very uncommunicative - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/852f06f7-2392-455a-a20e-21cc17684807[/URL].

Real, fun, great bod. Ask was a bit much for me -- [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e32174cd-615c-41f0-a7c6-68f6f79dd1d5[/URL].

She's been around, but not in a long while. Tends to look a little different in every pic, but sh'es real. DTF, no GPS, good fun. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f7b0fa9-cb01-4f50-9222-0e09e96a42b5[/URL].

No car, looking for virtual. Pretty annoying / demanding trying to sell content - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13432fd1-1eb7-4c61-a28d-8130f2188592[/URL].

Another low on comms but very appealing [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fde3480-e363-4c69-8449-ee691dfa3377[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure I've seen #3 through [URL]SirensVA.com[/URL] A lot of the RVA girls on SA also work through them. They won't always be honest about it though.

[QUOTE=TheArcher;5826283]I'm pretty sure I've seen #3 through [URL]SirensVA.com[/URL] A lot of the RVA girls on SA also work through them. They won't always be honest about it though.[/QUOTE]She's been around a while and changes profiles constantly. I actually saw her a few times last Summer. Not sure what happened but she ended up blocking me after lunch date. She is currently running two profiles, one here and another one in Norfolk for some reason [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6efa9691-ee0f-4904-bbef-8942751aa0b3[/URL].

I am trying to decide whether my regular cell phone should be on or off when I am seeing a SB. I guess I am sensitized by watching too many FBI TV shows, where they can locate any cell phone anywhere. I definitely don't want my SO to have any reason to think I am exactly where I am expect to be. I can avoid that by turning off the phone before I go off my beaten track to see the SB. However, if there were a reason she really did need to contact me while I was out of pocket, perhaps I should have the phone on. I was meeting a POT once, we were chatting in my car, and a call same in from the warden. I didn't answer of course, just excused myself from the POT and went to where I was supposed to be before replying.

I have an Android phone that does not have location services enabled. If you were unlucky enough to have an iPhone with the tracking feature, I think your career in the bowl would be done for.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5827091]I am trying to decide whether my regular cell phone should be on or off when I am seeing a SB. I guess I am sensitized by watching too many FBI TV shows, where they can locate any cell phone anywhere. I definitely don't want my SO to have any reason to think I am exactly where I am expect to be. I can avoid that by turning off the phone before I go off my beaten track to see the SB. However, if there were a reason she really did need to contact me while I was out of pocket, perhaps I should have the phone on. I was meeting a POT once, we were chatting in my car, and a call same in from the warden. I didn't answer of course, just excused myself from the POT and went to where I was supposed to be before replying.

I have an Android phone that does not have location services enabled. If you were unlucky enough to have an iPhone with the tracking feature, I think your career in the bowl would be done for.[/QUOTE]If my read of the NCIS shows is correct merely turning off your phone will not stop it from transmitting to the mother-ship and the ability to "ping" it and locate it. The only way to accomplish that is to pull the battery. Then the phone is a brick.

IF you keep your phone on, but silent or in airplane mode while it is at your primary residence, the location info might be used to I'd the real owner. Had to dump a prior phone because I "googled" the number using Mr. Number and found IRL info. So just saying.

Then again I could be wrong and hopefully those with more tech know how will correct me?

Can the typical SO do this deeper level of "tracking?" Maybe. Could she hire someone that could?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5827652]If my read of the NCIS shows is correct merely turning off your phone will not stop it from transmitting to the mother-ship and the ability to "ping" it and locate it. The only way to accomplish that is to pull the battery. Then the phone is a brick.

IF you keep your phone on, but silent or in airplane mode while it is at your primary residence, the location info might be used to I'd the real owner. Had to dump a prior phone because I "googled" the number using Mr. Number and found IRL info. So just saying.

Then again I could be wrong and hopefully those with more tech know how will correct me?

Can the typical SO do this deeper level of "tracking?" Maybe. Could she hire someone that could?[/QUOTE]Several tracks of confusion are at work. I was inquiring about my *regular* phone. It does not make sense to me that if it is really off, it can still be pinged. I have never heard of this, IRL or on TV. Someone should clarify that though.

You other comment is concerning my burner and how I handle it. I never have it on at my home. Period. That wasn't my question.

Some people evidently use texting apps on their IRL phones. This seems hazardous in any case, regarding at SB finding your IRL identity, and if you have a SO, her discovering your hijinks.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5826424]She's been around a while and changes profiles constantly. I actually saw her a few times last Summer. Not sure what happened but she ended up blocking me after lunch date. She is currently running two profiles, one here and another one in Norfolk for some reason [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6efa9691-ee0f-4904-bbef-8942751aa0b3[/URL].[/QUOTE]She was running that profile in DC recently too.

Someone I know offered her 3, she said 4 and when asked to split the difference blocked him!

This one says she just moved to Richmond but has not changed her location. Seems too interested in me as she didn't need money. I am the loser guy behind the wall on the old Dating Game Show. Skinny country redneck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2141163-3754-4941-ad62-3599dd85c57a[/URL]

Married guys. Do you use your real pictures on SA? I have been on before and used real pictures but always so worried someone I know would be on there and see me. Or that someone would screenshot my account and use it as leverage if they wanted to blackmail me. It seems so risky. Is there a place where I can find similar pictures of myself? Or where I can alter my pictures?

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;5829343]Married guys. Do you use your real pictures on SA? I have been on before and used real pictures but always so worried someone I know would be on there and see me. Or that someone would screenshot my account and use it as leverage if they wanted to blackmail me. It seems so risky. Is there a place where I can find similar pictures of myself? Or where I can alter my pictures?[/QUOTE]I don't have [U]any[/U] face pics on my SA profile at all. Maybe that's not allowed with a new account these days? So a key is can you sell yourself visually without a snap of your mug?

In the past I found some online picture of a similar looking dude and used that other places. But IF I can find it online so can the SA BOTS and that will / could get you booted or lead to a request from SA to send a pic of you holding up your D / L. In the past I found some free software online that does a melt from one picture to another and used that. Not sure where I ended up, 50-50 or 60-40 but have used that blended pic when dating on other sites. Problems is that the pic result was kinda fuzzy around the edges so if you looked close you got a feeling it was kinda off. Girls like clear pics.

Now when challenged for a picture, I only send one through the SA messaging system. That way one can delete the picture a few days later or after things start to get screwy. In fact, the pic I use IS a bit blurry because I took it with the crappy camera on my burner. Admitting to a crappy camera or lack of tech skills in uploading stuff works with the younger crowd.

There is a dude (farfaraway) here, that uses a cropped face pic of some sort, lower half of a doppleganger. Searching back through the thread here could provide some additional insight as I believe this gets discussed periodically.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;5829343]Married guys. Do you use your real pictures on SA? I have been on before and used real pictures but always so worried someone I know would be on there and see me. Or that someone would screenshot my account and use it as leverage if they wanted to blackmail me. It seems so risky. Is there a place where I can find similar pictures of myself? Or where I can alter my pictures?[/QUOTE]Unless someone tells you that you resemble someone, its hard. More than a few people told me I look like a certain Nascar driver, but every time I tried using one of his photos, flopped / tilted and altered within my photoshop skills, SA denied it.

I used a fake photo for a good while, but when I shared a real photo, I got reported and SA banned me unless I produced a govt photo I'd that resembled my profile pic with the fake image.

Your best bet is to use a real, hidden photo that shows enough of you to give a sense of who you are, but enough deniability if it ever goes public. Also, screen POTs closely, especially if you live in a small town like I do. What industry to they work in, where do they like to hang, make sure there isn't any overlap before sharing pics.

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;5806300]Or you could just read the original post as written. I used a non-reloadable Visa prepaid debit card ("SecureSpend", which has replaced "OneVanilla", but otherwise appears to be the same card type). I waited overnight before using. Still rejected. At any rate, the helpful support desk has provided me with a workaround. If anyone needs that, feel free to PM me (but only after you've read through several pages back, of course).[/QUOTE]I just renewed using SecureSpend, yes a banner appears that approval rates for pre-paid cards is low. But mine went through fine, No issues.

Don't know if non approval is for recent / new members.

[QUOTE=TheArcher;5826283]I'm pretty sure I've seen #3 through [URL]SirensVA.com[/URL] A lot of the RVA girls on SA also work through them. They won't always be honest about it though.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about Katie from [URL]Sirensva.com[/URL]? I don't think that's her. They look alike though.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2d1368ba-e82c-4c07-b5ae-b237f36d74e3[/URL]

Just curious if anyone here in the 804 has had an opportunity to chat and / or see this one. I'm supposed to see this week but conversation is spotty. I appreciate any info available.

BG.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6eba56ed-f509-41bc-81da-3d5e98671eff[/URL]

https://members.seeking.com/member/80b12e13-116c-490f-9bbe-7a8793f78750

Had an opportunity to have a sugar date with both Sweetness and Classy recently. Really great time with both easy set up. If anyone needs details of the dates PM me.

BG.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/feb5491a-35a9-4427-aa81-3e6e021f8861[/URL]

I forgot to mention this one Deja. Had a couple of dates with her she's real deal! Posts between Richmond and DC area occasionally but lives in Richmond.

BG.

[QUOTE=Tidad;5819702]The "no car" virtual girl is playing you. She hosts in the Fan and can be nailed for $100 per meeting. She keeps trying to level up but she needs cash so hang tough. The pics are accurate: flat ass but otherwise great spinner body. She can be really annoying but otherwise good lay.[/QUOTE]Sampled YummiBaby123 today. I assume the annoying part is about how she talks your ear off. She insisted on any FS would need to be covered and I didn't bring one. Opted for DATY and BBBJCIF. Pics are doctored a bit, didn't find her to be as cute in person as expected. But will repeat in a pinch, price is right and she hosts which is a bonus. $.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5832906]Sampled YummiBaby123 today. I assume the annoying part is about how she talks your ear off. She insisted on any FS would need to be covered and I didn't bring one. Opted for DATY and BBBJCIF. Pics are doctored a bit, didn't find her to be as cute in person as expected. But will repeat in a pinch, price is right and she hosts which is a bonus. $.[/QUOTE]I hopes she looks better than her main pic. Her mouth looks too small for her face.

She had sent me some pics of that pussy, I have to say that was one pretty pussy, hope you enjoyed it.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5832906]Sampled YummiBaby123 today. I assume the annoying part is about how she talks your ear off. She insisted on any FS would need to be covered and I didn't bring one. Opted for DATY and BBBJCIF. Pics are doctored a bit, didn't find her to be as cute in person as expected. But will repeat in a pinch, price is right and she hosts which is a bonus. $.[/QUOTE].