Massage Parlor Reports

Dear God, let it be Lucy or Kitty but not Judy. That is all.

[QUOTE=SandersNut;5314235]I'll start this by saying that I'd never go raw with a provider. Til a recent dream.

I like variety. So I rotate AMP's looking for the unicorn we're all in search of. Last Monday I dropped into an oakland county AMP and was greeted by an attractive spinner mid to late 30's about 5'5" maybe 125 lbs (that's my sweet spot, Just my type). She put on her mask as she approached me and asked if I had an appointment to which I responded no and she led me to a room and closed the door. . 7 for 1 hour and. 5 for 30 min I opted for the hour. I paid, she left, I stripped and assumed the position. She returned and began the massage with heavy pressure and a nice technique. Not much teasing to speak of so I began the leg rubbing and roaming with no resistence. On the flip I roamed OTC and no resistence which led to fiv (wow) still no resistence. She nestled beside my ear and whispered "yu so sexy" while rubbing my junk and I said "I want to fuk you". She smiled, said nothing and continued to let me explore fiv. I took my wet finger and sniffed to see what I was working with and a beautiful fragrant whiff of nothingness. I am now losing my mind with excitement and surprise. I whispered, I want to taste you and she crawled onto my chest (I can't beleive this is happening) and she pulls her tights down and her g-string and planted just above my nose. There is no way I would ever partake in my right mind. But I did. Bliss for 5 minutes till she made me blow w / HJ. Cleaned me up w / hot towels. I tipped. 5 and told her I'd be back in a week.

I returned this Monday (in my dream) She was happy to see me and took me back to the room, I paid for 1 hr. Got a great massage for 30 minutes but the outcome this time was raw FS with civ (I would never do that), she mounted cg and I blew within 5 minutes but she kept riding for another 8-10 minutes. She said that I am not to see any of the other girls there. She also said after that if I told any of the other girls there or anyone else she would not see me again. Thats why in this dream I don't mention location or name. We never discussed tip, I tipped. 8 and expect to see this diamond regularly. I'm very uncomfortable whith the raw and the daty. But she is a very sexy MILF. I just hope that I don't develop any symptoms. I know this sux because I can't name the place but you should know there are unicorns among us.

Good luck and regarding going raw. Do as I say not as I do.

Stay safe.

SN.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SandersNut;5314235]I'll start this by saying that I'd never go raw with a provider. Til a recent dream.

I like variety. So I rotate AMP's looking for the unicorn we're all in search of. Last Monday I dropped into an oakland county AMP and was greeted by an attractive spinner mid to late 30's about 5'5" maybe 125 lbs (that's my sweet spot, Just my type). She put on her mask as she approached me and asked if I had an appointment to which I responded no and she led me to a room and closed the door. . 7 for 1 hour and. 5 for 30 min I opted for the hour.[/QUOTE]Your inbox is full. LOL.

Hey, your inbox is full. I'm willing to trade one or two UTR girls I know. Clear your inbox and send me a PM, trust me you would want to know what I have to share. Rest of you if you DM me based on this post, trade for a trade only.

After following your clues I have been to Spring Massage but there was a sign on the door "Closed for health", then went to Asian Health Spa, drew Nicole. Very hot girl in her 30-40's, huge jugs and back side. Massage was very solid but no HE, didn't even allow me to touch her. Didn't get the vibe more can be available. Cost was 80 for hour tipped 20. At the front desk saw another MILF looking girl who also looked good, she was skinnier and maybe a bit older. Will probably go back and try her next. I wasn't done, so went to sub next for a 30 min massage, drew Hanna. You guys know the rest.

[QUOTE=SandersNut;5314235]I'll start this by saying that I'd never go raw with a provider. Til a recent dream.

I like variety. So I rotate AMP's looking for the unicorn we're all in search of. Last Monday I dropped into an oakland county AMP and was greeted by an attractive spinner mid to late 30's about 5'5" maybe 125 lbs (that's my sweet spot, Just my type). She put on her mask as she approached me and asked if I had an appointment to which I responded no and she led me to a room and closed the door. . 7 for 1 hour and. 5 for 30 min I opted for the hour. I paid, she left, I stripped and assumed the position. She returned and began the massage with heavy pressure and a nice technique. Not much teasing to speak of so I began the leg rubbing and roaming with no resistence. On the flip I roamed OTC and no resistence which led to fiv (wow) still no resistence. She nestled beside my ear and whispered "yu so sexy" while rubbing my junk and I said "I want to fuk you". She smiled, said nothing and continued to let me explore fiv. I took my wet finger and sniffed to see what I was working with and a beautiful fragrant whiff of nothingness. I am now losing my mind with excitement and surprise. I whispered, I want to taste you and she crawled onto my chest (I can't beleive this is happening) and she pulls her tights down and her g-string and planted just above my nose. There is no way I would ever partake in my right mind. But I did. Bliss for 5 minutes till she made me blow w / HJ. Cleaned me up w / hot towels. I tipped. 5 and told her I'd be back in a week.

I returned this Monday (in my dream) She was happy to see me and took me back to the room, I paid for 1 hr. Got a great massage for 30 minutes but the outcome this time was raw FS with civ (I would never do that), she mounted cg and I blew within 5 minutes but she kept riding for another 8-10 minutes. She said that I am not to see any of the other girls there. She also said after that if I told any of the other girls there or anyone else she would not see me again. Thats why in this dream I don't mention location or name. We never discussed tip, I tipped. 8 and expect to see this diamond regularly. I'm very uncomfortable whith the raw and the daty. But she is a very sexy MILF. I just hope that I don't develop any symptoms. I know this sux because I can't name the place but you should know there are unicorns among us.

Good luck and regarding going raw. Do as I say not as I do.

Stay safe.

SN.[/QUOTE]

I believe those who posted about unicorns just wanted to have some fun with the readers of this forum and described an experience sure to get people worked up. I think it's working. A hot, decent looking, non ancient provider willing to do all that? If we're in LA, I don't doubt it. Around here? Can't help but wonder.

I used to visit pre COVID, but haven't been there in a while. Recommend?.

Hi All. I am from Washington State and in town to care for an elderly parent. I arrived Friday night, leaving Sunday, and determined I need a massage+ before my flight home.

I am looking over the threads in the spare time I have but wondering if there are suggestions for the following:

- Good to great massage.

- Younger (35 or below).

- Great body. I am an ass guy.

- Open for duo session.

This could be an AMP or an independent provider anywhere within an 90 min drive north of the airport Extra requested are really open menu.

I am happy to share info from Seattle, and appreciate any data you are willing to share. I will continue to read threads but it is so hard to find the best suggestions.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=SandersNut;5314235]I'll start this by saying that I'd never go raw with a provider. Til a recent dream.

I like variety. So I rotate AMP's looking for the unicorn we're all in search of. Last Monday I dropped into an oakland county AMP and was greeted by an attractive spinner mid to late 30's about 5'5" maybe 125 lbs (that's my sweet spot, Just my type). She put on her mask as she approached me and asked if I had an appointment to which I responded no and she led me to a room and closed the door. . 7 for 1 hour and. 5 for 30 min I opted for the hour. I paid, she left, I stripped and assumed the position. She returned and began the massage with heavy pressure and a nice technique. Not much teasing to speak of so I began the leg rubbing and roaming with no resistence. On the flip I roamed OTC and no resistence which led to fiv (wow) still no resistence. She nestled beside my ear and whispered "yu so sexy" while rubbing my junk and I said "I want to fuk you". She smiled, said nothing and continued to let me explore fiv. I took my wet finger and sniffed to see what I was working with and a beautiful fragrant whiff of nothingness. I am now losing my mind with excitement and surprise. I whispered, I want to taste you and she crawled onto my chest (I can't beleive this is happening) and she pulls her tights down and her g-string and planted just above my nose. There is no way I would ever partake in my right mind. But I did. Bliss for 5 minutes till she made me blow w / HJ. Cleaned me up w / hot towels. I tipped. 5 and told her I'd be back in a week.

I returned this Monday (in my dream) She was happy to see me and took me back to the room, I paid for 1 hr. Got a great massage for 30 minutes but the outcome this time was raw FS with civ (I would never do that), she mounted cg and I blew within 5 minutes but she kept riding for another 8-10 minutes. She said that I am not to see any of the other girls there. She also said after that if I told any of the other girls there or anyone else she would not see me again. Thats why in this dream I don't mention location or name. We never discussed tip, I tipped. 8 and expect to see this diamond regularly. I'm very uncomfortable whith the raw and the daty. But she is a very sexy MILF. I just hope that I don't develop any symptoms. I know this sux because I can't name the place but you should know there are unicorns among us.

Good luck and regarding going raw. Do as I say not as I do.

Stay safe.

SN.[/QUOTE]Any chance to get a location? Thank.

Totally off topic for the newly formed "Unicorn" thread, but here is an actual massage review nonetheless.

ScheduleD a 30 min nuru with Craigslist Lola in Pontiac. Directed me to her townhouse (likely a section 8 housing complex) so that was a little sketchy. But you are able to park out front and walk right up to her place. Pretty clean, has massage table in bedroom. She is naked in a robe. She is attractive. Thick curvy figure, pretty face. Massage was brief and above average. Is NOT a nuru massage, simply a naked body rub. She allows touching and gives a decent but not very enthusiastic hand finish. Her rate was 120 for 30 minutes (which she timed). I was able to finish but did not tip any additional (and she did not ask or seem to expect). Seemed to indicate that more service may be available in future but given that her "nuru" description is quite misleading I think it was only talk to get me to come back.

Was not horrible but not worth repeating when I can make the same drive for Jenny at PT nails for far better service.

[QUOTE=Jp1225;5318975]Totally off topic for the newly formed "Unicorn" thread, but here is an actual massage review nonetheless.

ScheduleD a 30 min nuru with Craigslist Lola in Pontiac. Directed me to her townhouse (likely a section 8 housing complex) so that was a little sketchy. But you are able to park out front and walk right up to her place. Pretty clean, has massage table in bedroom. She is naked in a robe. She is attractive. Thick curvy figure, pretty face. Massage was brief and above average. Is NOT a nuru massage, simply a naked body rub. She allows touching and gives a decent but not very enthusiastic hand finish. Her rate was 120 for 30 minutes (which she timed). I was able to finish but did not tip any additional (and she did not ask or seem to expect). Seemed to indicate that more service may be available in future but given that her "nuru" description is quite misleading I think it was only talk to get me to come back.

Was not horrible but not worth repeating when I can make the same drive for Jenny at PT nails for far better service.[/QUOTE]Saw her ad yesterday. Thinking about try her out. Thank for your review. Save me some cash.

[QUOTE=SandersNut;5314235]I'll start this by saying that I'd never go raw with a provider. Til a recent dream.

I like variety. So I rotate AMP's looking for the unicorn we're all in search of. Last Monday I dropped into an oakland county AMP and was greeted by an attractive spinner mid to late 30's about 5'5" maybe 125 lbs (that's my sweet spot, Just my type). She put on her mask as she approached me and asked if I had an appointment to which I responded no and she led me to a room and closed the door. . 7 for 1 hour and. 5 for 30 min I opted for the hour. I paid, she left, I stripped and assumed the position. She returned and began the massage with heavy pressure and a nice technique. Not much teasing to speak of so I began the leg rubbing and roaming with no resistence. On the flip I roamed OTC and no resistence which led to fiv (wow) still no resistence. She nestled beside my ear and whispered "yu so sexy" while rubbing my junk and I said "I want to fuk you". She smiled, said nothing and continued to let me explore fiv. I took my wet finger and sniffed to see what I was working with and a beautiful fragrant whiff of nothingness. I am now losing my mind with excitement and surprise. I whispered, I want to taste you and she crawled onto my chest (I can't beleive this is happening) and she pulls her tights down and her g-string and planted just above my nose. There is no way I would ever partake in my right mind. But I did. Bliss for 5 minutes till she made me blow w / HJ. Cleaned me up w / hot towels. I tipped. 5 and told her I'd be back in a week.

I returned this Monday (in my dream) She was happy to see me and took me back to the room, I paid for 1 hr. Got a great massage for 30 minutes but the outcome this time was raw FS with civ (I would never do that), she mounted cg and I blew within 5 minutes but she kept riding for another 8-10 minutes. She said that I am not to see any of the other girls there. She also said after that if I told any of the other girls there or anyone else she would not see me again. Thats why in this dream I don't mention location or name. We never discussed tip, I tipped. 8 and expect to see this diamond regularly. I'm very uncomfortable whith the raw and the daty. But she is a very sexy MILF. I just hope that I don't develop any symptoms. I know this sux because I can't name the place but you should know there are unicorns among us.

Good luck and regarding going raw. Do as I say not as I do.

Stay safe.

SN.[/QUOTE]Your mailbox is full.

Really guys. How much bandwidth are we going to waste quoting and reposting this unicorn discussion? And if another monger reports that SNs mailbox is full? Come on guys. Let's restore this thread to what's it's supposed to be about. Give reports on YOUR massage experiences.

If SN wanted to share in the thread he would have done do. If he wanted to share with senior members via PM he would have welcomed that. Let's move on shall we.

Good evening all. I recently started working the the Rochester Hills area and I am looking for my first massage experience in the area. If anyone has any recommendations that they are willing to share that would be great. Thanks and stay safe.

[QUOTE=HouseOfCards;5314951]

[QUOTE=Jp1225;5313745]Thanks for the info HOC. Wendy had me go see Amy at Vital a couple weeks ago, this is what I can report.

Amy is fit / attractive. Was pleasant and gave a good massage (maybe 6-7/10). A little teasing before flip and a little teasing after but no HE. Not sure if she wasn't comfortable with me (although I came as referral from Wendy who has seen me 3 times and a handy was had each time). So ladies do open up more on future visits but I've found more often than not the ones who are willing to offer endings do so on the first visit. I've actually found in many cases that subsequent visits are sometimes not as good as they were over performing on the first visit to get you to come back.

So I would say Amy is more legit than not and her massage was not all that great. I won't repeat.[/QUOTE]

Okay, so the looks line up with what the woman I know as Lucy described, which I would expect. Lucy texted me today to let me know that Amy was working at Commerce today to see if I'd like to check her out, but I told her (truthfully) that I work until late and didn't have the free time. Given the conflict between the woman I know as Jenny and Lily, the owner of Vital, it's unlikely that Jenny would refer anyone there. So, the woman you know as Wendy might actually be the woman I know as Lucy. I can text her tomorrow and find out for sure.

On a side note, Lily told me last summer that she's trying to take Vital, Traditional & Terra in a more legit direction, because the various busts in the area have made her nervous and she doesn't want trouble. Amy might just be following orders and you might have a more happy experience with her at Commerce. *shrug* Either way, I'm very happy with the service I get from Jenny and Lucy, so if Amy's massage skills are just average, then I'm not going to go out of my way to see her.[/QUOTE]

Jp1225, I stopped by Commerce Massage today just as Amy was dropping off some food for Wendy / Lucy / Lisa, so I was able to finally meet her. It was Amy's day off, but she came in to tease me a bit before taking off. (She probably would have stayed for a 4 hands, but she had just gotten a covid vaccine shot and was feeling a bit rough.) In any event, I think your experience with her at Vital may have more to do with Lily's directions than anything. Amy works at Commerce Massage on Wednesdays, so you can take that into consideration when scheduling there.

So, I obviously buried the lede there a bit. I was able to confirm that the woman you know as Wendy is the same woman I know as Lucy and the same woman that Firemanoh knows as Lisa. Apparently, she went by Wendy at Novi Massage, Lucy at Traditional, and is now introducing herself as Lisa at Commerce. She seemed surprised that there's a message board for customers and I told her that I know for a fact that they all network, too. She laughed a bit and then shared a few amusing tales, most of which reminded me of the same cattiness of the strippers when I used to work as a DJ back in the day. Anyway, she works every day at Commerce, unless she really needs the day off. She's getting her first covid shot in the next day or two, so she might be taking a day off if she has a rough go of it.

For those that know Jenny (not the Jenny from PT Nails; the Jenny from Traditional and now the owner of Commerce Massage), she texted me today that she's getting me back from out of town on Monday. She'll probably be back in the shop after that, especially if Wendy / Lucy / Lisa is needing the day off after getting her first vaccination.

Also, they got the store sign up on the brick overhang just yesterday, so it'll be a bit easier to find now. (Lucy said that someone couldn't find the place before, even though she gave them the address. Personally, I don't know how they missed it; the window signage isn't subtle.)

[QUOTE=HouseOfCards;5319578]Jp1225, I stopped by Commerce Massage today just as Amy was dropping off some food for Wendy / Lucy / Lisa, so I was able to finally meet her. It was Amy's day off, but she came in to tease me a bit before taking off. (She probably would have stayed for a 4 hands, but she had just gotten a covid vaccine shot and was feeling a bit rough.) In any event, I think your experience with her at Vital may have more to do with Lily's directions than anything. Amy works at Commerce Massage on Wednesdays, so you can take that into consideration when scheduling there.

So, I obviously buried the lede there a bit. I was able to confirm that the woman you know as Wendy is the same woman I know as Lucy and the same woman that Firemanoh knows as Lisa. Apparently, she went by Wendy at Novi Massage, Lucy at Traditional, and is now introducing herself as Lisa at Commerce. She seemed surprised that there's a message board for customers and I told her that I know for a fact that they all network, too. She laughed a bit and then shared a few amusing tales, most of which reminded me of the same cattiness of the strippers when I used to work as a DJ back in the day. Anyway, she works every day at Commerce, unless she really needs the day off. She's getting her first covid shot in the next day or two, so she might be taking a day off if she has a rough go of it.

For those that know Jenny (not the Jenny from PT Nails; the Jenny from Traditional and now the owner of Commerce Massage), she texted me today that she's getting me back from out of town on Monday. She'll probably be back in the shop after that, especially if Wendy / Lucy / Lisa is needing the day off after getting her first vaccination.

Also, they got the store sign up on the brick overhang just yesterday, so it'll be a bit easier to find now. (Lucy said that someone couldn't find the place before, even though she gave them the address. Personally, I don't know how they missed it; the window signage isn't subtle.)[/QUOTE]Good intel HOC. I have intended to visit Wendy / Lisa at Commerce massage next week. Perhaps I'll schedule with Amy there as this environment plus her seeing me once may produce different results. I'll report back when I go.

Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.

He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?

Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.

Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .

But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh!

Less than a minute later Phil received a call from a Restricted number. The VM claims to be Livonia PoPo. The phone number is legit for LPD. Phil calls! Phil talks! Phil learns that LPD has already seen the videos and has a report / complaint and is issuing an arrest warrant for fraud.

Phil calls the guy a fourth time thinking that maybe he can negotiate a fat tip in exchange for mamasan promising not to prosecute. And the guy somehow knows that Phil JUST hung up with Detective ABC at LPD and he already knows about the arrest warrant. WTF?

I suggest that Phil shut up & lawyer up. But it may be too little, too late for Phil.

I used a bit of Google-Fu. And the guy texting Phil ultimately leads to a pic of a younger version of the olde man in OWL's back room, kit'd out and posing with a DHS helicopter. I smell bacon.

OWL does a damn fine, legit, deep tissue massage, but extras are unavailable and they apparently punish bad behavior.

[QUOTE=HungaryMan;5312964]Maybe she just used or borrowed a pic from the net as the first pic.[/QUOTE]Its her bro. Same face, same tits. Great body though.

[QUOTE=Smashing1979;5316287]Hi yall, long time monger first time poster. Moved to Michigan last year during covid but now that I'm fully vacinnated I feel comfortable jumping back into they hobby and have been checking out local establishments I have found here and on rubmaps. I will post findings and reports as I can. I got to say that the massage scene is lacking here which is surprising with a big city. Any who, some reports.

Maru massage in Saint Claire shores. Arrived during the weekend, 30 ish Chinese (I think?) girl. Skinny but not unattractive. The massage was high pressure and let me feel OTC and a little UTC up top. Got a hand job which was alright. Might repeat in a pinch but not bad.

Read a lot about Saigon spa and tiffany so wanted to check her out. Middle aged but sexy in a MILF kind of way. If this is the best you guys have to offer, that is kinda sad but I'll roll with it. Massage was non existent and hot stones were ok. Body slide and clothes come off. All the roaming you could want and hand job. I asked for more but she said maybe next time.

Made my way to Jackson since it was mentioned a lot. Went to lucky spa and drew Hannah. She's older and thicker but decent. Skipped the massage went straight to activities. CBJ, CFS. I didn't last too long I hate to admit haha but I plan on going again and trying Mikki since I heard so much about her being legendary.

Anyways that's all for now, will add more as time goes on. Peace![/QUOTE]Saigon is not what it use to be. All the hot babes left because of Tiffany. Some that left told me she was taking appointments from them. Telling clients that they were not in. What you got from her is all you're going to get. Google the Shiatsu spas or call P. T in St. Clair Shores for Jenny's number. Jenny and Ebony were the best at Saigon. Ther Ferndale spa is only providing 50+ sp who can't make it anywhere else. Both Shiatsu locations have the hottest. Jenny in St. Clair Shores has a great rack and will do BBFS even with new clients for less than $200. Hope this helps. Read the Forum for other locations. Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Jp1225;5318975]Totally off topic for the newly formed "Unicorn" thread, but here is an actual massage review nonetheless.

ScheduleD a 30 min nuru with Craigslist Lola in Pontiac. Directed me to her townhouse (likely a section 8 housing complex) so that was a little sketchy. But you are able to park out front and walk right up to her place. Pretty clean, has massage table in bedroom. She is naked in a robe. She is attractive. Thick curvy figure, pretty face. Massage was brief and above average. Is NOT a nuru massage, simply a naked body rub. She allows touching and gives a decent but not very enthusiastic hand finish. Her rate was 120 for 30 minutes (which she timed). I was able to finish but did not tip any additional (and she did not ask or seem to expect). Seemed to indicate that more service may be available in future but given that her "nuru" description is quite misleading I think it was only talk to get me to come back.

Was not horrible but not worth repeating when I can make the same drive for Jenny at PT nails for far better service.[/QUOTE]The only thing good about Lola is location. Not many options in north Oakland!

[QUOTE=OnAnonAnon;5320025]Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.

He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?

Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.

Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .

But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh![/QUOTE]Is there any chance that Phil could be charged with sexual assault or gross sexual imposition if in fact he grabbed as the report says he did?

[QUOTE=OnAnonAnon;5320025]Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.

He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?

Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.

Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .

But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh!

Less than a minute later Phil received a call from a Restricted number. The VM claims to be Livonia PoPo. The phone number is legit for LPD. Phil calls! Phil talks! Phil learns that LPD has already seen the videos and has a report / complaint and is issuing an arrest warrant for fraud.

Phil calls the guy a fourth time thinking that maybe he can negotiate a fat tip in exchange for mamasan promising not to prosecute. And the guy somehow knows that Phil JUST hung up with Detective ABC at LPD and he already knows about the arrest warrant. WTF?

I suggest that Phil shut up & lawyer up. But it may be too little, too late for Phil.

I used a bit of Google-Fu. And the guy texting Phil ultimately leads to a pic of a younger version of the olde man in OWL's back room, kit'd out and posing with a DHS helicopter. I smell bacon.

OWL does a damn fine, legit, deep tissue massage, but extras are unavailable and they apparently punish bad behavior.[/QUOTE]This was a superbly entertaining read, thanks for the story!

This is not surprising. Most of the spas have some level of security similar to what you described to protect the girls from sexual assault or go after those who don't pay what they're supposed to. Also, spa owners, managers, and many of the girls themselves read message boards like this one to get an idea of what's going on from the monger perspective.

Basically just don't be a creep or asshole, and most of us should have no problems at all.

[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;5320262]Is there any chance that Phil could be charged with sexual assault or gross sexual imposition if in fact he grabbed as the report says he did?[/QUOTE]Penny wise, pound foolish.

Hey All! Been a while since I've been on the boards but curios to know what has been going on with SWB lately. I drove past the old location expecting it to be something new (since last year they had a sign up in their window that they were moving to a new location up the road) but the SWB sign was still up above the building, the open sign still in the window (not lit because it was really early in the morning) and the "we're moving" sign taken down in the window. What happened here? Did they move and then move back to the old location? Last I heard, when they moved locations the extras seemed to vanish. Any info? PM's are always welcome.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;5320457]Hey All! Been a while since I've been on the boards but curios to know what has been going on with SWB lately. I drove past the old location expecting it to be something new (since last year they had a sign up in their window that they were moving to a new location up the road) but the SWB sign was still up above the building, the open sign still in the window (not lit because it was really early in the morning) and the "we're moving" sign taken down in the window. What happened here? Did they move and then move back to the old location? Last I heard, when they moved locations the extras seemed to vanish. Any info? PM's are always welcome.[/QUOTE]They never moved. The only thing that changed is the doors to the rooms are removed now and it's only curtains on the door openings making it difficult to relax.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;5320457]Hey All! Been a while since I've been on the boards but curios to know what has been going on with SWB lately. I drove past the old location expecting it to be something new (since last year they had a sign up in their window that they were moving to a new location up the road) but the SWB sign was still up above the building, the open sign still in the window (not lit because it was really early in the morning) and the "we're moving" sign taken down in the window. What happened here? Did they move and then move back to the old location? Last I heard, when they moved locations the extras seemed to vanish. Any info? PM's are always welcome.[/QUOTE]Same location, they didn't move. The one report that said the extras vanished was a fabricated report from a monger that had his lies called out and wrote a review full of half truths because he threw a temper tantrum. Hand jobs are still available from all providers.

[QUOTE=IAmNotMe;5320486]They never moved. The only thing that changed is the doors to the rooms are removed now and it's only curtains on the door openings making it difficult to relax.[/QUOTE]Yes I forgot that part too. The curtains are just god awful, especially during busy days (which seems like most days now). People walking in and out, mongers waiting in the front, talking on the phone, you can hear the guy in the room next door moaning, farting, or getting jerked off. Not worth going during busy hours if relaxation is one of your goals.

[QUOTE=MrRegular;5316838]Hardly any noise at all, there's a long hall way that has a few room (s) on both sides of the hall, there's 2 rooms on one side and 1 or 2 room (s) on the other side, and the most you'll hear is if someone comes in while your session is on going, & if another girl is available, she'll walk with the new arrival down the hall to another room, and maybe or maybe not, they'll walk past the room your in? And at most you'll hear a bit of conversation between them as they stroll by your closed curtain doorway? The providers at Famous are very polite & friendly.[/QUOTE]I wish they followed the same protocol as you mentioned. While I was enjoying peace and quiet with a great massage from Suzy, a loud monger comes in and they put him in the room next to me. After his loudness and the Korean language chatter between Suzy and the other girl, it finally goes silent. Either he died or fell asleep because I didn't hear another peep out of him. It would be nice if the city would let these AMP's put the doors back on the rooms so customers could relax in peace and quiet. Suzy is a pretty girl though, she's fit and also provides a good massage with standard ending. I'd repeat.

[QUOTE=OnAnonAnon;5320025]Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.

He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?

Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.

Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .

But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh!

Less than a minute later Phil received a call from a Restricted number. The VM claims to be Livonia PoPo. The phone number is legit for LPD. Phil calls! Phil talks! Phil learns that LPD has already seen the videos and has a report / complaint and is issuing an arrest warrant for fraud.

Phil calls the guy a fourth time thinking that maybe he can negotiate a fat tip in exchange for mamasan promising not to prosecute. And the guy somehow knows that Phil JUST hung up with Detective ABC at LPD and he already knows about the arrest warrant. WTF?

I suggest that Phil shut up & lawyer up. But it may be too little, too late for Phil.

I used a bit of Google-Fu. And the guy texting Phil ultimately leads to a pic of a younger version of the olde man in OWL's back room, kit'd out and posing with a DHS helicopter. I smell bacon.

OWL does a damn fine, legit, deep tissue massage, but extras are unavailable and they apparently punish bad behavior.[/QUOTE]Sounds a bit far fetched. With the amount of money those places make are they really going to make an issue involving the authorities over a hundred bucks or so? Not saying it ain't so, but it sounds a little far fetched.

[QUOTE=GolDark;5320490]Yes I forgot that part too. The curtains are just god awful, especially during busy days (which seems like most days now). People walking in and out, mongers waiting in the front, talking on the phone, you can hear the guy in the room next door moaning, farting, or getting jerked off. Not worth going during busy hours if relaxation is one of your goals.[/QUOTE]These spas have to convince the city to let them put the doors back on. It's ridiculous the amount of noise that goes on. I'm there to relax, not be on the edge every second. A few weeks ago at one establishment I had to listen to a guy coughing so much he sounded like he was hacking up a lung. I could hear him spitting part of his lung into a Kleenex and giving it to the poor masseuse he was with. Just recently at a different establishment I hear this guy telling his masseuse how just two weeks prior he had bad diarrhea. I thought, oh no, this guys going to start farting and shitting out an intestine. Luckily that didn't happen. Please let the doors go back on.

Spent the weekend in Battle Creek for some fun outings, and hoped to stop and see Mikki at Oriental on the way back. Unfortunately, lost my ass financially over the weekend, so no buffer for any additional fun activities. Decided to stop at McDonald's off of Ann Arbor Road to grab a bite along my 3 hour drive home and end up seeing the spa just 3 doors down. Maybe next time I guess.

[QUOTE=Jimbalaya;5320766]Spent the weekend in Battle Creek for some fun outings, and hoped to stop and see Mikki at Oriental on the way back. Unfortunately, lost my ass financially over the weekend, so no buffer for any additional fun activities. Decided to stop at McDonald's off of Ann Arbor Road to grab a bite along my 3 hour drive home and end up seeing the spa just 3 doors down. Maybe next time I guess.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen Mikki since she was at Hawaii Spa but I believe she's currently at Lucky Spa, not Oriental. Someone who's been there more recently can confirm.

[QUOTE=IAmNotMe;5320600]I wish they followed the same protocol as you mentioned. While I was enjoying peace and quiet with a great massage from Suzy, a loud monger comes in and they put him in the room next to me. After his loudness and the Korean language chatter between Suzy and the other girl, it finally goes silent. Either he died or fell asleep because I didn't hear another peep out of him. It would be nice if the city would let these AMP's put the doors back on the rooms so customers could relax in peace and quiet. Suzy is a pretty girl though, she's fit and also provides a good massage with standard ending. I'd repeat.[/QUOTE]That's not the norm, sounds like it was just unfortunate timing with the jerk that happened to come in when you were? But the way you explained it, it sounds likely that your Suzy told the other girl to quickly shut him up, because she & Yoko do have the courtesy to be aware of things, that on rare occasions happen like that, and they will calm things down, bc its not good for business! So I guess the "HANDFUL" of times I've been there (LOL) I've been lucky by not experiencing any distraction's like that? And I most certainly agree with wanting doors, although doubtful that the city will change, lets call it "the curtain code".

[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;5320262]Is there any chance that Phil could be charged with sexual assault or gross sexual imposition if in fact he grabbed as the report says he did?[/QUOTE]I would be curious to know if they have video recording of Phil grabbing the woman inappropriately at all? If they do, then does that mean every customer at ever spa is recorded with all the woman? That could mean an eventual bust for tons of people. If there is no video, then it is his word against hers. I have to say if they have video that should make everyone nervous about being recorded in private rooms.

[QUOTE=Jimbalaya;5320766]Spent the weekend in Battle Creek for some fun outings, and hoped to stop and see Mikki at Oriental on the way back. Unfortunately, lost my ass financially over the weekend, so no buffer for any additional fun activities. Decided to stop at McDonald's off of Ann Arbor Road to grab a bite along my 3 hour drive home and end up seeing the spa just 3 doors down. Maybe next time I guess.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I too was planning on going to an AMP yesterday but didn't have the funds. Anybody else?

[QUOTE=JDoe1969;5320853]I would be curious to know if they have video recording of Phil grabbing the woman inappropriately at all? If they do, then does that mean every customer at ever spa is recorded with all the woman? That could mean an eventual bust for tons of people. If there is no video, then it is his word against hers. I have to say if they have video that should make everyone nervous about being recorded in private rooms.[/QUOTE]I hope not. That would be insanely unethical but it happens. Robert Kraft was caught via cameras in the private room ceilings for example. However, many places have obvious cameras in the parking lot, in the entrance, and in the waiting areas. Like they don't even try to hide them. It's just an assumed risk in the hobby. If they're determined to, they will find a way to identify you.

[QUOTE=RoadHead;5320903]Thanks for the update. I too was planning on going to an AMP yesterday but didn't have the funds. Anybody else?[/QUOTE]Mikki and Hannah are at Lucky. Ginger, who is also worth a visit, is at Oriental.

[QUOTE=Jimbalaya;5320766]Spent the weekend in Battle Creek for some fun outings, and hoped to stop and see Mikki at Oriental on the way back. Unfortunately, lost my ass financially over the weekend, so no buffer for any additional fun activities. Decided to stop at McDonald's off of Ann Arbor Road to grab a bite along my 3 hour drive home and end up seeing the spa just 3 doors down. Maybe next time I guess.[/QUOTE]By which McDonalds? Over by Lilly? Or where Ann Arbor Road meets Ann arbor Trail? I haven't seen a spa by either of those.

So I struck out pretty hardcore at Cricket, Bogarts and Henry VIII. Couldn't find anything that I was willing to part ways with my money over (especially since I couldn't find any of my regulars the whole week). I'm guessing covid killed a lot of the girls going into the clubs that I used to see. Anyway, I noticed Spring Wellness on my way from the airport so I figured I would swing by and get a foot massage if they had chairs or something more if it resembled the type of place that will give extras. I ring the doorbell and a granny with a stained sweater and disheveled hair opens the door and mumbles for me to follow her. She looks like she just woke up (and it's 6 pm) so I ask if there's any other girls working (she looked as flat as an ironing board). She says yes and in comes "Betty". Total GILF, some really nice tits and decent body. Way better personality, too. I think it's weird that the 30 min is $60 (seems high but I'm willing to risk it). Long story short, CBJ and CFS for $140. Great tits, tight puss, and some much welcomed enthusiasm. I was not expecting that at all. And that ends up being my parting shot in Detroit. Likely will not be back anytime soon. I've had some good times in Detroit but those are in the past. See you, Detroit.

[QUOTE=GolDark;5320934]I hope not. That would be insanely unethical but it happens. Robert Kraft was caught via cameras in the private room ceilings for example. However, many places have obvious cameras in the parking lot, in the entrance, and in the waiting areas. Like they don't even try to hide them. It's just an assumed risk in the hobby. If they're determined to, they will find a way to identify you.[/QUOTE]I think with Robert Kraft the police actually snuck in and planted the video cameras somehow. My concern would be the establishment hiding them and keeping recordings on file possibly. This would be dumb as hell on their part but we know stupid people exists.

Any reports on this place? [URL]https://massage.eros.com/michigan/files/6615387.htm?cat=83[/URL].

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JDoe1969;5321069]I think with Robert Kraft the police actually snuck in and planted the video cameras somehow. My concern would be the establishment hiding them and keeping recordings on file possibly. This would be dumb as hell on their part but we know stupid people exists.[/QUOTE]You're right that the cameras were placed inside. You'll also recall that the Florida appeals court threw out the use of the video at trial because the planting of the cameras in the room was considered too invasive, given the crimes that were trying to be investigated.

[URL]https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-ne-robert-kraft-prostitution-charges-dropped-20200924-ukbylfdmojhz3p7jdaxmftq5vi-story.html[/URL]

Businesses have security cameras everywhere. I would expect that there are plenty of MPs where you would be filmed going in or out by someone else's camera that just happens to spot you. Look around you.