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Fellow Mongers, I have been having difficulty with providers and would like to understand what's wrong. I use a Burner Phone app on my phone when communicating with providers. Twice in the past 2 weeks however, I received a text asking me if I'm using a burner. The first time was with Joyce and I realized that the number was once associated with a law firm and quickly burned that. However, today tried to see a provider, Vanessa Aimes. Was about to reach incall in Springfield when I get a text asking me to call on my real number. I have no idea how she knew I was using a burner, since I googled the number after the previous incident. I am getting paranoid and feel that I dodged a bullet on that one. I haven't been able to find anything online but is there a way to determine besides googling the number to tell if it's a burner or not?

[QUOTE=SexsSarved9141;3362321]Fellow Mongers, I have been having difficulty with providers and would like to understand what's wrong. I use a Burner Phone app on my phone when communicating with providers. Twice in the past 2 weeks however, I received a text asking me if I'm using a burner. The first time was with Joyce and I realized that the number was once associated with a law firm and quickly burned that. However, today tried to see a provider, Vanessa Aimes. Was about to reach incall in Springfield when I get a text asking me to call on my real number. I have no idea how she knew I was using a burner, since I googled the number after the previous incident. I am getting paranoid and feel that I dodged a bullet on that one. I haven't been able to find anything online but is there a way to determine besides googling the number to tell if it's a burner or not?[/QUOTE]Like a radar detector detector, there are apps to tell you if the number calling / texting is an app and give you all the information on that number. Best bet is to just get a cheap burner phone or move on to the next lady.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3361424]Since it doesn't sound like you saw her for the massage part of the session, and since the sensual part (from the info you posted) seems best described as a mutual touch nude HJ session, what makes her a better value than a 200 per hr FS provider?

Just curious as there are quite a few non-FS girls who offer 180-200 sessions. Most of them are non-GFE and either don't provide oral options or, like Kendell, might do CBJ. Not a great value proposition, IMHO, but I've never taken that plunge so just curious to understand what the attraction is.[/QUOTE]I get on a FBSM kick for a bit over the FS gals. More time, more intimacy in a strange way, and a bit more of a connection. Of course, YMMV with all the ladies. Also curious on what other guys' thoughts are on this.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3361424]Since it doesn't sound like you saw her for the massage part of the session, and since the sensual part (from the info you posted) seems best described as a mutual touch nude HJ session, what makes her a better value than a 200 per hr FS provider?

Just curious as there are quite a few non-FS girls who offer 180-200 sessions. Most of them are non-GFE and either don't provide oral options or, like Kendell, might do CBJ. Not a great value proposition, IMHO, but I've never taken that plunge so just curious to understand what the attraction is.[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on how you look at things. While a $$ FS session might be nice, im guessing just because it is s FS session does not always mean it is always a great session. Many times those sessions last about 30-40 minutes, if that. And might have an Upsell. I heard of a session with Kitty, where she wanted .8 for 30 minutes. Then wanted another $ . 2 for FS, she was talked down to. 8, but she said let's make it quick. was in and out in 20 minutes. Total $ . 6. With Kendell got about 15 minutes of massage (again not her fault to anxious) about 20 minutes of playing - prostate, FIV, CBJ. About 20 minutes of snuggling, relaxing, chatting. Then other another 15 minutes of FIV and HJ. Total time about 70 minutes for $$.

Using your personal phone for hobby:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVCROjpgCB0[/URL]

Encrypt your Android phone:

[URL]http://www.networkworld.com/article/2689371/opensource-subnet/how-to-encrypt-an-android-device-in-5-steps.html[/URL]

There are always three texts stored if using a real phone:

Sender.

Receiver.

Phone company.

Encrypted messaging, no screenshots, auto expire / auto delete:

Dust App.

TigerText App.

Chat Secure App.

Wickr Me App.

Burner /2nd phone number:

Sideline App.

Hushed app.

Burner App.

Hiding apps on your phone:

Apex Launcher.

Parallel Space.

[QUOTE=Grafenberg;3362352]Like a radar detector detector, there are apps to tell you if the number calling / texting is an app and give you all the information on that number. Best bet is to just get a cheap burner phone or move on to the next lady.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DcManLive;3351780]I have seen Halia several times over the last year or so, and her friend Lena, and always have had a great time.

A few weeks ago I Had not seen any ads lately so I looked up her number on the other site and sent her a text. Unfortunately we could not agree on a time. But something about the conversation did not seem right. But I thought it might just be my imagination.

Then a few days ago I finally saw an ad on BP, so again I sent her a text. It seems she is now operating out of hotels, in the past she had always been out of various apartments or condos. Again though the conversation through text just did not seem right? Has anyone seen her lately? Was everything cool?[/QUOTE]I just saw Halia at one of her hotel locations. Everything seems fine. She does a great nude bodyrub for 160/30 or 200/ hr and also does GFE for 300. You have seen her already so you know what I mean. When I walked through the door, she was completely nude and I liked what I saw. I came in for the bodyrub but decided to upgrade to the GFE and was not disappointed. As advertised, it was GFE with a BBBJ and friendly attitude. She is also easy to talk to. She has a lot of tatts and some piercings so if you are not into that, be warned. I don't know where she advertises but I just got her number through the OTHER review website and she can still be contacted at that number. She didn't do any screening with me so I guess she sizes you up when you arrive at the door.

[QUOTE=Mayhem101;3363423]I just saw Halia at one of her hotel locations. Everything seems fine. She does a great nude bodyrub for 160/30 or 200/ hr and also does GFE for 300. You have seen her already so you know what I mean. When I walked through the door, she was completely nude and I liked what I saw. I came in for the bodyrub but decided to upgrade to the GFE and was not disappointed. As advertised, it was GFE with a BBBJ and friendly attitude. She is also easy to talk to. She has a lot of tatts and some piercings so if you are not into that, be warned. I don't know where she advertises but I just got her number through the OTHER review website and she can still be contacted at that number. She didn't do any screening with me so I guess she sizes you up when you arrive at the door.[/QUOTE]It looks like she has upped her upcharges. 30 and 60 sessions are the same, but I was never charged $$$.

[URL]http://anakisses953.callgirlfiles.com/[/URL]

She also posts on BP.

Recently saw Ana out in the Dulles area, scheduling was easy via text with minimal screening. Had to call from the floor of the hotel she was staying at which during the day is no big deal.

She's a small BBW but has an exotic look about her. A bit of a conversation to break the ice and I laid down the donation (120/30) and off came the clothes and got started. Great skin and a nice girl to hold close.

CBJ was adequate, no kissing in spite the name, and then on to the main event. She is quite flexible and I was looking forward to this but alas, not the most pleasant of smells coming from the nether regions.

I soldiered on, mish then doggy then I am done. She was quite vocal with the appropriate moans and such and I think they were genuine, the girl likes sex.

I will not repeat.

Hey guys, long time monger from another state looking for some good quality providers with a very dark complexion for my visit. Thanks in advance and I'll be sure to leave a review of my experience.

Recently spent a very enjoyable hour or so with van. She is Thai and works with kk. She has active ads you may find her that way. She is probably just over 40, or under a few years, very pretty and pleasant to be around. She prefers older gentleman. Hour massage 1. 2, YMMV on any extras. Quality of massage is "di mak" the best. She wants only appointment info during text or calls, talk in person on special arrangements. Front / top room numbers are 38 dd very impressive.

[QUOTE=PomLovesThais;3365062]Recently spent a very enjoyable hour or so with van. She is Thai and works with kk. She has active ads you may find her that way. She is probably just over 40, or under a few years, very pretty and pleasant to be around. She prefers older gentleman. Hour massage 1. 2, YMMV on any extras. Quality of massage is "di mak" the best. She wants only appointment info during text or calls, talk in person on special arrangements. Front / top room numbers are 38 dd very impressive.[/QUOTE]Another great team member with KK - thank you KK.

Yeh she looks nice and she is close to me also I would love to know if anyone have seen her?

[QUOTE=Suspect;3361850]Dumfries?

929-446-9089.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-latina-ready-to-please-you-papi/26441409[/URL]

Anyone have a review of her?[/QUOTE]

What's up everybody. I posted on the DC site concerning my interest in a certain provider but nobody answered. Since then I've found like 5 or 6 bad bitties I'm interested in seeing. Tomorrow I'm coming up from SS Va to DMV for a few days and need some Intel. Fam, I'm trying to kick it with a thick busty chick.

The first one that caught my attention is Renata.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/703-371-4212-if-you-know-me-you-know-that-they-are-real-not-false-photos/26409510.[/URL]

I reached out to her but she never reached back. Now normally I would just pass and keep it moving. But Fam, you've got to see what I see. You don't come across chicks stacked like that everyday.

The second golden nugget is Lili.

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/the-b&[/URL]#949;st-is-back_limited-timε-e-otic-big-booty-tattεd-amazon_highl-areεviεwεd /27445896.

She's precisely my type. A little on the pricey side but dayuum! Y'all see what I see.

The third chick I'm eyeballing is the MILF Ms Rio.

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/maybe-it-does-sound-like-a-cliche/27294399.[/URL]

I like MILF gals like her. She seems like she would be interesting.

The fourth lady of interest is the Southern Bell Charlotte Anne.

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/charlotte-anne-paterson/27843273.[/URL]

She's highly attractive and appears to aim to please.

Last but not is BBW Charity.

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/tysons-corner-upscale-beautiful-green-eyed-beauty-busty-44-j-bbw-ready-to-play/26490401.[/URL]

The smile and those juggs? J-size juggs at that? Come on Fam!

Any Intel is good Intel. You can hit me on my PM. If any of why'all travel south to Central Va or Northern NC I know a few golden nuggets down there as well.

Almost all Latinas in Dumfries work in the same motel for the same crew. Biggest give away is they barely speak English. Almost never look like the pictures. Standard service is quick CBJ, two standard positions, try to finish quick and push you out the door. It's a quantity over quality crew. Recommend you stick to Q. V. The first time until you find a gem. Even then they'll swap different girls using the same pic.

And if Sessions is to be believed, Latina crews may be seeing LEO pressure as a by product.

[QUOTE=Suspect;3361850]Dumfries?

929-446-9089.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-latina-ready-to-please-you-papi/26441409[/URL]

Anyone have a review of her?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeyJoeJo;3370090]Almost all Latinas in Dumfries work in the same motel for the same crew. Biggest give away is they barely speak English. Almost never look like the pictures. Standard service is quick CBJ, two standard positions, try to finish quick and push you out the door. It's a quantity over quality crew. Recommend you stick to Q. V. The first time until you find a gem. Even then they'll swap different girls using the same pic.

And if Sessions is to be believed, Latina crews may be seeing LEO pressure as a by product.[/QUOTE]IMHO, many Latina operations work very similarly to the Asian variety. If you search the forum for "crapshoot" you'll find posts with reports and advice about how to improve the odds of getting the most for your $. The short version is to book the least amount of time possible (as you posted), do what you can to get the provider "warmed up" (short backrub, DATY if that's your thing, etc.) and always get the personal digits of any gems so you can find them later.

With similarities noted, Latinas certainly have their unique qualities. IME, they tend to be much more moody, which can be good or bad depending on when you see them. They also tend not to put much effort into any kind of massage (at least not as much as Asian providers) so there really isn't much point in expecting that to be a significant part of your session. On the positive side they can be very responsive if you happen to push the right buttons and you can end up with a GFE session when you least expect it.

As far as LEO is concerned, I think any group of foreign providers could conceivably end up in their crosshairs, especially when you consider how much the definition of "trafficking" has been stretched to include activities which don't include coercion and have always been part of the hobby. As has been posted many times in the News & Media section, it doesn't take much for one of those investigations to snowball and ensnare people engaged in adult, consensual behavior. Got to think with the big head and always put safety first!