Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;1539984]This has nothing to do with YA's post. I have been in contact with Sophia also and got the same story as YA. So the bottom line is you are saying that she is that she has lied to us. It is your word against her's, not your word against YA. I have been a regular here for 3 years two times a week so why would Sophia lie to me and not accept my business? Remember Muff daddy you are the unknown part of this equation.[/QUOTE]Dude. I don't know what you are trying to say. Call up Sophia and tell her about your customer loyalty issues. I've got Sherlock Ape and You hawking me now. Sometimes small favors are asked and that's nobody's business especially yours. So myob, You and the Ape man. I'm done with the Abbott and Costello interrogation.

I agree! We need to support these 2 Spa`s. Don`t forget no one is above the law. If the police act in a criminal manner there are many places to go to report them. One is the I A office with the PPD they are the watch dogs of the own. Also there is the RISP they watch all departments. That`s just to name a few. There is nothing wrong with going into a licenced business. So keep the faith and lets get through this. If we stick together and support these spa`s the LE will eventually go away. How many times are they going to have to go to a review board to allocate money to this. Not much longer. We just have to wait them out. Record any thing by LE for evidence. I think we have a larger group on people then they have. I for one am not going away quietly. Keep the post comming with any Idea`s or info.

As always Stay Safe.

Print this out and keep in your wallet. It might be handy for all occasions.

I refuse to consent to any search of my premises, the location of my arrest, my car or effects. I wish to exercise my rights under the 4th. 5th and 6th Amendments to remain silent and to have my attorney present during any questioning or line up. If you ignore my exercise of these rights and attempt to procure a wavier, I wish to confer with my attorney prior to any conversation with law enforcement agents on the subject of waiver.

Gentlemen, and fellow mongers. I have a bit of a different take on what's been happening here in regards to the spas. The goal of those involved is the same, (to close the spas) but there are different methods to effect that. If you have the time or inclination, I would have you read this article,

[url]http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/06/warren_fights_image_of_massage.html[/url] And the Warren Ohio threads on this forum.

Up until the raids by the Warren Police Dept. And the Ohio Bureau of Investigations and the attorney general of that state around June 1 of this year, Warren was AMP Heaven, to say the least. Now they are all gone, with regards to extras. They were able to do it by getting camera footage of customers entering and leaving, tracking them down by license plates, and getting them to sing by calling them at home or work, and getting them to give affadavits which were used as evidence in court to get the establishments closed as a public nuisance. They even got an attorney, who should have known better, to sing by their tactics, which was to keep calling their homes and businesses until they gave it up.

The raids were highly publicized on TV and the print media, and a list of names and addresses of the men who cooperated were published, but the mongers were given immunity and were not charged. They also gave the owners and providers time to leave the area, by not actually arresting them all at the time of the raid, but saying the investigation was continuing. They were more interested in getting TV footage of the mayor, police chief and others actually boarding up the spas.

My point is that it looks like here, they are not even that interested in doing a big raid, but going around and telling them to shut down, and giving them a chance to get out of town without being charged. I don't think this is anything to do with election year politics, but there is some pressure coming down from somewhere, and the AMPs are being given an opportunity to quietly leave without a lot of publicity, and without a lot of arrests, if the spas comply.

[QUOTE=Muff Daddy;1540541]Dude. I don't know what you are trying to say. Call up Sophia and tell her about your customer loyalty issues. I've got Sherlock Ape and You hawking me now. Sometimes small favors are asked and that's nobody's business especially yours. So myob, You and the Ape man. I'm done with the Abbott and Costello interrogation.[/QUOTE]You made a post that was BS and you got called on it, bottom line! I imagine that you are well under 6 feet tall it sounds to me that you have little man's disease. You call people names etc. I read thru your 21 posts and there is not a lot of substance in any of them. Napoleonic complexes are very common and any decent therapist can treat it within 8 to 12 months.

Good luck!

Fever

Just a quick note, keep in mind that the Spa owners and the Mamasans are reading this forum along with other forms of media. The report on the "storm troopers" while possibly intended good info and helpful will work against the Spa's returning! Just what LE wants. Bottom line is that the fear outweighs any action from LE. The more we "speculate" and report on whats going on the more we close the door to the Spa's.

[QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver;1540716]Just a quick note, keep in mind that the Spa owners and the Mamasans are reading this forum along with other forms of media. The report on the "storm troopers" while possibly intended good info and helpful will work against the Spa's returning! Just what LE wants. Bottom line is that the fear outweighs any action from LE. The more we "speculate" and report on whats going on the more we close the door to the Spa's.[/QUOTE]I hold heartly agree with Muff, if we start this Bs about what could and couldn't happen we will never get back our lovely ladies. We all acting like a gagle of old hen, STFu and only post should be on the type of service we get from what spa. We don't need to know every frigging sec of what went on in the room (if you need to know pm that person). This is a battle against us and the Harassment Leo has put on our favorite places.

I know I'll piss some of you off, but in the end are you going to give me happy ending (well I hope not).

[QUOTE=TapThePie;1540943]I know I'll piss some of you off, but in the end are you going to give me happy ending (well I hope not).[/QUOTE]That would definitly make for an awkward fest to be sure.

This situation was bound to happen sooner or later. You must make backup plans. I was in DC when LE swooped in and shut 7 places down in the mid 00s.

Some girls were taken in and deported also in Ct. I had numbers of few girls and would find out where they went, usually home or to Manhattan NJ or Philly. If these places do open again they won't be serving up the same menus I'm sure. If they do they won't be around much longer. If Dick Tracy wants them shut they will be whether you rant or not. It's part of life so get over it.

Had a dream that there still were some spa's open other then the HJ shacks. If you don't know what I'm talking about feel free to PM. But you got to be known and trusted! BTW. They not in LaProv.

Muffy

With the current LEO action, things are getting tough. Too bad LEO can't keep busy cracking down on gay bars / clubs. Talk about den of inequity. Maybe that's the answer, reopen spas and call them "Gay Rubs" and no one will bother them. Got to be politically correct you know.

Last night on my way to a friends place around 10:20 pm I drove by ABC around. There were no cars in the parking lot but the ABC spa neon sign was on, are they open again?

[QUOTE=SMS 54; 1540663]Gentlemen, and fellow mongers. I have a bit of a different take on what's been happening here in regards to the spas. The goal of those involved is the same, (to close the spas) but there are different methods to effect that. If you have the time or inclination, I would have you read this article,

[url]http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/06/warren_fights_image_of_massage.html[/url]

And the Warren Ohio threads on this forum.

Up until the raids by the Warren Police Dept. And the Ohio Bureau of Investigations and the attorney general of that state around June 1 of this year, Warren was AMP Heaven, to say the least. Now they are all gone, with regards to extras. They were able to do it by getting camera footage of customers entering and leaving, tracking them down by license plates, and getting them to sing by calling them at home or work, and getting them to give affadavits which were used as evidence in court to get the establishments closed as a public nuisance. They even got an attorney, who should have known better, to sing by their tactics, which was to keep calling their homes and businesses until they gave it up.

The raids were highly publicized on TV and the print media, and a list of names and addresses of the men who cooperated were published, but the mongers were given immunity and were not charged. They also gave the owners and providers time to leave the area, by not actually arresting them all at the time of the raid, but saying the investigation was continuing. They were more interested in getting TV footage of the mayor, police chief and others actually boarding up the spas.

My point is that it looks like here, they are not even that interested in doing a big raid, but going around and telling them to shut down, and giving them a chance to get out of town without being charged. I don't think this is anything to do with election year politics, but there is some pressure coming down from somewhere, and the AMPs are being given an opportunity to quietly leave without a lot of publicity, and without a lot of arrests, if the spas comply.[/QUOTE]Over 3 months have passed with still no charges have been filed about the allegations of human trafficking, money laundering, drugs, racketeering and prostitution but they are all boarded up and gone forever. This could be a national way of putting them out of business. We didn't call it AMP Heaven for the hell of it, whatever you wanted was available. Good Luck and Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Pussyhunter69;1541937]Last night on my way to a friends place around 10:20 pm I drove by ABC around. There were no cars in the parking lot but the ABC spa neon sign was on, are they open again?[/QUOTE]One way to find out is to drive in to the parking lot, park, walk up to the door, ring the buzzer and see what happens.

[QUOTE=Pussyhunter69;1541937]Last night on my way to a friends place around 10:20 pm I drove by ABC around. There were no cars in the parking lot but the ABC spa neon sign was on, are they open again?[/QUOTE]AFAIK the signed remained on all the time. Yesterday, I had a glimmer of hope when I say the lights on inside and a car (MA plate) parked outside. I called them no one answered. Maybe it was the owners.