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[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6569239]Found this pornstar SB.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db4d911c-c94f-4d2e-8667-33c46f793e41[/URL]
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/models/rhea-radford[/URL][/QUOTE]They don't make them like they used to. And yes I did LOL.
[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;6569252]They don't make them like they used to. And yes I did LOL.[/QUOTE]The porn links he provided are when she was younger and she has makeup on. So she actually looks better in the vids. She's older now and her seeking profile she's not wearing makeup but still looks good.
As for the real pornstar she's pretty but I'm not into fake tits. I prefer them natural even if they are small. So many amateur porn girls that started with nice natural tits, even if on the smaller side that end up getting big fake boobs that don't look good on them. The natural fresh look is so much better.
[QUOTE=Lexx1;6569307]The porn links he provided are when she was younger and she has makeup on. So she actually looks better in the vids. She's older now and her seeking profile she's not wearing makeup but still looks good.
As for the real pornstar she's pretty but I'm not into fake tits. I prefer them natural even if they are small. So many amateur porn girls that started with nice natural tits, even if on the smaller side that end up getting big fake boobs that don't look good on them. The natural fresh look is so much better.[/QUOTE]I agree natural is better, but she sure did look good with those.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2968e949-828d-42fd-9300-f862c875324c[/URL]
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6569998][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2968e949-828d-42fd-9300-f862c875324c[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, but more importantly, when in doubt (about anything) it's best to move on. Trust your gut.
Brings to mind one time when I agonized about meeting this girl because I felt something was up. Literally lost sleep over it. It turned out she just had a BF and they were fighting, and once I got her home she started feeling guilty and backed off. But better to be safe than sorry.
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6544852]Quite the milfy hottie. Any info? Many thanks in advance.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d54f910f-bacc-4e46-b0dd-01731043c10d[/URL][/QUOTE]Photos from seeking.
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6569998][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2968e949-828d-42fd-9300-f862c875324c[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't think she is trans. She is into running and looks like she has a 30+ year old 5'8" runners body. Most of the trans state that they are. It is still stupid as fuk that the app puts them into whatever gender they pretend to be. I guess that is one benefit of the hide / block feature.
[QUOTE=KathmanDouche;6570848]I don't think she is trans. She is into running and looks like she has a 30+ year old 5'8" runners body. Most of the trans state that they are. It is still stupid as fuk that the app puts them into whatever gender they pretend to be. I guess that is one benefit of the hide / block feature.[/QUOTE]Serious question here. I don't understand the appeal of trans people, sexually. Some must like them because they are there announcing themselves. But it just seems confusing. How is a girl who used to be a boy appealing? Like who likes that? Is that people who are bi and want the best of both? People who like sexual oddities? I feel like I can't understand how that's appealing to anyone.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fed32168-d9d9-4837-8fa1-13b513783d95[/URL]
Cute, although a bit too much ink for my taste. Looks like a great body but who knows until you see it in the flesh. Discussing rates and then she tells me no kissing until she feels comfortable. I tell her no go and then she goes off on me for not being able to wait a few times for that.
NEXT.
Been working hard on contacting / meeting new SBs over the past 3 months. Probably contacting 25 to 35 per week. Have found a few gems and a bunch of turds. Curious what other guys have found.
1. $600 is the new $300 from pre pandemic. Able to talk it down to $5 but at the risk of tainting her attitude. Would rather pay the extra and get all the extras. Kind of like the chef spitting in the food.
This is for anything from mediocre to good. The exception is a new SB that hasn't been exposed to the GPS from Reddit and other stupid sources. Interesting that on the Reddit Sugarlife forums, the avg PPM is $300 for LA. Not sure how that is found as the absolute bottom basement I've seen is $300 so where is the $200 that's averaging out the $4's and $5's?
2. $1 k is the new $500 from pre pandemic. For all the hotties that used to be $500, it's $1 k+ now. Unfortunately, this also includes the ones that used to be a hottie and no longer fit that.
3. $6 k - $10 k allowance. Used to be rarified air. Not so much. So many professional SBs meaning that's all they do. Don't work. Don't do shit. Just living off SDs.
4. PPM + expensive dinners + gifts+ travel -- used to be if you're doing PPM, then dinner on the first couple dates and then just straight to the action thereafter with no expectation of gifts. Conversely, gifts + travel was also an option but no PPM or allowance. Again, either Reddit or Crypto bros have fucked this one up. Straight up in the profile are expectations of all of the above. Otherwise you're a splenda, fake, or cheap SD.
Strangely enough, these expectations are not limited to the supermodel types or social media influencers. Always get a kick out of finding a 50 k+ follower influencer that's begging for a SD and preaching on wealth creation))). This is after excluding the obvious pro's, super long nails, super long fake eyelash types. I've tried the AA and Latina route and even gone outside of the general LA area. No better than $500 to start. Depressing.
5's to 7's are also quoting these asks without shame. Same for late 30's through late 40's MILF types. $600 to $1 k is the norm if she's cute and has a good body. Nothing fantastic but you might take a 2nd look at Whole Foods.
GPS is alive and well and spreading quickly.
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6572072][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fed32168-d9d9-4837-8fa1-13b513783d95[/URL]
Cute, although a bit too much ink for my taste. Looks like a great body but who knows until you see it in the flesh. Discussing rates and then she tells me no kissing until she feels comfortable. I tell her no go and then she goes off on me for not being able to wait a few times for that..[/QUOTE]What was her rate? She Favorited me LOL.
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6572103]GPS is alive and well and spreading quickly.[/QUOTE]I started in this game with basically unlimited funds. I was one of those overpaid internet dudes capitalizing on the ignorance of the masses. Starting with the crash of 2008 I had to reprioritize my spending. I still had a hefty budget but was dating 20-25 days a month and had to keep it at 3 k a month maximum. I was asking myself, like how is this even possible?
So I put all my energy into figuring out how to pay less. The main theme of my convo's has been putting a lot into letting them know I am interested in them as a person, that I am not pushy (which I am not) and that I am a fun person. Now this is not going to work on a strictly money motivated gal most of the time, but sometimes it does. And just like a lot of you guys want something more than just pussy but more of a GF type arrangement, well some of these girls are looking for the same thing and especially if they are new. So you need to be sincere or a good actor.
And I do have two approaches depending on the vibe I get off their profile. One is more sincere and the other is for the obvious one night stand girls. But I have a bit of each come-on in both of them to mitigate the risk of going too far in one direction or the other.
As far as GPS, today my main girl made $$$ just selling videos online. Yes they are very sexy but there is no nudity or sex going on. So if a girl can make bank without even meeting a guy or taking her clothes off, the cost for meeting just went through the roof. In her case its 1 k for a trip to the FC which she doesn't even look for and has even made that much just chatting with guys online (with her clothes on). And yes she has 10 years experience covering the full range of SW. Dancing, dating, OF, etc. But I met her before she did all that and I was paying a $ a date and seeing her about 10 days a month and all overnites. Today she lives in my apt complex and I pay nothing but that's the benefit of a 10 year relationship.
And admittedly if you are not a tall, in-shape or good-looking guy or if you are someone that gets nervous around pretty girls then you are going to pay more. But to this day almost every girl that gets to know me calls me a dork. So you can be a dork, or short, or average looking but you really need to work on your communication / social skills. And if getting rejected bothers you for any reason, then you will never get past the GPS. Because all rejection can be eliminated if you pay enough. I know some of you guys are super busy and traveling and just don't have the time or energy to get past the fact that you have been married forever and just don't have the dating skills needed to get past the GPS (and may not even care).
But I started this after coming off of 25 years of marriage and only getting extra pussy when it almost fell in my lap. I got married soon after HS and I had really no social / dating skills at all. Lucky for me what really gave me some inspiration was my first real SB. She took full advantage of my lameness when we were together (I was spending about 6 k a month on her for 2 years) but when we were breaking up she told me I was clueless, had low self esteem & could actually get any hot girl I wanted. She gave me a few pointers and I was on my way.
But it actually took 2 more years of work to learn how to get a steady stream of reasonably priced pussy and I have never looked back. But I put in the time, experimented with multiple come ons and even kept excel spreadsheets with multiple data points. That's what it took for me. But as always YMMV in this game no matter how much time or energy you invest. And that's the way I approached it... as a long term investment.
Ya'll be posting up some real fuglies up in here. Whats good? LOL.
I follow a thread for sugar babies on Reddit. Let me tell hou what I think is really happening.
A small minority of girls are getting monthly allowances in the thousands or ppm of 1 k+.
And there is a much larger cohort of girls sitting around cursing guys for being cheap, splenda daddies, johns, hobbyists, etc while they sit frustrated by the supposedly lowball offers they are getting.
It's like the housing market in LA. The prices are remaining buoyant but it's only because transaction volume has plummeted so we only see overpriced sales, not the majority of transactions that never actually happen because there's no agreement on price.
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6572103]Been working hard on contacting / meeting new SBs over the past 3 months. Probably contacting 25 to 35 per week. Have found a few gems and a bunch of turds. Curious what other guys have found.
1. $600 is the new $300 from pre pandemic. Able to talk it down to $5 but at the risk of tainting her attitude. Would rather pay the extra and get all the extras. Kind of like the chef spitting in the food.
This is for anything from mediocre to good. The exception is a new SB that hasn't been exposed to the GPS from Reddit and other stupid sources. Interesting that on the Reddit Sugarlife forums, the avg PPM is $300 for LA. Not sure how that is found as the absolute bottom basement I've seen is $300 so where is the $200 that's averaging out the $4's and $5's?
2. $1 k is the new $500 from pre pandemic. For all the hotties that used to be $500, it's $1 k+ now. Unfortunately, this also includes the ones that used to be a hottie and no longer fit that.
3. $6 k - $10 k allowance. Used to be rarified air. Not so much. So many professional SBs meaning that's all they do. Don't work. Don't do shit. Just living off SDs.
4. PPM + expensive dinners + gifts+ travel -- used to be if you're doing PPM, then dinner on the first couple dates and then just straight to the action thereafter with no expectation of gifts. Conversely, gifts + travel was also an option but no PPM or allowance. Again, either Reddit or Crypto bros have fucked this one up. Straight up in the profile are expectations of all of the above. Otherwise you're a splenda, fake, or cheap SD.
Strangely enough, these expectations are not limited to the supermodel types or social media influencers. Always get a kick out of finding a 50 k+ follower influencer that's begging for a SD and preaching on wealth creation))). This is after excluding the obvious pro's, super long nails, super long fake eyelash types. I've tried the AA and Latina route and even gone outside of the general LA area. No better than $500 to start. Depressing.
5's to 7's are also quoting these asks without shame. Same for late 30's through late 40's MILF types. $600 to $1 k is the norm if she's cute and has a good body. Nothing fantastic but you might take a 2nd look at Whole Foods.
GPS is alive and well and spreading quickly.[/QUOTE]
I've been in touch w / her for a week since rejoining. Pretty but quirky. Was supposed to meet this morning, I think she was trying to avoid it, suggested doing a picnic lunch. Not on my schedule, already had a lunch M&G.
Anyone else have any luck w / her?