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I thought you guys were being paranoid with the white suv reports. Yesterday I pulled in and was about to exit my car to enter the spa and seen a guy walk from another black van parked nearby, did something in the suv that took about a minute and then left. Glad I didn't go in. I just split.
[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;6002223]It is hard to tell that the TER picture are the same person as the more current ones. The current pictures have been around a while maybe 5 years so the TER pics must be 20 years old at least.[/QUOTE]When I saw her in Feb she had a tight little body and a pretty face. FWIW I'm extremely picky when it comes to weight / fat chicks and extra weight a huge turn off for me. Fat arms or a gut especially. She looked good.
I see that Tiffany is back. Photos aren't her and it is just a lame massage, fully clothed with no hint of any extras.
[URL]https://akron-canton.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/blissful-escapes-with-tiffany/431150792403[/URL]
[QUOTE=LoveSixNine;6006300]I thought you guys were being paranoid with the white suv reports. Yesterday I pulled in and was about to exit my car to enter the spa and seen a guy walk from another black van parked nearby, did something in the suv that took about a minute and then left. Glad I didn't go in. I just split.[/QUOTE]The reports of that white SUV and now black van remind me of the original Mission Impossible TV series (1966).
Peter Lupus was the actor who always drove the large van with all the electronic gear and other gadgets.
The series was ahead of its time, for those of you who may remember it.
LE had installed a surreptitious camera in the Florida AMP that was used to bust NE Patriots owner Robert Kraft and others.
A Florida court threw out the resulting video.
[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/robert-kraft-massage-parlor-arrest-sex-worker-fined-1098303/[/URL]
There is a vacant store front or two in that strip.
Would be funny if the vehicles in question belonged to plumbers or electricians doing work for the plaza's owner.
[QUOTE=TomMubbles;6006479]When I saw her in Feb she had a tight little body and a pretty face. FWIW I'm extremely picky when it comes to weight / fat chicks and extra weight a huge turn off for me. Fat arms or a gut especially. She looked good.[/QUOTE]Her voice takes some getting used to. But that's not why we go!
[QUOTE=DaveTheLoose;6001931][URL]https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093[/URL]
I saw Monica the other day. Everything was easy to set up. Good communication. Safe office location. Friendly, sane person who puts you at ease. Better than average HJ. But she's an older woman with an older woman's body. And she gets naked during the session. So if that's not your thing, you've been forewarned.[/QUOTE]Did you tip her or was everything one price?
[QUOTE=Spaceman7;6007390]Did you tip her or was everything one price?[/QUOTE]I always tip. But she was unusual in that she didn't even ask for ANY money up front, and this was my first time seeing her.
Glad someone else called bullshit on this. Dude tries shaming me for low tip on poor service. Then tells others just ignore what you see and your gut feeling. References a Florida situation as a setup when we live in NE Ohio and 2019 had 13 places closed. Place in Elyria lasted only a few weeks and busted. Last year North Olmsted had one closed neighbors complained. I totally agree. The police do have the time and they count on stupid people to make their job easier. Trust your eyes and your gut.
[QUOTE=SuStar;5942926][URL]https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/newly-arrivedbest-serviceasian/215530689686[/URL]
[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz/flexology-willowick[/URL][/QUOTE][QUOTE=TexasFox;6008315]The Florida bust was A set up. You people are paranoid as fuck. No one in law enforcement gives a shit if your being jacked off in a shop. Think about it. What could they even do if the police walked in. You're getting a massage. Thousands of people do everyday. If you are scanning the parking lot for cars you need a new hobby. I'm not even believing what I'm reading. Pull up. Go in. Pay your money and forget about it. I guess stupid is as stupid does. Like someone has time to stake out a shithole AMP.[/QUOTE]Hey, I maybe paranoid but I'm still going in lmao.
[QUOTE=EmptyCup;6012917]Glad someone else called bullshit on this. Dude tries shaming me for low tip on poor service. Then tells others just ignore what you see and your gut feeling. References a Florida situation as a setup when we live in NE Ohio and 2019 had 13 places closed. Place in Elyria lasted only a few weeks and busted. Last year North Olmsted had one closed neighbors complained. I totally agree. The police do have the time and they count on stupid people to make their job easier. Trust your eyes and your gut.[/QUOTE]Exactly! The Florida thing with Robert Kraft was indeed a set-up, but it worked, and he was certainly embarrassed. As for Ohio, we have a very committed and well funded commission to deal with human trafficking. We can argue the particulars all we want, but we shouldn't pretend that we're being safe in doing anything illegal in an AMP. These places are now really hot. I'm all for being paranoid at this time. LE is definitely interested in these places, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
[QUOTE=AthJun;6015761]Exactly! The Florida thing with Robert Kraft was indeed a set-up, but it worked, and he was certainly embarrassed. As for Ohio, we have a very committed and well funded commission to deal with human trafficking. We can argue the particulars all we want, but we shouldn't pretend that we're being safe in doing anything illegal in an AMP. These places are now really hot. I'm all for being paranoid at this time. LE is definitely interested in these places, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.[/QUOTE]I guess my point is. How is getting a hand job and massage any different from a haircut and shave. No Chinese shop will ever install a camera. No Chinese lady will ever go undercover. No guest ever gets arrested. Honestly I've never even considered being harassed by LE. Human trafficking is for the ladies. Not the men guests. Kraft was the fall guy as they were after the shop owner for other reasons. It just made better headlines. And Kraft doesn't give a fuck about the publicity. Neither would I. Massage is not a crime. Life is short. Fuck those wanting to make news about such a minimal situation. And not one lady who works is chained to the floor. So human trafficking is the biggest farce in AMP history.
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]How is getting a hand job and massage any different from a haircut and shave.[/QUOTE]A haircut or a massage are both activities licensed by the State of Ohio.
A "hand job" is a prohibited activity.
Ohio Revised Code section 503.42 (D) states as follows:
(D) No person employed in a massage establishment located in the unincorporated area of the township shall knowingly do any of the following in the performance of duties at the massage establishment:
(1) Place his or her hand upon, touch with any part of his or her body, fondle in any manner, or massage the sexual or genital area of any other person.
(2) Perform, offer, or agree to perform any act which would require the touching of the sexual or genital area of any other person.
(3) Touch, offer, or agree to touch the sexual or genital area of any other person with any mechanical or electrical apparatus or appliance.
(4) Wear unclean clothing, no clothing, transparent clothing, or clothing that otherwise reveals the sexual or genital areas of the masseur or masseuse.
(5) Uncover or allow the sexual or genital area of any other person to be uncovered while providing massages.
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]No Chinese shop will ever install a camera. No Chinese lady will ever go undercover. No guest ever gets arrested.[/QUOTE]Ohio Revised Code section 503.42 (C)(2) states as follows:
(C) No owner or operator of a massage establishment located in the unincorporated areas of the township shall knowingly do any of the following:
(2) Refuse to allow appropriate state or local authorities, including police officers, access to the massage establishment for any health or safety inspection conducted pursuant to a regulation adopted by the township under section 503.41 of the Revised Code.
Nothing prevents local authorities from installing a surreptitious surveillance camera inside an AMP during the aforementioned inspection.
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]Human trafficking is for the ladies. Not the men guests. Kraft was the fall guy as they were after the shop owner for other reasons.[/QUOTE]If Kraft was a fall guy, there's no reason to believe an ordinary bloke visiting an AMP in Ohio couldn't be one, too.
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]And Kraft doesn't give a fuck about the publicity.[/QUOTE]Kraft paid big fees for defense lawyers to beat the charges.
If he had been convicted, he could have been forced out of NFL ownership through the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy.
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]Massage is not a crime.[/QUOTE]Massage of certain body parts is a crime in Ohio.
See Ohio Revised Code section 503.42 (D) quoted earlier in this post.
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]And not one lady who works is chained to the floor.[/QUOTE]Coercion is not limited to getting chained to the floor.
[URL]https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/what-is-coercion-law.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=TexasFox;6015931]So human trafficking is the biggest farce in AMP history.[/QUOTE]Ignorance is bliss.
A large portion of hate and prejudice are born from willful ignorance.
[URL]https://www.state.gov/what-is-trafficking-in-persons/[/URL]
[URL]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/human-trafficking-statistics-by-state[/URL]
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/459637/number-of-victims-identified-related-to-labor-trafficking-worldwide/[/URL]
We don't need a state of the union address take all the political rants to another board. This site is to report about your experience's. I for one don't care if there's a car or van parked outside if there's a sting going on your going to be part of the bust. If your paranoid don't go in but in the same token I could care less to hear about it. Everyone's time comes around if your not careful if your afraid of being caught then get the HELL out of the game, there's no set rules on how this games played. It comes down to common sense. So if you can't pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heal maybe you shouldn't be in the game. RANT OVER!
[QUOTE=JustAverageJoe;6016636]We don't need a state of the union address take all the political rants to another board. This site is to report about your experience's. I for one don't care if there's a car or van parked outside if there's a sting going on your going to be part of the bust. If your paranoid don't go in but in the same token I could care less to hear about it. Everyone's time comes around if your not careful if your afraid of being caught then get the HELL out of the game, there's no set rules on how this games played. It comes down to common sense. So if you can't pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heal maybe you shouldn't be in the game. RANT OVER![/QUOTE]The legal environment in which the hobby is practiced is part of the game.
The more a hobbyist knows the law, the better he is prepared to play safely.
Participating in the hobby blindly is what gets most into trouble.
Discussion of the law as it relates to the hobby belongs on every board.
If you don't care for it, then don't read it.
[QUOTE=SuStar;6016685]The legal environment in which the hobby is practiced is part of the game.
The more a hobbyist knows the law, the better he is prepared to play safely.
Participating in the hobby blindly is what gets most into trouble.
Discussion of the law as it relates to the hobby belongs on every board.
If you don't care for it, then don't read it.[/QUOTE]I have no problem with the post but it should be posted in the legal and issues strategies section rather the massage parlor reports. I mean I'm not going to street walker reports to find out about strip clubs. Just keep it in the proper forum and then you won't have to worry about me reading it.