Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;6331628]I think Cass is not a 6 out of 10 in looks. She looked much better when I met her 3 years ago with no tattoos and only 1 kid. $100 was a good value for her back than imo. Hey for all of you other guys on SA who can get her for less money more power to you. Cass is not a Crack Addict. How about you prove your point and you find all of the guys on here that have paid her $50-$60. I do not know of any girls on SA that will take that less of money. If someone else besides Thelist00 who has paid her $50-$60 please make it be known. Someone else please prove me or TheList00 wrong.[/QUOTE]I've never met her at all. I was offered that and declined because of her nonstop texts and desperateness and 2nd if you truly think she's not a crack addict then you are simping for this chick because its obvious to anyone who ever talked to her, came in contact with her, hell she even admits it when she's dope sick hence her trying to blow for 50 bucks. Come on. Please don't question my integrity on here that I'm a liar. I simp for none of these woman. I'm just telling it like it is and if people can't handle the truth than that's on them.

Shannon is hot (10/10 on looks, but dead fish, sadly)! She's off the rails now though. Bouncing around from Putnam to Boylston (mom's place) to wherever. Idk what point you're making though. Sorry can't follow. I also met her deadlock friend. Hot in her own way and boy so freaky.

Bottom line is if you try to lowball, they will ghost you more often. You will lose money on gas and time spent. So there's no free lunch or magic pill or perfect solution, as they say. We all have to find our own and share our learnings here. Happy weekend all!

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;6331641]Are you telling me that Shannon from Boylston / Putnam who I have gotten for $100 raw dog and have shared with some others for the same price is a 9/10 in looks but unfortunately a dead fish is not easily a $200+ girl? If she was not a dead fish I would have enjoyed my time with her often.

Lets be fair here. Most of the girls I have found on SA and have an established relationship with I am not sharing and ruining what I have. Why the hell do you think I only sign on to SA once a year towards November / December. Most of the girls I pull on SA are single moms / girl next doors who in my opinion are non professionals I don't share on the forum because it ruins the good thing I have. Or had.

I have nothing to prove to anyone. The girls on SA I share are basically if I am done with them or if I do not have any sort of connection with.[/QUOTE]

If she's agreeing to $100 dates she's very likely an addict of something. If not crack, then what? Does it matter?

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;6331885]The fact that you have never met her and you talk so much $hit is ridiculous. Enough Said. I have met her dozens of times and she is not a crack head. To the people who have seen her is she a crack head?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;6331426]The quality of ladies you (and style) are getting for 100+ is nothing compared to what others are getting for 200+. So, you might want to think about it. You keep avoiding the point and you're not fooling anyone.[/QUOTE]What are you saying? Because I negotiate price with girls you ans others are paying $200 when I can pay her $100. Trust me bro, I rather fuck 2 hoes for $100 a day and get BBBJ. I've recommended alot of guys and so far they all never have issues. I'm young, I'm fucking and saving. I'm not about to blow $300 on a girl when all I want is really to fuck and leave. I don't want to chit chat or have a drink. I don't even want to be seeing in public with an escort like that.

So my $100 girls are fine to me.

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;6332129]If she's agreeing to $100 dates she's very likely an addict of something. If not crack, then what? Does it matter?[/QUOTE]Because she is not addicted to Crack. As far as I know she is not addicted to anything. She takes her medication for her issues. She smokes weed and does blow occasionally. Pamela is addicted to Crack. Taking a $100 referral is from me which I thought I would pay it forward. I can almost guarantee you that majority of the guys who met her on SA paid her alot more from the text messages she had shown me.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. You are correct that if you get the girls early while they are still amateurs and haven't figured out how to game the system, they will gladly see you for less. That's not because they're stupid and you're clever (or clean or polite, although that never hurts). It's because they haven't learned the market. I don't know about 100 or 150 but I've seen a lot of very hot girls for 200 for the last many years up until something happened after Covid that has made even 200 a very tough sell.

If you're willing accept more rejections, you can definitely lowball them and some newer girls will definitely bite. No argument there. The problem is, and I've raised this point with you before -- you can't tell me that you're lowballing and not facing a lot of rejections. Basically lowballing will definitely narrow the talent pool for you. And if you're ok with that then keep doing it. Lowballing will also result in more ghosting. 9 out of 10 times, as soon as they find a higher bidder they will ghost you. So, offering a higher amount (if you can afford it) protects against rejections and ghosting and broadens the talent pool available to you. I don't see how you can deny and of that.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;6332977]The point I am making is that you are claiming the quality of the girls I get are shit because of what I pay. The quality I get for what I pay I am very happy with. Obviously I am not sharing the girls I pay at that price point because than it screws up what I have. I only share what I am given the ok to share. Which is what I have done. The point is you were saying the quality of the girls I get are shit but you really have no clue. I was getting Pamela for $100 for 5 x times before she disappeared than she said she couldn't see me more at that price because of bills which is fine and was asking for $200 which I think you gladly paid before she started to ghost you. And you also are the one who told me that you told her she should go high end. But man it is insulting for you to think what I get is shit. All I have always said was being kind, having good hygiene and well groomed goes a long way.

I have only been ghosted twice and it was by the same girl who was referred to by 1 member who I never saw. It is what it is. I have been doing this 20+ years. I will continue to do what works for me and what I have been doing works for me. I do not bother any of you guys on this forum with girls who charge more than $150.

And regarding Cass on why she will accept $100? Well mainly because the guys I send her I vet for her and she trusts me. She is not a crack addict like thelist has claimed and has never seen. I think she has a case of being mildly bipolar and has depression. The guys that have not seen her thru me what have you paid her? Telling a girl about the forum is the biggest mistake.

And to be honest with you Style has hooked me up with a pretty hot UTR Latina in Providence before which I must have seen for over 10 x for $100 2 pops before she disappeared. Claiming that Style and I get bottom of the barrel girls you really have no clue WTF you are talking about.[/QUOTE]

Anything on this one? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d53081f1-89c5-4df0-ad7e-3e6be796c3ad[/URL].

Says Miami now but was Boston the other day.

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;6333001]I appreciate you taking the time to respond. You are correct that if you get the girls early while they are still amateurs and haven't figured out how to game the system, they will gladly see you for less. That's not because they're stupid and you're clever (or clean or polite, although that never hurts). It's because they haven't learned the market. I don't know about 100 or 150 but I've seen a lot of very hot girls for 200 for the last many years up until something happened after Covid that has made even 200 a very tough sell.

If you're willing accept more rejections, you can definitely lowball them and some newer girls will definitely bite. No argument there. The problem is, and I've raised this point with you before -- you can't tell me that you're lowballing and not facing a lot of rejections. Basically lowballing will definitely narrow the talent pool for you. And if you're ok with that then keep doing it. Lowballing will also result in more ghosting. 9 out of 10 times, as soon as they find a higher bidder they will ghost you. So, offering a higher amount (if you can afford it) protects against rejections and ghosting and broadens the talent pool available to you. I don't see how you can deny and of that.[/QUOTE]". get the girls early while they are still amateurs and haven't figured out how to game the system" LOL And then you go on to say "It's because they haven't learned the market. ". EXACTLY. It's the market. And for all of those who come on here pleading for all of the members here to not pay high prices, it cracks me up. The volume of guys on this board are not high enough to even sniff at budging this market. Even if every single guy on here firmly held their ground on pricing. Kudos to you 2 who have worked the system and have done the legwork to squeeze out value for yourselves.

I have been on this forum for as long as I can remember at least 15 years. Gianni V. And Styles 20 are strait shooters and have always been.

I believe every post either one has put up. They have been willing to share and never gave anyone bad info. It's time to show some respect.

To the people who treat this forum correctly. I have few recent posts due to my age I am not getting around like I used to. Best of luck to.

The guys that do.

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;6333001]I appreciate you taking the time to respond. You are correct that if you get the girls early while they are still amateurs and haven't figured out how to game the system, they will gladly see you for less. That's not because they're stupid and you're clever (or clean or polite, although that never hurts). It's because they haven't learned the market. I don't know about 100 or 150 but I've seen a lot of very hot girls for 200 for the last many years up until something happened after Covid that has made even 200 a very tough sell.

If you're willing accept more rejections, you can definitely lowball them and some newer girls will definitely bite. No argument there. The problem is, and I've raised this point with you before -- you can't tell me that you're lowballing and not facing a lot of rejections. Basically lowballing will definitely narrow the talent pool for you. And if you're ok with that then keep doing it. Lowballing will also result in more ghosting. 9 out of 10 times, as soon as they find a higher bidder they will ghost you. So, offering a higher amount (if you can afford it) protects against rejections and ghosting and broadens the talent pool available to you. I don't see how you can deny and of that.[/QUOTE]True you are correct on SA I did get a lot of rejections, maybe for every 30 girls that rejected me I got 1 hit. But I'm ok with that because I only spent a month working SA. Yes you are right in order for it to work I need to get them while they are new to SA which is normally what happens. But Shannon was not new to SA when I met her. You guys were paying her over $250 and yet when I told her about my drive and my time wasted she was ok with my $100.

Anyways I will argue that the market in the USA is ducked up because people here over pay. Why do you think in Europe and the rest of the world they get paid around $50-$180 depending on where you go. I blame this on the tipping culture in the USA which I think is completely wrong. Anyways no need to argue with you over this. You keep doing you and will keep on doing what I am doing as what we do works for ourselves.

With that being said anyone interested in seeing Cass for $100 today in Braintree? If so hit me up.

[QUOTE=Style20;6332919]What are you saying? Because I negotiate price with girls you ans others are paying $200 when I can pay her $100. Trust me bro, I rather fuck 2 hoes for $100 a day and get BBBJ. I've recommended alot of guys and so far they all never have issues. I'm young, I'm fucking and saving. I'm not about to blow $300 on a girl when all I want is really to fuck and leave. I don't want to chit chat or have a drink. I don't even want to be seeing in public with an escort like that.

So my $100 girls are fine to me.[/QUOTE]You and I are the same boat. This is exactly how I think. I would rather fuck a girl 3 different times than fuck a girl 1 time for the same money. I think Mia who you introduced me to in Providence was a dime piece and a bargain for my $100 2 pops the 8 or so times I saw her.

[QUOTE=Jeremy66;6333025]Anything on this one? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d53081f1-89c5-4df0-ad7e-3e6be796c3ad[/URL].

Says Miami now but was Boston the other day.[/QUOTE]When location changes like that it's usually a sure indication of a scammer. Other possibility is a traveling pro but the 'no married men' statement on her profile would rule that out; a pro doesn't care married or not. You can check her location over the next week or two and see if it changes again. If it does then you have your answer.

[QUOTE=PeterBoris;6333346]I have been on this forum for as long as I can remember at least 15 years. Gianni V. And Styles 20 are strait shooters and have always been.

I believe every post either one has put up. They have been willing to share and never gave anyone bad info. It's time to show some respect.

To the people who treat this forum correctly. I have few recent posts due to my age I am not getting around like I used to. Best of luck to.

The guys that do.[/QUOTE]I'd like to second that in regards to both Gianni And Styles. I saw Gianni's texts. Few days later I tried to emulate something similar with the same woman. He easily got her down to $150 and she sounded pretty happy in their text exchange too, while stringently dropping her $300 to $250 for me, despite telling me that I was smart and funny and that I made her day and that she really wanted to see me and so on and so fourth. I saw him do it with (or "to" LOL) at least 3 women.

I don't know Style as long as I know Gianni but Style is an expert in this search for pussy thing, no doubt. He also gets ladies that would probably charge me some good markup for<epsilon bro, I'm embarrassed to say how low LOL I witnessed him weed out the believable-looking spam time waster with just few texts. He largely mongers in different geographical area than the one that I'd prefer but make no mistake about it. If you get a lead from the Styles it's real lead, it's current lead, and you'd get to save some money too as opposed to getting your leads from somebody else. There are plenty of people on this forum who'd either provide you with the dead lead, or the lead they don't want anymore, or the lead that won't see them anymore (and thus you can't reference them and that turns it into a dead lead by default), or hard to deal with lead, and on and on. That's why right from the start you'd look skeptically at everything that they send you way.

Naturally both Style and Gianni are becoming quite weary with sharing their leads with those who they suspect may introduce ladies that they see for cheap to "the real market". I can't say I blame them. You know, they put in some and effort into this and then comes some 'straight shooter' or 'the real man' or someone a who's trying to make sure that 'the poor girl doesn't get taken advantage of' and ruins it for them. Would you share with such an upstanding citizen if you would be them? Right.

Lately I myself have been focusing more on agencies and am discovering that they too could be quite a mixed bag. I'm discovering that the more you see them the less they do LOL. Especially if you're a nice respectful type so they can relax, and have a nice convo and really forget what you're really there for. LOL.

When I get back in touch with either Gianni or Style about what's around I usually try my best not to undercut their rates, especially if they extend themselves to me as reference. I do have an issue sometimes with me wanting to spend more time with the girl that they themselves used to spending. Also Gianni usually negotiates for himself this #-of-pops-related rate that just wouldn't be applicable to few of us over certain age LOL but then I just discuss it with them and ask them what do they think I should throw at her. Those two are cool people. It never amounts to any big deal.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;6333434]You and I are the same boat. This is exactly how I think. I would rather fuck a girl 3 different times than fuck a girl 1 time for the same money. I think Mia who you introduced me to in Providence was a dime piece and a bargain for my $100 2 pops the 8 or so times I saw her.[/QUOTE]Same here with me, I use to have one on the regular for about 3 years, She was a MILF. Built for comfort not speed, And we alway's enjoyed each others company. I was donating 150.00 for each visit with barely any time limit. We would fuck and suck each other for at least a good hour or more. Sadly she moved away during Covid, And I have yet to find someone like her. If I have to pay 200-300 well she better be damn well worth it, And I don't mean no crack hoes or druggies. Them fucking broads just might throw a seven while I'm banging them. Keep up the good work gents and Kudos to both of you.

[QUOTE=PeterBoris;6333346]I have been on this forum for as long as I can remember at least 15 years. Gianni V. And Styles 20 are strait shooters and have always been.

I believe every post either one has put up. They have been willing to share and never gave anyone bad info. It's time to show some respect.

To the people who treat this forum correctly. I have few recent posts due to my age I am not getting around like I used to. Best of luck to.

The guys that do.[/QUOTE]My only question is how Style 20 has the energy and time to do all this. The research and info is top notch.