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[QUOTE=RonPamet;5717317]Question for the SA veterans:
I am seeing a fair bit of female Premium members on SA. It seems rather odd that a young lady would lay that much money down to have a premiere membership every month.
Pro? Really serious about landing a guy with money? Theories are fine, but maybe someone here has experience with these types?[/QUOTE]I think premium is free for college coeds. They probably have to use their. Edu email to sign up, so not all of them do it.
I have an account on these sites, I believe they are essentially interchangeable. I have a few messages and I recognize some girls on there from SA. I wanted to try it out for a month, the cost is way less than SA. A minimum of $30, with enhancements for more dough. I haven't had success using my standard OneVanilla prepaid debit card to pay for a membership there, and the CS at the site hasn't been helpful. I wonder if any of you stalwarts have had any success in discreetly paying for a membership on there.
[QUOTE=RonPamet;5717317]Question for the SA veterans:
I am seeing a fair bit of female Premium members on SA. It seems rather odd that a young lady would lay that much money down to have a premiere membership every month.
Pro? Really serious about landing a guy with money? Theories are fine, but maybe someone here has experience with these types?[/QUOTE]The girls get if for free I believe if they use a college email address. I agree, there are few who would pay for the privilege of being spammed by horndog mongers.
So this one seems interesting. Has anyone had the pleasure of knowing her?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/252e85b5-42f7-42dc-81f7-1cb9da7535f3[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5721162]So this one seems interesting. Has anyone had the pleasure of knowing her?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/252e85b5-42f7-42dc-81f7-1cb9da7535f3[/URL][/QUOTE]I have been chatting with her. Not sure she is real.
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5721177]I have been chatting with her. Not sure she is real.[/QUOTE]What are the odds of an established MD being on seeking?
Maybe a med student or someone early in their career trying to pay off debt, but between that, the generated username and limited profile I'd say move on.
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5721177]I have been chatting with her. Not sure she is real.[/QUOTE]Yeah this one seems odd. I am not a member but was almost getting the urge to chat with this one. However, like someone else already mentioned, what are odds that an MD would be on this site. I did give her access to my photos and saw she replied back twice. Seems fishy. What makes you think she isn't real?
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5721600]Yeah this one seems odd. I am not a member but was almost getting the urge to chat with this one. However, like someone else already mentioned, what are odds that an MD would be on this site. I did give her access to my photos and saw she replied back twice. Seems fishy. What makes you think she isn't real?[/QUOTE]No opinion about that specific one, but I have had experience w / one person who did appear to be a real doc. She was eastern European, got her training there, moved to the US on a visa lottery, wanted to practice, but of course had zero credentials. Needed a residency, had to pass intense boards to qualify for those. So she was cooling her heels while she studied like hell. She also was tall and gorgeous, one downside, fake boobs, and her service wasn't ideal. A little too escort-why, but still, I believed from technical conversations with her (as I am in the biomedical research field) that she wasn't bullshitting about being a doc. I saw her a couple of times for reasonable sugar, she was driving a Mercedes. Haven't seen her on the site for a long time, someone like this who isn't a 'pro' sugar baby, I tend to believe their sugar stories more.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5718341]The girls get if for free I believe if they use a college email address. I agree, there are few who would pay for the privilege of being spammed by horndog mongers.[/QUOTE]True, the girls can pay to be bumped to the top of the listings. Aside from them it is all free to them. Flip side, SA has their personal details for life.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5712462]Better operational security. IF you don't know that you are air-tight, you are vulnerable, both to the SB and to anyone else involved (a SO).
I had a short arrangement w / a woman whose hubby was definitely a spook. Ex-military, went 'overseas' for trips periodically, couldn't tell her where, was out of contact. I worried about that one. He could have gotten the NSA to figure out what I was doing and who I was. Otherwise, standard precautions should be fine.[/QUOTE]Did you have any issues? I'm sure this happens quite a bit in the DC area.
I believe a few years ago I was trolling the DC market on SA and there was a very attractive woman in her late 20's and you could clearly see her husband was an officer of some type in the military but he was cropped out of the pic.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;5722038]Did you have any issues? I'm sure this happens quite a bit in the DC area.
I believe a few years ago I was trolling the DC market on SA and there was a very attractive woman in her late 20's and you could clearly see her husband was an officer of some type in the military but he was cropped out of the pic.[/QUOTE]I didn't, but I could tell she was pretty nervous about it. In fact, I turned the tables on her. She drove her Boxster to one FC, I got the plate, and used a site where you pay $40 to get the registration (while attesting that it isn't for nefarious purposes). I learned she was from a prominent family in the San Diego area, generations involved w / a very famous hotel there, newspaper articles about all of them, etc. If I ever got in a tight spot, I had all sorts of material to push back with. I stopped seeing her not for any of those reasons, but b / c my SO found some 'evidence' that required me to enter into a repair cycle.
Just liked this pic (yoga instructor).
2 FA (two-factor authentication) is now gone from [URL]seeking.com[/URL], at least for me.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5725113]2 FA (two-factor authentication) is now gone from [URL]seeking.com[/URL], at least for me.[/QUOTE]Same for me, what a pain in the ass that was!
So this one was reviewed in the post I mentioned. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/653416b5-b2d7-48ab-b999-a6f9d400409b[/URL].
And has since added this to her profile" "Since it has been brought to my attention that men are reviewing us ladies on another website, I will be locking my photos to completely private. ".
Why in the world would anyone tell any of them about this site? Or may she got lucky by Googling her screen name. Highly doubt that though.
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5726827]So this one was reviewed in the post I mentioned. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/653416b5-b2d7-48ab-b999-a6f9d400409b[/URL].
And has since added this to her profile" "Since it has been brought to my attention that men are reviewing us ladies on another website, I will be locking my photos to completely private. ".
Why in the world would anyone tell any of them about this site? Or may she got lucky by Googling her screen name. Highly doubt that though.[/QUOTE]Some white knight may have mentioned it, but seriously, this board is crawled by google nearly constantly. I can search on a girl's name or handle from google and this site will likely show up in the results. They may find it that way. I'm sure the girls read and share info on some board like this one.
I have been seeing a SB for a few years now that is open to and has done a few MFM, she went by Little Red Foxx on SA but her profile is down. Goes by Jennifer are, and was reviewed on this site, but I can't find any reviews. She is aware that this site exist and her number is past around, and doesn't mind, and that a few of her MFM were coordinated here. Was wondering who those gentlemen were and if we could link up, since she also has wanted to have a train ran on her.
Anyone have recent dreams with her? Wondering how things are these days. ?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/19a05ba8-fda5-46ea-b40e-b8931be6c0e1[/URL]
[QUOTE=BlueDrive;5729618]Anyone have recent dreams with her? Wondering how things are these days. ?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/19a05ba8-fda5-46ea-b40e-b8931be6c0e1[/URL][/QUOTE]She hasn't been active since last June. I had a M&G back then and passed. Search for post #20243 for details.
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5726827]So this one was reviewed in the post I mentioned. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/653416b5-b2d7-48ab-b999-a6f9d400409b[/URL].
And has since added this to her profile" "Since it has been brought to my attention that men are reviewing us ladies on another website, I will be locking my photos to completely private. ".
Why in the world would anyone tell any of them about this site? Or may she got lucky by Googling her screen name. Highly doubt that though.[/QUOTE]The majority of the SBs definitely know about this forum. They have a forum of their own where they worn the other girls about scammers and fuck-and-dumpers. They know the allowances that you've paid other girls and they know if you're someone who cancels last minute, all before you even have a conversation with them. I got in big trouble reviewing a girl on here a couple of years ago. When I started constantly getting blocked immediately without any conversation, I realized that I had a bad reputation and had to change everything on my profile. An SB finally told me she saw me on the forum. They communicate on Redditt also.
[QUOTE=SDDude1;5730072]The majority of the SBs definitely know about this forum. They have a forum of their own where they worn the other girls about scammers and fuck-and-dumpers. They know the allowances that you've paid other girls and they know if you're someone who cancels last minute, all before you even have a conversation with them. I got in big trouble reviewing a girl on here a couple of years ago. When I started constantly getting blocked immediately without any conversation, I realized that I had a bad reputation and had to change everything on my profile. An SB finally told me she saw me on the forum. They communicate on Redditt also.[/QUOTE]Do you have the links for SB discussion?
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5730180]Do you have the links for SB discussion?[/QUOTE]No, LOL. Because it's an urban legend.
A lot of these girls know each other, same sorority / friend group, roommates, etc. That's how they share information.
That being said, I've had a couple roommates independent of each other as well as multiple girls at the same VCU sororities who had know clue I was creampieing my way through their peers. They are a LOT less organized than some members of this forum want to believe.
Sure there is the reddit, and some individual chats between friends. But there is not the SB equivalent of USSG or a Blacklist.
I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.
Wow!
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5730759]I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.
Wow![/QUOTE]It just means they will take money from anyone.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5730197]No, LOL. Because it's an urban legend.
A lot of these girls know each other, same sorority / friend group, roommates, etc. That's how they share information.
That being said, I've had a couple roommates independent of each other as well as multiple girls at the same VCU sororities who had know clue I was creampieing my way through their peers. They are a LOT less organized than some members of this forum want to believe.
Sure there is the reddit, and some individual chats between friends. But there is not the SB equivalent of USSG or a Blacklist.[/QUOTE]I've yet to see anything like this on the SB, escort, or other sex worker side of things. Though there are certainly some on the forum. Keep in mind, though, that there ARE blacklisting and screening sites out there, some of which are largely free of charge to women and specifically set up to try and provide some degree of protection for escorts and other sex workers. Whether they're used by the ladies we're talking to is another question entirely. But it's safe to say that each of us DOES build up a reputation. And word *will* get around. Always best to behave ourselves. On both sides of the equation.
It's a Gen-Z thing. Most of these girls are bisexual, because it's the in thing for them to do. Most of us are Boomers and Gen-X, wouldn't get it. I only noticed this because I started asking my SBs if they swing both ways. 3 out of my current 5 SBs swing both ways. 2 of my SBs aren't seeing be regularly, because they are in a lesbian relationship. One positive is that settings up 3 somes has become a lot easier then I thought. Just a word of advice always have your SB pick out the 2nd girl for the 3 some. You will enjoy it more if, the girls are comfortable with each other.
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5730759]I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.
Wow![/QUOTE]
I had my first FC w / a mature, but super hot, single mom today. Petite, slim hot body, tiny little ass. She's related that she was formerly in an abusive relationship in NoCal, she left it and moved to SoCal for a new start in life. So, I knew that she wasn't accustomed to being treated kindly by a man. She also says she's sub and likes to be spanked. Calling Dr. Freud please.
My one consideration of her situation led me to bring a bouquet of flowers to the FC. Daisies. I got it at Walmart for $5 at the same time I purchased a ping pong paddle for her spanking. She immediately reacted very positively to my doing that, and at the end as we were doing a post-mortem, mentioned a couple of times how much it meant to her that I brought her flowers. A significant number of women (in the world, not just the bowl) have had zero experience of being treated nicely by men. You can really tap into their need for this with almost no effort or cost. The deal I have w / her was a bigger allowance for the first meet, and then a reasonable amount for me after. She's enthusiastic about our next FC though she will practically get 40% less. It never hurts to be kind to people. The sex w / this gal was smoking hot good, too, so I am all for it.
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5730759]I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.
Wow![/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.
[QUOTE=Roadie1;5731275]It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.[/QUOTE]An overly simplistic analysis, as any full read of these threads will show.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5731066] A significant number of women (in the world, not just the bowl) have had zero experience of being treated nicely by men. You can really tap into their need for this with almost no effort or cost. [/QUOTE]Tapping into the shortcomings of men under 35 and their inability to treat a woman decently / have a real relationship has been pure gold. They don't know how to have a converation. They would rather look at their screens than into her eyes or even sneak a peek down her blouse. They are scared to act like men -- lets face it, seeking attracts subs -- for fear of being labeled a misogynist, and women are seen as betrayers of their gender if they rely on a man to make ends meet or ask him to toss her around.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5731066] It never hurts to be kind to people. The sex w / this gal was smoking hot good, too, so I am all for it.[/QUOTE]Another way to stand out by negative comparison. I'm staggered at the number of complete idiots who can't form complete sentence when messaging an SB, start off by asking for pics, dive straight into their kinks, treat them like streetwalkers out of the gate and have no ability -- or interest. In shooting these fish in a barrel with their fins spread wide.
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5715335]Finally this one worked Vanilla did not work.[/QUOTE]We would all appreciate step-by-step specifics. There is intel afoot that the old reliable OneVanilla prepaid debit has stopped working.
[QUOTE=Roadie1;5731275]It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.[/QUOTE]I could not disagree more. I've been VERY successful finding young (20-25) women with "men / women" in their profile to meet me and my 31 yr old bi fwb. These girls truly are bi and have experience with both men and women and love it all. Several of them have slept with my SB without me being there, too. Obviously no allowance for that; they are doing it for the sex.
I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.
[QUOTE=EasyBake;5732886]I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.[/QUOTE]Whoa, this is tough. IDK any way to get around this easily. This is why I advise to NEVER do anything that is going to get the pin-heads at SA to look at your profile. They are very capricious in what they think is and isn't correct. What has flown for literally years may suddenly attract their attention. If you get banned, there is really nothing that you can do to get back on, other than start from scratch w / a completely new sugar identity. That can involve either a new device or spoofing software to change your MAC address, new emails, different photos, everything. A super pain.
BTW, I have typically had two profiles on SA, one active and one dormant, to permit me to check up to see if I might have been blocked by a girl, for example. Anyway, at one point I got a similar request for verification of my identity from SA. Allegedly because I needed to verify my identity, that perhaps my photos were fake. There's simply no way I am going to give them my correct information, so I have had to just abandon that profile.
This is why I never report anyone on the site, no matter how deserving their behaviour might be. I never change my profile. Not photos. Not a word of text. Not the tag line or user name. Any of these things can get the mods there looking at your profile. They do that, and they decide you need to up the disclosure to their standards, you'll be in the same boat. I've thought that well-seasoned profiles would be immune to this sort of thing, I guess I would say that is not completely so. Having a good track record of being on the site and not causing any problem is likely helpful, but it cannot save you from these sorts of requests.
[QUOTE=EasyBake;5732886]I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.[/QUOTE]I got this once when I used. Fake pic, but then showed the SB a real photo of me in app. When she blocked me, she reported me, so SA asked me to prove I was the person in my profile pic by providing govt I'd.
So you need government I'd to bang women.
[QUOTE=EasyBake;5732886]I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.[/QUOTE]Was your account a paid account -- or one just sitting there in between use?
[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5733684]Was your account a paid account -- or one just sitting there in between use?[/QUOTE]It was a paid account. I just got back on there after a 3 mo break and had 3 girls planning to meet. They probably think I was scamming them now. If I put up a new profile and try to contact them again, they're going to think something's fishy.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5733130]I got this once when I used. Fake pic, but then showed the SB a real photo of me in app. When she blocked me, she reported me, so SA asked me to prove I was the person in my profile pic by providing govt I'd.
So you need government I'd to bang women.[/QUOTE]So, did you? Provide ID I mean or just let it go and create another profile?
[QUOTE=EasyBake;5733705]If I put up a new profile and try to contact them again, they're going to think something's fishy.[/QUOTE]Yes, they wouldn't budge. If I sent in my ID -- which I'd never do -- they would ban me for using the fake photo in the first place.
Best thing to do is clear your cookies, use another browser type, get a new email address and get a prepaid card and make sure you know how to use it and start with a new profile and new everything. Including profile photo. Otherwise, anything that matches a banned account will get you banned.
I'm having a hell of a time getting a Premiere membership on SA. I tried my regular debit card. Immediately got suspended. I emailed support & they quickly lifted the suspension and told me I had to call in to run it over the phone. They said billing was open weekdays 9 am - 4 pm Pacific time. They also said I could try another card. I tried a second card, and same result: immediate suspension.
I tried calling billing several times on Monday (a Federal holiday, BTW) and got an answering machine saying their hours were 10 - 4. I tried again today and got another answering machine. Fuck me. I left a message, and also emailed support again to see what they can do. Meanwhile I have 14 messages I can't even read.
Anyone else have issues like this? I'm really not impressed.