"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Johnny5;5694784]So did I. For a long time, it was only letting me renew to an upgrade or a 90-day subscription. Then I paused my subscription renewal, and after that a gray button appeared at the top allowing me to enter another card and renew at the regular rate. Not sure if that's the trick or if there's some other reason why it happened that way.[/QUOTE]Strange, but it looks like what I seen on Christmas must have been a glitch. I was able to re-up yesterday. For some reason magically, when I went back to upgrade, there was the $100 option.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5695288]Were you using Vanilla gift card to renew? I used Vanilla gift card for years but not working this month. It weirds.[/QUOTE]Not to be nit picky or anything, just detailed. I believe there is a Vanilla card AND a OneVanilla card. The later is the one I used to re-up. As the warning on SA states not all gift cards will work with their system, so I think one's got to use the OneVanilla one. Sometimes the funds aren't immediately available and one needs to wait 24-hrs before using the card.

Look down the thread, I posted a long 'how to' on signing up / paying for SA.

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[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5696728]Not to be nit picky or anything, just detailed. I believe there is a Vanilla card AND a OneVanilla card. The later is the one I used to re-up. As the warning on SA states not all gift cards will work with their system, so I think one's got to use the OneVanilla one. Sometimes the funds aren't immediately available and one needs to wait 24-hrs before using the card.

Look down the thread, I posted a long 'how to' on signing up / paying for SA.

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[url]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=5683245&viewfull=1#post5683245[/url][/QUOTE]It should be the post 20850. Please note that last year I bought One Vanilla by mistake one time and it did not work for me. I usually used Vanilla Visa giftcard and it worked perfectly until this month. I have been tried 2 different Vanilla $100 Visa giftcards with verified available fund but neither of them work. SA did not accept any of the two cards.

Another Scammer, was quick to text, quick to accept gift and then wanted to know how I pay. Cash isn't good, only Cashapp or Venmo.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ca77a72-b728-4cdb-9bc5-e5644cd0b1fa[/URL]

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5697135]It should be the post 20850. Please note that last year I bought One Vanilla by mistake one time and it did not work for me. I usually used Vanilla Visa giftcard and it worked perfectly until this month. I have been tried 2 different Vanilla $100 Visa giftcards with verified available fund but neither of them work. SA did not accept any of the two cards.[/QUOTE]I've always used OneVanilla without any issue. Could you perhaps have reversed the names of which card works and which one doesn't?

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5698432]Another Scammer, was quick to text, quick to accept gift and then wanted to know how I pay. Cash isn't good, only Cashapp or Venmo.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ca77a72-b728-4cdb-9bc5-e5644cd0b1fa[/URL][/QUOTE]Never send them a gift. I might bring them something I'm going to enjoy like a toy, lingerie or cosplay outfit (Catholic school girl is my fav! But it will be a cold day in hell I ever buy a gift of of SA.

That greedy MoFo marks that shit way up & makes bank on suckers that actually pay for that crap.

It.

I really would like to see him get some competition from another legit Sugar site. I heard he also owns Seeking Benefits, that's nothing but a huge rip off IMHO.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5697135]It should be the post 20850. Please note that last year I bought One Vanilla by mistake one time and it did not work for me. I usually used Vanilla Visa giftcard and it worked perfectly until this month. I have been tried 2 different Vanilla $100 Visa giftcards with verified available fund but neither of them work. SA did not accept any of the two cards.[/QUOTE]Thanks for correcting my fumble fingers on the post number! Good catch! My bad.

All I can report is that around T-Day I re-upped and again, re-upped, after Christmas using the OneVanilla Card. Only problem I had was trying to use the card "too soon" and getting rejected by SA. But next day it went through fine.

Other thing I have seen is: try to pay and IF that fails, email Tech Support. They aren't fast getting back to you, but eventually they do and perhaps can help get you paid up? Incentive is certainly there to collect the money before helping some dude who can't figure out his profile.

Not sure if it is "required" or even a step, but I did sign on to the OneVanilla website, entered the card details and checked the balance as a way to kind of "activate" the card before trying to use it. Probably a useless step, but just reporting what I did.

Hope that helps! Good luck!

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5698470]Never send them a gift. I might bring them something I'm going to enjoy like a toy, lingerie or cosplay outfit (Catholic school girl is my fav! But it will be a cold day in hell I ever buy a gift of of SA.

That greedy MoFo marks that shit way up & makes bank on suckers that actually pay for that crap.

It.

I really would like to see him get some competition from another legit Sugar site. I heard he also owns Seeking Benefits, that's nothing but a huge rip off IMHO.[/QUOTE]When I said quick to accept gift, I meant gift amount I offered. I never send anything or buy gifts there, If I buy gift its given when we meet.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5699486]When I said quick to accept gift, I meant gift amount I offered. I never send anything or buy gifts there, If I buy gift its given when we meet.[/QUOTE]Oh, she accepted your offer for an allowance. Glad she didn't hose you for any $.

Thanks for outing the scammer!

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5667845]She offered to drive an hour to see me -- at $300 -- so she need some $. Hopefully she won't be under the influence while driving![/QUOTE]Did she make the drive to see you? If so, how was she? She's reaching out to me here in RVA. Was hoping to see a more recent review before setting something up with her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2f38734b-d8f9-45e1-b070-15fe10d4a517[/URL] - not active often, one or two line replies. Private pics not that spectacular.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf351b56-1106-45bb-818a-fe85ea0df1cd[/URL] - that ass couldn't possibly be real! Says she is recently single, but doesn't engage much.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1fa2c5f2-5dff-4ad0-8475-5851d3526c0d-[/URL] one of the nicer halfs of a face on the site, but can't get a reply let alone see the other half!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2d90aa0-22c4-4821-b9ee-e3ef2a48db2b[/URL] -- looks like fun, but convo has been one sided since first day. Active often.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b4146905-1571-4bd4-aceb-eecf2c7920c6[/URL] -- active often, engages randomly but has great potential from what little I've gleaned.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/974d7e3b-7c49-4b5f-8182-fc074edf25fb[/URL] - extensive messaging, self proclaimed freak, but not desparate or looking to get naked until "a deep connection is established".

Lame is an understatement.

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;5611107]"Free to view" and the he upcharges you to watch the actual videos. Lame.[/QUOTE]

There is a sucker born every minute.

If you fell for this price increase tactic and signed up, my guess is you also believe in paying more then MSRP due to the chip shortage.

Watch your emails, there is a discount offer coming from SA in the next few weeks.

Jan-March is the slowest business cycle. Lots of discounts to be had.

[QUOTE=DoneThatOnce;5681261]Got an email this morning from Seeking encouraging me to renew before January 4th as their price is going up. I haven't had a membership on there since May. Never plan on signing up again with all the fakes, GPS and scammers on there. Still seeing 3 babies from time to time from past contacts so screw you Seeking and your price increases.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HaneDales;5707082]Lame is an understatement.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the girls are some real dogs. I wouldn't screw them for free.

Here is a good, wants 500 for just touching and maybe more after the first visit. Let me know if its worth that for touching. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/63e94249-f59c-4acc-ab76-2a9276a6f830[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5698815]Thanks for correcting my fumble fingers on the post number! Good catch! My bad.

All I can report is that around T-Day I re-upped and again, re-upped, after Christmas using the OneVanilla Card. Only problem I had was trying to use the card "too soon" and getting rejected by SA. But next day it went through fine.

Other thing I have seen is: try to pay and IF that fails, email Tech Support. They aren't fast getting back to you, but eventually they do and perhaps can help get you paid up? Incentive is certainly there to collect the money before helping some dude who can't figure out his profile.

Not sure if it is "required" or even a step, but I did sign on to the OneVanilla website, entered the card details and checked the balance as a way to kind of "activate" the card before trying to use it. Probably a useless step, but just reporting what I did.

Hope that helps! Good luck![/QUOTE]I tried to pay for a one month subscription and it was rejected I tried 4 times and my account was suspended I emailed them to tell them that the reason for the suspension was that my 4 attempts raised a red flag and it was not anything I said on any messages to a womans profile page They answered me and said ok to use a different card and to renew my subscription.

I thought I was up the creek as I had a good profile set up and a lot of contacts.

Please advise your thoughts on One Vanilla and Vanilla gift cards I have to renew sometime this week.

Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5710799]I tried to pay for a one month subscription and it was rejected I tried 4 times and my account was suspended I emailed them to tell them that the reason for the suspension was that my 4 attempts raised a red flag and it was not anything I said on any messages to a womans profile page They answered me and said ok to use a different card and to renew my subscription.

I thought I was up the creek as I had a good profile set up and a lot of contacts.

Please advise your thoughts on One Vanilla and Vanilla gift cards I have to renew sometime this week.

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I don't have all of the answers, but if SA helpdesk suggested a different card I'd go that direction. WHAT CARD WERE YOU USING?

Also were you actually "banned" from the site or your access just cut off for non-payment?

As a general note, IF I were to have problems "paying" I would send the helpdesk a note asking for assistance. It is in their best interest to "collect the money" and help you pay.

Not sure what else to add. Others state they have used "Vanilla" cards in the past. I can't confirm or refute that from my experience. I have only used a [b]OneVanilla[/b] card and had success each time. From what I read on this thread, the "best" gift card is the [b]OneVanilla[/b] card. YMMV.

[color=grey][i]Oh and for any lurkers...here is what the [b]OneVanilla[/b] card looks like on the rack & up close. See pics[/i][/color]

Good luck! Hope you get back on site! Happy Hunting!

Great smile, just worried that the red dress hides a fair amount - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/80f4a078-803a-401f-88d4-e13bc651dd74[/URL] not very responsive.

She was on at VT, but during covid. Had (has?) BF. But sorry, athletic is a stretch - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/765ecb9e-40fa-4585-8fdb-ce519eced32c[/URL].

Pretty new MILF. Not responsive -- [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75510f79-af9b-4767-9523-f353fcbd255a[/URL].

Not sure SLIM is right, but pretty face, so worth a follow up - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3d34dd23-e211-4a43-a2ff-f9e3f0a5add1[/URL].

I am a bit leary about contacting married women. I don't want some irate husband tracking me down. Any suggestions or recommendations??

Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5712375]I am a bit leary about contacting married women. I don't want some irate husband tracking me down. Any suggestions or recommendations??

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]Better operational security. IF you don't know that you are air-tight, you are vulnerable, both to the SB and to anyone else involved (a SO).

I had a short arrangement w / a woman whose hubby was definitely a spook. Ex-military, went 'overseas' for trips periodically, couldn't tell her where, was out of contact. I worried about that one. He could have gotten the NSA to figure out what I was doing and who I was. Otherwise, standard precautions should be fine.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5712375]I am a bit leary about contacting married women. I don't want some irate husband tracking me down. Any suggestions or recommendations??

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I guess I'd say use the marital status filter to remove married women from your search results. Most SB website search tools have such filters and maybe restrict your searches to those sites that do.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5712375]I am a bit leary about contacting married women. I don't want some irate husband tracking me down. Any suggestions or recommendations??

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I get it and always ask the married but separated ones how much he is in the picture. You have to take precautions and most of the women want that also. They don't want drama anymore than we do. I feel the juice is worth the squeeze though. The middle aged married MILFs can ride you as good or better than many of the 20 somethings! LOL.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5711873]Great smile, just worried that the red dress hides a fair amount - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/80f4a078-803a-401f-88d4-e13bc651dd74[/URL] not very responsive.

Pretty new MILF. Not responsive -- [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75510f79-af9b-4767-9523-f353fcbd255a[/URL].[/QUOTE]Red dress told me nothing physical fwiw.

MILF wouldn't talk to me after saying I was too far (an hour from Rva).

Has anyone had a case of a profile and message of a pot completely disappear? I can't find her profile anymore and our messages are just gone (not blocked), I even checked on a second account. It's like the profile never existed.

The only way I can think of that happening is if I accidentally deleted the message AND she set her profile to hidden or changed location.

[QUOTE=Btt123;5713075]Has anyone had a case of a profile and message of a pot completely disappear? I can't find her profile anymore and our messages are just gone (not blocked), I even checked on a second account. It's like the profile never existed.

The only way I can think of that happening is if I accidentally deleted the message AND she set her profile to hidden or changed location.[/QUOTE]I have had it happen to me too. Don't know what happened.

I have seen that before. My theory is that either someone reported them as under-age or the site independently concluded they were underage. That triggers what I call the nuclear reaction. They delete the profile, any messages and any other evidence that the person was ever on the site.

BAM.

[QUOTE=Btt123;5713075]Has anyone had a case of a profile and message of a pot completely disappear? I can't find her profile anymore and our messages are just gone (not blocked), I even checked on a second account. It's like the profile never existed.

The only way I can think of that happening is if I accidentally deleted the message AND she set her profile to hidden or changed location.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Btt123;5713075]Has anyone had a case of a profile and message of a pot completely disappear? I can't find her profile anymore and our messages are just gone (not blocked), I even checked on a second account. It's like the profile never existed.

The only way I can think of that happening is if I accidentally deleted the message AND she set her profile to hidden or changed location.[/QUOTE]I've had it happen also. They can delete the messages on their end, before removing their profile, which also zaps them from our inbox. I've had it happen when their profile is still active. For whatever reason she just didn't want the conversations logged any longer. You can start messaging again to get a new thread started.

Or can I use American Express Prepaid card?

Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=Btt123;5713030]Red dress told me nothing physical fwiw.

MILF wouldn't talk to me after saying I was too far (an hour from Rva).[/QUOTE]Red dress also wants 250 just to meet LOL.

Finally this one worked Vanilla did not work.

[QUOTE=VAvet;5714779]Red dress also wants 250 just to meet LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, same story to me. Said she wants to take things slow and really build a nice connection, but then next question from her was "how much compensation for me time meeting?" Don't waste your time.

[QUOTE=Jwlgn309;5689781][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f3056826-2fb0-49f1-b3b4-74251a8e45cb[/URL]

Met her recently, photos are accurate. She's tiny (maybe 100 lbs. At most), good body, age-appropriate figure, can hold a good conversation. CFS, BBBJ, pretty game for anything, attentive and patient, a real sweetheart all around. Would repeat for sure. If you're looking for an older woman (40+), she's the one. Please treat her well![/QUOTE]Any information on donation?

Got to be a fake. Who the hell lists Creighton VA as their location [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35310b62-9fea-48f2-8eab-698bc54561f1[/URL].

Especially someone this hot. Have not reached out to her. If anyone has and knows she is real let me know. I'll gladly eat crow for making an assumption LOL.

[QUOTE=NavenRJohnson;5716720]Any information on donation?[/QUOTE]Last time I saw her it 300 and she told me next time would be 350 or more. She is nice, a good time, but is getting GPS.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5716730]Got to be a fake. Who the hell lists Creighton VA as their location [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35310b62-9fea-48f2-8eab-698bc54561f1[/URL].

Especially someone this hot. Have not reached out to her. If anyone has and knows she is real let me know. I'll gladly eat crow for making an assumption LOL.[/QUOTE]Asked where she was, she said Midtown — Manhattan!

Pictures appear to be that of a model based in Moscow.

[URL]https://sociumin.com/?id=135494443[/URL]

BAM.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5716730]Got to be a fake. Who the hell lists Creighton VA as their location [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35310b62-9fea-48f2-8eab-698bc54561f1[/URL].

Especially someone this hot. Have not reached out to her. If anyone has and knows she is real let me know. I'll gladly eat crow for making an assumption LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5716985]Last time I saw her it 300 and she told me next time would be 350 or more. She is nice, a good time, but is getting GPS.[/QUOTE]Can confirm those numbers are accurate. I wouldn't go above that, but for an occasional visit she's worth it. Definitely eager to please, no rush. No anal, covered only for FS, but those aren't unreasonable requests.

OneVanilla still works (YMMV). And below is true. If you buy an OV gift card you have to WAIT to use if for at least 4 hours up to 24 hours before you can use it. Why? The new cards data after its activated has to have time to propagate thru the payment system before it can be recognized and processed. You can try after 4 hours. If SA denies the card then definitely wait the 24 hours. After 4 denied attempts that card is blocked. Your account won't get banned. You'll just have to go buy another gift card and start the process and wait game all over again. This info is only about OV gift cards. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5698815]All I can report is that around T-Day I re-upped and again, re-upped, after Christmas using the OneVanilla Card. Only problem I had was trying to use the card "too soon" and getting rejected by SA.[/QUOTE]

Question for the SA veterans:

I am seeing a fair bit of female Premium members on SA. It seems rather odd that a young lady would lay that much money down to have a premiere membership every month.

Pro? Really serious about landing a guy with money? Theories are fine, but maybe someone here has experience with these types?

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5717252]OneVanilla still works (YMMV). And below is true. If you buy an OV gift card you have to WAIT to use if for at least 4 hours up to 24 hours before you can use it. Why? The new cards data after its activated has to have time to propagate thru the payment system before it can be recognized and processed. You can try after 4 hours. If SA denies the card then definitely wait the 24 hours. After 4 denied attempts that card is blocked. Your account won't get banned. You'll just have to go buy another gift card and start the process and wait game all over again. This info is only about OV gift cards. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I had trouble with Vanilla card so AMEX worked.