Arrangement Reports

Yeah, if I want to fuck a 10, I'll use regular dating apps and invest all the time and money a 10 requires before she gives in. But that could be weeks. If I want a 7 or 8 today or tomorrow, then SA is the way to go.

But I don't like 10's most of the time. I don't want someone a lot better looking than me. I'm vain, I like being the pretty one. I try to max out at an 8. 5.

I also don't like girls more than 8 years younger than me. I don't want to be the guy guys like me point out in the Viagra Triangle like "he's so paying for it".

I keep a narrow range going and specialize in that. Never lower than a 7, never higher than an 8. Lower and I would be too embarrassed to show up in public with them. Too high and it gets suspicious.

[QUOTE=PauFord;4982270]Appreciate you sharing your tips and tricks. I think this part below is probably the critical aspect of your approach. Everything else you've described would have limited appeal outside this audience you described. Young chicks have a daddy and / or a money thing. 10's have an ego and won't fuck for free. But I can absolutely see your approach working with this demo. Anytime I've had SA situations that went outside the pure fucking for cash realm such as spend the night or the entire weekend, travel, cook me dinners, etc. it was it always with a girl that fits in the class you described.[/QUOTE]

You're missing one key point. It's not simply that they fuck me because they find me attractive. They fuck me because I demonstrate a lifestyle that they want. Sure, they could get $300 to fuck me or someone like me for an hour. But when you see someone who lives the way they want, they start thinking less about $300 today and more about those trips to France or that penthouse or that Tesla with ludicrous mode installed. Is that worth skipping asking for money? Not for most women on SA, but I don't need most women, just a few to keep me happy. Right now I have five who I see pretty regularly and I rarely login to SA anymore. Of the many hundreds of women on there, anybody who plays their cards right should be able to find five who fit that criteria. It's honestly not that hard.

[QUOTE=OnlyDreams;4982372]I understand your point but again money is the motivation for 99% of the girls there and it's even more for the group you target. Why do you think a single mom, divorced or older woman is on SA?? 'cause they need some extra income to support themselves or their family. If they just wanted sex or date somebody they have hundreds of apps available and most of the time they don't even need any social platform to get laid. A woman can go to a CVS and still she can hook up with a couple of guys there. Any woman can have free sex whenever she wants but it doesn't happen with men like that or that simple. I do believe once in a while you many come across some woman on SA who only wants to have a nice date and doesn't care about the financial part. However, what is hard to believe is the amount if women you get for free from that site. I can have free meals once every 2 weeks or once a month but not every single night.

If I want to buy groceries the most logical thing to do is go to a grocery store but it doesn't necessarily mean I cannot find food at Home Depot or Menards (they do have a little snack section) . If men and women go to SA is because of a mutual financial arrangement it doesn't mean some do it for free but their first choice would be Tinder or similar apps.[/QUOTE]

Idk how people can pay thousands all for platonic. Lmaoo.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;4982440]You're missing one key point. It's not simply that they fuck me because they find me attractive. They fuck me because I demonstrate a lifestyle that they want. Sure, they could get $300 to fuck me or someone like me for an hour. But when you see someone who lives the way they want, they start thinking less about $300 today and more about those trips to France or that penthouse or that Tesla with ludicrous mode installed. Is that worth skipping asking for money? Not for most women on SA, but I don't need most women, just a few to keep me happy. Right now I have five who I see pretty regularly and I rarely login to SA anymore. Of the many hundreds of women on there, anybody who plays their cards right should be able to find five who fit that criteria. It's honestly not that hard.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;4982440]You're missing one key point. It's not simply that they fuck me because they find me attractive. They fuck me because I demonstrate a lifestyle that they want. Sure, they could get $300 to fuck me or someone like me for an hour. But when you see someone who lives the way they want, they start thinking less about $300 today and more about those trips to France or that penthouse or that Tesla with ludicrous mode installed. Is that worth skipping asking for money? Not for most women on SA, but I don't need most women, just a few to keep me happy. Right now I have five who I see pretty regularly and I rarely login to SA anymore. Of the many hundreds of women on there, anybody who plays their cards right should be able to find five who fit that criteria. It's honestly not that hard.[/QUOTE]Hard enough to find five real women on there. I gave up since so many scammers these days. I first went on four years ago, had a bunch of luck back then. Maybe I got inpatient but just was not worth the effort anymore. I got spoiled by a couple regulars that were very affordable.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;4981846]I got a few messages asking for more details so I'll add more here.

.[/QUOTE]Jesus Christ this was a masterclass.

To those who don't believe this let me tell you I didn't either until I saw a friend do the same shit. Fucking hot girls for cheap or free.

I've been fucking girls for money for so long I have a hard time grasping the comcepts you shared in this detail post.

Normally I'm balls deep in a girl within 7. 5 minutes of meeting her.

So just all the thought, planning and execution that goes into this is really impressive.

Honestly I don't hqve the time and resources or skills to pull this of but really enjoyed the story of the process.

I've noticed a few people say it's a big time investment. I don't know if that's necessarily true. Guess it depends on how much time a lot of time is to you. 80 - 100 hours to source five girls who are basically girlfriends isn't too bad. And it took me about 5-6 weeks to find them all and get things lined up. So 100 hours over 5-6 weeks is about 17-20 hours per week, less than three hours per day. Is that a lot? It's a pandemic, what else do I have to do!?

[QUOTE=Flipper12;4982681]Jesus Christ this was a masterclass.

To those who don't believe this let me tell you I didn't either until I saw a friend do the same shit. Fucking hot girls for cheap or free.

I've been fucking girls for money for so long I have a hard time grasping the comcepts you shared in this detail post.

Normally I'm balls deep in a girl within 7. 5 minutes of meeting her.

So just all the thought, planning and execution that goes into this is really impressive.

Honestly I don't hqve the time and resources or skills to pull this of but really enjoyed the story of the process.[/QUOTE]

Stan, your inbox is full.

[QUOTE=StanKost;4960761]She had approached me 1-2 months ago and we set up a ppm and she was texting me daily to confirm we are still on point and stood me up on the day of the date on my way to the hotel. I lost my money for the hotel and she apologized profusely but didn't offer a discount if we try meeting again so that and her age made me not pursue her again. I exchanged messages with a senior member here who had met her several times and had a good time with her until she "borrowed" money from him and ghosted him. She may be worth a try if she agrees to 200 $ for BBFS but proceed with caution.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnlyDreams;4982085]Hard to believe, I'm not saying it's impossible but what are the probabilities especially when nowadays SA is full of Pro's , Agencies, Scammers, Content Sellers and platonic bullshit!! ???? Then not all the girls are hot and the few hotties most likely most of them have boyfriends and come to the site looking exclusively for financial help. I myself have been extremely lucky, I've had a couple of young and hot ones who were no longer interested in money when they were with me (but I'm sure they had sugar daddies on the site becase they still need money) but it didn't happen every night. Maybe once every 2 weeks and it was for just a short period of time 'cause sooner or later they need money especially if they are young and go to school. I've also negotiated a lot and in some cases they have accepted half or even a third of their price tag. In fact I've had more luck negotiating than getting it for free. Even if I had Joe Bozzos wealth, I'd still negotiate and never pay what they ask no matter how hot they are. You may call me cheap, but I still value my hard earned money and who wouldn't like to have free hotties ?? It's hard to believe somebody gets free girls every night from that site. Again, once in a while some girl may like a guy and may do it for free but MONEY or FINANCIAL GAIN is the main or only motivation those girls go there. Otherwise they can be on hundreds of dating apps such as Tinder and I know this girl who is on Tinder when she wants to get fucked really good and is very picky about who she sees. However, when she needs money she goes to SA and her standards change as long as guys give her what she ask $ for. Moreover, even if those hot girls want to do it for free, my guess is that you have all the time in the world to play Casssanova. You devote your life 100% to the site. Unless you are retired , super rich and have nothing else to do then it could be feasible to convince women who are full of weird hormonal changes. Furthermore, I've been to the place you mentioned and I know that triangle is a show-off area. Nevertheless, with the pandemic the scene has changed drastically. It looks very dry, they enforce state guidelines, everybody wears masks, tables are spread, the hot staff have banished, it looks all weird, and you cannot longer go there just to show off.

The rest of us humans are more likely to hit the lottery than scoring hot girls for free everyday on SA. Sorry I don't mean to sound disrespectful and contradict your experience or insinuate you are lying, anything in life is possible. Just some things are hard to believe. Happy Hunting ![/QUOTE]I mostly agree with you man, too many guys on here tell one bs story after another, I don't believe in fairy tales, hot young amateur do not go to sa looking to fuck old fat ugly guys or any guys for free, they all do it for the money, lots of money, to many guys on here live in some fucking fantasy thinking hot young amateur will fuck them for free, in real world, money will get you the hottest pussy, that's why a guy like me was able to fuck over 300+ hot young coed, is was all about money. Just look at all the old guys at the playboy mansion party with their girls vs all the old guys at Walmart with their girls, do you see the different.

While I admire those of you that can wrangle SA 8's and 9's for free. I am married so all those suggestions and methods don't work for us married, much less older guys. I am in my upper sixties. I am balls deep in SA women. I never ever go over 200 and I am glad to give them the money. Why? Because when we are done, we are done. Over the years you develop what we call spidey sense. It used to be on seeing escorts but SA has its own needs for it. I can usually tell right away if a girl is a flake, etc. But I really don't care if she is an 8 or 9. There are more than sufficient quantities of 6's who are horny, broke and willing to fuck grandpa. I treat them very well and make them happy. They almost all text me within a few days for repeats. SA is really useful to guys on both ends of the spectrum-- the young fit single guys and us old married farts.

I've written it before. You need to make them feel like you are interested and are non-threatening. Most of them are tired of dating. They figure if they do me they already know they are going to have sex, have a few bucks in their purse and not feel like a hooker.

Randolph.

Does anyone know anything about this one? Profile say 58, she said she's actually 40, divorced, has her Master's and first time sb. Thinking the pic must be fake, no way that is actually her but tineye came up empty.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c93ede53-27e3-4a1e-ba77-b2717d5a5219[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jinurso;4982440]You're missing one key point. It's not simply that they fuck me because they find me attractive. They fuck me because I demonstrate a lifestyle that they want. Sure, they could get $300 to fuck me or someone like me for an hour. But when you see someone who lives the way they want, they start thinking less about $300 today and more about those trips to France or that penthouse or that Tesla with ludicrous mode installed. Is that worth skipping asking for money? Not for most women on SA, but I don't need most women, just a few to keep me happy. Right now I have five who I see pretty regularly and I rarely login to SA anymore. Of the many hundreds of women on there, anybody who plays their cards right should be able to find five who fit that criteria. It's honestly not that hard.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your taking the time to explain your approach. Nice work. I've been on SA for 7 or so years and have had a ton of success as well as some not so good experiences but I can't complain. I assume you're mid 30's, good looking / fit, etc.

Like the others, I was very skeptical at first-mainly regarding the volume of women you claimed to be fucking considering the basic challenges with SA site in general (scammers, fakes, flakes, GPS, etc.). But I'm assuming that's a bit exaggerated to start with which is fine. But, the point you make is legitimate and I think many miss it. Once you weed out the GPS, fakes and scammers (a large group on SA currently), the 28-40 demo is ripe for this approach. For the rest of us, his approach makes sense and I've had it work for me albeit in a different way. I'm a fit, mid 40's and have had 4 sb's in the past stop taking allowance because I treated them very well and they wanted to spend time together just because. I'm seeing one SB like that right now. The issue for me is that they inevitably want to get more and more clingy even though they know I'm married (but considering divorce). Plus, I like variety, so I tend to move on even when the allowance is low or nothing. The bottomline is he's shifting her perspective from "I can fuck this guy every week and make 1200/ mo" to "wait, this guy has it going on, appears legit into me and has an awesome lifestyle. Maybe he's the one"? He gets her to fall back into her fantasy mindset of her dream situation. The girls he targets have been burned any number of ways-bad relationships, career, now have kids, etc. He's dangling nirvana in front of them, showing more interest than they typically get from men, treating them nice and making them forget why they met him in the first place. If it's true, and it is plausible, it's great game. Hat's off man. I still struggle that you do it every night but who really cares. I wouldn't / couldn't manage that volume anyway. There's something to be said for pizza, beer and your fav sporting event without the bitches. I'm also in a different stage with different issues (married, don't have a ton of time to play) so your approach is perfect for the 30/40 yo single guy. Oh, to go back to my 30 yo single self.

I should point out, because a few people made this mistake, that I'm not meeting new women every night. I'm seeing one of the five women I previously met over the last couple of months almost every night. I have met maybe like 15 or so total. I'm surprised that people are skeptical about that. I wouldn't use SA if I couldn't produce that volume. I would just stick to Tinder. What kinds of numbers are you all getting?

[QUOTE=TimeForPlay10;4983633]I appreciate your taking the time to explain your approach. Nice work. I've been on SA for 7 or so years and have had a ton of success as well as some not so good experiences but I can't complain. I assume you're mid 30's, good looking / fit, etc.

Like the others, I was very skeptical at first-mainly regarding the volume of women you claimed to be fucking considering the basic challenges with SA site in general (scammers, fakes, flakes, GPS, etc.). But I'm assuming that's a bit exaggerated to start with which is fine. But, the point you make is legitimate and I think many miss it. Once you weed out the GPS, fakes and scammers (a large group on SA currently), the 28-40 demo is ripe for this approach. For the rest of us, his approach makes sense and I've had it work for me albeit in a different way. I'm a fit, mid 40's and have had 4 sb's in the past stop taking allowance because I treated them very well and they wanted to spend time together just because. I'm seeing one SB like that right now. The issue for me is that they inevitably want to get more and more clingy even though they know I'm married (but considering divorce). Plus, I like variety, so I tend to move on even when the allowance is low or nothing. The bottomline is he's shifting her perspective from "I can fuck this guy every week and make 1200/ mo" to "wait, this guy has it going on, appears legit into me and has an awesome lifestyle. Maybe he's the one"? He gets her to fall back into her fantasy mindset of her dream situation. The girls he targets have been burned any number of ways-bad relationships, career, now have kids, etc. He's dangling nirvana in front of them, showing more interest than they typically get from men, treating them nice and making them forget why they met him in the first place. If it's true, and it is plausible, it's great game. Hat's off man. I still struggle that you do it every night but who really cares. I wouldn't / couldn't manage that volume anyway. There's something to be said for pizza, beer and your fav sporting event without the bitches. I'm also in a different stage with different issues (married, don't have a ton of time to play) so your approach is perfect for the 30/40 yo single guy. Oh, to go back to my 30 yo single self.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pal5600;4982952]I mostly agree with you man, too many guys on here tell one bs story after another, I don't believe in fairy tales, hot young amateur do not go to sa looking to fuck old fat ugly guys or any guys for free, they all do it for the money, lots of money, to many guys on here live in some fucking fantasy thinking hot young amateur will fuck them for free, in real world, money will get you the hottest pussy, that's why a guy like me was able to fuck over 300+ hot young coed, is was all about money. Just look at all the old guys at the playboy mansion party with their girls vs all the old guys at Walmart with their girls, do you see the different[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll add;.

These SA girls know how to stroke an old man's ego. They make old guys think these girls actually like them. SA girls are just like regular hookers. Unlike regular hookers SA girls will go out on traditional dates, movie and dinner. And maybe some eye candy at the next family celebration. The more these SA girls stroke your ego the easier it is to get more of an old man's money. At least regular hookers don't pretend that they like you.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;4983805]I should point out, because a few people made this mistake, that I'm not meeting new women every night. I'm seeing one of the five women I previously met over the last couple of months almost every night. I have met maybe like 15 or so total. I'm surprised that people are skeptical about that. I wouldn't use SA if I couldn't produce that volume. I would just stick to Tinder. What kinds of numbers are you all getting?[/QUOTE]They haven't done the work you have and they ***** about their shitty results. It's easier to call bs on you than take a hard look in the mirror.