Fakes, Scams and To Good to be True
The last few days I have posted a few of my personal rules on this subject matter. Recently, I have made it my mission to investigate the new girls. I have created my own personal contact list of local BP girls along with their phone number, links, and response to my inquiries. Being retired, I am dedicating two hours each morning, contacting new girls. Occasionally, I will TOFTT, (as I can afford it), and after careful analysis of the girl.
I will report the good and the bad. Please don't PM me with requests. I will not share the list so don't ask. This is my personal project to benefit the Tampa St. Pete Forum as I post for all to see.
On a second subject.
I have had a few newbie PMs asking me about LE Stings and how to avoid them. Here is my simple rule (that pretty much all senior mongers know).
Do not text or say anything that could possibly be incriminating. Realize that those "to good to be true" may be LE. Upon arriving (if it gets that far), do not say or DO anything incriminating. Let the girl prove to YOU that she is not LE. She wants YOUR MONEY, or she wants to ARREST YOU!. If she is legit, she WILL prove it to you FIRST. If she is LE, she will try to get you to incriminate yourself. Better to walk than be arrested. DUH.
I will not share my own personal method, but here is an example that works for you newbies.
Text, or on the phone. "Hi, I really like your pictures". Answered back, "Thank you, or what would you like, or what do you want?" something of that nature. Your response. "I am not sure, I like looking at the adds. I have read posts for massages, do you do that?" (this is legal). She answers back, "yes $$ for XX amount of time".
Your response, "WOW that is expensive, I ONLY need a back massage". This will throw off her game a bit but that's ok. A little bit of chatter and you say. "That is expensive but my back really hurts. When can I see you?" again nothing incriminating.
My experience is that with a sting, it stops here. LE does not want someone wasting their time when they are looking to bust Johns. USUALLY, LE will then cut it off, she will give some excuse not to see you.
If legit (or if LE thinks they can still get your smart ass), you move on to the appointment. At that point. Make her prove to YOU that she is not LE. LE will not touch you or fondle you. Do not touch her first (felony assault on a LE officer). Do not feel you have to prove anything to her first. Personally, I like to say, "wow you are beautiful, may I kiss you?" If legit, she feels more comfortable to prove first.
Again, this is for newbies. Seniors, feel free to add your own methods and experience. Again, please don't PM me. I will not give out my list of contacts. Only digits for those I have reviewed on this site.
On a third subject for newbies. Do not PM seniors asking for information. I am not a senior (yet) and I do not PM seniors asking for information.
I have been mongering for a long time and also reading USASG for over a year, so I know WHY you do not PM seniors.
Seniors trust seniors, and they earn that trust. A newbie that PMs a senior could easily be LE. "Not going to happen".
You earn your stripes. If you do not know this, then it is better that you simply read posts and learn. Then start TOFTT so you can ad something of value and provide seniors with info. You will develop friendships and find that even as a regular or newbie, there are seniors that now will help you out, because YOU gave first, and often.
Watch when someone gets flagged or booted by A2. There is a reason. Not too hard to figure out, and many times A2 takes the time to re-explain why. He is protecting his site, his investment of money and time. Respect that.
Stay safe, TOFTT and report it.
My next post will be how to burn the fakes (for those interested in having a little fun with A2 permitting.).
[blue]I'm just wondering why a guy with less than two months and 33 posts is talking to noobs?
Which user did you used to have that I banned?
A2[/blue]
Amber: 21-year-old Thin Blonde Stunner
Amber: HH, DATY, FIV, Fetish.
Chemistry - 8. Very friendly, made me comfortable immediately. She was courteous and didn't watch the clock.
Hygiene - 7. Would rate higher, but there was a soft scent of sweat. I'm certain if I asked her to shower, she would have, but she had just arrived when I did so I didn't want to waste time.
Appearance - 8. Would rate higher if she had been all dressed up, though I preferred her casual any way. Rated this way so you know what to expect if you meet her.
Service - 10. She delivered everything I asked for and took direction perfectly. Didn't go for FS, but wasn't interested.
Attitude - 10. Total sweetheart.
Location - 5. Cheap hotel off Dale Mabry.
Candy - 10. No signs of candy use at all. Whether she uses anything or not, it was not at all apparent during the dream.
Overall - 8/10. Would rate higher if we didn't have to deal with the incall situation. It turned out fine, but be aware that setting things up may not always be easy. Don't let that stop you, because it turned out great for me.
Now, the details. And first, a disclaimer. You'll note that this is post number one for me. I had another account where I mostly lurked here for probably six years or so. But I haven't contributed an actual report, and wanted to do so with a fresh account.
I feel asleep this evening and had a dream. In the dream, I contacted Amber by text shortly after she posted a new ad ([URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hey-guys-its-amber-3-who-wants-to-be-the-first-of-the-night-get-my-new-andcome-see-me/21733211[/URL]), offering her first session of the day. She responded quickly and was courteous and communicative via text. Her problem: she didn't have access to her incall, but offered to get a hotel if we could meet for HH. She didn't have the money to cover the hotel, but offered to take a portion of the rate and pay for the room, then take the rest once we were done.
Normally, that would be a red flag. You hand her money up front, and the provider takes off without you. I had read a few reviews of Amber here in this dream, so I thought it was worth the risk. I didn't mind risking the money for what could be a good provider relationship. It's a loss leader, and in this case, it bore fruit.
As the dream continued, I met Amber at a cheap motel on Dale Mabry. She was there waiting for me in a t-shirt and jean shorts, looking very casual but also very girl-next-door cute. She smiled and gave me a big hug, and invited me in with her to secure the room. I handed her the first of two envelopes instead and she took care of that business. Then she walked me to the room and we went in. When we did, I put the second envelope on the dresser and she didn't even glance at it.
In my dream life, I have a fetish. I hinted at it by text so she at least knew what I would ask for, and she obliged. I was nervous, she put me at ease and was very understanding. After the door was shut and we talked details for a minute, she suggested we both get comfortable. We did, and OMG was she stunning. The photos DO NOT do her justice.
She is about 5'5 and 100 pounds or so. If you like your girls thin, she's perfect. She's got dirty blonde hair, which was in a pony tail in the dream, and she's got a youthful, pretty face and a friendly smile. On the business end, her ass is absolutely tiny, and her kitty and asshole are just perfect. It's the kind of dream meal you want for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Before she finished stripping down, I asked her to leave her panties on and hop on the bed on all fours. I pulled them off myself and dove right in for DATY and DATO. Absolutely delicious, and she responded with purrs and soft whimpers. She smelled a little bit of sweat, and I could have asked her to shower first, but you know what? I kind of liked it and was happy to continue as is. Her kitty was clean and fresh otherwise, and tasted like it hadn't been touched in a long time. Which isn't the case, of course, but that's how it seemed.
After a while, I asked her to flip over so I could continue DATY. She doesn't strike me as a take-charge type, she was perfectly responsive to direction. After a bit more of that, I asked her to climb up onto my face and ride while I did my thing. That was one half of my fetish, and about where my dream will come to an end for the purpose of this review.
Amber is a total sweetheart, a beautiful little thing and I will absolutely repeat. If you do the same, treat her kindly and I'm sure she'll take good care of you. Getting the meeting set up might be a hassle on some occasions, but she assured me that she usually has a regular place to meet. Also, I know FS is on the menu, but for my dream, I was content with some friendly fetish play.
Feel free to take my first-post review with a grain of salt, but I'm sure I'll earn some trust in time.
Worst case, you lose your half?
Somebody needs to explain this statement to me: "Worst case, you lose your half " If she runs off with half your bills, you loose the whole amount, don't you? Bill HO.
[QUOTE=NoWiggleRoom;3068415]I've read this on multiple posts. Does this really work? I've never seen bills that have been taped together in circulation in this country. Plus, I thought tearing up currency is illegal.[/QUOTE]
Be Prepared For Paperwork Hell
[QUOTE=Cook72;3068879]Ya, not like you can get half your money for half the bill. Torn currency is returned to the Federal Reserve by the banks and is removed from circulation. I have never encountered a bill torn in half lengthwise. But generally, a bank will accept a bill if it is more than 50% intact. So if you want to try this approach I would suggest you keep the larger portion.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I've had to exchange torn currency as well as mildew from water damage. Recollection was that I had to use a federal bank and there was a crap load of paperwork to establish what happened, why, etc. I also don't recall getting an exchange at that moment, but having to wait for the bank president to review the situation. If he / she is there then the exchange happens quickly. State banks, which are not covered under the Federal banking acts, generally will not exchange or accept the currency.
Of course some jackass may accuse you of destroying currency protected under the law. How do you explain torn or worse yet, cut?
Sounds like the best option is to simply hold the money until you're done to avoid the trips out the door, etc.
I've only been scammed once and learned a lot from the experience. . . Set the money on a dresser near the door. I asked a visitor why she wasn't getting comfortable. I knew I was in trouble when she explained that she just wasn't sure she wanted to upset her lesbian girlfriend by actually doing dick. She jumped up and hit for the door and car before I could sneaze, reaching out for the cash as she passed. We all learn from early mistakes. Don't pay up front.
And a new twist, if you set the cash down, make sure it's close enough for you to grab and head out the door.
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Staci Stacks!! When was the last time she was in Tampa.
She was great when I saw her in ATL and again in TAMPA last year. Has she been around.
Any intel on these beauties?
Well I guess my regular is busy this weekend. I Wasn't sure when I got back into town if she was still in the game. I know some of these look TGTBT but heck any intel would be appreciated.
India.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ebony-spinner-india-call-now-im-ms-sexy-black-india-black-813-563-3095/21609298[/URL]
Peanut- I've seen post a few times.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/perfect-5-s-rv-c-flawless-cut-f-ak-t-of-th-m-all-real/20400083[/URL]
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-as-key-lime-pie/21693815[/URL]
Destiny.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-sexy-young-petite-playtime-specials/21707902[/URL]
White Knighting vesus Captain Save A Ho
[QUOTE=LikeAll;3069921]Wasn't sure where to ask a general question.
What is White Kighting? Try to help out a girl? Puffing yourself up on the posts?
Thanks in advance.
[blue]White Knighting is pretty much what it sounds like. When a guy straps on his armor to come to the rescue of his lady love. From a moderation standpoint, I start throwing flags at the point where he defends his one true love by saying that whatever problem she had was the fault of the monger.
Generally speaking those posts go like this;
1. Quotes some guy
2. Says "I talked to whoever and she said"
3. I throw the flag and put him in the sin bin.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]A2 gave the answer to your question on White Knighting. You also asked if that was the same as trying to help a girl out. No. That is called Captaining or Captain Save A Ho. It usually involves some sad story on the girls part (almost ALWAYS a ploy, lie, or just made up) that causes the guy to feel sorry for the object of his love. He then feels it is his duty to "help" or "fix" her. He will want to take her away from "the life" and keep her as his one and only. Kind of like adopting a wild animal (like a fox or a wolf. So beautiful! - until they bite your hand off). It ALWAYS involves money. There is nothing else that will "help" the girl according to her. Often, it is the guy taking the girl in and giving her shelter and providing for her "needs. " Those needs are 99% of the time drugs. The girl will claim or swear she wants to get clean and profusely state her thankfulness to the guy for helping her get straight. Meanwhile, almost always, when the guy is not around, she is doing her drugs with her "real friends" and fucking other guys for additional money because whatever her Captain gives her will NEVER be enough to meet her drug habit needs. She may even be getting "help" from more than one Captain at the same time! Eventually the Captain (s) is broke and broken hearted, comes to their senses, and has to save some of his dignity by kicking the girl out or dumping her. Many of the hobbyist reading this will know EXACTLY what I am saying because they / I have been there and done that. Maybe less than 1% of the girls can actually change with some help and move on.
If you are considering that, and based on your question, you may be, then I wish you good luck. Maybe you have met a unicorn. I personally have never seen one, let alone saved one from the street life.