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Never understand the tipping though. I mean especially beforehand. The "tipping" part to me is if she has good service, then I will come see her again and again. Especially not beforehand when there arent reviews or knowing what type of service. That stuff is just a hustle by them. The rates they are charging these days and the service is shocking. I've been in the hobby for 16 years and times have changed. Make them earn that money.
[QUOTE=Gravitus;7259672][URL] https://skipthegames.com/posts/tucson/female-escorts/caucasian_e/-petite-with-no-panties-/407489776986yy[/URL]
I posted on Olivia in the Tucson forum because that's where I was at the time and she happened to be visiting back in March. She mentioned she's based mostly in Phoenix and I saw her ad up. I did a quick search of her handle here and didn't see anything, so I figured I'd share my experience because you all are missing out.
She's a legit spinner and looks just like her photos. Fast comms. Her ad listed 600 for PSE, which includes BBBJ. When I first reached out via text, I let her know I was interested in PSE but planned to negotiate since I was really just wanted BBBJ included. Turned out I didn't need to. She quoted 300 hr. I asked if everything on the menu was included and she said yes.
When she arrived at my hotel, we clarified everything. She said the 300 wasn't supposed to include BBBJ, but she was good with it at 400. I don't think it was an upsale, just a miscue on the comms. Totally worth it in my opinion. She was enthusiastic, took direction well, and still got the PSE. Only request was to be careful with her nipple piercings.
She did require video verification beforehand, which was new to me, but I was fine with it. It actually gave me peace of mind when I saw she's real and looks just like her photos. No visible signs of extra curricular activities. Just a THC pen.
All in all, highly recommend if you're a spinner fan.[/QUOTE]I saw her last week at a decent hotel in Tempe. I concur with OP- she is real and matches her pics. She is really skinny and definitely A cups with pierced nipples. She advertises higher prices than what she texted me.
A few things that turned me off: she was definitely stoned when I arrived. She was really quiet and it caused awkwardness as I like for new girls to take the lead so I can play under their rules. DATY was good but she kept swatting my hand away if it even got near her pussy. No FOV, no FIV was definitely a rule that I didn't know about.
No background noise so the silence was deafening. I would have preferred music or TV. After the action started, she barely showed any signs of enjoyment (real or fake). Again, this added to the awkwardness. She does provide good quality condoms so that's a plus.
In the end, I am not sure I will repeat. Also, she's been spamming my number with her current locations as she moves around so I had to block her.
[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;7260789]Never understand the tipping though. I mean especially beforehand. The "tipping" part to me is if she has good service, then I will come see her again and again. Especially not beforehand when there arent reviews or knowing what type of service. That stuff is just a hustle by them. The rates they are charging these days and the service is shocking. I've been in the hobby for 16 years and times have changed. Make them earn that money.[/QUOTE]Their fee is the tip as far as I'm concerned. No reason to tip them anything.
[QUOTE=KhromedHome;7260849]I saw her last week at a decent hotel in Tempe. I concur with OP- she is real and matches her pics. She is really skinny and definitely A cups with pierced nipples. She advertises higher prices than what she texted me.
A few things that turned me off: she was definitely stoned when I arrived. She was really quiet and it caused awkwardness as I like for new girls to take the lead so I can play under their rules. DATY was good but she kept swatting my hand away if it even got near her pussy. No FOV, no FIV was definitely a rule that I didn't know about.
No background noise so the silence was deafening. I would have preferred music or TV. After the action started, she barely showed any signs of enjoyment (real or fake). Again, this added to the awkwardness. She does provide good quality condoms so that's a plus.
In the end, I am not sure I will repeat. Also, she's been spamming my number with her current locations as she moves around so I had to block her.[/QUOTE]I almost got the hand swat too LOL. I was testing the waters spreading her ass in 69 and moved a finger close to gauge if I could do FIA. She reached back real quick but I moved it real quick. She was talkative with me but I'm pretty sure she wasn't baked yet. My sesh was earlier in the afternoon like 3. She definitely hit the pen afterwards. Was your sesh later? If so, might have a better time if you hit her up early.
[QUOTE=Gravitus;7261142]I almost got the hand swat too LOL. I was testing the waters spreading her ass in 69 and moved a finger close to gauge if I could do FIA. She reached back real quick but I moved it real quick. She was talkative with me but I'm pretty sure she wasn't baked yet. My sesh was earlier in the afternoon like 3. She definitely hit the pen afterwards. Was your sesh later? If so, might have a better time if you hit her up early.[/QUOTE]Nah it was earlier than you LOL. I think it was 12 or 1230. She was nice when we did talk but overall she was a bit quiet.
Anyone ever have experience with meet and greets held by an agency? I have been invited to one in the next couple months but I have no idea if it is worth it. Any feedback would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=KhromedHome;7261313]Nah it was earlier than you LOL. I think it was 12 or 1230. She was nice when we did talk but overall she was a bit quiet.[/QUOTE]Well damn. I guess it's a YMMV type situation.
[QUOTE=KhromedHome;7260849]I saw her last week at a decent hotel in Tempe. I concur with OP- she is real and matches her pics. She is really skinny and definitely A cups with pierced nipples. She advertises higher prices than what she texted me.
A few things that turned me off: she was definitely stoned when I arrived. She was really quiet and it caused awkwardness as I like for new girls to take the lead so I can play under their rules. DATY was good but she kept swatting my hand away if it even got near her pussy. No FOV, no FIV was definitely a rule that I didn't know about.
No background noise so the silence was deafening. I would have preferred music or TV. After the action started, she barely showed any signs of enjoyment (real or fake). Again, this added to the awkwardness. She does provide good quality condoms so that's a plus..[/QUOTE]My Olivia experience.
I went to check her out 3 or 4 months ago. Khromed describes her well and I agree with everything he said, but here's my take: She is an anorexic mess. Her body chemistry musts be off because her breath and pvssy both smelled horrible. I was actually disgusted by the nasty smell, so much so that I went and washed my hands and left without getting any service. I just didn't want to be there anymore. Yuk.
She caught my eye a while back and I finally got a chance to see her last month on my most recent pass through Phoenix. She's also referred to as Milan in her review history and elsewhere online.
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Meetmariah[/URL]
Pros: Very hot body. Not a gym girlie type bod, but definitely a fit spinner. Petite but with nice shape to her. Very well done man-mades that aren't over-the-top and fit her bod well. She's no-face in ads, but definitely a hottie. Appearance is an A. Nice IC in a townhome near Arcadia with gated parking. I typically like to book in advance and sent an inquiry about the next day. She vetted me and replied within 20 minutes, saying that she had same-day (within the hour) availability if I was able, so I jumped at the schedule opening. Good communicator all around. She answered the door in a satin robe and revealed that smokin' hot bod in a really nice bra and panty set after I set foot inside. Knew I was in for a great time as she walked ahead of me up the stairs and teased me with a view of that shapely ass. Little bit of small talk, took care of business and then right into things. Unfortunately, she's a non-GFE provider despite a "no list" that only has Greek and FIV on it. Sadly, CBJ only. Good news is that she's helluva performer, CBJ is really fucking good and she makes it sexy AF. Baby girl is as tight as that bod so the main course is an awesome time. She's fairly interactive and gets into the session. She's light years from disinterested or "dead fish", but there was also a limit to her level of interaction. Perhaps that's a chemistry or YMMV thing. Had a very good run with her, about 40 minutes, and was pretty drained and satisfied with the appointment. Good thing because she didn't seem to be leaning toward an encore. I didn't ask, but I don't think MSOG is on the menu.
Cons: She's definitely not an over-the-top bubbly personality, but she is a nice gal and does have a welcoming air about her. She did loosen up and become more comfortable through the introduction and small talk phase and as the session unfolded. Not a lot to complain about here, but I definitely wish her ad was more overt about the level of service -- at least add BBBJ to the no list.
Overall: She's hot and a solid provider. On one hand, I did feel the ad was not fully representative. On the other, I'm kind of glad, because I wouldn't have wanted to pass on this one. It was a great fucking time, perhaps my new gold standard for non-GFE.
WIR: Enthusiastic yes. Even retroactively re-setting expectations here around a non-GFE experience, there's still a lot of bang for the buck. I enjoyed the time with her both in and out of session. I'll definitely be back.
[QUOTE=WhatHurtz;7261781]My Olivia experience.
I went to check her out 3 or 4 months ago. Khromed describes her well and I agree with everything he said, but here's my take: She is an anorexic mess. Her body chemistry musts be off because her breath and pvssy both smelled horrible. I was actually disgusted by the nasty smell, so much so that I went and washed my hands and left without getting any service. I just didn't want to be there anymore. Yuk.[/QUOTE]Damn. Sounding more like I just got lucky on my visit. That would've ruined it for me too. Been there as I'm sure most mongers have too if they've been in the hobby for any length of time. I've had repeats with great providers, solid reviews and no issues, but will never repeat because I caught a smell. Once it happens, I'll could never repeat. The illusion is broken. Don't care how good they looked or were in bed. There's no going back once it happens LOL.
[QUOTE=JayLake;7260850]Their fee is the tip as far as I'm concerned. No reason to tip them anything.[/QUOTE]The "tip" is the upsell language. Yeah you can get sucked on, but you need to "tip" more for full service. Oh, you want to poke the brown star? That's an extra "tip".
They never list flat rates for anything other than time for this reason.
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;7266663]The "tip" is the upsell language. Yeah you can get sucked on, but you need to "tip" more for full service. Oh, you want to poke the brown star? That's an extra "tip".
They never list flat rates for anything other than time for this reason.[/QUOTE]When you agree to an upsale, do you pay right then or settle up after?
[QUOTE=Gravitus;7267714]When you agree to an upsale, do you pay right then or settle up after?[/QUOTE]I tend to gravitate toward providers who set clear expectations, so I haven't come across this often. But it has happened a couple of times where I have inquired about the In-and-Out secret menu and have received a positive response. I've had providers call time out on the session to settle up, but I've also had ones who keep the action flowing and let me run a tab, so to speak, which I think has only happened when it's a provider I'm repeating with.
[QUOTE=CarpetBagger;7268103]I tend to gravitate toward providers who set clear expectations, so I haven't come across this often. But it has happened a couple of times where I have inquired about the In-and-Out secret menu and have received a positive response. I've had providers call time out on the session to settle up, but I've also had ones who keep the action flowing and let me run a tab, so to speak, which I thinks has only happened when it's a provider I'm repeating with.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it. I've actually never been to an AMP or spa, but I've got a decent idea of what to expect just from reading others' reports. I've always had a thing for Asians and where I'm based, it's tough to find Asian providers unless it's through an agency or AMP. Thinking I might finally give an AMP a shot on my next adventure.
My experience has been that with transactional types, they will stop the action and want the additional gift right now. Asian and Latina MPs, blow and go escorts, etc. all want it up front. More laid back providers are willing to keep the vibe moving and settle up at the end.
[QUOTE=Gravitus;7267714]When you agree to an upsale, do you pay right then or settle up after?[/QUOTE]