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[QUOTE=Stimulus]I just read a story about a woman who ran over a man and dragged him to his death in Monroe yesterday. Readers comments on two different sites include posts which say this woman is a known prostitute and that she is a stripper who pulled a cash-and-dash on one poster.

Update: They've just updated the story to say she was an exotic dancer who worked for Naughty Bodies.[/QUOTE]Those were my exact thoughts as I heard this story on the radio on my way home this evening. Viewed the pics in the link and do not recall seeing her in any ads. You would think the mole on her cheek would make her easy to identify.

My other thoughts about the pics were that she isn't much to look at and I would venture to say any advertising that she did was probably using fake pics. If Naughy B's is the website 247Dancers, saw the faces of several CL and BP posters but she was not one of them.

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I have used these agencies a lot over the years (though not recently). Generally speaking, the ladies who work for these places want to upsell you an expensive HJ, not cash-and-dash. I have used them all at some point: Cincy Seductions, Best Shows, and even Naughty Bodies. I have been burned on some misleading descriptions and old photos, but I never had anyone come to my house who I would describe as criminal.

In fact, one of these ladies got very angry with me when I politely asked her to leave after it was clear that I was not going to get anything more than self-service.

In summary: The outcall dance agencies are a bad value for the hobbyist dollar, but seldom dangerous.


[QUOTE=Ceenote]Those were my exact thoughts as I heard this story on the radio on my way home this evening. Viewed the pics in the link and do not recall seeing her in any ads. You would think the mole on her cheek would make her easy to identify.

My other thoughts about the pics were that she isn't much to look at and I would venture to say any advertising that she did was probably using fake pics. If Naughy B's is the website 247Dancers, saw the faces of several CL and BP posters but she was not one of them.[/QUOTE]

I the Court System Nails her Azz to the Wall. She knew the RISK, and being it was a Cash & Dash, that makes her a thief, and should be charged with the highest degree of murder possible.

Now she is going to go into the Crying Woman I Was In Danger Mode, and Feared for Her Life BullShyt. The Prosecutor should have a Field Day with this case, and those cash-n-dash hoes.

I think we are about to her a real book of stories all happening in this case. Maybe now the agency she works for can go down as well, and/or her pimps/handlers.

This is not her first rip-off, but it will be her "LAST."

[QUOTE=Stimulus]I just read a story about a woman who ran over a man and dragged him to his death in Monroe yesterday. Readers comments on two different sites include posts which say this woman is a known prostitute and that she is a stripper who pulled a cash-and-dash on one poster.

Here's what one poster on WLWT's site said about her (keep in mind we don't know if it's true - he may have her confused with someone else):

"He hired her to strip at his house. He then wanted sex. She refused, he wanted his money back. She would not give his money back, she tried to leave he block the car and she panicked and ran him over. When she got to a safe place she stopped. end of story."

Someone on WCPO's site said:

"She is a call girl. Me and my friends call that company about 2 years ago she took our $1000 and ran away. I'm pretty sure thats what happened with that guy. But he didn't want his $300 ran away like we did. he paid very high price for that> Hope they will keep her in there for long long time."

On the following links there are photos of her. The news story says her name is Kristina Hensley. Anybody know her?

[url]http://www.wlwt.com/news/24549799/detail.html#[/url]

[url]http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/police-still-investigating-fatal-car-dragging-bond-set-for-driver-851226.html[/url]

We may never know if the victim, Jae Cho, was a fellow monger or not. He may have even been a poster here. In any case, may the poor guy rest in peace.

Update: They've just updated the story to say she was an exotic dancer who worked for Naughty Bodies.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up on Lexie. She is very pregnant and was a joy to visit today. It was my first visit with her so it was short and sweet but I will visit again. She looks great and has incredible nips.

Ok guys is this the same girl thats on CL and Backpage thats a crapy dance and do it your self girl, or is this some one diff. If its not the same girl I may just check her out. I just don't want to go see her if its the tug your own girl.

[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2694849/miranda[/url]

Wow, she is a buxom thing to be sure. Leery about the no reviews on the site though. I'd suggest waiting until she's vetted there by someone else. From the pics, I doubt it'd be long. ;)

[QUOTE=Brummdog]Ok guys is this the same girl thats on CL and Backpage thats a crapy dance and do it your self girl, or is this some one diff. If its not the same girl I may just check her out. I just don't want to go see her if its the tug your own girl.

[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2694849/miranda[/url][/QUOTE]

I know that this is not a direct answer, but I thought it was the same girl, but she is offering GFE, etc. at Escorts. I would wait until someone posts a review, that should clear up any confusion, at least I would hope so.

[QUOTE=Brummdog]Ok guys is this the same girl thats on CL and Backpage thats a crapy dance and do it your self girl, or is this some one diff. If its not the same girl I may just check her out. I just don't want to go see her if its the tug your own girl.

[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2694849/miranda[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ky Guy 123]Wow, she is a buxom thing to be sure. Leery about the no reviews on the site though. I'd suggest waiting until she's vetted there by someone else. From the pics, I doubt it'd be long. ;)[/QUOTE]She lists FS and GFE in her profile. Nothing about BJ. However, the operative word in her profile is: Masterbation

[QUOTE=Todd Cincy]I have used these agencies a lot over the years (though not recently). Generally speaking, the ladies who work for these places want to upsell you an expensive HJ, not cash-and-dash. I have used them all at some point: Cincy Seductions, Best Shows, and even Naughty Bodies. I have been burned on some misleading descriptions and old photos, but I never had anyone come to my house who I would describe as criminal.

In fact, one of these ladies got very angry with me when I politely asked her to leave after it was clear that I was not going to get anything more than self-service.

In summary: The outcall dance agencies are a bad value for the hobbyist dollar, but seldom dangerous.[/QUOTE]I feel for the man who died. Maybe he should of went with a stripper that was well known.come to find out he didn't get a stripper at all. He got their only drag queen. I know boo, tasteless, bad humor. Whatever it was funny.

And by the way I got it off 700wlw this morning.

We both have known these women from years in the past as nubies. Basically a rip-off. I (personally know one of the owners and several of the former dancers as many of you). They go through Hell and always get the short shaft. That being said, if you hear they are former employees, watch it! There are a few out there, and they are former employees that are okay - they know who they are and know I am not bashing them. Just be careful!

WM


[QUOTE=Whodeyman]I feel for the man who died. Maybe he should of went with a stripper that was well known.come to find out he didn't get a stripper at all. He got their only drag queen. I know boo, tasteless, bad humor. Whatever it was funny.

And by the way I got it off 700wlw this morning.[/QUOTE]

I think I have fallen to the bottom rung of the ladder with you too, bro. Ive tried reaching her for the past week with no return calls or messages. Sad. Guess we aren't worth her time anymore. And as long as we have known her, really sad.

WM

[QUOTE=Whodeyman]Yeah me too! The last 3 times that I was supposed to hook up with her and showed up there was a total waste of time. She doesn't even return my calls anymore. I guess I fell to the bottom of the ladder.[/QUOTE]

So, I had my second appointment with Callie a week and a half ago (the first happened soon after she arrived into town). She was a new (to me) location, and I had no problems scheduling an appointment time. Directions to the new place were fine and I had none of the drama that has been mentioned in prior posts. I dunno if the issues previously reported were tied to individuals, or just a busy week for her or what, but I had a great time with no problems getting ahold of her or scheduling my appointment.

As far as the session itself goes, it was great. There are plenty of detailed reviews of Callie, so I don't feel like I need to recap that all here. Just wanted to add my 2cents worth into the discussion. I'm certainly not belittling or doubting other member's experiences, just pointing out that if you do happen to get a hold of her (which I had no problems accomplishing), she's still providing a top notch service for a reasonable price.

P.S. Truth be told though, Callie was actually my second choice for my afternoon of entertainment. I'd tried calling Mallory (who've I've yet to meet), but never got an answer after three calls and I figured rather than hoping for a callback, I'd stick with someone who to me has always been a hassle free and reliable provider.

I've seen Lexie regularly for many months and I highly recommend her. She's a very sweet girl and great at her job. Yes, she's 8+ mos pregnant but she's super sweet, trustworthy, aims to please and still looks great.

[QUOTE=Wingman Todd]I think I have fallen to the bottom rung of the ladder with you too, bro. Ive tried reaching her for the past week with no return calls or messages. Sad. Guess we aren't worth her time anymore. And as long as we have known her, really sad.

WM[/QUOTE]Same for me too.

Called her around 10:00 AM and set an appointment for 11:30. She does not drive and asked me to pick her up at a public location in a busy area. I read about this before so I was OK with that. We drove to a typical motel a few miles away and then the fun began. Once she checked in she called me. I was waiting a little ways away. $75 for a great massage and FS with all the trimmings including multiple trips to heaven. The massage was not just a quick back rub, but a nice long massage. I had a great time. No need to drive her back home as she kept the room.

Visited Sara last night and had another wonderful time. She informed me that she is only going to be available every other weekend. Starting with this weekend. So mark your calanders and keep track of the Tongue Twister cycle and the phases of the moon. Sara + Full moon = WOW!!!

You all must be on a list of specials. The special 100 clients maybe. Somehow I cannot get on that list since last 8 months. Turns out Sara is still looking into my references. I called my references and they keep telling me they never heard from any Sara. Finally I emailed Sara and told that I'd have managed to see the queen of england by now (LOL) and Thank you for once and all. Only if I could ignore/block her profile on es****.com. Frustrating to see all of these great reviews about her while I am having no luck at all. I'm sure she is a nice girl and hope I'm the only one having issues!

Dillsborodave- Your review just reminded me of my plight! Ouch!

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave]Visited Sara last night and had another wonderful time. She informed me that she is only going to be available every other weekend. Starting with this weekend. So mark your calanders and keep track of the Tongue Twister cycle and the phases of the moon. Sara + Full moon = WOW![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave]Visited Sara last night and had another wonderful time. She informed me that she is only going to be available every other weekend. Starting with this weekend. So mark your calanders and keep track of the Tongue Twister cycle and the phases of the moon. Sara + Full moon = WOW![/QUOTE]Thanks Dave:)

I just wanted to clarify my schedule because your posts sounds like I am ONLY available every other weekend. I am available all days from 9 a. M to 5p. M and evenings every other weekend. I am VERY strict with references, so if you contact me please have reliable references ready that I can contact via direct website (not email addresses as anyone can make up a false email address).

Thanks,

Sara

You all must be on a list of specials. The special 100 clients maybe. Somehow I cannot get on that list since last 8 months. Turns out Sara is still looking into my references. I called my references and they keep telling me they never heard from any Sara. Finally I emailed Sara and told that I'd have managed to see the queen of england by now (LOL) and Thank you for once and all. Only if I could ignore/block her profile on es****.com. Frustrating to see all of these great reviews about her while I am having no luck at all. I'm sure she is a nice girl and hope I'm the only one having issues!

Dillsborodave- Your review just reminded me of my plight! Ouch!

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave]Visited Sara last night and had another wonderful time. She informed me that she is only going to be available every other weekend. Starting with this weekend. So mark your calanders and keep track of the Tongue Twister cycle and the phases of the moon. Sara + Full moon = WOW![/QUOTE]

Bl, I have had the same results with Sara as well. I have seen practically everyone in the city worth seeing, as well as visiting, and have had no luck as well. I just saw a regular, who I used as a ref, and she said that she never heard from Sara. Can't quite figure it out.

[QUOTE=Babelover77]You all must be on a list of specials. The special 100 clients maybe. Somehow I cannot get on that list since last 8 months. Turns out Sara is still looking into my references. I called my references and they keep telling me they never heard from any Sara. Finally I emailed Sara and told that I'd have managed to see the queen of england by now (LOL) and Thank you for once and all. Only if I could ignore/block her profile on es****.com. Frustrating to see all of these great reviews about her while I am having no luck at all. I'm sure she is a nice girl and hope I'm the only one having issues!

Dillsborodave- Your review just reminded me of my plight! Ouch![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoffbarr]Bl, I have had the same results with Sara as well. I have seen practically everyone in the city worth seeing, as well as visiting, and have had no luck as well. I just saw a regular, who I used as a ref, and she said that she never heard from Sara. Can't quite figure it out.[/QUOTE]
As a hobbyist, I can certainly appreciate your frustration as it pertains to providers checking references and so forth because each of us have experienced it in one form or another. I would encourage everyone to continue to work at earning Sara's trust. I can tell you first hand that she's very conscientious and mature in her approach to the hobby which at times may seem more deliberate than others. In addition, she's been out of town for a bit. I won't restate the obvious from this board which is her sessions are outstanding (recently visited with her) but great things will come to those who wait!

Stay safe (and patient)!

[B]This is a repost from another forum to let you beware that this happens everywhere, big city, small city, and it is a racket, and they really don't care about you or repeat business.

Still, it is you that makes the CALL, and you are in control of your MONEY. At least I hope YOU are!
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Member #2128

Senior Member

Reports: 125

Upsellers: S. O. P.

I feel you Dac007.
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Upselling is part of the game for some of these girls. They don't care about repeat business. They figure they want to harvest as much green as they can with each client, period. Once they get you and your boy going, they think they can shift into upsell mode-a little bit at a time until they've doubled or tripled their take on what they've agreed to. $25 more for this. $25 more for that. And so it goes. Each $25 adds up until it's $100. Or in my case, she was thinking even bigger. She told me she can make up to $6, 000/day if she works it right! A total hustler! It happens. It's a risk of the game.

I've learned to go more ghetto. Good homegirls who need the cash for bills, not drugs, and are willing and able to provide pleasing, full and friendly service to an appreciative client without the hassle or the hustle. Maybe I've been lucky. All I'm saying, is it works for me. YMMV. As always.
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[Quote=Dac007]That's why I don't see pregnant girls, they have too many moodswings and bad days.

While searching for your Carmen on BP, I noticed a familiar face, the skank that robbed me a few months ago is now going by Carmen. Look at my post below from April for the info on this piece of shit and avoid.

[url]http://orangecounty.backpage.com/Fe. Now-22/11045182[/url]

[url]http://www.Usasexguide.info/forum/s. 4&postcount=604[/url][/quote]

Maybe the problem getting Sara's attention has nothing to do with who is requesting to see her but more to do with the number of requests she receives and her limited availability as Dillsborodave pointed out.
[QUOTE=Dillsborodave] *** Sara *** informed me that she is only going to be available every other weekend. *** [/QUOTE]
Maybe Sara has family around and cannot spend unlimited time checking references and responding to emails. Some women receive a 100 of emails a day. Maybe with limited availability the regulars she's screened already and who support her get first attention. Maybe she is doing the best she can. My bet is she feels badly there's not enough of her to go around.

Easy for me to say, I've not been emailing her, but it makes sense to me.

Goes by Nikki or Nikkie. She advertises on Backpage.com. Ripped me off tonight for $360. She was way not worth that much (looked nothing like her picture. Maybe a 6 out of 10 in looks and the picture looked like an 8). She is a fast talked. Told me $200 at first then tried to upsell me. She came to my hotel room, met with me. Talked for a while. I gave her the money and she dashed on me. Her back was towards the door. She does only outcall 513-638-8595 is her number. Watch out for this one.

Cash and Dash

Add to that fact that maybe she only wishes to see ESTABLISHED and SENIOR members. Understand that bonivide providers do not have to see every Tom, Dick or Harry. (Or is that every Tom's Harry Dick??!!) It is their choice if they choose to see or not to see someone. So don't get bent out of shape if she or other's don't reply in the affirmative to you.
And what Golfcart mentioned as a summary is pretty close to the truth. I believe her established clients keep her schedule pretty full during her hours of availability. God knows it what be wonderful to clone a dozen of this wonderful woman to keep everyone happy! But last time I checked, that isn't going to happen.

Wingman

[QUOTE=Golfcart]Maybe the problem getting Sara's attention has nothing to do with who is requesting to see her but more to do with the number of requests she receives and her limited availability as Dillsborodave pointed out.

Maybe Sara has family around and cannot spend unlimited time checking references and responding to emails. Some women receive a 100 of emails a day. Maybe with limited availability the regulars she's screened already and who support her get first attention. Maybe she is doing the best she can. My bet is she feels badly there's not enough of her to go around.

Easy for me to say, I've not been emailing her, but it makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]

I just don't understand the amount of provider chasing that goes on. There are plenty of good providers out there. Why would you even consider seeing a provider that goes months without responding to your request for an appointment? If you gave quality references and she didn't have the decency to even verify them, why in the world would you want to give her your hard earned money. If your auto repairman didn’t call back for months would you still send him work? If your barber/hair stylist didn’t call you back for months would you still go there and spend money. I don’t think so! Why do it with a provider? Just doesn’t make sense to me.

It's that attitude that allows some of these girls to take advantage of hobbyist. If after two attempted contacts with no positive results or meaningful contact I move on.

Don’t forget that quality service is not just what happens behind close doors. (Wasn’t that a country song? LOL!) It begins at the initial contact and continues through future encounters.

No provider, I REPEAT! No provider is worth a hobbyists accepting less than quality service from initial contact through future encounters just for the right to give her your money for crappy service. If you don’t believe this you are selling yourself way too short and providers will continue to take advantage of you and take your money and treat you with less and less respect as time goes on. Why wouldn’t they if you let them? They are just in it for the money and the easier you make it on them the more they will take advantage of you.

If the hobbyist would take their hard earned money elsewhere these types of providers would pick up their service to an acceptable level. Once their list of regulars dwindled to a less than acceptable level then they would either provide better service or get out of the business, either way the hobbyist would be no worse off.

Remember guys we have what they want. OUR MONEY! There are a plethora of providers out there to choose from. Choose wisely and avoid the scammers and the users.

Just my humble opinion,


KG






[QUOTE=Hoffbarr]Bl, I have had the same results with Sara as well. I have seen practically everyone in the city worth seeing, as well as visiting, and have had no luck as well. I just saw a regular, who I used as a ref, and she said that she never heard from Sara. Can't quite figure it out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Babelover77]You all must be on a list of specials. The special 100 clients maybe. Somehow I cannot get on that list since last 8 months. Turns out Sara is still looking into my references. I called my references and they keep telling me they never heard from any Sara. Finally I emailed Sara and told that I'd have managed to see the queen of england by now (LOL) and Thank you for once and all. Only if I could ignore/block her profile on es****.com. Frustrating to see all of these great reviews about her while I am having no luck at all. I'm sure she is a nice girl and hope I'm the only one having issues!

Dillsborodave- Your review just reminded me of my plight! Ouch![/QUOTE]I am responding to the current posts about me. As for Babelover, and everyone else I am always quick to respond to emails as best as I can- whether it's to say I'm sorry but I am not seeing anyone new at this time or an invite. It isn't the case that Babelover has never received a response from me because I have sent him several responses over the last 8 months through this site and my email address. I initially declined for lack of references.

Yes, I can be a pain in the butt because I am also very particular on the references I accept. It is difficult to screen through some websites where you can't directly look up the clients info and then you have to rely on making calls to providers who don't always return phone calls. I do not accept references with only email addresses as I like to contact the provider directly via website to make sure she is just as real as the client because anyone can make up a fake email address. I have declined Babelover several times as well as others and I apologized in that email and tried to reassure them that I am just very precautious and it is nothing personal against them.

I do fully understand that I can be frustrating to many because it is difficult to make an appointment with me with little references or lack of website contactable references. While I am thankful for the ladies that are brave enough to let the newbies get their foot in the door. I am not that brave and still get nervous about those who only have 2 references.

I do have a large regular client base, but it does not prevent me from seeing those I have not seen before with dependable references.

As for NKYKinkyguy

I am unsure of the meaning underlining your post, but if I personally was all about the money then I would not be as tough of a screener as I am. If I were all about the money, then I wouldn't put safety and precaution first, as I do, and would agree to see any Tom, Dick, or Harry that inquired about me. I do not see as many clients as many would think because I still decline MANY on a regular basis-due to precaution and lack of dependable references. So safety comes first and money second. I am not considered high volume as I see on average between 1 and 3 people a day because I like atleast an hour in between visits so I'm not rushing anyone out the door. Also, if I were more about the money, then I would post multiple advertisements but I prefer low volume and to stay as utr as possible. I did not take your response as a personal attack and have nothing personally against you, but I wanted to respond to your statement about me. I do get your advice that you gave about how their are alot of fish in the sea and it's good advice given.

For all it's worth I may be a pain in the butt screener, but atleast I put safety for all first. I don't post or give out my number until I have referenced a client and as I said you will not not find advertisement posts from me as I prefer to stay as utr as possible and for some people it may be too much initial work, but those that have contacted me with a list of dependable references I can contact via website (not email address) have not had any problems setting meetings with me. No matter the case, I always respond to client emails whether it's to decline or accept. (with the exception sometimes of inquiries that simply say something very generic like "Hey baby, I want to meet you" and then simply leave a number and no other info. I don't always respond to those anymore because they add up and can be very time consuming.

Babelover, I have tried several times to assure you that it's nothing personal against you and that I am just VERY precautious and I find it unfortunate that it sounds like you are taking my decline as personal. I wish you wouldn't. I am not the "Queen of England" just simply a very precautious provider. Is that such a bad thing?

Sara

Aka Tonguetwister

[QUOTE=Golfcart]Maybe the problem getting Sara's attention has nothing to do with who is requesting to see her but more to do with the number of requests she receives and her limited availability as Dillsborodave pointed out.

Maybe Sara has family around and cannot spend unlimited time checking references and responding to emails. Some women receive a 100 of emails a day. Maybe with limited availability the regulars she's screened already and who support her get first attention. Maybe she is doing the best she can. My bet is she feels badly there's not enough of her to go around.

Easy for me to say, I've not been emailing her, but it makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Golfcart]Maybe the problem getting Sara's attention has nothing to do with who is requesting to see her but more to do with the number of requests she receives and her limited availability as Dillsborodave pointed out.

Maybe Sara has family around and cannot spend unlimited time checking references and responding to emails. Some women receive a 100 of emails a day. Maybe with limited availability the regulars she's screened already and who support her get first attention. Maybe she is doing the best she can. My bet is she feels badly there's not enough of her to go around.

Easy for me to say, I've not been emailing her, but it makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]

For safety reasons, I do not take anything to work with me including my computer. I check my emails in the morning before I go to work and when I return home but I still always respond to emails as soon as I get them whether its to decline or accept. And yes, Golfcart thank you, I do try to do the best I can. It can be difficult with family to spend alot of time on the computer and that is why I gave up on responding to those who email me with generic "Hey baby I want to meet you" and no other info except for a phone number uuuggghhh.

Also, wanted to point out again that my availability is not only every other weekend as Dillsboro Dave stated. Dave is correct, but wrote it in a way that sounds like that is my only availability. For awhile I was available every weekend evening and now I am back to only every other weekend evening in addition to my all weekdays schedule during daytime hours which has never changed.

So Dave, for the confusion, remember that lapdance I teased you about giving me...? Well, after this I will have your garter belt and thigh highs and I will anticipate a strip tease from you, lol, jk.

Sara
aka Tonguetwister

Since my stock seems to have skyrocketed up . . .
[QUOTE=Tonguetwister] *** And yes, Golfcart thank you, I do try to do the best I can. ***
Sara aka Tonguetwister[/QUOTE]
. . . permit me to make a suggestion to all who want to see Sara. This is based upon my own experience in the hobby

An initial contact by phone is a formula for failure unless her site requests an initial call be by phone. Most ladies will not pick up on a call she does not recognize. Your call will flip to voice mail. She may get far more voice messages than she can handle. So here you sit, a mere phone number on a list looking like every other number. Being in a group of messages is not much better. You want an appointment, the idea is to stand out (in a good way) but you don’t stand out. Her dance card will be filled from the top and you may not be near the top. A phone call approach is problematic in so many ways.

Consider what you know. Her post told you when she will be available. You have read her site and her reviews. If you have not made a decision to schedule her at that point, any contact, however it is done, is premature and will damage you. Ladies don’t like telephone studs or email studs because they are tire-kickers.

Don’t ask any questions. Questions will get you in trouble faster than anything. Questions cause her wall to go up. If she wanted you to know that information, if she thought it was important, she would have put that information on her site. Ladies don’t like questions. Ladies like guys who are schedulers. Schedulers stand out.

This is a very sensitive situation. Questions are so bad that if you absolutely have to ask a question, if it is that important to you, then you are better off not seeing her. Find another lady instead. You having a question you must have answered is the equivalent of her having pictures you find unattractive. Click on.

So when you have made your decision, send her an email. In the subject box put the date and time you want and nothing more. When she opens her inbox and sees a list of bold unread emails, hard telling where you are on that list, but your subject box she sees listed with the others will probably be the only one showing a date and time. You stand out from the tire-kickers. In the text box say how you found her, give her your references and say how long an appointment you want. If she has a contact form you are not using, include that information. Then stop. Leave out how hot she is and the other BS. She hears BS all the time.

Oh, yes, send that email out late at night so it will be at the top in the morning. And be sure and observe Sara's availability as she has stated it: In case there is any doubt . . .
[QUOTE=Tonguetwister] ***
Also, wanted to point out again that my availability is not only every other weekend as Dillsboro Dave stated. Dave is correct, but wrote it in a way that sounds like that is my only availability. For awhile I was available every weekend evening and now I am back to only every other weekend evening in addition to my all weekdays schedule during daytime hours which has never changed. ***
Sara aka Tonguetwister[/QUOTE]
Bet I would have no trouble getting a date with Sara if I observed my own advice and treated her to a ride in my golfcart.

[QUOTE=Nday Guy]Called her around 10:00 AM and set an appointment for 11:30. She does not drive and asked me to pick her up at a public location in a busy area. I read about this before so I was OK with that. We drove to a typical motel a few miles away and then the fun began. Once she checked in she called me. I was waiting a little ways away. $75 for a great massage and FS with all the trimmings including multiple trips to heaven. The massage was not just a quick back rub, but a nice long massage. I had a great time. No need to drive her back home as she kept the room.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nday Guy. I had a great time too and look forward to seeing you again.

Thanks again and take care.

Nkykinkyguy, Right on brother. Right on! Very well said! If I would have heard from Sara in January that she doesn't want to see me until I send her a reference that she can communicate via E.com website directly, BOOM!. I would have worked on just that or moved on! What I actually got was a runaround and you are right, theres so much out there, why would I loose my mind over any particular provider!

Now, about all-mighty all-famous Wingman's post. Who is not some ordinary Tom, Dick or Harry. When I described my particular experience.

1. Did I mean to share my frustration?. Yes!

2. Did I call someone names?. No

3. Was I talking out of my a**?. No

4. Did my text suggest that I was bent out of shape. Hell NO!

Now, having said that, am I able to empathize with someone else's situation?. Absolutely Yes!

Sara, nothing against you personally (I've said this before). Its totally up to you to decide who you want to see and who you don't. The decision should be conveyed directly. It'd be helpful for both parties. Thats all is needed to rid you from all these troublemakers (including myself I suppose, LOL). If you are not accepting new clients as someone suggested here that you already might have a full-schedule, just make the following changes to your profile on Escorts.com.

1. Highlight clearly that you are NOT accepting new clients or

2. Just articulate your strict "must-be-met" expectations clearly

I just wanted to share my experience after seeing Dave's post and I am glad you did share your perspective as well. I take it that there maybe some misunderstanding on my part and I am sorry for that in advance.

I just didn't appreciate Wingman's rude post on this (with all due respect to your seniority here Sir).

Golfcart, your guidance makes sense as well.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Nkykinkyguy]I just don't understand the amount of provider chasing that goes on. There are plenty of good providers out there. Why would you even consider seeing a provider that goes months without responding to your request for an appointment? If you gave quality references and she didn't have the decency to even verify them, why in the world would you want to give her your hard earned money. If your auto repairman didn’t call back for months would you still send him work? If your barber/hair stylist didn’t call you back for months would you still go there and spend money. I don’t think so! Why do it with a provider? Just doesn’t make sense to me.

It's that attitude that allows some of these girls to take advantage of hobbyist. If after two attempted contacts with no positive results or meaningful contact I move on.

Don’t forget that quality service is not just what happens behind close doors. (Wasn’t that a country song? LOL!) It begins at the initial contact and continues through future encounters.

No provider, I REPEAT! No provider is worth a hobbyists accepting less than quality service from initial contact through future encounters just for the right to give her your money for crappy service. If you don’t believe this you are selling yourself way too short and providers will continue to take advantage of you and take your money and treat you with less and less respect as time goes on. Why wouldn’t they if you let them? They are just in it for the money and the easier you make it on them the more they will take advantage of you.

If the hobbyist would take their hard earned money elsewhere these types of providers would pick up their service to an acceptable level. Once their list of regulars dwindled to a less than acceptable level then they would either provide better service or get out of the business, either way the hobbyist would be no worse off.

Remember guys we have what they want. OUR MONEY! There are a plethora of providers out there to choose from. Choose wisely and avoid the scammers and the users.

Just my humble opinion,

KG[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Babelover77]You all must be on a list of specials. The special 100 clients maybe. Somehow I cannot get on that list since last 8 months.

The bottom line is yes, I can be a pain in the butt screener to many...but is that such a bad thing being an precautious screener? It is more difficult to screen those who contact me through websites and email addresses where I cannot verify their legitimacy. In addition, I like to check into the providers that are given as references as well so I can make sure she is also legit.

I am picky about references and prefer more info than simply their number and Yahoo address because really ANYONE can make up a fake providers name and set up a fake email account for them. I feel much better contacting references directly through a legit website and not a Yahoo account.
Screening is not always easy for those of us that screen heavily. It can be difficult for providers if other providers do not return phone calls or emails for verification. Some providers are great screeners like I am, but their are also providers who don't screen at all and when I see their names listed as a reference it makes me nervous to be honest. I do the best that I can to be safe and therefore that keeps others safe.
In Babelovers case, I declined many times for lack of references. It is not as if I never responded to his emails. In fact, I have sent him many emails over the months explaining to him that I apologize and it's nothing personal against him and letting him know I am just a precautious screener. There are many brave providers that will see newbies and I appreciate that because they allow newbies a chance set foot in the door, I am simply not that brave in this area. It is unfortunate Babelover as it seems you are taking my declines personal when you really shouldn't. To answer your question, you are by far not the only I have declined several times for lack of references or in some cases dependable references.
I do not think I am "the queen of England" but simply a provider who tries to remain as safe as possible and tries to remain as utr as possible. I do not post advertisements anywhere or even publicly list or give out my phone number until after I have referenced and that should give hint to everyone that I may be initially difficult to arrange a meeting with without dependable references. Then again, there are many that are ready with multiple and dependable references that have had no problems at all.
Precautions are important to me and I value my safety as well as the wonderful people (other providers and clients) that I have encountered.
Bottom line- again stop taking this all personal Babelover because it is nothing personal against you. Screening is not always an easy task either.
Sara
xoxo

Nky,
You are out of line on this one pal! You have met Sara at one of our dinners and you know this woman is class thru and thru!
Does every provider have to see every hobbist that contacts her? No. It is her decision and of course her body that she is putting out there. Granted, Sara has many awesome reviews. So does Nikki_6. But that doesn't mean either will see just anyone. Yes, our money is importnat to them, but so is their self respect ..... which is probably larger in quality providers. So, what I am saying is that if they are not comfortable with the hobbyists who contacts them, it is their choice. And you should just move on to the next on your list. I need not to add anything more about Sara!
WM

[QUOTE=Nkykinkyguy]I just don't understand the amount of provider chasing that goes on. There are plenty of good providers out there. Why would you even consider seeing a provider that goes months without responding to your request for an appointment? If you gave quality references and she didn't have the decency to even verify them, why in the world would you want to give her your hard earned money. If your auto repairman didn’t call back for months would you still send him work? If your barber/hair stylist didn’t call you back for months would you still go there and spend money. I don’t think so! Why do it with a provider? Just doesn’t make sense to me.

It's that attitude that allows some of these girls to take advantage of hobbyist. If after two attempted contacts with no positive results or meaningful contact I move on.

Don’t forget that quality service is not just what happens behind close doors. (Wasn’t that a country song? LOL!) It begins at the initial contact and continues through future encounters.

No provider, I REPEAT! No provider is worth a hobbyists accepting less than quality service from initial contact through future encounters just for the right to give her your money for crappy service. If you don’t believe this you are selling yourself way too short and providers will continue to take advantage of you and take your money and treat you with less and less respect as time goes on. Why wouldn’t they if you let them? They are just in it for the money and the easier you make it on them the more they will take advantage of you.

If the hobbyist would take their hard earned money elsewhere these types of providers would pick up their service to an acceptable level. Once their list of regulars dwindled to a less than acceptable level then they would either provide better service or get out of the business, either way the hobbyist would be no worse off.

Remember guys we have what they want. OUR MONEY! There are a plethora of providers out there to choose from. Choose wisely and avoid the scammers and the users.

Just my humble opinion,


KG[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nkykinkyguy]I just don't understand the amount of provider chasing that goes on. There are plenty of good providers out there. Why would you even consider seeing a provider that goes months without responding to your request for an appointment? If you gave quality references and she didn't have the decency to even verify them, why in the world would you want to give her your hard earned money. If your auto repairman didn’t call back for months would you still send him work? If your barber/hair stylist didn’t call you back for months would you still go there and spend money. I don’t think so! Why do it with a provider? Just doesn’t make sense to me.

It's that attitude that allows some of these girls to take advantage of hobbyist. If after two attempted contacts with no positive results or meaningful contact I move on.

Don’t forget that quality service is not just what happens behind close doors. (Wasn’t that a country song? LOL!) It begins at the initial contact and continues through future encounters.

No provider, I REPEAT! No provider is worth a hobbyists accepting less than quality service from initial contact through future encounters just for the right to give her your money for crappy service. If you don’t believe this you are selling yourself way too short and providers will continue to take advantage of you and take your money and treat you with less and less respect as time goes on. Why wouldn’t they if you let them? They are just in it for the money and the easier you make it on them the more they will take advantage of you.

If the hobbyist would take their hard earned money elsewhere these types of providers would pick up their service to an acceptable level. Once their list of regulars dwindled to a less than acceptable level then they would either provide better service or get out of the business, either way the hobbyist would be no worse off.

Remember guys we have what they want. OUR MONEY! There are a plethora of providers out there to choose from. Choose wisely and avoid the scammers and the users.

Just my humble opinion
KG[/QUOTE]

In response to NKYKinkyguy,
I am unsure of your meaning in your posts. However, I do not fall into the category of the above and therefore do not take it personally. I have repeatedly responded to Babelovers emails. In addition, I always respond to emails as soon as I get them whether it's to say I'm sorry, but I must decline at this time or to accept a meeting (I admit in cases lately however I don't always respond back to those who leave a generic message and simply say "hey baby, I want to meet and here's my number with no other info to go on because those are very time consuming)
I am not "all about the money" if I were I would agree to see every Tom, Dick, and Harry that emailed me but that is not the case as I put safety first and continue to decline many on a daily basis for lack of dependable references-but I always respond with an answer. I do not see as many people as some may think because I choose to stay as utr as possible (notice I never post advertisements or even give out my phone number until after I have referenced). For me, all around safety comes before money. I have many wonderful regulars and they appreciate that I do everything I can to protect them as well as myself (and that is just a part of my quality service that I give my regulars everytime).
This is not a personal attack against you but a clarification to your posts.
I do agree with your advice that their are many fish in the sea and if one fish won't bite then you can always explore elsewhere.
Yes, I may be a pain in the butt screener in some cases as I have said before, but I always try to let everyone know it is nothing personal and I just like to be precautious. I don't think that's such a bad thing.
Sara
aka Tonguetwister

Mentioned to Sara last Friday i had not seen her mentioned much on this board lately. Well you can't say that anymore!! Yes Sara you deserve a good lap dance for the shit i seemed to stir up but i am bringing my own music.

Met with this low volume slightly UTR lady last week, in the hamilton / fairfield area, and had a wonderful time. She sent me a message there some time ago, but was reluctant to reply, as there are lots of scammers on that site, and her posted rate was out of my comfort zone.

I had some time, and the urge, so I figured "what the hell". I sent her a message, said I was interested, but diplomatically said that I wasn't able to go for the posted rate (at the time, it was 3. 5). Told her what I felt comfortable with, and she responded to my e-mail, that she was sure we could meet within my budgetary constraints.

She asked for some basic info, to make her feel comfortable with me, which I provided, we scheduled a time, and it was GAME ON!

Dana is low volume, has real employment, but does this for fun, and the money, in that order. We met at the appointed time and place, no hassles, and got a room. We shared a couple of beers, the got to the main event. All normal activities are on the menu, and she loves giving as much as receiving, and is very responsive. She is especially adept at providing french lessons; the girl doesn't seem to have a gag reflex! From there, to a couple of different positions, to my completion (she's had 2 or 3 by that point) rested, talked, cuddled, then she tried to get jr. Interested again, but due to my age, was unable to raise the flag again (damn, I hate it when jr. Doesn't cooperate!)

I would def see her again, and would ask that you guys treat her right, as she's still feeling her way in this hobby.

Pics don't do her justice. She's a hot MILF, with legs that go all the way up. 5'10 tall, enhanced boobs (not my thing, but they work for her) great smile and a wicked sense of humor!

Have fun, be safe

Tk6969

Don't mean to clutter the board here (defeats the purpose of the board in some ways), would like to take this offline 1-1 w/Sara (no pun intended,.).

[QUOTE=Tonguetwister][QUOTE=Babelover77]You all must be on a list of specials. The special 100 clients maybe. Somehow I cannot get on that list since last 8 months.

The bottom line is yes, I can be a pain in the butt screener to many. But is that such a bad thing being an precautious screener? It is more difficult to screen those who contact me through websites and email addresses where I cannot verify their legitimacy. In addition, I like to check into the providers that are given as references as well so I can make sure she is also legit.

I am picky about references and prefer more info than simply their number and Yahoo address because really ANYONE can make up a fake providers name and set up a fake email account for them. I feel much better contacting references directly through a legit website and not a Yahoo account.

Screening is not always easy for those of us that screen heavily. It can be difficult for providers if other providers do not return phone calls or emails for verification. Some providers are great screeners like I am, but their are also providers who don't screen at all and when I see their names listed as a reference it makes me nervous to be honest. I do the best that I can to be safe and therefore that keeps others safe.

In Babelovers case, I declined many times for lack of references. It is not as if I never responded to his emails. In fact, I have sent him many emails over the months explaining to him that I apologize and it's nothing personal against him and letting him know I am just a precautious screener. There are many brave providers that will see newbies and I appreciate that because they allow newbies a chance set foot in the door, I am simply not that brave in this area. It is unfortunate Babelover as it seems you are taking my declines personal when you really shouldn't. To answer your question, you are by far not the only I have declined several times for lack of references or in some cases dependable references.

I do not think I am "the queen of England" but simply a provider who tries to remain as safe as possible and tries to remain as utr as possible. I do not post advertisements anywhere or even publicly list or give out my phone number until after I have referenced and that should give hint to everyone that I may be initially difficult to arrange a meeting with without dependable references. Then again, there are many that are ready with multiple and dependable references that have had no problems at all.

Precautions are important to me and I value my safety as well as the wonderful people (other providers and clients) that I have encountered.

Bottom line- again stop taking this all personal Babelover because it is nothing personal against you. Screening is not always an easy task either.

Sara

Xoxo[/QUOTE]

Is she gone already?

I tried once and got an email response now no more.

Does anybody have any info?

Rude remarks? REALLY! I think Sara's numerous comments and replies recently made validate the point I was making. Those who have been around and have seen past comments regarding TongueTwister, know how serious she is in her screening. I personally can attest to her sincerity and professional approach to this hobby. She by far is one of the most wonderful women I have ever known. But, that said, not all will pass muster with her. Don't take it personally. Those who are nubies can search the name TongueTwister and read about past reviews and comments on your own. But now this has been hashed around enough. Time to move on.

WM

BTW, no rudeness was implied or intended.

[QUOTE=Babelover77]Nkykinkyguy, Right on brother. Right on! Very well said! If I would have heard from Sara in January that she doesn't want to see me until I send her a reference that she can communicate via E.com website directly, BOOM!. I would have worked on just that or moved on! What I actually got was a runaround and you are right, theres so much out there, why would I loose my mind over any particular provider!

Now, about all-mighty all-famous Wingman's post. Who is not some ordinary Tom, Dick or Harry. When I described my particular experience.

Sara, nothing against you personally (I've said this before). Its totally up to you to decide who you want to see and who you don't. The decision should be conveyed directly. It'd be helpful for both parties. Thats all is needed to rid you from all these troublemakers (including myself I suppose, LOL). If you are not accepting new clients as someone suggested here that you already might have a full-schedule, just make the following changes to your profile on Escorts.com.

1. Highlight clearly that you are NOT accepting new clients or

2. Just articulate your strict "must-be-met" expectations clearly

I just wanted to share my experience after seeing Dave's post and I am glad you did share your perspective as well. I take it that there maybe some misunderstanding on my part and I am sorry for that in advance.

I just didn't appreciate Wingman's rude post on this (with all due respect to your seniority here Sir).

Golfcart, your guidance makes sense as well.

Cheers[/QUOTE]