[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aaf8c496-a79f-417f-bd07-73b78f2412f2[/URL]
Wants 900 ppm.
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[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aaf8c496-a79f-417f-bd07-73b78f2412f2[/URL]
Wants 900 ppm.
This one messaged me this morning and we switched to text: Charlotteludi1 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5d4763e-602e-47a7-b51a-44b2be144ada[/URL].
She says she is over in the U. K. At the present time collecting her $12.5 Million dollars inheritance from her Dad passing away. Odd since her last login says she is in the States. Hope it's true so I can be her SB! But I think we all know how this one is going to work out. Anyone else getting the same story?
Just means she wants no dates, not serious and she won't be on for long
[QUOTE=GeechieDan;5554754][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aaf8c496-a79f-417f-bd07-73b78f2412f2[/URL]
Wants 900 ppm.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5557407]This one messaged me this morning and we switched to text: Charlotteludi1 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5d4763e-602e-47a7-b51a-44b2be144ada[/URL].
She says she is over in the U. K. At the present time collecting her $12.5 Million dollars inheritance from her Dad passing away. Odd since her last login says she is in the States. Hope it's true so I can be her SB! But I think we all know how this one is going to work out. Anyone else getting the same story?[/QUOTE]Stay away from this one guys. Reverse image search of her profile pic and the ones she will text you are of a Brazilian porn star named Janessa Brazil. Asked her what time it was in Leeds where she says she is and she said EST. Complete scammer.
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5558111]Stay away from this one guys. Reverse image search of her profile pic and the ones she will text you are of a Brazilian porn star named Janessa Brazil. Asked her what time it was in Leeds where she says she is and she said EST. Complete scammer.[/QUOTE]Pretty face with average body seems to be the common thread of scammers.
Powhatan would also set off my spidey senses -- why wouldn't you just put RVA? As if anyone we searching in Powhatan.
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5557407]This one messaged me this morning and we switched to text: Charlotteludi1 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5d4763e-602e-47a7-b51a-44b2be144ada[/URL].
She says she is over in the U. K. At the present time collecting her $12.5 Million dollars inheritance from her Dad passing away. Odd since her last login says she is in the States. Hope it's true so I can be her SB! But I think we all know how this one is going to work out. Anyone else getting the same story?[/QUOTE]Same text number or a chic with a profile named Charlotte, The chick under the original profile has sent many pics an has never asked for anything. Says she is an army nurse. Kinda crazy, the new profile is a wack job, I have been scamming her back and forth. LOL.
It's fun to scam the dumb scammer. LOL 😂.
So this is strange. I was logged out of my SA account. I forogt my password and had it reset. I typed in new password and SA sent out a code because I have two factor authentication. I never got it. My first question is does SA no longer send text to Google Voice numbers anymore?
Well I decided to create a new profile. I have filled out everything and put in pictures in my private pictures area. However, for some reason my profile was empty and it was saying profile incomplete. It said I was missing a picture which I already had two in my private area. When I put a pic in public picture I was able to view profile and you could read all of my descriptions. However, as soon as I took that pic to private it it head all of my text in profiie. So do I need to have public photo showing to have women view my profile?
She is actually in Radford VA about 3+ hours away, not Richmond [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad717f6c-b5dc-4f1a-8ff8-70375f35a815[/URL].
Fun to talk to and seems DTF if you're the traveling type.
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5563089]She is actually in Radford VA about 3+ hours away, not Richmond [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad717f6c-b5dc-4f1a-8ff8-70375f35a815[/URL].
Fun to talk to and seems DTF if you're the traveling type.[/QUOTE]Edit: She has since updated her location to Roanoke. Guess she got a lot of pushback.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e3af44b-8c78-4f71-8c26-b8025d94b3ac[/URL]
Everything was going well via text until she asked me to send her money upfront to show my "commitment". You have been warned.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bcf49d7c-0895-432b-a283-6b675fc7ce3b[/URL]
Katy lives in NOVA, but she had family down in Stafford. She drops her son there for babysitting on our weekend dates. Her pics are accurate. She doesn't have much of a chest or ass, and has a little bit of baby damage. I love the way she moves her hips gets me every time. She drives, and doesn't host. She was a new SB, but decided to drop her. She started coming to out dates high and not on weed. She kept saying she would stop. She going through some family problems, but still not a good reason to use the hard drugs. She was fun, but just didn't want to deal with someone on hard drugs. Hopefully, she slows down, before it becomes a real problem.
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5563089]She is actually in Radford VA about 3+ hours away, not Richmond [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad717f6c-b5dc-4f1a-8ff8-70375f35a815[/URL].
Fun to talk to and seems DTF if you're the traveling type.[/QUOTE]And she gave me the "I'm definitely down to meet up, but I like to start online for a few weeks to get to know each other better". Funny how they all disappear when I say I'm happy to chat and get to know each other and then once we get together then we can discuss allowance or whatever. Hopefully others are having better luck.
[QUOTE=GeechieDan;5554754][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aaf8c496-a79f-417f-bd07-73b78f2412f2[/URL]
Wants 900 ppm.[/QUOTE]She only quoted me 350, but I had to show her a picture first.
I've had a couple of friends through the years. My situation is kinda unique so I haven't had much luck on the SB sites. In fact most of my friends came from AM. I've met a few ladies for one time visits since my last baby, but I'm looking for a more stable arrangement. Anyway, it's been a while since me last SB so I was dipping my toes in again and have even been on Red. It. My question is who is paying for these online only relationships or OF subscriptions. I've got five senses not two I want to experience the touch, smell and taste as well as the site and sound. If you only need sight and sound you can go to that hub site for free. Boy things have changed a lot lately.
[QUOTE=Doug22;5569419]I've had a couple of friends through the years. My situation is kinda unique so I haven't had much luck on the SB sites. In fact most of my friends came from AM. I've met a few ladies for one time visits since my last baby, but I'm looking for a more stable arrangement. Anyway, it's been a while since me last SB so I was dipping my toes in again and have even been on Red. It. My question is who is paying for these online only relationships or OF subscriptions. I've got five senses not two I want to experience the touch, smell and taste as well as the site and sound. If you only need sight and sound you can go to that hub site for free. Boy things have changed a lot lately.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing that, for the mos part, it is the new crop of mongers that have gone through their first divorce, have disposable income or just wandered into the hobby from internet searches. This is the problem with the hobby these days. Dudes who don't understand the game, etc. Way too many Simps out there that will pay whatever a girl asks.
Some theorize that the Pandemic free flowing funds had something to do with it. Once restrictions were lifted there still was a lot of Stimi $ sloshing around and lonely dudes went to spend it on hookers they found while doing bored lockdown searches. They found the girls, they didn't find the education. Girls only do that stuff and ask for high rates because some Simp was paying it.
But part of this is the fault of WYP a sister site to SA that VERY EMPHATICALLY points out that sex should not be expected on a date. So many desperate Simps sign up and pay girls for essentially companionship. Here's $200 to eat my food and drink alcohol I paid for, and perhaps ypu'll fuck me later? Some of those girls graduate to SA with the same attitude. Also, SA doesn't help matters either.
But the sites don't help matters either. In order to have paying guys, you have to have GIRLS! So they paint a picture of easy riches, lavish life styles, etc to get women to join. It is amazing how many girls get sucked in by this illusion.
A current SB, college educated, signed up because she bought the "lavish lifestyle" shtick SA promotes. No critical thinking out there these days. Shoot, I went round and round with a hood rat that, even after a $200 FC visit, was convinced she should get $2,000/ month "allowance" PLUS shopping trips, dinners out, vacations, etc. Oh, and maybe once a week visit to her Apt, in the hood, for a one pop, everything covered date. These girls buy into the fantasy and the fact that a few Simps pay that only reinforces their "beliefs!
So like you mentioned, just say NO! If the majority of dudes stick to their guns, things may revert to where they were. Online is the only place you see this "Inflation. " One can still get head off the streets for 20-30 and FS for 40. AMPs for the most part are still 40/60-100. The "Internet Generation" is apparently good and finding stuff, but could use some help drilling down to the reality for prices and "how to" approach the hobby and stay safe.
So hang in there! Hopefully in 6-months we transition back a bit?
[QUOTE=BigOne73;5569375]She only quoted me 350, but I had to show her a picture first.[/QUOTE]Or she realized she was in the wrong market for that price. Who knows?
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5571734]
But part of this is the fault of WYP a sister site to SA that VERY EMPHATICALLY points out that sex should not be expected on a date. So many desperate Simps sign up and pay girls for essentially companionship. Here's $200 to eat my food and drink alcohol I paid for, and perhaps ypu'll fuck me later? Some of those girls graduate to SA with the same attitude. Also, SA doesn't help matters either.
But the sites don't help matters either. In order to have paying guys, you have to have GIRLS! So they paint a picture of easy riches, lavish life styles, etc to get women to join. It is amazing how many girls get sucked in by this illusion.
A current SB, college educated, signed up because she bought the "lavish lifestyle" shtick SA promotes. No critical thinking out there these days. Shoot, I went round and round with a hood rat that, even after a $200 FC visit, was convinced she should get $2,000/ month "allowance" PLUS shopping trips, dinners out, vacations, etc. Oh, and maybe once a week visit to her Apt, in the hood, for a one pop, everything covered date. These girls buy into the fantasy and the fact that a few Simps pay that only reinforces their "beliefs!
[/QUOTE]I agree the pandemic and proliferation of online services such as Only Fans and such has sped up the "decline" in the affordability and value equation in this industry / hobby. I believe, however, that it started after the fall of backpage and the institution of FOSTA / SESTA, which makes (some) websites liable for what their users post online. If a user of SA or WYP is overt about offering up or looking for sex for money, the website is liable and can be prosecuted for promoting prostitution. They have to shut that down in order to be allowed to continue to exist.
Recall when this site shut down immediately following this ruling? The owners did that in response to the new law, and emerged again, thankfully, under a new operating model.
Other sites take a different approach -- SA and WYP have to overtly say that the sites are for dating only, not for transactional arrangements. And since it's not against the law for a girl to want to find a rich, stupid guy to string along, some of them try (and succeed, it seems. A fool and his money and all that). But the savvy people who can read through the lines are able to find what they want. Just takes more wading through the muck than it used to.
Still, guys should hold the line. An "arrangement" for most people isn't "pretty girl gets gifts and money for existing. " Girls in today's society are so valued, pedestalized and fawned upon they need to be reminded that an arrangement is for both parties to trade what they have for what the other doesn't. I. e. Man shares his wealth, experience, mentorship (the things he has) in exchange for intimate time with a co-ed less than half his age (the things he doesn't have) AND the girl gets the things she doesn't have (wealth, experiences, advice, gifts) in exchange for sharing what she has (her youth, beauty, perfect body and carefree, fun companionship).
This is dead on.
BAM.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5571734]I'm guessing that, for the most part, it is the new crop of mongers that have gone through their first divorce, have disposable income or just wandered into the hobby from internet searches. This is the problem with the hobby these days. Dudes who don't understand the game, etc. Way too many Simps out there that will pay whatever a girl asks.
But the sites don't help matters either. In order to have paying guys, you have to have GIRLS! So they paint a picture of easy riches, lavish life styles, etc to get women to join. It is amazing how many girls get sucked in by this illusion.
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This one is in Lynchburg, which I understand is a little ways from Richmond (and further from me), but I have been interested in her for a bit and see she is back around. I get the suspicion she may be a lot of work or unreasonable expense, though. Anyone from this area ever met up with Rae in the past? I'll update here if I do.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1ebfa4f6-2d78-4eb8-93d3-71330cfb8ea9[/URL]
[QUOTE=Doug22;5569419]I've had a couple of friends through the years. My situation is kinda unique so I haven't had much luck on the SB sites. In fact most of my friends came from AM. I've met a few ladies for one time visits since my last baby, but I'm looking for a more stable arrangement. Anyway, it's been a while since me last SB so I was dipping my toes in again and have even been on Red. It. My question is who is paying for these online only relationships or OF subscriptions. I've got five senses not two I want to experience the touch, smell and taste as well as the site and sound. If you only need sight and sound you can go to that hub site for free. Boy things have changed a lot lately.[/QUOTE]Only think I ever got out of that site was DOXXED LOL. How'd ya manage to come by actual "friends" on AM?
[QUOTE=CantResist;5572594]This one is in Lynchburg, which I understand is a little ways from Richmond (and further from me), but I have been interested in her for a bit and see she is back around. I get the suspicion she may be a lot of work or unreasonable expense, though. Anyone from this area ever met up with Rae in the past? I'll update here if I do.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1ebfa4f6-2d78-4eb8-93d3-71330cfb8ea9[/URL][/QUOTE]She wreaks of GPS.
[QUOTE=GeechieDan;5574575]She wreaks of GPS.[/QUOTE]She's fake don't waste your time. She had a duplicate profile in Cary (I go between Raleigh and Richmond). She wouldn't take a verification snap / picture and wouldn't voice call. Blocked me when I requested either. Gives the baby sitter money upfront sob story too. Easiest way to crack the fake code is ask for a pic with 3-4 fingers up. Chances are any scammer won't have that as a stock photo of who they are posing as. I have seen at least 5 shitty editing jobs from different profiles of editing off fingers and things to meet my request in clearly stolen photos. Unless the scammer is a deep fake pro they can't fake specialized pic requests and very quickly weeds them out.
[QUOTE=Swimmer123;5574941]She's fake don't waste your time. She had a duplicate profile in Cary (I go between Raleigh and Richmond). She wouldn't take a verification snap / picture and wouldn't voice call. Blocked me when I requested either. Gives the baby sitter money upfront sob story too. Easiest way to crack the fake code is ask for a pic with 3-4 fingers up. Chances are any scammer won't have that as a stock photo of who they are posing as. I have seen at least 5 shitty editing jobs from different profiles of editing off fingers and things to meet my request in clearly stolen photos. Unless the scammer is a deep fake pro they can't fake specialized pic requests and very quickly weeds them out.[/QUOTE]Yep. Worst kept secret is that a large portions of profiles on SA are from dudes posing as chicks.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5575044]Yep. Worst kept secret is that a large portions of profiles on SA are from dudes posing as chicks.[/QUOTE]It's funny because requesting the specific photos make the scammers actually go to work for 30-40 min and come back with some garbage photo shop. I just troll them with "3/10 keep up the good work though" and then block them. So they just wasted all that time. Eventually if everyone starts making these requests word will get out that juice isn't worth the squeeze for scammers. If they give me anything other than a verification I block, don't even waste my time. You shouldn't either. Every legit SB I've had immediately complied with proof. And that's not a coincidence.
Doing a market check here.
How much are you guys giving the babies for a date these days?
It seems 200 no longer cuts it, and most babies are asking around 300-500 per meet.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;5577629]Doing a market check here.
How much are you guys giving the babies for a date these days?
It seems 200 no longer cuts it, and most babies are asking around 300-500 per meet.[/QUOTE]2 is rare but I still have a couple on rotation at that range. 3 is my average and rarely. Hardly ever at 4. A lot of work but still enjoying the game.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;5577629]Doing a market check here.
How much are you guys giving the babies for a date these days?
It seems 200 no longer cuts it, and most babies are asking around 300-500 per meet.[/QUOTE]200 is definately no longer cutting it. I am getting them asking for 500 up and some for 1000.
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5577807]200 is definately no longer cutting it. I am getting them asking for 500 up and some for 1000.[/QUOTE]I use the term ongoing and it's funny how that 500 will drop to 250-300. Been seeing one lately that started out at 1000, we meet weekly for 250.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;5577629]Doing a market check here.
How much are you guys giving the babies for a date these days?
It seems 200 no longer cuts it, and most babies are asking around 300-500 per meet.[/QUOTE]Depends on type of arrangement, I had 1 sb who was very hot and her bottom allowance was 400 per meet, no less, and for her I did it once a month. I had another who I gave 500 month in 2 installments of 250, for that I got at least 6-8 play times a month, ongoing great relationship.
Agreed that I'm seeing 300-400 is most common. I've had a couple of GPS head cases: one wanted $500 plus $100 for travel-which was like a 15 minute drive, another wanted $1 K per meet.
Though I'm finding that the fake / flake count is much higher than before. Seems like SA gets more difficult every time I dip back into the bowl. 75% of the SB's don't even read the messages I send, WTF?
A recent sketchy experience was a very hot 21 why / o gymnast. Claimed that she would come to me (over an hour drive, so that's good), immediately negotiated 300 ppm, even with the drive. All went fast and smooth, almost too much so. The morning of our date she says her car got towed but doesn't have funds to cover it. Doesn't ask for money, just says I'd need to come her way. I wasn't feeling well that morning anyway so told her we could reschedule. She agreed to that but we haven't set a date yet.
Anyone else seen a long-play scam that starts out with "my car got towed"? On one hand the timing was too convenient. On the other hand, there was no obvious attempt to cash out.
[QUOTE=Walruscl;5578457]Agreed that I'm seeing 300-400 is most common. I've had a couple of GPS head cases: one wanted $500 plus $100 for travel-which was like a 15 minute drive, another wanted $1 K per meet.
Though I'm finding that the fake / flake count is much higher than before. Seems like SA gets more difficult every time I dip back into the bowl. 75% of the SB's don't even read the messages I send, WTF?
A recent sketchy experience was a very hot 21 why / o gymnast. Claimed that she would come to me (over an hour drive, so that's good), immediately negotiated 300 ppm, even with the drive. All went fast and smooth, almost too much so. The morning of our date she says her car got towed but doesn't have funds to cover it. Doesn't ask for money, just says I'd need to come her way. I wasn't feeling well that morning anyway so told her we could reschedule. She agreed to that but we haven't set a date yet.
Anyone else seen a long-play scam that starts out with "my car got towed"? On one hand the timing was too convenient. On the other hand, there was no obvious attempt to cash out.[/QUOTE]Yes it's becoming more common for some scammers to play the long game. No indication of asking for anything upfront and then the day / hour of some misfortune befalls them and the whole thing falls through unless you patch it up with "just 25-50 Dollars."
I've had a profile there for a while but done nothing with it. They started emailing me a lot, I've been looking at it. This is a profile photo on the site. I can't find it on the web, is it a fake?
A lot of the profiles there are allegedly women seeking women, IDK if that just means fake, or what.
The have wish lists that are exactly the same as on SA. The notices I get by email are also from a slightly different sight I've also been on, Rich Meets Beautiful.
Here is a profile of I found on both SA and EliteMeetsBeauty.
[QUOTE=Walruscl;5578457]Anyone else seen a long-play scam that starts out with "my car got towed"? On one hand the timing was too convenient. On the other hand, there was no obvious attempt to cash out.[/QUOTE]I had a Lynchburg gal claim her car broke down on her way to see- even sent me a photo of her dashboard lit up- I kept waiting for the ask, but it never came. The next day car was still in shop, no ask.
3rd day she said she would come see me, then not a peep since.
Either very cold feet or don't know when to make the ask.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5575044]Yep. Worst kept secret is that a large portions of profiles on SA are from dudes posing as chicks.[/QUOTE]That's why I never do sexy talk through text before meeting. There are a lot of guys posing as chicks on SA. They get off on men telling them that they are sexy and beautiful.
[QUOTE=Swimmer123;5577069]It's funny because requesting the specific photos make the scammers actually go to work for 30-40 min and come back with some garbage photo shop. I just troll them with "3/10 keep up the good work though" and then block them. So they just wasted all that time. Eventually if everyone starts making these requests word will get out that juice isn't worth the squeeze for scammers. If they give me anything other than a verification I block, don't even waste my time. You shouldn't either. Every legit SB I've had immediately complied with proof. And that's not a coincidence.[/QUOTE]I almost missed out on a lot of great sugarbabies doing this. These girls can barely answer messages and texts. The majority of these girls are not going to immediately jump up and do their hair and make up just to send us a picture. A lot of these girls are 10's and they're not going to obey requests from random guys on the Internet unless they think they're going to get something. The nasty desperate ones will do anything though. They'll take a picture of themselves in 2 seconds standing on their head with a banana in their mouth.
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5577807]200 is definately no longer cutting it. I am getting them asking for 500 up and some for 1000.[/QUOTE]The majority of the girls that I chat with are good with 400. I have found that if I start at their price and continue to see them on a regular basis, they will drop their price once they know I'm not trying to scam them. Some of them will drop their price in half because they want "ongoing" "regular" money. A lot of the SA girls have been fucked and dumped before and they're trying to figure out who's authentic.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5578738]Here is a profile of I found on both SA and EliteMeetsBeauty.[/QUOTE]I tried it. 99% scams.
Just restarted my membership again as I'll have some free time for the foreseeable future. Ran across these three and its a NO GO from me.
*Bri447-- Online only. Looking to sell pix / vids. No intent to meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c0561ce9-83ac-4c16-afd0-1e8b2b251fc3[/URL]*.
Prettyandthick --*Online only. Looking to sell pix / vids. No intent to meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/83c06cd9-8443-4cf5-879e-b35c78154d9c[/URL]
Funandhappy28 -- looked ok so sent a message. Quick to text. Back and forth with no real purpose. Brushed my simple standard questions aside so I assume either fake or waste of time. Either way not interested. **.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/58ba4c56-c7ea-4fa9-9806-9fb74048c09e[/URL]
[QUOTE=WilliamsJJ703;5580093]Just restarted my membership again as I'll have some free time for the foreseeable future. Ran across these three and its a NO GO from me.
*Bri447-- Online only. Looking to sell pix / vids. No intent to meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c0561ce9-83ac-4c16-afd0-1e8b2b251fc3[/URL]*.
Prettyandthick --*Online only. Looking to sell pix / vids. No intent to meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/83c06cd9-8443-4cf5-879e-b35c78154d9c[/URL]
Funandhappy28 -- looked ok so sent a message. Quick to text. Back and forth with no real purpose. Brushed my simple standard questions aside so I assume either fake or waste of time. Either way not interested. **.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/58ba4c56-c7ea-4fa9-9806-9fb74048c09e[/URL][/QUOTE]If this is who I think it is, she is very much larger in person, especially ass and legs. She can also be a little crazy. I saw her one time a few years ago.