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[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck; 1339783]I was in the neighborhood driving down Young St. & a neon sign that says Hula Girls caught my eye. I heard of the place so decided to check out the merchandise. I recall them being known for having white meat. BTW this was like 4 am. So only 2 girls were available. But both look like a chubby chasers fantasy. 1 white blonde girl & 1 brunette who looked Latina or something. Was a tan girl but not Asian & not local I think. Both way too big for my taste. Does Hula's have any slimmer white girls or others?

I noticed right across the street Rose or Roses. I remembered DFK queen Sara...[/QUOTE]Hula does have some good ones but 4am may be to late. Depends what night you go too. Hit or miss. VIP is always good.

Look up "Korean Fantasy" in the urban dictionary. Junko fits the mold perfectly. Question answered!

Noun, countable, plural Korean fantasies

An extremely strong feeling of happiness and excitement which people of Korean descent imagine happening to them because it helps them forget about their racial inferiority complex developed during the colonial periods, but which will probably never happen.

[QUOTE=Luvnsex2;1339812]I finally got to meet her. She is definitely pretty, esp for her age. Very friendly, awesome DFK which I really enjoy and beginning to think that if they don't do, then I'll look for someone that does. Anyway, first time I've left with junior sore. Man she does something down there that makes it feel ever so good. The finish in MISH with the cover was better than most! Only turn off was that her boobs have little to no air left in them. Not trying to be mean, just IMHO. I might repeat cause of location, DFK, friendly attitude (though I've heard she is moody) , and the kegal action. And yup, she does love DATY. But will probably go for younger that provide the same level of service.[/QUOTE]

Yo,

Agree the Junko no longer has them perky tits like 5-7 years or so ago-she had more meat on her ass too as one time. Better than avg now, but not by much-still good for the MILF that she is.

YMMV with the Tiffany too. She's the hot chick that is not sensual at all-she spent more time lookin at herself in the mirror-kinda like the Million does, excep the Million does love the sex more. So did the Penny / Lucky, but the Penny wanted to do porno vid and always asked for cumshot somewhere on her bod, nice nice nice.

The Tiffany is good lookin, but her service for me was pretty sick in a bad way. She just wanted to get me off as fast as she could. Heck, maybe she learned more on how to be a pro hoe since then.

And you got DFK and BBBJ? Now that's a change-she said no DFK and CBJ only-things must have changed past few weeks.

Jb

[QUOTE=HungovrTonite; 1339855]I hit Rappongi a few weeks ago. Went with a Viet chick named Tiffany. She was pretty cute, about 25. 30 years old, decent body. Got a TS. After TS went straight into DFK, BBBJ, FIV, CFS. Very enthusiastic and would definately repeat.

There was another asian there, white chick, and half local chick there. Didn't want to try the white chick or local chick because I wouldn't expect the same amount of GFE experience as I would with an asian chick. Like I said in the title I probably got lucky but I would go back just for her.

Biggest downside of Rappongi though is MS knocking on the door early. Tiffany told her ok, made a face, and went right back into it. Awesome attitude about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stoner R;1339769]Nope, he's going to be 'gaigin' to him forever. Japanese people are the most racist / elitist people in the east. They even discriminate against their own people (okinawans, burakumin, etc.). They consider other asian cultures inferior to theirs.[/QUOTE]That's why I gave up on doing "Maria Ozawa". No way an english speaking, part Japan dude will ever get to see her, where she escorts.

Waikikian.

Stay thirsty my friends!

Well I finally did it! I started reading this board about 6 months ago. It didn't take long to learn that Monica was an all star, so I trundled right over to Kison, only to learn that she (and Coco) were gone! So I was overjoyed to hear about the new place: now called "321" for the room number. The easiest way to find it is call 945-7777. I parked on the street.

I called at 3:30 on Friday afternoon and was surprised to hear that Monica was available. I was there in a flash. Needless to say, she more than lived up to her reviews! The lady has the most talented mouth I've had the pleasure of enjoying for a very long time, and I enjoyed it for a very long time! Friday afternoon and I was the only customer in the place, so we took at least an hour and a half, then hopped into the shower together, where she washed me from head to toe, followed by another BBBJ! What a sweet lady!

Just saw this on cnn:

[url]http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/living/2011/12/13/cspc-holiday-safety-demo.cnn[/url]

I can imagine a much, much better idea for entertainment in Ala Moana.

Channel sends in young woman named Tiffany. Korean, twenty something. Light skin, medium built, by way of New York and friend's word of mouth. Attractive face but not beautiful. Been there less than a week. She has just showered and hair is wet. I shower. She tells me to lie down on my stomach. She begins massage fully clothed but no towel on me. She walks around the bed and then jump on the bed. Good, full body, massage that takes a long time. Then she asks permission to walk on me, still fully clothed. I say yes. She puts towel on me and starts to walk on me, legs, buttocks and back and even my arms. At one point the scene from "Drive" pops into my head where the driver crushes the assassin's neck in the elevator by repeatedly stomping on it. I think this little girl had better not go psycho and step on my neck. Hehe. Then she does the finger nail and finger trick on the skin. Then she tells me to flip. I say no. We are not done with foreplay yet. She is still clothed and I tell her to strip and lie on my back and move around with her brests and nipples rubbing against my skin all over. She still has her thong on. There, I say to her, you learn something everyday. This would be a good addition to her routine to get both her and the client a bit more aroused. Now I flip.

She hovers over me offering her nipples. The brests are nice and soft and natural, and the nipples are big and hard. They taste so good. I ask for kssing but she says on. Oh well. I then try to take off her thong. She takes it off and we are off to 69. But she does not stay still or put her clit in a position to give my tongue an easy target. Bummer. She puts cover on junior for BJ. She does a good CBJ with no rush. The she lubes up junior who is covered and might have lubed herself up earlier. She goes cowgirl and it is squishy. I usually don't get anything out of cowgirl down below, and just like the opportunity to fondle the brests and nipples. Now, squat humping is a different story. When I am on the V pill and my reservoir is empty and I am hard but trouble coming in any other position, squat humping by a provider with good cardio will usually do the trick. But the release is usually not as plesurable as it would otherwise be in other positions, and I have to make the provider stop moving right before release. Anyway, sorry for my digression. I do not like squat humping in the beginning and Tiffany does not try and I do not ask her. After cowgirl, I get on top for mish. Again, too squishy due to too much lube. That is allright. Means I will have more stamina. I do long and slow strokes and she moves her hips in circular motion to match my rhythm. I like that from providers. More of a GFE technique. Then I switch to standing mish, propping her legs against my arms. Her body and vocals indicate more excitement but she does not rub her own clit so she is not trying to come. I release in standing mish. Then something came into my head. Since she just showered maybe I should try to rim her. Never done that before. I tell her to lie on her stomach and she looks at me with concern and wants to know what I would do. With my fingers I indicate my tongue to her ass and she says no need. I probably would not have enjoyed it either. Hehe. She wipes junior down with alcohol, and I shower.

Back in room. I tell her other girls do extras, like kissing, BBBJ and some even do BBFS, and not doing or doing these extras could affect her income. I also tell her repeat customers would want discount. She says she will just be here for a few months. I get the impression that she is risk adverse and will not do extras.

So, Tiffany is good for (1) a good and long message, (2) if you like being with a young woman, and (3) if you do not care for extras like kissing or BBBJ. But she will not be your cup of tea if you care most about kissing and BBBJ, let alone BBFS. Maybe time and experience will change her. Who knows.

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck; 1339783]I was in the neighborhood driving down Young St. & a neon sign that says Hula Girls caught my eye. I heard of the place so decided to check out the merchandise. I recall them being known for having white meat. BTW this was like 4 am. So only 2 girls were available. But both look like a chubby chasers fantasy. 1 white blonde girl & 1 brunette who looked Latina or something. Was a tan girl but not Asian & not local I think. Both way too big for my taste. Does Hula's have any slimmer white girls or others?

I noticed right across the street Rose or Roses. I remembered DFK queen Sara is there. I had no intention of spending $$ I was just window shopping but to meet Sara I let MS lead me to the room just to ask to meet her 1st. I swear Sara was going to walk in hug me & go straight for DFK. I stopped her & explained I just wanted to meet her because I heard good things. I don't want to pull a fast 1 just to hustle a girl for a little kiss, plus I didn't want blue balls LOL. She was a little too wide in the stomach & hip area than I'd like. Not a big pooch just the side of her tummy is wider than the ass. Face was ok & I may still go for some DFK some day. Sara was totally fine with me just wanting to meet her & told me come see her soon. I like this one's Attitude already. Asked about another girl who introduced herself as Jenny. She was dressed in home clothes & no make up but face was very pretty. I'm wondering how the body looks if anyone knows. Maybe service too. There was 1 other girl who I feel bad now for not acting like I also thought she was attractive. I'm sure she don't care anyway.

Then as I'm driving away I see Nirvana. I was maybe going to go here 1 day for Jun or Sugar so I checked it out too. The MS is a total be*tch. No girls in the living room they were all cruisin in a bedroom. MS said I can't see any girl till I pay the HF. I don't want to pay HF, meet Jun & then act like I don't want her or Sugar then leave. I'm sure the girls could care less but still. Idiot MS may have just cost herself a repeat customer who partakes A LOT. My 1st negative report of a MS LOL.

I like the Ward Whoreplex because got 3 AMPs to go to. So its like a total of maybe 15-20 girls to choose from sometimes. Young St. Had 3 AMPs all basically across the street from each other but I'm wondering if there are any I missed. And does Hulas have hotter skinny girls? And any intel on Jenny at Rose. PM me if you can guys.[/QUOTE]Splooge,

If I were you I would go back and be extra extra nice to Mama and ask for June. IMHO she is the best service there. Even though it is all covered with her she is extremely tight down there and she has an awesome bod. And she is a real sweetheart. While she will not allow deep deep tongue penetrating kissing she will DFK. She just doesn't like it when you slobber all over her. Just be subtle with the DFK and she absolutely craves DATY. Not only that she has a textbook pussy that just is so small and beautiful. Sometimes I just gaze in amazement at it. Be careful though, I have broken two condoms inside her, that is how tight she is. Of course out of respect for her I stopped and told her about it and she got up and quickly replaced it (darn it). Ask her to dress up in sexy lingerie for you. She will do it and just looks great in it. I once asked and she changed into a pink bra and pink thong with high heels. Aw man she looked so tasty that I actually banged her with the lingerie on. Something about lingerie it is like a frame around a nice picture just seems to accentuate it. From my perspective she is yummy. Have seen her many times. Of course YMMV.

By the way, I handle really bitchy Mamas by promising them that I will actually "pick someone" and giving them the house fee. Of course I have had to "TOFTT" a couple of times with this method. But they always let me in and are nice to me the next time around. It is worth the gamble in my opinion. But I agree with you the night mama can be a real bitty. I never understood that.

[QUOTE=Mipene77; 1340284]Splooge,

If I were you I would go back and be extra extra nice to Mama and ask for June. IMHO she is the best service there. Even though it is all covered with her she is extremely tight down there and she has an awesome bod. And she is a real sweetheart. While she will not allow deep deep tongue penetrating kissing she will DFK. She just doesn't like it when you slobber all over her. Just be subtle with the DFK and she absolutely craves DATY. Not only that she has a textbook pussy that just is so small and beautiful. Sometimes I just gaze in amazement at it. Be careful though, I have broken two condoms inside her, that is how tight she is. Of course out of respect for her I stopped and told her about it and she got up and quickly replaced it (darn it). Ask her to dress up in sexy lingerie for you. She will do it and just looks great in it. I once asked and she changed into a pink bra and pink thong with high heels. Aw man she looked so tasty that I actually banged her with the lingerie on. Something about lingerie it is like a frame around a nice picture just seems to accentuate it. From my perspective she is yummy. Have seen her many times. Of course YMMV.

By the way, I handle really bitchy Mamas by promising them that I will actually "pick someone" and giving them the house fee. Of course I have had to "TOFTT" a couple of times with this method. But they always let me in and are nice to me the next time around. It is worth the gamble in my opinion. But I agree with you the night mama can be a real bitty. I never understood that.[/QUOTE]Good tips bro. A couple others have told me Jun is real good too & hot. She sounds even more tempting now that I know I can ask her to dress up. Lingerie like a frame on a picture, that was a great comparison & I agree. I always ask a girl to keep her lingerie skirt on if they are wearing one. I love the schoolgirl skirt look. I like LFK too doesn't have to be DFK for me but nowadays I do need some smooching. I think Nirvana is the 1 always referred to as having the stair walk of shame. I get it now. Worse than Ward LOL.

Not sure but is that a strip club in the parking lot? Reminded me of Ohana Massage (I think is the name) across the street of VIP & Ichiban near Walmart. Its in a parking lot of a strip club & also has a stairs of shame. I used to see Ginger who moved to Ward after. I think was 2009. Anyone know her? She still around? No Ohana Massage reports here LOL. All the other providers were real old, Ginger was the only skinny young one.

BTW as I'm reading past reports last nite I coincidentally came across many rob, rush, poor service reports on Hulas with just about everyone saying MS knocks at like the half hour mark. I won't waste my time. Just go VIP for the white meat.

[QUOTE=Waikikian; 1340168]That's why I gave up on doing "Maria Ozawa". No way an english speaking, part Japan dude will ever get to see her, where she escorts.

Waikikian.

Stay thirsty my friends![/QUOTE]But Maria Ozawa herself is half-white. She shouldn't have that attitude.

I had to write about All Star Mimi at Pine Tree. Today was a good day Mama didn't knock and Mimi and I went for 90 minutes. Great TS little standing BBBJ, great massage but you always have to ask for your massage the way you like it, then BBBJ better then Monica and now same as Coco, DATY, rcg, cg, ds, then mish stoped and Mimi got on top again cg for 5 minutes with lots of moning. I think she came twice that was a turn on for me this time and I filled the bag she didn't use lube at all. She told me that she won't see me for two weeks and this service will hold me till then. But I'm going back before she leaves on vacation Dec. 22nd. I'm changing things around Mimi, Coco, Cherry / lisa, Monica in this order and maybe Didi didn't try her yet what do you guys think should I?

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck; 1339783]I was in the neighborhood driving down Young St. & a neon sign that says Hula Girls caught my eye. I heard of the place so decided to check out the merchandise. I recall them being known for having white meat. BTW this was like 4 am. So only 2 girls were available. But both look like a chubby chasers fantasy. 1 white blonde girl & 1 brunette who looked Latina or something. Was a tan girl but not Asian & not local I think. Both way too big for my taste. Does Hula's have any slimmer white girls or others?

I noticed right across the street Rose or Roses. I remembered DFK queen Sara is there. I had no intention of spending $$ I was just window shopping but to meet Sara I let MS lead me to the room just to ask to meet her 1st. I swear Sara was going to walk in hug me & go straight for DFK. I stopped her & explained I just wanted to meet her because I heard good things. I don't want to pull a fast 1 just to hustle a girl for a little kiss, plus I didn't want blue balls LOL. She was a little too wide in the stomach & hip area than I'd like. Not a big pooch just the side of her tummy is wider than the ass. Face was ok & I may still go for some DFK some day. Sara was totally fine with me just wanting to meet her & told me come see her soon. I like this one's Attitude already. Asked about another girl who introduced herself as Jenny. She was dressed in home clothes & no make up but face was very pretty. I'm wondering how the body looks if anyone knows. Maybe service too. There was 1 other girl who I feel bad now for not acting like I also thought she was attractive. I'm sure she don't care anyway.

Then as I'm driving away I see Nirvana. I was maybe going to go here 1 day for Jun or Sugar so I checked it out too. The MS is a total be*tch. No girls in the living room they were all cruisin in a bedroom. MS said I can't see any girl till I pay the HF. I don't want to pay HF, meet Jun & then act like I don't want her or Sugar then leave. I'm sure the girls could care less but still. Idiot MS may have just cost herself a repeat customer who partakes A LOT. My 1st negative report of a MS LOL.

I like the Ward Whoreplex because got 3 AMPs to go to. So its like a total of maybe 15-20 girls to choose from sometimes. Young St. Had 3 AMPs all basically across the street from each other but I'm wondering if there are any I missed. And does Hulas have hotter skinny girls? And any intel on Jenny at Rose. PM me if you can guys.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if I have seen this Jenny at Rose. I hear Jenny is the owner. I never go mongering after dinner and I have seen an older MILF sitting on the couch in the lobby with a deep voice once in the late afternoon. Was not sure if that was Lily or Jenny. Now Sera has gained weight since early this year. She works out but she likes to drink. She is of an age where if she is not careful the booze could really start to affect her figure. And her figure would be important the next few years as this consummate veteran pro works toward retirement. Now she is reported to be DFK Queen and do occassional BBFS, but rimming is also on the menu. However, she does not do everything everytime with everyone. I have contribued enough for her retirement already so time to move on. Hehe. I want to see other providers but Sera has some qualities that get my juices flowing regardless. At the risk of sounding fetish, I think Sera has the cutest little feet and hands for a woman her size. And she ain't short or small. Hehe. Am I perverted and sick now? Hehe. I like Yumi at Nirvana. I have been with her under different names when she was at Ichiban, Mina's place on King now called Green Rose, and at Nirvana. But service is standard. We just have history and rapport (yea right, more like an acceptable intersection of price and demand, hehe). I have seen Jun in passing once. She looked like she has great figure and attitude that day, and the reports about her seem to be always good. Need to try her.

[QUOTE=Jbravo; 1340167]Yo,

Agree the Junko no longer has them perky tits like 5-7 years or so ago-she had more meat on her ass too as one time. Better than avg now, but not by much-still good for the MILF that she is.

YMMV with the Tiffany too. She's the hot chick that is not sensual at all-she spent more time lookin at herself in the mirror-kinda like the Million does, excep the Million does love the sex more. So did the Penny / Lucky, but the Penny wanted to do porno vid and always asked for cumshot somewhere on her bod, nice nice.

Jb[/QUOTE]When I got the dfk I just went for it because I was a little drunk and she was into it. She did look jn the mirror a few times bit I was fine with that. Figured I would too if there was a mirror on the ceiling instead of behind my head. Probably one of those YMMV times but I would repeat hoping for same treatment. If not I would look somewhere else thy would be more consistent with the GFE. Oh and I hear a lot of tiffanys rolling around this is the one at rappongi just in case you didn't know which one I was talking about

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1340340]But Maria Ozawa herself is half-white. She shouldn't have that attitude.[/QUOTE]Problem is, is that Maria has a Japanese dude, at the club, make her appointments. Therein lies the problem. If I could see and talk to her at the club,

I would have no problem. Not being able to speak the lingo is a shut-out right there. And of course, a geigin, couldn't get in the club to start with.

So, dead in the water!

I can see why there were problems in the 40's.

And these problems had nothing to do with race. They had to do with money and property and how Japan could keep those things in Japan.

Stay thirsty my friends.

Waikikian

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1340340]But Maria Ozawa herself is half-white. She shouldn't have that attitude.[/QUOTE]Every country has there own idea about sex. In Japan BJ isn't sex, it is viewed as a way for men to relieve stress. Bill Clinton would have loved being Prime Minister there, cause the people would say so?

Anyway, yes, even if you are Japanese, but from another country, you are not considered one of them. The only way you can get sex from their better soaplands is by knowing someone who will sponsor you and that person is a big shot themselves. However, there are those that do accept foreignors if you can speak the language. However the better ones or being able to go bb at the places that do accept foreignors is less likely to happen. However if you can speak Japanese and look local, they will allow you to if you can fuool them.

Even the bars that have Russian and foreign women will say Japanese only. Went to this one place that looked like they selling hot DVDs, but actually they were cards for super hot chicks that gave info on what the girls are willing to do etc, you buy it then call the girl. The guy thought I was Japanese, my mannerism seemed Japanese, so he began asking what kind girl I was looking for, but my Japanese was bad, so I told him that I was gaijin, in stunned disbelief, he said in english while stutering- Japanese only. You go.

As for Maria Ozawa, even though she is part white, he clientle, the rich sugar daddys, would ditch her if they knew she did it with foreignors. She is not going to risk that for a gaijin who is basically a one nighter.

[QUOTE=Crouchingtiger;1340448]Every country has there own idea about sex. In Japan BJ isn't sex, it is viewed as a way for men to relieve stress. Bill Clinton would have loved being Prime Minister there, cause the people would say so?[/QUOTE]I have to say that I have never been much on receiving blow jobs until just a few of years ago. It wasn't until the famous Yung of Narita Spa gave me Earth shattering head did I become an addict! ...and for it to truly be "stress relieving," I "have" to CIM. This is why I dig Monica so much, even though she doesn't offer other extras I used to consider my favorite (rim and anal). I know Coco gives great head too, but the way Monica DTs and swallows puts her over the top.

The best head ever was from this chick Michelle at Nikki Spa in SanFran! Another experience that ruined me for CBJs and non-CIM providers!

Wasup bradahs! I wanted me some Coco at CHM base on the reviews here, too bad for me she was busy. So decided to head to Kison for Yuki (would've been my first repeat) , but she was off. Ended up with new girl Maya instead. She's Japanese, young, pretty, slim / petite and new to the AMP game. A / 7 tries to be friendly. L / 8 Young, pretty, slim / petite. S / 5 CBJ was meh, she rode. Laid on top for cg, she positioned herself in mish so I can't go all the way in, she wraps her hand around my boto in doggy so I can't go all in, I mean cmon its not like I have an anaconda (all covered)! I tried to taste them nips but she did'nt like it, tried to play with her nani but brush my hand away. The whole time she was doing some horrible acting and just wanted me to come, I didn't even bother asking for LFK / DFK. She also turned the light super dark, so service was poor, couldn't get my moneys worth by banging the ish out of her, and I can't even enjoy a nice view. In hindsight I should've opted for just a CBJ or went someplace else or should've stayed home and play COD.

[QUOTE=Bubear;1340483]Wasup bradahs! I wanted me some Coco at CHM base on the reviews here, too bad for me she was busy. So decided to head to Kison for Yuki (would've been my first repeat) , but she was off. Ended up with new girl Maya instead. She's Japanese, young, pretty, slim / petite and new to the AMP game. A / 7 tries to be friendly. L / 8 Young, pretty, slim / petite. S / 5 CBJ was meh, she rode. Laid on top for cg, she positioned herself in mish so I can't go all the way in, she wraps her hand around my boto in doggy so I can't go all in, I mean cmon its not like I have an anaconda (all covered)! I tried to taste them nips but she did'nt like it, tried to play with her nani but brush my hand away. The whole time she was doing some horrible acting and just wanted me to come, I didn't even bother asking for LFK / DFK. She also turned the light super dark, so service was poor, couldn't get my moneys worth by banging the ish out of her, and I can't even enjoy a nice view. In hindsight I should've opted for just a CBJ or went someplace else or should've stayed home and play COD.[/QUOTE]LOL sometimes its just better. Cod or mw3. More safe than sorry.

There is a new Yuri at VIP, not to be confused with Yuri with the tattoo. Looks: Face 8 Body 7, Attitude 8, Service 6. Nice eyes, fairly young maybe mid 20's, firm athletic body kind of like the other Yuri, but bigger bones. Friendly, but basic service with some massage, typical new girl service, has not learned how to give that extra to make you come back.

BTW there is another Cindy at Ginza, formerly Gina? From VIP, slim short hair big tits for slim body, little older; hope she improved her poor attitude and service.

[QUOTE=Bubear;1340483]Wasup bradahs! I wanted me some Coco at CHM base on the reviews here, too bad for me she was busy. So decided to head to Kison for Yuki (would've been my first repeat) , but she was off. Ended up with new girl Maya instead. She's Japanese, young, pretty, slim / petite and new to the AMP game. A / 7 tries to be friendly. L / 8 Young, pretty, slim / petite. S / 5 CBJ was meh, she rode. Laid on top for cg, she positioned herself in mish so I can't go all the way in, she wraps her hand around my boto in doggy so I can't go all in, I mean cmon its not like I have an anaconda (all covered)! I tried to taste them nips but she did'nt like it, tried to play with her nani but brush my hand away. The whole time she was doing some horrible acting and just wanted me to come, I didn't even bother asking for LFK / DFK. She also turned the light super dark, so service was poor, couldn't get my moneys worth by banging the ish out of her, and I can't even enjoy a nice view. In hindsight I should've opted for just a CBJ or went someplace else or should've stayed home and play COD.[/QUOTE]Blocking happened to me with one provider at VIP, think Sylvia was her name, tall and young Korean woman. She asked for $ up front and I paid. If it happened to me again, I would move her hand away if I had paid upfront, and will not tip in full if I had not paid upfront.

[QUOTE=Stoner R;1339769]Nope, he's going to be 'gaigin' to him forever. Japanese people are the most racist / elitist people in the east. They even discriminate against their own people (okinawans, burakumin, etc.). They consider other asian cultures inferior to theirs.[/QUOTE]Every country is racist! In Thailand and the Philippines, Indian people from India simply get no love anywhere! Seriously! In other parts of Asia, Blacks aren't usually treated as equals. Try go to Korea or Mainland China a lot of the people don't like white people either. I think most of Asia don't like the Chinese either. I know a lot of people in Europe that don't care for Americans. A lot of people in Paris hate Americans. And what about the middle east? They'll figure out some way to kill you once they figure out you're American.

It's just a way of life.

[QUOTE=Stoner R;1339769]Nope, he's going to be 'gaigin' to him forever. Japanese people are the most racist / elitist people in the east. They even discriminate against their own people (okinawans, burakumin, etc.). They consider other asian cultures inferior to theirs.[/QUOTE]Every country is racist! In Thailand and the Philippines, Indian people from India simply get no love anywhere! Seriously! In other parts of Asia, Blacks aren't usually treated as equals. Try go to Korea or Mainland China a lot of the people don't like white people either. I think most of Asia don't like the Chinese either. I know a lot of people in Europe that don't care for Americans. A lot of people in Paris hate Americans. And what about the middle east? They'll figure out some way to kill you once they figure out why.

It's just a way of life.

[QUOTE=Panda Bike;1340342]I had to write about All Star Mimi at Pine Tree. Today was a good day Mama didn't knock and Mimi and I went for 90 minutes. Great TS little standing BBBJ, great massage but you always have to ask for your massage the way you like it, then BBBJ better then Monica and now same as Coco, DATY, rcg, cg, ds, then mish stoped and Mimi got on top again cg for 5 minutes with lots of moning. I think she came twice that was a turn on for me this time and I filled the bag she didn't use lube at all. She told me that she won't see me for two weeks and this service will hold me till then. But I'm going back before she leaves on vacation Dec. 22nd. I'm changing things around Mimi, Coco, Cherry / lisa, Monica in this order and maybe Didi didn't try her yet what do you guys think should I?[/QUOTE]I read all these glowing reports on Mimi that assumes that everyone would know her looks, but I don't. Worse yet I had a provider that I thought named Mimi earlier this year at PT mid morning on the weekends. Older, out of shape, Southeast Asian who was available while everyone else was asleep. Maybe she was half asleep too. Had good enough service, but this cannot be the All Star Mimi? Please describe the looks of the famous Mimi. Thanks.

[QUOTE=YG365; 1340658]Every country is racist! In Thailand and the Philippines, Indian people from India simply get no love anywhere! Seriously! In other parts of Asia, Blacks aren't usually treated as equals. Try go to Korea or Mainland China a lot of the people don't like white people either. I think most of Asia don't like the Chinese either. I know a lot of people in Europe that don't care for Americans. A lot of people in Paris hate Americans. And what about the middle east? They'll figure out some way to kill you once they figure out why.

It's just a way of life.[/QUOTE]Nonetheless, the Japanese are known as being the most racist people in Asia. I have known Asian people who had the misfortune of having lived in Japan. As an example, I knew a beautiful and sweet young Vietnamese woman whose family went there as refugees. She described it as a nightmare. When I knew her, she was living in Italy. She felt very comfortable, liked, and welcomed in Italy. So while there may be truth in what you say, it can not be denied that the Japanese are indeed the most racist of Asians if not the most racist of all nations.

I have traveled to Japan numerous times. It is true that they look down upon the Okinawans. Mainland Japanese (if you can say that about people in an island nation) regard themselves as a homogeneous people and they wish to preserve that.

I also knew a Korean woman who was from Yanbian, which is an autonomous region in northeastern China, inhabited my two million ethnic Koreans. She regarded herself as Chinese and did not feel as though she had been discriminated against in any way when she lived there, which was until she was 40 years old. So I think it is possible for a nation to embrace various ethnicities and races within its borders. There are fifty six such ethnicities in China if I remember correctly. Granted that some of them (some Tibetans come to mind) wish they were not part of China. But some would argue that those people are actually better off as Chinese nationals than they would be as Tibetan nationals.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=Capn Morgan; 1101060]Here's the Capn's log:

L=8. About 5-7, thin. 25 yrs old, nice long hair and she likes to dangle it, nicely shaped CCs, toned body, pretty face.

A=7. Friendly. Easy to talk to. Had a few rules but was pretty cool about them.

S=6. Said she was new to the business and it showed. She's still working out her routine. OK BBJ. Weak CG but made great sexy eye contact. Refused DS. Nice tight nana. Allowed LK, DATY, tit sucking. Responded well.

Prolly won't repeat. There are just too many others to sample. Saw another cute new one as I left. MS said her name was Yudi. Yep, I'll be back.

Capn Morgan[/QUOTE]L- Positives: Appears Eurasian, Korean / White mix. 5'4" and weighs about 110-115 pounds, IMO her beautiful face reminds me of pornstar Asia Carrerre even if she really don't look like her, nice C's. D's, solid muscualr arms, and nice poji. From breasts up, L-9 for AMP standards. Negatives: Has a slight fold on belly as she had a child, flat ass and skinny muscular legs. Her ass is so flat and muscular as it reminds me of the ridges on turkey tails after you've stripped it down to the bone. From tummy down, L-5. IMHO. If her bottom half was up to par with her upper half, I'd give her 10++ in L for AMP standards and 9 overall.

A- We clicked so she was pleasant, joking, cynical, passionate but what f'ed it up was she complained that I was taking too long and double popping. That killed the mood. I could see that she was abiding but was gettting irritated. A- Would have been 10++ but because of complaints 8.

S-Allowed DFK and was passionate but made it known to me that she really don't DFK. I kept at it with persistence and she never complained again. Liked her nipples sucked and loved DATY and would make passionate moaning sounds and wether real or not, it did it for me. Didn't like suspended congress and "demanded" I put her down but I didn't really care as when I looked in the mirror, I saw her flat, muscular ass and skinny legs which was a turnoff. Capn Morgan posted that she declined DS but allowed with me. I saw that she was uncomfortable and was moaning loud. In DS, she probably can't take it too deep. Her moaning in DS was like how the girls moan in JAV. Some bruddahs might like this but for some reason felt pity for her. Capn Morgan must have a "Hammer" for her to refuse DS from him. She took a chance with me. She does BBBJ and all other positions mentioned in Capn's report.

S-8. Only because DFK came with menu. To date, most passionate DFK for me. Her DFK and moaning at the same time is passionate. Damn, I love that.

King Cobrack

[QUOTE=Bubear;1340483]Wasup bradahs! I wanted me some Coco at CHM base on the reviews here, too bad for me she was busy.[/QUOTE]I thought coco was w / monica at the new 321 place?

[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1340688]Nonetheless, the Japanese are known as being the most racist people in Asia. I have known Asian people who had the misfortune of having lived in Japan. As an example, I knew a beautiful and sweet young Vietnamese woman whose family went there as refugees. She described it as a nightmare. When I knew her, she was living in Italy. She felt very comfortable, liked, and welcomed in Italy. So while there may be truth in what you say, it can not be denied that the Japanese are indeed the most racist of Asians if not the most racist of all nations.

I have traveled to Japan numerous times. It is true that they look down upon the Okinawans. Mainland Japanese (if you can say that about people in an island nation) regard themselves as a homogeneous people and they wish to preserve that.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Is it racism or ethnocentrism? I've had business dealings with local professional Japanese and they say the Japanese from Japan are the most ethnocentric people around next to the Jews of Israel. This is an example he had given me. In sumo, the Japanese were getting beaten in a sport that they have created and dominated and the current Yokozuna is a Mongol. Other Yokozunas outside the Japanese race had been Samoan and Hawaiian from Hawaii. Because of this, they hadn't proven their dominance and the BEST even in a sport that they had created. So now, they limit foreigners per stable.

King Cobrack

[QUOTE=King Cobrack; 1340722]Is it racism or ethnocentrism? I've had business dealings with local professional Japanese and they say the Japanese from Japan are the most ethnocentric people around next to the Jews of Israel. This is an example he had given me. In sumo, the Japanese were getting beaten in a sport that they have created and dominated and the current Yokozuna is a Mongol. Other Yokozunas outside the Japanese race had been Samoan and Hawaiian from Hawaii. Because of this, they hadn't proven their dominance and the BEST even in a sport that they had created. So now, they limit foreigners per stable.

King Cobrack[/QUOTE]Japslaps. Some are soo fkn chang

[QUOTE=King Cobrack; 1340709]L- Positives: Appears Eurasian, Korean / White mix. 5'4" and weighs about 110-115 pounds, IMO her beautiful face reminds me of pornstar Asia Carrerre even if she really don't look like her, nice C's. D's, solid muscualr arms, and nice poji. From breasts up, L-9 for AMP standards. Negatives: Has a slight fold on belly as she had a child, flat ass and skinny muscular legs. Her ass is so flat and muscular as it reminds me of the ridges on turkey tails after you've stripped it down to the bone. From tummy down, L-5. IMHO. If her bottom half was up to par with her upper half, I'd give her 10++ in L for AMP standards and 9 overall.

A- We clicked so she was pleasant, joking, cynical, passionate but what f'ed it up was she complained that I was taking too long and double popping. That killed the mood. I could see that she was abiding but was gettting irritated. A- Would have been 10++ but because of complaints 8.

S-Allowed DFK and was passionate but made it known to me that she really don't DFK. I kept at it with persistence and she never complained again. Liked her nipples sucked and loved DATY and would make passionate moaning sounds and wether real or not, it did it for me. Didn't like suspended congress and "demanded" I put her down but I didn't really care as when I looked in the mirror, I saw her flat, muscular ass and skinny legs which was a turnoff. Capn Morgan posted that she declined DS but allowed with me. I saw that she was uncomfortable and was moaning loud. In DS, she probably can't take it too deep. Her moaning in DS was like how the girls moan in JAV. Some bruddahs might like this but for some reason felt pity for her. Capn Morgan must have a "Hammer" for her to refuse DS from him. She took a chance with me. She does BBBJ and all other positions mentioned in Capn's report.

S-8. Only because DFK came with menu. To date, most passionate DFK for me. Her DFK and moaning at the same time is passionate. Damn, I love that.

King Cobrack[/QUOTE]Almost describes the. MICHELLE I posted about from Rappongi. But hair not so long.

Been doing a lot of business for this industry lately, since I will be out of the loop very soon, and nothing like this will be available for a long time, so I'm sewing my oats. So to speak, whatevah. I was determined to do some Day mongering, and well. I just got back. Slid in the back gate of Ginza (on my way our a cop sitting there WTF, I see this often) rang bell and MMS let me in. In walks Miki, very nice young body, not too cute of face, but she looks like the girl in the backpage ad they have, the slim girl against the wall with the red and white stripped bikini, maybe her, but doubt it, cause Miki cups are bigger, C? Dunno, anyway, That's the butt I wuz lookin at, like that she's got smooth young skin, mid to late 20s it appears to me. Started with LE check, then TS, very nice, then a real nice relaxing massage, walking on back, very nicely done. Then light touching not too bad CBJ, RCG, Mish to finish. My fav position so simple but effective. I'm gettin old and don't last too long anywayz. So, I did feel a little rushed at the end.

Now the big downer. My first ever Tipping issue. At wonderful Ginza. I was 2 bills short of standard $.5, she says, not enough. I was like =.0.

I'm easy, so gave $.6, but that was such a downer. If I could have gotten DFK, or at least LFK service wise. I'd be like. Ya, $.6, but anyway, big downer. Can' t even believe she made an issue, I should have fished around for all the pennies and shit in my pocket and poured it out. There ya go!

L=7. That fine ass and skin. Not so much the face.

A=5. Very Friendly. But WTF tipping issue. BAD Next!

S=7. Nice massage! No Kissing. Sucks, won't be back for that either!

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1340661]I read all these glowing reports on Mimi that assumes that everyone would know her looks, but I don't. Worse yet I had a provider that I thought named Mimi earlier this year at PT mid morning on the weekends. Older, out of shape, Southeast Asian who was available while everyone else was asleep. Maybe she was half asleep too. Had good enough service, but this cannot be the All Star Mimi? Please describe the looks of the famous Mimi. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The good Mimi works at 5:00pm. She has a body like a 25 year old, looks about 35 to 39. All this is after 5. Vietnamese 5 foot with Cs and long black hair.

[QUOTE=HiPickle; 1340848]Been doing a lot of business for this industry lately, since I will be out of the loop very soon, and nothing like this will be available for a long time, so I'm sewing my oats. So to speak, whatevah. I was determined to do some Day mongering, and well. I just got back. Slid in the back gate of Ginza (on my way our a cop sitting there WTF, I see this often) rang bell and MMS let me in. In walks Miki, very nice young body, not too cute of face, but she looks like the girl in the backpage ad they have, the slim girl against the wall with the red and white stripped bikini, maybe her, but doubt it, cause Miki cups are bigger, C? Dunno, anyway, That's the butt I wuz lookin at, like that she's got smooth young skin, mid to late 20s it appears to me. Started with LE check, then TS, very nice, then a real nice relaxing massage, walking on back, very nicely done. Then light touching not too bad CBJ, RCG, Mish to finish. My fav position so simple but effective. I'm gettin old and don't last too long anywayz. So, I did feel a little rushed at the end.

Now the big downer. My first ever Tipping issue. At wonderful Ginza. I was 2 bills short of standard $.5, she says, not enough. I was like =.0.

I'm easy, so gave $.6, but that was such a downer. If I could have gotten DFK, or at least LFK service wise. I'd be like. Ya, $.6, but anyway, big downer. Can' t even believe she made an issue, I should have fished around for all the pennies and shit in my pocket and poured it out. There ya go!

L=7. That fine ass and skin. Not so much the face.

A=5. Very Friendly. But WTF tipping issue. BAD Next!

S=7. Nice massage! No Kissing. Sucks, won't be back for that either![/QUOTE]Any chance you kno if the 160 tip is a GINZA tip price or the girl just sucks? I was thinking of doing Julie again. I'm surprised there isn't a report on her like every week. Anyone know if Mona came back from vacation?

[QUOTE=YG365;1340657]Every country is racist! In Thailand and the Philippines, Indian people from India simply get no love anywhere![/QUOTE]True to some extent, but in japan, they discriminate against you even by the type of job you and your family have been involved in (I. E. Burakumin).

[QUOTE=YG365;1340657]Seriously! In other parts of Asia, Blacks aren't usually treated as equals.[/QUOTE]Don't have to go to asia, that happens here a lot in the good old us of a.

[QUOTE=YG365;1340657]Try go to Korea or Mainland China a lot of the people don't like white people either.[/QUOTE]That's waikiki after 1 a. M. Or the entire waianae coast.

[QUOTE=YG365;1340657]I think most of Asia don't like the Chinese either.[/QUOTE]What's to like?

[QUOTE=YG365;1340657]I know a lot of people in Europe that don't care for Americans. A lot of people in Paris hate Americans.[/QUOTE]Like we give two shits about anyone else?

[QUOTE=YG365; 1340657]And what about the middle east? They'll figure out some way to kill you once they figure out you're American.

It's just a way of life.[/QUOTE]If you knew the history and politics of american influence in the area, you might understand the reasons behind anti-americanism in the region. It's not like one day some imam woke up and decided to declare a jihad on america just for shits and giggles.

Twas the week before Christmas, & all thru SEVEN's house,

Not a provider was busy, they were all on the couch.

But the one I went there for, was in a room getting laid,

So the other girls tried smiling at me, in hopes of getting paid.

My appointment had been made, there was no other way to get her,

I just had her last week, but I've never had better.

So I wait in a room, after paying mamasan 50 bucks,

I'll still have to pay 150 more, so that kind of sucks.

When outside the door, I hear footsteps from heels,

In walks my ATF, seriously this time, my ATF for reals.

She smiles & greets me, with a big hug & a kiss,

Mmmh CHANNEL, the #1 pick on my holiday wish list.

We hit the showers to get clean, & at the same time get dirty,

Channel's lookin real purrrty, & acting real flirty.

Gave me a soapy H-Jay with ball play, & cleaned the hole in my A,

Knowing soon it would be her mouth taking care of me this way!

Back in the room, I'm ready to go staright for the BJ,

After Channel sets up her music that she always likes to play.

1st a little Russian, titty fuckin, butt rubbin foreplay,

And my favorite, some good old fashioned L-F-K!

Now my cock needs that mouth, that throat, that tongue,

For me a good blowjob is always the most fun.

And for a great suck, no need to look for no other,

Channel gives the best BJ I've had, whether BB or covered.

She asks me if I'm ready, but theres one more thing on my mind,

I think its time, for the Splooge to finally go out & dine.

Got her ready for the sixty nine, & that pussy is fine,

Then I try every technique from that book in American Pie.

I wanted to make her feel good, just for a little bit,

OK enough of this, back to taking care of me & my dick.

She hops on Reverse Cowgirl, riding me how I like,

Then spins into Cowgirl, OMG what a sight.

I'm pretty close to climax, so I know what must be done,

Bend her ass over, for some styles of doggy fun.

On all fours in front of me, she's screaming at the top of her lungs,

And she now holds the new record for fastest to make me cum.

After another shower, I got a massage to end the hour,

I'll be repeating again, if my penis has the power.

Tipped Channel the usual, then hugged her goodbye,

Uhh, Oh yea, Happy Holidays to all, & to all a good night.

[QUOTE=King Cobrack; 1340709]L- Positives: Appears Eurasian, Korean / White mix. 5'4" and weighs about 110-115 pounds, IMO her beautiful face reminds me of pornstar Asia Carrerre even if she really don't look like her, nice C's. D's, solid muscualr arms, and nice poji. From breasts up, L-9 for AMP standards. Negatives: Has a slight fold on belly as she had a child, flat ass and skinny muscular legs. Her ass is so flat and muscular as it reminds me of the ridges on turkey tails after you've stripped it down to the bone. From tummy down, L-5. IMHO. If her bottom half was up to par with her upper half, I'd give her 10++ in L for AMP standards and 9 overall.

A- We clicked so she was pleasant, joking, cynical, passionate but what f'ed it up was she complained that I was taking too long and double popping. That killed the mood. I could see that she was abiding but was gettting irritated. A- Would have been 10++ but because of complaints 8.

S-Allowed DFK and was passionate but made it known to me that she really don't DFK. I kept at it with persistence and she never complained again. Liked her nipples sucked and loved DATY and would make passionate moaning sounds and wether real or not, it did it for me. Didn't like suspended congress and "demanded" I put her down but I didn't really care as when I looked in the mirror, I saw her flat, muscular ass and skinny legs which was a turnoff. Capn Morgan posted that she declined DS but allowed with me. I saw that she was uncomfortable and was moaning loud. In DS, she probably can't take it too deep. Her moaning in DS was like how the girls moan in JAV. Some bruddahs might like this but for some reason felt pity for her. Capn Morgan must have a "Hammer" for her to refuse DS from him. She took a chance with me. She does BBBJ and all other positions mentioned in Capn's report.

S-8. Only because DFK came with menu. To date, most passionate DFK for me. Her DFK and moaning at the same time is passionate. Damn, I love that.

King Cobrack[/QUOTE]There is 2 Michelle one at Pink and one at Raponggi. The one at Ronponggi change her name To Michelle her old name was Holly. Both are nice looking girls.

Happy Mongering

[QUOTE=Stoner R;1340717]I thought coco was w / monica at the new 321 place?[/QUOTE]Reports here says she's back at CHM, can anybody confirm this?

[QUOTE=Pineapple50; 1338750]A few months back. Someone was claiming that she had Chlamydia and this was why she left the islands and went back to Cali. For awhile. (Please check the older posts) I have seen Christy a few time prior to this news and I always got BBBJ and DFK from her. She is a Great Kisser!

JT.[/QUOTE]When there's a lot of girls working in one AMP, sometimes conflicts arise due to many reasons and one being jealousy. Chrissy had said that the stress due to conflict with co-workers can be greater than dealing with unruly customers. There was a provider who didn't like her and started the chlamydia rumour about her. She stays in Hawaii six weeks on and then leaves for a month vacation at a time and goes to Cali. KC

[QUOTE=Pineapple50; 1338750) I have seen Christy a few time prior to this news and I always got BBBJ and DFK from her. She is a Great Kisser![/QUOTE]Lucky Dog Pineapple50, she didn't allow BBBJ but allowed a lot of DFK which was also passionate.

L- Christy is Vietnamese. 26 years old, stands 5'4" without heels and 5'7" with heels, fair complexion, about shoulder length hair, man made cees, tight, solid arms, very cute face, slight belly fold, not much, nice snug poji, and nice ass hip combination IMO. Her looks does it for me. Her looks are exotic (different as majority of provides at AMP's are Koreans) , IMO. I'm getting a hard-on just thinking about her. L-9.

A-Christy was very pleasant from the start, talkative, joking when she became comfortable with me, aims to please, very, very abiding, and just a very good demeanor. It wasn't very busy yesterday and that could be a reason. She had a lot of energy. Her attitude reminds me of Donna (Pinks) but more highly sexed. A-10+

S-We started the session with LFK which progressed to DFK as I always try to DFK the provider first and if unsuccessful, I still keep trying until I succeed. DFK came easy. We clicked from the start. She's a very passionate kisser. She started off with CBJ and didn't allow BBBJ even to the end. Maybe YMMV as Pineapple did get BBBJ from her. All standard positions switching frequently but she requested DS and I think this is her favorite position. Moaning intensified in this position. Very energetic tonight and no complaints even if constantly switching positions. I loved her CG and even took some pointers on how to bump and grind. I was trying to teach her how Ivy (7) does her high torque CG. It'll take practice. But kept on it until she got exhausted. She was unable to handle SC as she through self back onto bed the first time and second time I placed her back away from the bed. She just hung on. That's a damn good position. I finished off in mish. More DFK at the end. TS was basic and she did scrub my entire body with her hands. Too date as of 12/18/11, she's the best GFE I've ever had. I like the feeling when I leave and I tell myself that I'm in love with her and want to marry her and it lasts a couple of days. Then I go back to normal. Her DFK is almost comparable to Michelle (Pinks). I will definitely repeat. She just took over Alice's (Pinks) for the repeats. S-9. Would've been 10 if allowed BBBJ.

My friend who came with me and had Sindhi had the same experience. I don't know if the MS lost track of time but the knock came at 50 minutes. At the beginning, it took Christy 5 minutes before she came back in room. So total 45 minutes with her before knock. She came knocking twice to tell us time was up and knocked three times to tell Sindhi her time was up with my friend. Are all the AMP's in "cahoots" with each other and trying to get the service time to 45 minutes? I posted my experience at GQ and honestly, it also happened at Pinks also. Exactly 45 minutes.

King Cobrack

My friend still don't want to post but wants me to post for him. I'll write it in this format and the LAS format.

S-"It was a good night! She was Hot!"

O-He's smiling, happy, and euphoric when making above statement.

A-Content and pleasured.

P-Discharge to try other providers. LOL.

L-I got good look and Sindhi also and my friend and I both agreed on her looks. Sindhi appears hapa mix probably because of the highlighted hair and the orange outfit she wore, judging her face only appearing about 35 years old. 5'3" and weighs about 110 pounds, man made cees to dees, slim, tight body, and like Splooge describes her as having a body of an import model. According to my friend, her boobs was very hard. One thing he didn't like about her. You look closely at her and she does appear older and this is were everyone will differ on their opinion on how pretty her face is. L-9.

A-My friend described her as pleasant, cheerful, and wanting to please him. A-9.

S-No LFK, DFK, or DATY. Only LK to his lips. Even as we were walking out, she kept kissing him lightly on the lips. That lifted his self esteem a lot. He said that it was straight fuck in all standard positions but he wasn't able to come and opted for HJ. I asked if she rushed him and he said that she was more encouraging for him to cum because she was getting really tired and was getting disappointed that he wasn't finishing. Despite this service, he rated her an S-9. He did like the TS / massage combo on the table but wish it could've been at the end. He won't repeat as he wants GFE and can't wait to get some funds to try Christy.

On way out, she hugged me and I asked if I could get a kiss on the lips too, and she told me no and walked away. We just laughed.

Jusy my assessment of PT. The waiting area was well lit and I was able to see majority of the girls. Only Christy and Sindhi are high up in looks. Everyone that was on the couch looked older and typical "run of the mill" AMP girl. Again, it's your opinion.

King Cobrack

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck;1341025]Any chance you kno if the 160 tip is a GINZA tip price or the girl just sucks? I was thinking of doing Julie again. I'm surprised there isn't a report on her like every week. Anyone know if Mona came back from vacation?[/QUOTE]I really don't think so. I just ndver go in with any thing but 20s. So usually rounding it up. Bebe never looked at what I gave her though.