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If anyone has trouble using a prepaid cc for sa, wait an hour after registering it before trying to use it on sa.
It's worked immediately after registering for me in the past but for whatever reason this time it was initially declined. I called the cc and they said you have to wait sometimes for the registration to process.
This was with visa [URL]prepaidgiftbalance.com[/URL].
Just FYI maybe help someone.
You can buy a GPS tracker off Amazon for $30 and the company will charge you another $20 to use the service. It isn't like this is a new concern. If you want to avoid this all together just don't have the SB know what vehicle you drive.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5459351]Well, if your SO or "warden" is tracking you that closely, she's most likely suspicious about your activities anyway. Personally, I'd worry more about some SB dropping it down in the seat of a car.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColinRva;5458534]Anyone have any info? Only reports a few years old. Thank you.[/QUOTE]She is a lot of fun once you get to know her. Definitely looking for chemistry and wants to meet first. Likes to meet for dinner or drinks. Not a hard drug user. Known her for a couple of years now. She is particular on who she connects with. Treat her with respect will go a long way to establishing rapport.
Search for BW being sued for terminating spokesperson as he says SA is in crisis over Matt Gaetz revelations.
[QUOTE=EasyGoingJ;5460919]Search for BW being sued for terminating spokesperson as he says SA is in crisis over Matt Gaetz revelations.[/QUOTE]I read that three times, and can't decipher it's meaning.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5461050]I read that three times, and can't decipher it's meaning.[/QUOTE]Brandon Wade / SA is being sued by Rachael Uchitel for early termination of a six month contract to be a spokesperson for SA.
His response was that SA was " in crisis " due to the publicity surrounding Congressman Matt Gaetz and his allegedly procuring girls from SA for parties, etc, one of whom was allegedly underage at the time. Hope this clears up my vague post.
Bottom line is the walls may be closing in on Mr Wade and SA.
A quick search should give more details if I have some details wrong and missing.
[QUOTE=EasyGoingJ;5461162]Brandon Wade / SA is being sued by Rachael Uchitel for early termination of a six month contract to be a spokesperson for SA.
His response was that SA was " in crisis " due to the publicity surrounding Congressman Matt Gaetz and his allegedly procuring girls from SA for parties, etc, one of whom was allegedly underage at the time. Hope this clears up my vague post.
Bottom line is the walls may be closing in on Mr Wade and SA.
A quick search should give more details if I have some details wrong and missing.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. $260 K for a six month contract isn't very much. The fact that he can't or won't pay her out the remaining $80 K is an indicator that the company is hurting. I found the link below. Nothing I'd refer to as a viable news source, but there could be some truth in there.
Rachel Uchitel sues Seeking Arrangement for breach of contract DNyuz.
[URL]https://dnyuz.com/2021/07/22/rachel-uchitel-sues-seeking-arrangement-for-breach-of-contract/[/URL]
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5461209]That's interesting. $260 K for a six month contract isn't very much. The fact that he can't or won't pay her out the remaining $80 K is an indicator that the company is hurting. I found the link below. Nothing I'd refer to as a viable news source, but there could be some truth in there.
Rachel Uchitel sues Seeking Arrangement for breach of contract DNyuz.
[URL]https://dnyuz.com/2021/07/22/rachel-uchitel-sues-seeking-arrangement-for-breach-of-contract/[/URL][/QUOTE]Eh, what is the definition of "hurting?" Making $30 MM per year instead of $50 MM? If you use BP as an example those guys were printing cash right and left, maybe $100 MM year year at the end.
Kinda curious that BW wouldn't just pay her to go away, but some dudes stand on principle.
Certainly since FOSTA-SESTA passed SA has had to get stringent about weeding out obvious prostitution. But what brought down BP was the fact that under-aged girs were trafficked on the site, relatives complained when they found the girls on there, and BP did nothing. Maybe some eager prosecutor will take a run at SA? But I suspect, seeing the changes, that BW has insulated his cash cow as much as possible.
More likely the year of the pandemic has hurt them as babies were afraid to meet. Perhaps as the new school year starts and many are required to get the shot, then things will "come back?" We'll see.
I just assumed that even following High Level OpSec, I would be the one to eventually get snagged. Turns out, my stepson was cheating on his wife and got the girl pregnant. Makes me really think I need to take a step back for awhile.
For the next few months I am going to ditch the second phone and delete everything.
When it comes time to start over, I will start over from scratch. Never become complacent about your OpSec and always be willing to nuke everything and disappear from the bowl for awhile.
[QUOTE=FigLeaf;5462250]I just assumed that even following High Level OpSec, I would be the one to eventually get snagged. Turns out, my stepson was cheating on his wife and got the girl pregnant. Makes me really think I need to take a step back for awhile.
For the next few months I am going to ditch the second phone and delete everything.
When it comes time to start over, I will start over from scratch. Never become complacent about your OpSec and always be willing to nuke everything and disappear from the bowl for awhile.[/QUOTE]From what you describe, I'm not sure it was OpSec issues that brought down your stepson. Sounds like it was more like not being careful where he spilled his seed.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5462357]From what you describe, I'm not sure it was OpSec issues that brought down your stepson. Sounds like it was more like not being careful where he spilled his seed.[/QUOTE]True but, I am not going to take the chance that the warden starts casting an eye of doubt my way.
Wanted to give a shout out to all the members that shared their successful tips on getting back on sa after being banned. The tips worked perfectly.
Anyone have any info on this one?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7934fc10-ff65-4a8c-837f-cd7670a93cd7[/URL]
Rentahoo your pm box is full my man.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5459416]Logged into SA today, for me they are currently offering a 20% discount. I have a trip to Vegas at the end of August, some of it alone, I think I'll try fishing in a new sugar bowl.[/QUOTE]Were you able to get the discount to work? I see the same discount advertised on the mobile site, but there's no link to click on the ad and when I get to the payment screen no discount appears.
[QUOTE=FigLeaf;5462407]True but, I am not going to take the chance that the warden starts casting an eye of doubt my way.[/QUOTE]Once the seed of suspicion is planted, it is nearly impossible to uproot and kill.
Got busted a few years back, but upped my OPSEC game and have had smooth sailing until Saturday night.
A few weeks ago, I was at my wife's office, took some measurements for something she needed installed, and went to Lowe's to buy it. I innocently put the pen in my pocket and it floated around in life unnoticed until Saturday night when it fell out of my gym back when I was cleaning it out. It was a branded pen from a hotel and she went white as a ghost. It took hours for her to calm down and I reminded her it wasn't a hotel brand that exists within 100 miles of here and 2 years ago her team went to a conference at one of their hotels and my wife and I had gone to that same conference 3 years ago and I'm sure someone brought back pens they used taking notes etc.
But what a scare!
[QUOTE=Lobsid;5459528]You can buy a GPS tracker off Amazon for $30 and the company will charge you another $20 to use the service. It isn't like this is a new concern. If you want to avoid this all together just don't have the SB know what vehicle you drive.[/QUOTE]I think these are a game changer -- in that they are NOT GPS -- and just use Apple's "Mesh" network of Blu-tooth.
ALSO - $25 each (when bought as 4) and there is NO recurring charge.
Just WAY too easy for anybody with an iPhone to get a few -- register to their account and drop in a secret location.
Obviously we have THREE issues here -- all different:
1. Warden tracking you (and I agree if she is on to you then you already have big problems).
2. SB who wants to find out who you really are. This can be dangerous if she has really fallen for you or blackmail.
3. Rogue SD or monger who is stalking. If this went south it would hit the national press!
Just food for thought!
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5464491]Once the seed of suspicion is planted, it is nearly impossible to uproot and kill.
Got busted a few years back, but upped my OPSEC game and have had smooth sailing until Saturday night.
A few weeks ago, I was at my wife's office, took some measurements for something she needed installed, and went to Lowe's to buy it. I innocently put the pen in my pocket and it floated around in life unnoticed until Saturday night when it fell out of my gym back when I was cleaning it out. It was a branded pen from a hotel and she went white as a ghost. It took hours for her to calm down and I reminded her it wasn't a hotel brand that exists within 100 miles of here and 2 years ago her team went to a conference at one of their hotels and my wife and I had gone to that same conference 3 years ago and I'm sure someone brought back pens they used taking notes etc.
But what a scare![/QUOTE]How'd you get busted the first time? I tend to agree regarding the seed. While I have no SO, I think if I did and got busted, I'd just call it a day and either break it off or get divorced. It just doesn't seem like something that can be overcome.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5464815]How'd you get busted the first time? I tend to agree regarding the seed. While I have no SO, I think if I did and got busted, I'd just call it a day and either break it off or get divorced. It just doesn't seem like something that can be overcome.[/QUOTE]I was careless / stupid.
Hotel key was found.
I sure wish there was a way to eliminate all the out of towners from messaging and favoring me. It is very annoying. LOL.
[QUOTE=BobbyRichmond;5465225]I sure wish there was a way to eliminate all the out of towners from messaging and favoring me. It is very annoying. LOL.[/QUOTE]Same here. It is annoying as hell to have to delete 20+ foreign favorites a day. That haven't even viewed your profile.
There is a way to filter the messages from hitting your main inbox. That cuts down on some of the noise. But you still have to delete them.
[QUOTE=BobbyRichmond;5465225]I sure wish there was a way to eliminate all the out of towners from messaging and favoring me. It is very annoying. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hide your profile from search. I always do it that way. If you visit a girl's profile, or of course if you favorite or message her, she can see your profile. Otherwise, you can't be found.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5464886]I was careless / stupid.
Hotel key was found.[/QUOTE]Deny deny deny. It's always gonna be in their head but as long as you never admitted it they really not sure.
[QUOTE=HotHot;5464027]Were you able to get the discount to work? I see the same discount advertised on the mobile site, but there's no link to click on the ad and when I get to the payment screen no discount appears.[/QUOTE]It did work. I logged on and waited for a window to pop up, clicked the link, and a discount code was added to the 'Upgrade' page. And, I am using a new branding of the old OneVanilla prepaid debit card. It is now called SecureSpend. At my pharmacy, it rang on the cash register receipt with the same name, though.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5465747]Deny deny deny. It's always gonna be in their head but as long as you never admitted it they really not sure.[/QUOTE]And no explaining a key for a hotel that is unique to our town.
And every book / counselor / etc about overcoming infidelity says you have to admit it to move forward.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5466444]And no explaining a key for a hotel that is unique to our town.
And every book / counselor / etc about overcoming infidelity says you have to admit it to move forward.[/QUOTE]That's like getting arrested and them telling you it be better if you admit it. Maybe it worked for you but my motto is stfu when confronted. They could have me on video and it ain't me I don't know. Book or counselors obviously don't know women. She gunna bring that shit up forever. Good luck.
I have a potential good situation and just wonder if anyone has attempted this. A very cute girl on a local Facebook group posted that she was looking for a job. Has anyone ever approached a girl out of the blue about being a potential SB in this type of scenario? If so what was your opening lines? Also I have an alternate FB profile that doesn't have any pics or real info about me. Thanks.
[QUOTE=WilyBird63;5468128]I have a potential good situation and just wonder if anyone has attempted this. A very cute girl on a local Facebook group posted that she was looking for a job. Has anyone ever approached a girl out of the blue about being a potential SB in this type of scenario? If so what was your opening lines? Also I have an alternate FB profile that doesn't have any pics or real info about me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have a family member that does that. He just sends them a message asking if they need help. He sometimes tells them he needs them to come over to his house to help with tasks. Kinda lays it out there without outright saying it. He mainly sends messages to girls who use to be addicts or strippers. So, I'm not sure how this girl fits the mold.
[QUOTE=WilyBird63;5468128]I have a potential good situation and just wonder if anyone has attempted this. A very cute girl on a local Facebook group posted that she was looking for a job. Has anyone ever approached a girl out of the blue about being a potential SB in this type of scenario? If so what was your opening lines? Also I have an alternate FB profile that doesn't have any pics or real info about me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes. It can be done == but go very slowly -- do not scare them off -- and ask in such a way as it can be misconstrued and you can back away. No danger to you as such. But FB may put you in FB jail if you are too direct and she reports you.
Drop hints and see if she bites -- if she is interested, she will tell you. No need to be obvious!
SA.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5466985]That's like getting arrested and them telling you it be better if you admit it. Maybe it worked for you but my motto is stfu when confronted. They could have me on video and it ain't me I don't know. Book or counselors obviously don't know women. She gunna bring that shit up forever. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Police and wives are different. No rules of evidence apply in marriages. I doubt you could deny and let it go without a reasonable explanation of why there's a local hotel key in your pocket. Pre-covid, I traveled 75% of the time. A hotel key from a national chain floating around in my stuff was just another day ending in the letter "Y". A local hotel? That would be weird.
Again, I don't have an SO, so I can't say for sure.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5465747]Deny deny deny. It's always gonna be in their head but as long as you never admitted it they really not sure.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
I present you to you. The Crisis Control Plan.
1. Silence.
If you know about it, stay quiet.
. . . Until evidence is presented.
2. Flat denial.
Denial – "That doesn't seem right," "Really?" or "I can't believe that. ".
Answer questions honestly, but do not provide additional information.
Sympathize with any victims.
Use delay tactics.
. . Until reasonable evidence is presented.
3. Angry denial.
Staunch angry denial – "How can you believe that?" or "Are you serious?" or "This seems so silly and out of the ordinary. "
Seek to show plausible deniability.
Identify the accuser and begin research.
Continue delay tactics.
. . Until evidence is overwhelming.
DENY, DENY, DENY.
While you are HAIR SPLITTING THE EVIDENCE.
Attack the evidence with hair splitting, nit-picking definitions and the reasonings, "What exactly do you mean by _ or "You obviously haven't considered _ or "This is a very sensitive situation" . . .
Include defining motives and alibis: Why and Where.
Identify the scapegoat.
Continue delay tactics.
. . MEANWHILE.
As you are actively STALLING FOR TIME, insist on the complete use of due process. Insist on viewing the documentation and evidence and meeting the accuser. Prepare for offense engagement with thorough informational research of the accuser and the scapegoat.
5. VIGOROUS ATTACK OF THE ACCUSER.
Make your attack from all angles, motives, and possible motives. "So what do you have to gain from this?" "You've been looking for your chance", or "You are not telling the truth. " Do whatever possible to discredit the accuser.
6. PRESENT THE SCAPEGOAT.
Shift the blame to another. Blame several others and by any means possible.
Cloud the issue with alternate theories and reasonable doubt.
7. ADMISSION & APOLOGIZE.
As a last possible circumstance, reluctantly and shamefully admit that a misunderstanding has been made. Provide rationale (s), vigorously apologize, claim you have learned from your mistake (s), pay fines / fees, and beg for forgiveness.
8. RE-DIRECT.
Quickly redirect attention to other matters.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5464886]I was careless / stupid.
Hotel key was found.[/QUOTE]I keep a stack of about 50 key cards--and there are others around the house. Now, it's no big deal if there's a stray key card laying around.
[QUOTE=TodaysNooner;5468584]Gentlemen,
I present you to you. The Crisis Control Plan.
1. Silence.
If you know about it, stay quiet.
. . . Until evidence is presented.
2. Flat denial.
Denial "That doesn't seem right," "Really?" or "I can't believe that. ".
Answer questions honestly, but do not provide additional information.
Sympathize with any victims.
Use delay tactics.
. . Until reasonable evidence is presented.
3. Angry denial.
Staunch angry denial "How can you believe that?" or "Are you serious?" or "This seems so silly and out of the ordinary. "
Seek to show plausible deniability.[/QUOTE]That's pretty good except at end admission lmao. There is no way I'm admitting to anything because once you do it's pretty much over. A good women or man for that matter can forgive a lot of crap but cheating is not one of them. Most times there's no coming back from the mistrust because every time you go out or your late that is rolling around in their brain. Good luck be safe be smart.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5470636]That's pretty good except at end admission lmao. There is no way I'm admitting to anything because once you do it's pretty much over. A good women or man for that matter can forgive a lot of crap but cheating is not one of them. Most times there's no coming back from the mistrust because every time you go out or your late that is rolling around in their brain. Good luck be safe be smart.[/QUOTE]I'm not a good judge of significant others, but seriously, if you have one that will let it go just because you refuse to confess, then I'd offer that you married poorly. Or very successfully depending on what you really want in a partner. LOL.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5470636]That's pretty good except at end admission lmao. There is no way I'm admitting to anything because once you do it's pretty much over. A good women or man for that matter [b]can forgive a lot of crap but cheating is not one of them. Most times there's no coming back from the mistrust because every time you go out or your late that is rolling around in their brain.[/b] Good luck be safe be smart.[/QUOTE]Just saying, that if someone truly forgives then there should be no more or the "coming back" stuff. If she can't forgive then yeah, you have the sword of Damocles hanging over your head.
I knew a dude who had a high leverage job and often was sanctioned by management to go get a room, so there was quiet for their work. So there was a reason for key cards in the briefcase.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5464886]
Hotel key was found.[/QUOTE]I know -- this is how it happens. Something little. 98% of the time I leave the key in the room when I leave; one less thing to remember. But I've put it in my pocket and found it later.
Leave the key. Don't take a printed receipt. You don't even need to stop at the desk to check out. I make a beeline for the door; also reduces chances of running into someone I know if I'm in my home area.
If you buy condoms and don't use them, throw them away. Stop and buy more next time. Don't have them found for trying to save $6. 00 or whatever.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5471254]Just saying, that if someone truly forgives then there should be no more or the "coming back" stuff. If she can't forgive then yeah, you have the sword of Damocles hanging over your head.
I knew a dude who had a high leverage job and often was sanctioned by management to go get a room, so there was quiet for their work. So there was a reason for key cards in the briefcase.[/QUOTE]We talking about women though. Not sure how many serious relationships anybody has been in but in my experience women don't forget nothing and will bring it up at anytime. Now maybe you have that perfect women and relationship but then you got to ask yourself why you cheating? Right now I have no SO so no skin in this discussion just my experience with opposite sex. Be safe.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5471485] Something little[/QUOTE]Yep, its never an SO following you to the hotel or walking in to you office while the "temp" is bent over your desk.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5471485] 98% of the time I leave the key in the room when I leave; one less thing to remember. But I've put it in my pocket and found it later.[/QUOTE]I usually get them to book it in their name, so there is no receipt and THEY are the ones checking in, but only if I am doing the PM / AM double header do I ever take a key.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5471485]You don't even need to stop at the desk to check out. I make a beeline for the door; also reduces chances of running into someone I know if I'm in my home area.[/QUOTE]Yep, and even worse in a smaller towns in Central VA. I won't book rooms locally -- don't need the papertrail. 90% of the time I know the SBs real name and book it in their name via [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] and once I trust them I can paypal them the $$ to book, but lingering ina lobby while a clueless clerk takes their time and tries to make small talk is a nightmare. Plus, in most hotels now, the name on the registration is what shows up on the TV for video check out, so you don't want an SB able to look for QVC and find your name!
[QUOTE=Bran001;5471485] If you buy condoms and don't use them, throw them away. Stop and buy more next time. Don't have them found for trying to save $6. 00 or whatever.[/QUOTE]Yep Being cheap will bite you in the ass. Don't bother trying to get points for hotel stays eitehr!
[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5471549]Plus, in most hotels now, the name on the registration is what shows up on the TV [/QUOTE]In some chains the name is on the TV from the moment of check-in. It's usually on the screen along with some annoying music, so I make a beeline for the remote and click it off. Super annoying and a reason to avoid those chains if possible. I forget which ones do that; I don't THINK the Marriott chains do.
[QUOTE=Bran001;5471647]In some chains the name is on the TV from the moment of check-in. It's usually on the screen along with some annoying music, so I make a beeline for the remote and click it off. Super annoying and a reason to avoid those chains if possible. I forget which ones do that; I don't THINK the Marriott chains do.[/QUOTE]Hilton I think does it.