Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=LordGlic;3380645]New to the area here in Charleston, happy to have found this site. Figure I'll share a few reports since I have been here about a month now.

Started at Rivers Spa. Walked in around 6 pm on a Sunday and the place was empty. Got Cici,(seemed to be 30's, about a 6/10) 70 in the door and 50 tip. The massage was lackluster but not particularly bad. Asked for medium and got medium. Did get interrupted to go answer the phone which was odd to me cause I seemed to be the only customer but she wasn't the only employee. I could hear others walking around and talking. At the end of the back she started a lot of teasing and was very good at it. On the flip she was fine with OTC and UTC, even helped me get good access under to her chest. Took a bottle of water and walked away happy enough.

A week later I tried to do another walk in, this time to Zen on Ashley phosphate, it was going to be a 30 minute wait at the time so I left and found an add for Rainbow a few minutes away. Went there and walked in to a very skinny woman, maybe late 30's, probably 40's though didn't catch her name. 60 in the door and 40 tip. Asked for medium again and got an OK massage a little bit of teasing before the flip. She seemed a bit more shy and reserved so on the flip I kept my hands to my self except for a little OTC, end was good and I left.

The following week I thought hard about repeating Rivers and Cici, but I had found this site through google (wasnt a member yet) and read good stuff about Zen, so I decided to take another crack at it instead. Called ahead this time and when I showed up I was taken to my room by Sunny (I think that's her name, maybe Sunyi?) Declined the TS and went with an hour, 80 and 50 tip. She was quiet, but friendly at first did an ok job on the massage gave some good teasing throughout the entire back and placed my hands in some fun areas. I was excited until the flip, she changed. Did a great job but seemed to rush all of a sudden, ok with some OTC touching but blocked anything else. Then as I left she changed again and became very playful. I thought to myself "wow, this chick is a handful".

Leading up to Tonight. I went to scope out another place (will talk about it below), then called and found Sunny was working at Zen so I decided to give her another chance. Went there and when I came through the door she greeted me like an old friend. Took the TS and went with an hour again. Same price and tip. TS was amazing, she was talkative, playful, and thorough. The massage was the best I have had in a long time. Great even compared to professional legit massages I have had. The high spirits and playfulness continued and there was a lot of teasing and even encouragement for OTC touching. On the flip she was top notch, great OTC, and even invited some light UTC. She is definitely worth a visit to, or rather multiple visits to. LOL.

The place I was trying to scope out tonight was this [URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/843-499-7498-charming-massage-new-in-town-asian-massage/15891703[/URL].

Followed GPS to the location they list to scope out the area, but the address is a Dialysis clinic. Seems fishy, Anyone have experience with it?[/QUOTE]I don't know if was me but when I went there it was a middle aged mamasan that was there and the place looked more like a family setting. I walked right out. It's been over a year I went to rivers spa. Only two women was there and they wasn't worth looking at but the massage was A1. I did notice they have a new sign up which means they have new management. I might have to plunge into this soon LOL.

Well done and keep it up.

[QUOTE=LordGlic;3380645]New to the area here in Charleston, happy to have found this site. Figure I'll share a few reports since I have been here about a month now.

Started at Rivers Spa. Walked in around 6 pm on a Sunday and the place was empty. Got Cici,(seemed to be 30's, about a 6/10) 70 in the door and 50 tip. The massage was lackluster but not particularly bad. Asked for medium and got medium. Did get interrupted to go answer the phone which was odd to me cause I seemed to be the only customer but she wasn't the only employee. I could hear others walking around and talking. At the end of the back she started a lot of teasing and was very good at it. On the flip she was fine with OTC and UTC, even helped me get good access under to her chest. Took a bottle of water and walked away happy enough.

A week later I tried to do another walk in, this time to Zen on Ashley phosphate, it was going to be a 30 minute wait at the time so I left and found an add for Rainbow a few minutes away. Went there and walked in to a very skinny woman, maybe late 30's, probably 40's though didn't catch her name. 60 in the door and 40 tip. Asked for medium again and got an OK massage a little bit of teasing before the flip. She seemed a bit more shy and reserved so on the flip I kept my hands to my self except for a little OTC, end was good and I left.

The following week I thought hard about repeating Rivers and Cici, but I had found this site through google (wasnt a member yet) and read good stuff about Zen, so I decided to take another crack at it instead. Called ahead this time and when I showed up I was taken to my room by Sunny (I think that's her name, maybe Sunyi?) Declined the TS and went with an hour, 80 and 50 tip. She was quiet, but friendly at first did an ok job on the massage gave some good teasing throughout the entire back and placed my hands in some fun areas. I was excited until the flip, she changed. Did a great job but seemed to rush all of a sudden, ok with some OTC touching but blocked anything else. Then as I left she changed again and became very playful. I thought to myself "wow, this chick is a handful".

Leading up to Tonight. I went to scope out another place (will talk about it below), then called and found Sunny was working at Zen so I decided to give her another chance. Went there and when I came through the door she greeted me like an old friend. Took the TS and went with an hour again. Same price and tip. TS was amazing, she was talkative, playful, and thorough. The massage was the best I have had in a long time. Great even compared to professional legit massages I have had. The high spirits and playfulness continued and there was a lot of teasing and even encouragement for OTC touching. On the flip she was top notch, great OTC, and even invited some light UTC. She is definitely worth a visit to, or rather multiple visits to. LOL.

The place I was trying to scope out tonight was this [URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/843-499-7498-charming-massage-new-in-town-asian-massage/15891703[/URL].

Followed GPS to the location they list to scope out the area, but the address is a Dialysis clinic. Seems fishy, Anyone have experience with it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LordGlic;3380645]New to the area here in Charleston, happy to have found this site. Figure I'll share a few reports since I have been here about a month now.

Started at Rivers Spa. Walked in around 6 pm on a Sunday and the place was empty. Got Cici,(seemed to be 30's, about a 6/10) 70 in the door and 50 tip. The massage was lackluster but not particularly bad. Asked for medium and got medium. Did get interrupted to go answer the phone which was odd to me cause I seemed to be the only customer but she wasn't the only employee. I could hear others walking around and talking. At the end of the back she started a lot of teasing and was very good at it. On the flip she was fine with OTC and UTC, even helped me get good access under to her chest. Took a bottle of water and walked away happy enough.

A week later I tried to do another walk in, this time to Zen on Ashley phosphate, it was going to be a 30 minute wait at the time so I left and found an add for Rainbow a few minutes away. Went there and walked in to a very skinny woman, maybe late 30's, probably 40's though didn't catch her name. 60 in the door and 40 tip. Asked for medium again and got an OK massage a little bit of teasing before the flip. She seemed a bit more shy and reserved so on the flip I kept my hands to my self except for a little OTC, end was good and I left.

The following week I thought hard about repeating Rivers and Cici, but I had found this site through google (wasnt a member yet) and read good stuff about Zen, so I decided to take another crack at it instead. Called ahead this time and when I showed up I was taken to my room by Sunny (I think that's her name, maybe Sunyi?) Declined the TS and went with an hour, 80 and 50 tip. She was quiet, but friendly at first did an ok job on the massage gave some good teasing throughout the entire back and placed my hands in some fun areas. I was excited until the flip, she changed. Did a great job but seemed to rush all of a sudden, ok with some OTC touching but blocked anything else. Then as I left she changed again and became very playful. I thought to myself "wow, this chick is a handful".

Leading up to Tonight. I went to scope out another place (will talk about it below), then called and found Sunny was working at Zen so I decided to give her another chance. Went there and when I came through the door she greeted me like an old friend. Took the TS and went with an hour again. Same price and tip. TS was amazing, she was talkative, playful, and thorough. The massage was the best I have had in a long time. Great even compared to professional legit massages I have had. The high spirits and playfulness continued and there was a lot of teasing and even encouragement for OTC touching. On the flip she was top notch, great OTC, and even invited some light UTC. She is definitely worth a visit to, or rather multiple visits to. LOL.

The place I was trying to scope out tonight was this [URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/843-499-7498-charming-massage-new-in-town-asian-massage/15891703[/URL].

Followed GPS to the location they list to scope out the area, but the address is a Dialysis clinic. Seems fishy, Anyone have experience with it?[/QUOTE]Yup it's next to the Dialysis clinic. History has been -- when they first opened totally legit. Then they relaxed and it seemed it depend upon who you got. Have not seen a report in awhile so can not tell you what to expect.

[QUOTE=LordGlic;3379107]New here,

Wondering if anyone has any information on one of these below:

[URL]http // charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-sexy-young-korean-girls-new-arrived-call-5104936225/17338798[/URL]

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/busty-lovely-asian-korean-girl-full-nuru-incall-now-5104936225/17329188[/URL]

Tried to give these a call but no one answers the phone and mailbox is full. Nonetheless they continue to posts multiple times a day. Scam maybe?

Or this one, even tho I'm more into AMPs:

[URL]http//charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/good-Saturday-morning-courtney-new-Saturday-only-and-kadence-open-9-30 am-3 pm/16369343[/URL][/QUOTE]The two links that I got to work are a wandering Asian massage / FS that works out of a motel. They come and go just be careful, normally $130 for a HH and $160 for an hour.

[QUOTE=ChasMale;3380015]Sorry but I totally disagree. The tip was for the work given and not going back is the business lost for not doing a happy ending. My normal tip is 40- 50. I go sometime 6-8 times a month and 75% is always a return visit to a place that provides HE but 25% of the time is to new places trying to find that perfect combination. AMP's just like restaurants, barber shops, Doctors offices and 95% of all other businesses only succeed on return visits, you can't make a successful business on new customers.[/QUOTE]I think this is spot on, if a provider does a really good job with just a massage and is not an asshole she deserves a tip as most if not all of the house goes to the house. Sometimes we spook them so they are not as forthcoming as we might like. If the massage was good and the atmosphere ok then perhaps on a return things will get better. If not move on. Most of the places reviewed here are pretty consistent and I found when I was in the area that connection with the provider made all the difference in the world. I was fortunate to have that happen a number of times at Zen and I am confident my sessions were not what most visitors got.

[QUOTE=ChasMale;3380987]The two links that I got to work are a wandering Asian massage / FS that works out of a motel. They come and go just be careful, normally $130 for a HH and $160 for an hour.[/QUOTE]Might not bother with the links you got to work. Motel work doesn't really tickle my fancy. I'll try the other again here:

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/good-monday-afternoon-cameron-new-mariah-and-kadence-today-open-9-30am-4pm/16369343[/URL]

Been back to Zen a couple times since my last report. Sunny was available both times, and got the usual quality massage and attentiveness. As always an excellent go-to adn the massages themselves are easily as good as anything I've gotten at "legit" providers.

Was wondering if anyone had a recommendation at Vitality. I used to swing by when Sophie was working days as she could be very, very attentive, but she now works evenings which isn't a good fit for my schedule.

[QUOTE=TidesGuy;3381515]Been back to Zen a couple times since my last report. Sunny was available both times, and got the usual quality massage and attentiveness. As always an excellent go-to adn the massages themselves are easily as good as anything I've gotten at "legit" providers.

Was wondering if anyone had a recommendation at Vitality. I used to swing by when Sophie was working days as she could be very, very attentive, but she now works evenings which isn't a good fit for my schedule.[/QUOTE]Ashley works days at Vitality. She is a super skinny white girl with tats. Very small A cups that still lactate if you're into that.

I've seen her once and would be willing to try again if I hadn't discovered PHC. In my honest opinion, Vitality isn't always a sure place, yet for the same $, you can have the lovely Selina at PHC, which is a sure thing.

Granted, if time is the restraining factor, Vitality is conveniently located. Just don't expect a real massage at vitality and take your time, don't let anyone rush you & a good time can be had.

For $200 do you think it is FS? Naked? Anything special?

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/cmt-lady-a-coming-soon/17460748[/URL]

[QUOTE=LowPirate;3384048]Ashley works days at Vitality. She is a super skinny white girl with tats. Very small A cups that still lactate if you're into that.

I've seen her once and would be willing to try again if I hadn't discovered PHC. In my honest opinion, Vitality isn't always a sure place, yet for the same $, you can have the lovely Selina at PHC, which is a sure thing.

Granted, if time is the restraining factor, Vitality is conveniently located. Just don't expect a real massage at vitality and take your time, don't let anyone rush you & a good time can be had.[/QUOTE]Not sure what PHC is, but I'd like to try it out. Thanks.

[QUOTE=LuvaRub2;3384567]Not sure what PHC is, but I'd like to try it out. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Purple heart connection. It's Veronica and her girls. I haven't gone through her in a while but you can search her or Selina's name in this and the backpage thread. There's plenty of info.

[QUOTE=ThatGuyUkno99;3384648]Purple heart connection. It's Veronica and her girls. I haven't gone through her in a while but you can search her or Selina's name in this and the backpage thread. There's plenty of info.[/QUOTE]I'm interested in learning more about Purple Heart Connection. I've seen past reviews but nothing recently. Can someone post or PM me with information about this service?

Many thanks.

Dr D.

Went to Rivers Spa and saw Julie. She is cute and very friendly. She gives a great massage and the best HJ I have had in years. Her moves were amazing. Could only touch OTC but I still had a great time.

Has anyone tried Body Kneads or Ms V out?? Wanting to know detail of their sessions. Please pm information. Thanks.

She looks great and has massage training, the ad says.

Any information would be very welcome.

Post or PM.

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/Thera...ourse/17258913[/URL]

Juicy Juliana Upscale Masseuse.

Strict Massages Only.

My touch is lovely and pleasing.

I'm VERY PROFESSIONAL AND KIND HEARTED. NO BS. No law enforcement. My time is not cheap, I'm classy and elegant. I'm a licensed masseuse and work hard to ease your pain. Call or text. (803) 947-.

[QUOTE=ChasMale;3388479]Went to Rivers Spa and saw Julie. She is cute and very friendly. She gives a great massage and the best HJ I have had in years. Her moves were amazing. Could only touch OTC but I still had a great time.[/QUOTE]This sounds good. Can you or someone tell me a little more about the Rivers Spa facility and sessions. Are table showers on offer? For extra or as part of door fee?

I gather this is a Korean owned place? Is it clean, new, old? And do the providers rotate in and out, or do they tend to stay there?

Thanks.

I am new to this, I have been to Zen 3 times. Sunny was my favorite, then May, then Candy. Candy is totally the cutest, May is nice looking too, and Sunny had the best personality. I have seen a couple of posts about prostate massages and I really want to try one. Is it okay to ask for that or should I just wait until it is offered? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I also want to try Crystal Spa. Any reason no it to?

[QUOTE=LowPirate;3334601]I have not had a massage by May yet at Zen.

But It's going to be hard to top since she was working real hard to not only massage the prostate but knew how to drain the seminal gland.

I will have to see May now so I can find our who is better.[/QUOTE]Are prostate massages frequently offered? Is it okay to ask for one? I have seen May at Zen and really want to try one. Any would in this matter I. E. Asking for one, how it goes, etc is greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=DoctorD;3390446]This sounds good. Can you or someone tell me a little more about the Rivers Spa facility and sessions. Are table showers on offer? For extra or as part of door fee?

I gather this is a Korean owned place? Is it clean, new, old? And do the providers rotate in and out, or do they tend to stay there?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Rivers Spa is clean but I have never seen a table shower there. It is located in a little strip mall up past Northwoods mall. There is only 1 provider at this time- currently Julie. Door fee is $70.

Been away for awhile, working actually out of state, and back. I've been keeping up with post and got a feel of where I should pick up where I've left off which was Zen an Crystal. Seen some post about Rivers Spa and Han Spa which I may check out since they seem it be offering more now. Question to you all though, have things been fairly quietly with these AMPs? Mind I've bend away from the area about a year now.

Thanks!!

YnW.

[QUOTE=ThatGuyUkno99;3384648]Purple heart connection. It's Veronica and her girls. I haven't gone through her in a while but you can search her or Selina's name in this and the backpage thread. There's plenty of info.[/QUOTE]If anyone wants contact info for Veronica at PHC, PM me.

Selina is only available until 3 pm. Attached pictures are Selina.

[QUOTE=NewToIt;3390665]I am new to this, I have been to Zen 3 times. Sunny was my favorite, then May, then Candy. Candy is totally the cutest, May is nice looking too, and Sunny had the best personality. I have seen a couple of posts about prostate massages and I really want to try one. Is it okay to ask for that or should I just wait until it is offered? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I also want to try Crystal Spa. Any reason no it to?[/QUOTE]When I first tried it. I simply asked and was given. They won't be surprised. LOL.

I have been gone for a while. Let's Just say I was in a hobbyists heaven.

Anyone seen her lately? It's been 3 months for me. But I will be back in Summerville and figured on seeing her. Nothing like a MILF rubbing your back and then bending over and letting you take a nice deep trip to the Greek Islands.

The video makes me stiff just watching it.

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-arrived-asian-first-time-here-top-choices-718-690-8112/17972153[/URL]

Whats the best AMP around chuck town for a good BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Hs843;3399570]Whats the best AMP around chuck town for a good BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Unless you brought someone with you that can service you it ain't going to happen here in Charleston.

You ever get around to checking it out?

[QUOTE=ChasMale;3399134]The video makes me stiff just watching it.

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-arrived-asian-first-time-here-top-choices-718-690-8112/17972153[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LittleBird09;3400226]You ever get around to checking it out?[/QUOTE]I tried texting asking for the rate for a massage and location a few times but never got a response. I'll keep trying and let you know. I just feel for that banana. Smile.

I enjoyed a very nice session with Candy at Zen yesterday. Zen seems like a sure bet for those looking for a good AMP experience. The place is clean and well-run. All the providers I've seen there are nice looking and very polite.

They have a great table shower set up. And I've always gotten a really good massage with a very happy ending. 80 at the door, and I usually tip 60. Candy is very good at her job and a nice looking, pleasant person to be with.

[QUOTE=ChasMale;3390818]Rivers Spa is clean but I have never seen a table shower there. It is located in a little strip mall up past Northwoods mall. There is only 1 provider at this time- currently Julie. Door fee is $70.[/QUOTE]You're right about that. She's cuter than the ones that used to work in there but I can't deal with a 30 min wait and have to deal with her walking in and out to attend to the door.

Don't think previous post was uploaded, however had the opportunity to see Candy this week, she's a sweet beautiful young lady, provided good table shower, walked on my back for massage and placed body close to me for awesome ending.

Also had the opportunity to go to Rivers Spa late last week, sorry don't remember provider name, did 30 minutes and she was great, no table shower, Excellent ending.

Both of spas are great.

With me being An AA it's hard to get any independent service. I guess one guy messed it up for all of us.

It's the holiday weekend so I decided to head in to crystal before work. Got the pleasure of seeing Sunni. See makes sure I get a thorough TS LOL. An hour massage and HE. I forgot to ask the mamasan her name. She has long reddish hair with braces and a nice rack, anyone know?

[QUOTE=CoolGuy2526;3403454]With me being An AA it's hard to get any independent service. I guess one guy messed it up for all of us.[/QUOTE]I agree. I'm in the same boat.

[QUOTE=CoolGuy2526;3403454]With me being An AA it's hard to get any independent service. I guess one guy messed it up for all of us.[/QUOTE]I'm in the same boat too fellas.

Stop by Rivers Spa yesterday seen Cici. Massage was a 6/10 flip was standard and the HE was good. I probably repeat stay safe fellas. Coolguy.

[QUOTE=Tre876;3404124]I'm in the same boat too fellas.[/QUOTE]These ads do not exclude AA.

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/n-u-r-u-b-2-b-sexy-asian-model-upscale-service/17302323[/URL]

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/asian-hawaiian/17205403[/URL]

[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/s-e_n_s_u_a_l-best-asian-japanese-beauty-718-690-8112/17330948[/URL]

This isn't meant to offend anybody for it's just my opinion which isn't going to change anything anyway. I think we are getting cheated Charleston the surrounding area AMP'S offer far more for the same or a little more money then the ones here. I know its quite a drive from here but my job sent me to greenville today after I was done work I decided to check the area to see if there was anything worth wild. I saw some reviews on a place called natural health and decided to give it a try. My provider was a pretty woman maybe not Zen quality but attractive enough spinner type body maybe mid 30's. House fee 60 got a ts not as good as Zen but pleasing. Normal routine back to room lay face down started massage went with medium and she did a decent job. When she got to my arms she placed my hand up her skirt on her inner thigh giving me the go ahead to roam so I did. On the flip she asks how can I help you I say what's on the menu and she says straight out I want to fuck you I say how much she says 100. Gave her the tip she says I will be right back. Comes back tells me to help her undress I help then lay back down she climbs up and starts with what feels like a BBBJ her butt is up by my chest I was feeling it the whole time plus some kitty play so I decided to see if she would 69 and she did no problems after a few minutes of that she hops on and rides me cg after about 5 minutes she tells me to hit it k9 and she likes it hard so we switched after doing that for awhile her legs start trembling so we moved to mish did that for awhile then back to cg after being in cg for the 2nd time she is getting really into it and ends up squirting all over me she apologizes and gets embarrassed I tell her it was fine and actually a turn on because I've never done that before being so sorry she takes the cover off and finishes me with a BBBJ cim and swallow. This is the best AMP experience I ever had. The guys in surrounding areas are getting this everyday. All this for 160 I drop 120 at Zen for basic massage and HE. I think we should stop giving these places all this money (a boycott if you will) until they get with the program but again just my opinion but we are getting cheated.

Ok I'm in pain and I need the best girl that does walk on the back. I need someone to go down each vertebrae and adjust me. You can pm me.

Got some more adventures to share soon. Charleston, Greenville, & Birmingham.

[QUOTE=Tazdevil77;3405633]This isn't meant to offend anybody for it's just my opinion which isn't going to change anything anyway. I think we are getting cheated Charleston the surrounding area AMP'S offer far more for the same or a little more money then the ones here. I know its quite a drive from here but my job sent me to greenville today after I was done work I decided to check the area to see if there was anything worth wild. I saw some reviews on a place called natural health and decided to give it a try. My provider was a pretty woman maybe not Zen quality but attractive enough spinner type body maybe mid 30's. House fee 60 got a ts not as good as Zen but pleasing. Normal routine back to room lay face down started massage went with medium and she did a decent job. When she got to my arms she placed my hand up her skirt on her inner thigh giving me the go ahead to roam so I did. On the flip she asks how can I help you I say what's on the menu and she says straight out I want to fuck you I say how much she says 100. Gave her the tip she says I will be right back. Comes back tells me to help her undress I help then lay back down she climbs up and starts with what feels like a BBBJ her butt is up by my chest I was feeling it the whole time plus some kitty play so I decided to see if she would 69 and she did no problems after a few minutes of that she hops on and rides me cg after about 5 minutes she tells me to hit it k9 and she likes it hard so we switched after doing that for awhile her legs start trembling so we moved to mish did that for awhile then back to cg after being in cg for the 2nd time she is getting really into it and ends up squirting all over me she apologizes and gets embarrassed I tell her it was fine and actually a turn on because I've never done that before being so sorry she takes the cover off and finishes me with a BBBJ cim and swallow. This is the best AMP experience I ever had. The guys in surrounding areas are getting this everyday. All this for 160 I drop 120 at Zen for basic massage and HE. I think we should stop giving these places all this money (a boycott if you will) until they get with the program but again just my opinion but we are getting cheated.[/QUOTE]Other shops in other towns do offer more. And I did find it strange that kamp did not offer FS here in this town. My conclusion is that this must be an agreement with local law enforcement or military base. HJ we will leave you alone but anything more they will be in trouble. The FS they leave to hotel and outcall girls. If you have a place that does FS and a military guy goes there and a girl has or catches a vd and spreads it to the guys at the base then that's a bad thing. Consider yourself lucky because in Tennessee they have closed every FS kamp except one in the whole state and in middle Tennessee you can't even get a HJ. They are systematically trying to close ever AMP in the state. So be glad to have what you have.