Let me make sure I understand this
So, a slightly frumpy over priced over the hill hooker won't fuck me because my dick is too short?
Damn.
I guess I am just stuck with one of the half dozen or so amazing drop dead gorgeous young spinner legends that hang around our literary club.
Wow! God bless the free enterprise system.
C3.
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2355022]Preferably the only information I need which is the gentleman's (handle) and number or email he used when contacting me. You will have to find out penis size on your own as I stated in my pm reply before.
Savanna.[/QUOTE]
Have I missed something or is this ass backwards?
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Ashley23 - only consider for QVs!
Hey guys, you remember that movie from 1998 with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker? Two cops team up to get back a kidnapped daughter.
'Cause that's exactly what happened LOL.
Last four of phone number is 5967.
Last ad posted on 01-31-15 17:42.
Saw her recently. Anyways I text to ask about rates early in the day. Rates were 80 qv 120 h 200 h, I'm like nevermind don't worry about it.
She suggests 25 off, and then take it from there.
She doesn't have decent reviews, so I'm skeptical.
She texts me back an hour or so later and agrees to my price.
I text her back a few more hours later to accept.
I meet her at her place. Crappy hotel by UCF. Short drive for me, not too bad.
The good: From far away she looks rather young. Like, illegal young. She is a spinner, so there's that. Pierced nips, if you're into that.
She does a LE check (which, I'll never understand be / see they can still book you regardless).
Immediately after that, she says 200. I'm like really? We agreed on the 160 for the hour. If you don't like it, I'll give you a 20 for your time, and move out.
She's like no no, it's fine. Can my girlfriend stay outside while we're in the room?
I'm all sorts of sketched out. She's like nevermind, after I tell her that I'm worried about getting robbed. (in hindsight, I think she wanted to upsell me on a duo, she did ask if I wanted a duo for next time when I was leaving).
She happily accepts donations immediately.
Finally a slightly toothy BBBJ. I'm still kinda sketched out about the situation, and during almost the ENTIRE session, there's someone like scratching at / walking near the door. It was really weird.
I ask her who the heck is that? She tells me that it's her girlfriend, bad back etc (protip: she's a terrible liar) - can't even keep the two lies straight!
I finish the first round and I'm absolutely certain I have another 45. I ask how much time I have left, because that's always a good sign of how fast things will go downhill. She tells me I have 15 minutes left. (PSSSSH OKAY) I give it another go, but she keeps on rushing me + the whole person outside the door.
At this point in time, I'm more concerned about safety than anything. I give up because this is a lost cause in my book.
I notice at this point in time she really just doesn't give a crap. I lower my standards even more and tell her look, if you just give me a review I'll leave right now.
Ashley tells me that she'll do it immediately once I leave. Uh huh. Right.
As I leave, I notice a girl sitting outside on the stairs, and she appears to be mean mugging me while I walk out the door. Ashley leaves the hotel room as I step outside and starts talking with the girl by the stairs.
They get a good look at my car before I leave. The good news is, I'm single and don't really have any wives to worry about, so whatever.
I follow up about the review because I'm nice like that. Second chance this morning. I'm like look, you can rip me off on time, least you can do is leave a review. She says "that's rude, reviews take 24 hrs, etc" Still no review. Whatever.
If anyone is wondering why I give so much of a shit about the reviews, it A) keeps me current and B) sometimes you see random SMs and wonder who the eff those guys are from, you know? They seem like shills.
Anyways. Ash, if you're reading this. Thanks for absolutely setting the new standard for terrible service. I am willing to overlook time and lack of service (s), but sheesh. I know we're probably around the same age but your "pretty girl entitlement" card has only a few more years before it runs out. Especially with the cigs you smoke (that'll age you pretty quickly). I do apologize for not being able to keep it up with someone outside the room's door. I guess I'm not into being the main star of a snuff film, you know?
SMs, if you're reading this. QVs would probably be all that's good, nothing more; only if you hate driving downtown like me.
Other items to note: "oh, I only have one condom" (read: I don't feel like going two rounds or working, period.); she also only buys the stupidly expensive brand of condoms. Girl, you're wasting your money.
Total damage was 160 for the rushed half hour. While it's not great that I got ripped off, it could've been worse.
I highly doubt she'll reply back or even advertise again be / see she actually has to be accountable for her actions (unlike BP, where most people don't really do the research before heading out).
SMs if you have questions, I'll answer any for Ashley23.
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Are you honestly posting that you were basically BEGGING a provider to give YOU, THE MONGER, a good review on here?
You basically have a shitty ass dream, spent your mario coin and was ripped off and you begged her to give YOU a good review?
If this is not completely backwards, I don't know what is.
This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site.
This site is for mongers to report on providers, not for providers to report on mongers. They have there own sites for that.
Begging a provider to post a positive review about you, a monger, especially after a shitty dream with her is completely asinine. You may seriously want to rethink your participation in this hobby and what this board is meant for.
The law of supply and demand cannot be repealed
If you read between the lines of Love Lee's retort of RainbowDash's rant, you find that she offers specials when times are lean and not when she is busy. That is the way the free enterprise system works. It is a benefit to the hobby to have new talent find us, advertise, get better and raise rates. That will draw in more new talent. Plus, it keeps the old talent sharp. Also, if there is more supply then the price of service stays moderate, which attracts more guys so the SP's get more business and we get better prices. If there is a lack of good talent then we all overpay for under performance. That is the very embodiment of the law of supply and demand.
Also, a bigger market means more competition and more work for those needing work. Add a reliable review system and you have a perfect market where we, the consumer, help the provider improve their service (or get out). The worst thing we can do is write these bull shit reviews as White Knights. That does not help anyone. Ladies with poor service are encouraged to not improve and we, the consumer, become sour on the market and get out of this literary club. We take our business somewhere else. So, what is left is the White Knights and the bad SP's. Eventually, the whole club deteriorates. I personally am against that and really try to give honest reviews and feedback, encourage new talent to come to our neighborhood and encourage up and coming talent to improve service.
I am not opposed to being a White Knight and if you check my posts you will find where I have done it, but I also state out front what I am doing. If a SP I know needs business and I can help, I will. I refuse to write bull shit embellished reviews. Instead, I simply state, here is a SP that needs some business and she is worth it. Some of you White Knights should try that as it makes the whole club a better place to play. Cut the crap.
End of my rant.
C3.
[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2358004]I probably should throw the disclaimer out right now. While not ALL escorts I have listed in my "rant" post are extraordinarily expensive, I was merely pointing out that the rates on Date-Check were a smidge on the higher side.
As much as I would love to take you on your offer regarding reasonable rates, I unfortunately can't because of your "Under 40" rule. I do appreciate you taking the time to put an alternative perspective on things, however! Those are needed sometimes.
I have sent you correspondence to further explain myself, with the appropriate DC info for your perusal.[/QUOTE]
Cause and effect. Ashley23
[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2359146]Look, you have a right to everything you're saying there (because you're on point with most of it) The only reason why I mention the review? When I first started the hobby here on USG a few years ago, I had a concern from a provider who was new to the boards and literally told me that my reviews were outdated and she was skeptical about them. While I did manage to meet up with her eventually that day, it was really time consuming and I knew she had gone through the reviews because I received a text from one of the providers that gave me an okay wondering about someone calling about me.
Because of this event, I paid for a Date Check account and went through their somewhat invasive job verification in order to be a member.
Ever since that day, I've always asked for a vouch either through USG or Date Check.
RE: C3's "The Law of Supply and Demand" message.
In theory, rates should be at around 160/ hr for providers right now, but that's not completely the case. It's kind of strange.
The white knighting issue, putting a disclaimer would be a good idea from a monger perspective, which I will be considering. If I write a review any time soon, that is (based on how admin moved the posts, probably not. I think I'm on that probation crap since I'm on this board =(.
If this crap was legalized, we would have great service at decent pricing but religious values are getting in the way of real sexual progress in this country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2359146]Look, you have a right to everything you're saying there (because you're on point with most of it) The only reason why I mention the review? When I first started the hobby here on USG a few years ago, I had a concern from a provider who was new to the boards and literally told me that my reviews were outdated and she was skeptical about them. While I did manage to meet up with her eventually that day, it was really time consuming and I knew she had gone through the reviews because I received a text from one of the providers that gave me an okay wondering about someone calling about me.
Because of this event, I paid for a Date Check account and went through their somewhat invasive job verification in order to be a member.
Ever since that day, I've always asked for a vouch either through USG or Date Check.
RE: C3's "The Law of Supply and Demand" message.
In theory, rates should be at around 160/ hr for providers right now, but that's not completely the case. It's kind of strange.
The white knighting issue, putting a disclaimer would be a good idea from a monger perspective, which I will be considering. If I write a review any time soon, that is (based on how admin moved the posts, probably not. I think I'm on that probation crap since I'm on this board =(.
If this crap was legalized, we would have great service at decent pricing but religious values are getting in the way of real sexual progress in this country.[/QUOTE]I debated coming into the "trap" but being a catalyst for the recent white knight discussion I thought I would throw out the question: what is a white knight? I provided a very positive and what I believe a well written articulate review of Ashley23. Had a return dream last night, also positive, and now concerned if I post a second review, I will be labeled a white knight because of other contemporaneous negative reviews. I don't believe that our community should "chill" the desire to publish short fictional stories. But I don't want to stir a Dallas redo and have some post count ***** eunuchs with zero to contribute on the bread and butter threads chime in and attack me. The fact is our canvases can sometimes be rather young, immature, and your mileage may vary on a day to day basis. Sometimes it's not them, it's the author; his appearance, attitude, expectation level, and his lens he sees thru on whether this hobby is a right or privilege. A SM previously provided good tips on how to treat the lady which I have followed to a tee; particularly asking them what they like also. Quite simple, treat them like you would a girl you have been dating and now how the opportunity to jump into the sack for the first time and you will increase your chances of being rewarded in return. And so, if I post a second positive review, particularly after the prior discussion, am I a white knight?
In rainbowdash3's defense, I always ask the lady if I can post a review (if it was a relaxing dream) and yes request she responds so I can establish some credibility which increases my hobbying opportunities. But I would never barter over a review in return and skew it for an acknowledgment as that constitutes treason to our fellow comrades in the foxhole IMHO. Impacts your credibility rainbowdash3. And on that subject, you indicated when you left the room, you noticed a girl sitting on the stairs giving you the evil eye. WTF, the cheap ass hotel has an internal hallway. There are no stairs visibility present except the standard emergency escape type behind a steel firewall door. So I don't know how you got eyeballed when leaving or how you could observe Ashley23 talking to this girl unless your loitering in an internal stairwell which is pretty awkward and not in your account, or how you know they saw your car as it would require them to leave the building entirely and step out into the parking lot. However, when I left the room, there was a white guy mid twenties or younger leaning against opposite hallway wall no more than 3 feet from me that gave new meaning to the term " mean mugging me". Scared the shit out of me. I likely will not return unless I get a satisfactory explanation.
On C3's take on capitalism, worked for me. First time painting on the canvas, the cost of supplies was 120 for the smaller canvas which I note was the box store's advertised price with the full canvas advertised at 160. For my second dream, the full canvas price was on sale. So thank you rainbowdash3. In both my painting of a story, there was no hidden fee, taxes. Love supply and demand of the free market.
So, I ask again, what is a white knight?
A dismounted white knight
[QUOTE=Otwist;2359544]There is nothing wrong with writing a positive review or two about a provider that has some average, or not so good reviews. It becomes white knighting when you write 10 or 12 reviews on her in a year. It becomes white knighting when you argue with other member's negative posts on the same provider. Most of the mongers on here will accept a couple of positive reviews on a shaky provider, because we know YMMV.[/QUOTE]Otwist, appreciate you providing some clarity and definition. And yours Jazak. Some members PM me and I will respect their privacy. The theme to me is pretty clear, post your fiction with truth, avoid challenging others if their opinion differs, and don't make excuses for a provider. Don't think I did that with Ashley23, I tried to generalize it to young SP as a whole. I did call out the prior negative reviewer, but I think it was only on an objective matter as to the layout of the hotel. Not as to what happened behind door#1. My apology if that was not the case as that would clearly constitute a white night. Still perplexed on one question, that is not to provide multiple reviews (overkill). Philosophically, that is really at the heart of what motivated me in the first place to ask the question. I have a personal interest in providing a positive review (assumption is it is truthful), if for no other reason than I want the SP to well healed and busy so she stays around, so I can continue to enjoy my dreams. Purely, self interest on my part. I think there is a bit of white knight, promoter in many of us. I read posts like " you got to see her" or " treat her well so she stays around a long time" etc. Clearly, the author does such, in some small part, because he wants the lady around next week or next month because she treated him well. I will continue to write my dreams as I see them and I think I'm figuring out where the line is. If not, I am confident I will get some unsolicited self help from our club of distinguished literary authors by being called out (actually my persona) and not me personally. Thanks all. FH69.
Need to know what you guys think
[BLUE]This guy has been a member here for a number of years. While I don't take positions regarding info on the forum (unless you were there you can't really say you know what happened) something about this smacks of truth to me. If it is, then I sure as fuck don't want her advertising for free here. I'm interested in hearing if any other established Seniors have had any similar experiences with this chick.
Sorry new guys, I'm not discouraging you from posting but if this is true I anticipate a flurry of recently registered users, who suspiciously seem to write the same, to register and talk about how awesome this chick is or why what happened was this guys fault.
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[QUOTE=Bg200;2359922]For all you guys who went to see her and those thinking about going to see her, I'll issue this strong warning to you. I went to see her. She is in a gated community for a reason. A whole group of providers and their pimps are staying in a house that is listed on Vacation Rentals by Owner. They rented a house in Davenport and then in Haines City, both are in Polk County. I had a really great session with her. One of the best I have ever had. She acts crazy at times often talking to herself and throwing things. I agreed to $1.80 for an hour. She left the room a number of times, leaving me lie there for up to 15 minutes. I was told to just lie there until she comes back. She would wander through the house making contact with her other friends. She would return and while she was there her performance was excellent. As we neared the end of my time, she all of sudden says your time is up, I'm done with you. I had to beg her to take 2 more minutes to finish me up. Now she wants more money. She wants to be paid for the time she spent in the kitchen eating and talking with the other people in the house. I offer her a bonus of $. 5 for how well she performed. She goes nuts and into a tirade telling me I have to pay her a whole lot more. I offer her $3.50 and she runs out the bedroom door calling for someone in the house. I'm putting on my clothes and in comes 4 more people. Two are providers and two are pimps. One is a black dude about 5' 10" and 275 lbs built like a brick shithouse. The other pimp is just a scrawny runt who is lucky I didn't throw him through the window which is right behind me. I finish putting my clothes on and the black pimp blocks my way out of the room. He says you aren't going anywhere. There are 5 people standing in my way of exiting the room. He tells me to pay the girl what she wants. I told him I already paid her $3. 50 and our agreed upon session was for $1.80. He tells me you are not leaving this room until you give her what she wants. I tell the guy I won't hesitate to bring the police in here. He tells me, you think we care about the police? We don't own this house. I tell him you won't get another dollar out of me. Shy says I want more money out of you right now. I refused. She says I got to have more money. Give me $. 20 at least I have something. I told them I'll give them $. 20 but they have to back out of the room and open the front door of the house before I will pay them. They slowly and very cautiously backed out of the room and blocked my way to the front door. They said give me the money. I told them to open the front door. They didn't and we went around this discussion a few more times before they decided to open the door. I gave them the $.20 as I went out the door. I knew at this point if they tried anything, the neighbors would come running out. To the guy who went to see Shy a couiple weeks back, it's a good thing you told her you didn't have any more money, because she probably would have taken it away from you if she saw it. This is the first time in over 4 years anyone has ever accosted me. I'm a very easy going guy. The cost of my 1 hour encounter was $3.70 for an agreed upon session of $1.80. Had the police been called, I would have charged them with holding me against my will. It certainly would have been difficult to prove. Since this encounter, I have gone out and bought personal protection. The next time someone tries to accost me I will be ready for them. The reason they are in a gated community is that it protects them from you trying to retaliate. You can't get near the house without showing an identification at the guard shack. I won't say how, but I got my revenge.
To all of you considering making a trip out to Haines City or Davenport to see any of these providers, I've done the best I can to warn you of the dangers you might encounter.
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/irresistible-im-here-brunette-sweetheart-3five258six578one/11922751[/URL]
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ayour-secret-is-safe-with-me-904518-0965/12076030[/URL]
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The pictures in Shy's ad are not her. None of them are. They are close but definitely not her. One of the pics is Jan Selter, a fitness model from New York.
Be extra careful when responding to an ad where the person you encounter is not the one pictured in the ad. If you have trouble, you can't refer to that picture as being the person you encountered.
If you write a review, all the person has to do is change her phone number and use a new picture to invalidate your review. The thieves and the bad providers know this trick and use it.[/QUOTE]
2 sides. Jumped the gun??
[QUOTE=PharmaGuy;2360153]This does not sound like a fabricated story and she has posted under the classifieds but has not rebutted this. Farewell and good luck to you Shy and your pussy. Sorry I meant posse.[/QUOTE]NOT 100% convinced yet. We are yet to hear from Shy. And after reviewing BG200 past posts it looks like this happens a bit too often to him. That to me is also a huge red flag. He has more negative incidents in the past 30 posts than I have had in the past 300. Something may not be right here. I might be a bit premature in my perspective.
Hobbies are suppose to be fun
[QUOTE=PharmaGuy;2360548]NOT 100% convinced yet. We are yet to hear from Shy. And after reviewing BG200 past posts it looks like this happens a bit too often to him. That to me is also a huge red flag. He has more negative incidents in the past 30 posts than I have had in the past 300. Something may not be right here. I might be a bit premature in my perspective.[/QUOTE]Breakdown for BG200 looks like this. He has reported being robbed and / or strong armed four as in 4 times since November 14. BG your allegations are way too serious to ignore. I am not doubting you yet, haven't seen any comment from the provider or any champion of hers. But can you explain what your technique is in picking, your screening process, anything out of the norm or unusual in your interaction with the provider etc. , so I can avoid. Obviously you have the worst case of bad luck in a short stretch of time in history of this forum. Seriously, I think it is time you retired for your own safety. Regardless where this ends up, be safe and stay safe. FH69.
My take on Shy. For what it's worth.
In her new BP ad, she has now changed her name and it seems she has moved to a different location possibly. It could be due to no calls coming her way since BG reported the trouble. But then again, providers on BP change their names quite often. Since she has advertised on our board, she should be able to address the situation going on here unless there is some truth to the story. Just my. 02 cents is all.
DW.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2360135][BLUE]This guy has been a member here for a number of years. While I don't take positions regarding info on the forum (unless you were there you can't really say you know what happened) something about this smacks of truth to me. If it is, then I sure as fuck don't want her advertising for free here. I'm interested in hearing if any other established Seniors have had any similar experiences with this chick.
Sorry new guys, I'm not discouraging you from posting but if this is true I anticipate a flurry of recently registered users, who suspiciously seem to write the same, to register and talk about how awesome this chick is or why what happened was this guys fault.
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