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I mighta over did it today. You know how sometimes after the deed is done, you're like, omg, I am so wasted. But then the next day you're already making another date. That's how I feel right now. Like I could last till Sunday. But we"ll see what happens tomorrow. I did my ATF this afternoon and then saw my new freshman later this evening. I'll post a pic of her soon (all 6 feet of her), even if I stop seeing her. It was only date three, and I could say she is already in over her head. That's the downside to sugaring. I faded on my last freshman. But she did have a bit of experience so I knew it wouldn't be a big deal. She txted a couple of times and then just stopped.

No Big Deal. WTF ya geezer!

[QUOTE=DocOck;3064264]Ten years ago, EDM might have meant rave and therefore MDMA / molly / ecstasy. These days it really just means electronic dance music and doesn't necessarily have drug implications. Plenty of people just get drunk the old fashioned way and dance the night away to EDM (any club you go to these days is going to play EDM or hip hop). I know tons of people who love EDM and don't do any drugs, besides pot and booze.

That being said, if you're interested in a girl and she lists EDM as a musical favorite, I don't think it hurts to ask if they've done molly at some point in the conversation.[/QUOTE]

The girls that favorite you on SA are rarely the ones you are going to meet or even want to meet. It's usually better to be proactive than reactive.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3071508]The girls that favorite you on SA are rarely the ones you are going to meet or even want to meet. It's usually better to be proactive than reactive.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree. I find it useful to favorite girls I message, b / c then I can tell if they are on / have been on the site, and that helps me decide whether to give up on them or persist.

Never bother searching by "Minimal" expectations. Minimal is defined as up to 1 k a month in allowance (sounds good on the face of it). But is usually defined by the girl as only 2 or 3 meetups a month (not so minimal per date).

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3007916]Today I spent my first deep, planned session in the FC with my new SB, ModelMILF. Truly, it was beyond my wildest dreams when I joined SA a short time ago. My expectations may not be as high as some of you, as I have a *truly* problematic SO. This was the best sex I've had in 20 years, which is more an indictment of those decades than anything. ModelMILF is slender but with skillfully enhanced 38 Ds, flawless skin, face absolutely a 10. Alt enough (few tattoos) to be outside my usual. Slow start moved to making out and once she was naked, she signaled for action on her kitty, which BTW is one of the cutest in my experience, with a tiny landing strip. Using several techniques, she had seemingly perpetual Os for 30-40 minutes. She downplayed it saying she is more responsive if she knows you better. I really could have spent hours there, but the clock struck and I simply did her mish, but she got very involved with switching the angles and action for her pleasure. Several more Os for her.
[/QUOTE]Another afternoon with this incredible baby. I spent a huge amount of time with my face between her legs and she has now revealed herself to be a squirter, as she promised earlier. I know there are varied opinions on this issue. I am 100% sure here it is a combo of strong orgasmic contractions and copious natural lubrication. It is hard to imagine where she has taken me compared to where I was a few weeks ago. I can see why others talk of the addiction to sugaring. I can't see not having access to her.

Have been seeing this woman I met on SA since the beginning of the year. No $, she just wants sex. The problem is that I can tell she would love it if it developed into more. Never going to happen. She starts to act like a PITA GF at times, commenting, "Why were you on SA?

So I created a new handle on SA which I haven't paid to upgrade yet. Been getting a lot of hits but, without Premium, you aren't able to message. Then I see a grid showing the comparison between standard and Premium and it shows 10 free messages on standard. "Cool!" I thought. I can send messages to the ones I would really like, directing them to email or text me. Problem solved. WRONG! No matter how eloquent you message, the site switches it to "You intrigued me. Interested in an arrangement?" Then you can't read the friggin reply!

Dammit. Vaguely remember this when I first got on SA but forgot about it this time. And don't even bother trying to bury your email in the body of your profile like you can on AF. They spot it and reject it.

I have been on SA for almost a year. If you have game, are a great sexual master and teacher and have a clueof what gifts to give its very easy to avoid handing over your cold hard cash. Granted I've paid for many very nice hotel rooms via hotwire, a few nice vacations, lots of great sexy skimpy clothing that turns me on haha. I have literally handed over $650 in cash, put a single temporaily homeless hot mom up for a week in a hotel and made a $200 car payment for another. I'm 48 , have had the most debauheerous sex of my life this year! I'm in great shape I look 38, very athletic and active. Work in music / fashion industries as photographer. I have been banging smoking hot petite spinners, which I prefer. Aged 18 -30. One of my regulars was an anal loving micro spinner with first name of state that has both a north and a south. Not bragging. But I laugh when I hear some of these girls gettng 10 k plus a month and don't hold a torch to the hot little sluts I've been banging! Right now I have a rotation of 4 little babes. Cheers guys!

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3072036]Never bother searching by "Minimal" expectations. Minimal is defined as up to 1 k a month in allowance (sounds good on the face of it). But is usually defined by the girl as only 2 or 3 meetups a month (not so minimal per date).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrMcNaughty;3072601]I have been on SA for almost a year. If you have game, are a great sexual master and teacher and have a clueof what gifts to give its very easy to avoid handing over your cold hard cash. Granted I've paid for many very nice hotel rooms via hotwire, a few nice vacations, lots of great sexy skimpy clothing that turns me on haha. I have literally handed over $650 in cash, put a single temporaily homeless hot mom up for a week in a hotel and made a $200 car payment for another. I'm 48 , have had the most debauheerous sex of my life this year! I'm in great shape I look 38, very athletic and active. Work in music / fashion industries as photographer. I have been banging smoking hot petite spinners, which I prefer. Aged 18 -30. One of my regulars was an anal loving micro spinner with first name of state that has both a north and a south. Not bragging. But I laugh when I hear some of these girls gettng 10 k plus a month and don't hold a torch to the hot little sluts I've been banging! Right now I have a rotation of 4 little babes. Cheers guys![/QUOTE]We all work with our god given talents and our learned responses. I would never begin to compare my success with my buddy the x rockstar who banged a girl a day (including cover models) while touring this great land. (without ever spending a dime). He stopped counting when he hit girl number 2000. Or my friend who is disabled, grossly overweight and can barely stand yet manages to get some friendly MILF's to lend a helping hand. (with a little sugar to sweeten the deal). Live long and prosper.

Just an FYI. Uber must be subsidizing their drivers right now. I just did a 90 minute uber pool ride for a girl for under 14 dollars. It's a good time to have a girl come over these days and semi-impress them as the last man said. I usually just ask the girl upfront if she is cool with the pool. I have never had one say "no" yet.

I had changed my profile a while back stating that I was looking for very submissive girls. One of the consequences was getting hit up by a lot of curvy, thick and larger girls. Most of these girls give no hint as to that particular part of their personality in their profiles. Just an observation.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3078937]I had changed my profile a while back stating that I was looking for very submissive girls. One of the consequences was getting hit up by a lot of curvy, thick and larger girls. Most of these girls give no hint as to that particular part of their personality in their profiles. Just an observation.[/QUOTE]Doesn't it seem likely they are not getting a lot of dates / sex b / c of their build, so they are more needy, and also for the same reason they aren't that experienced, and therefore think that a guy who is going to direct them / teach them is going to work better? Or perhaps they think if they can't offer a hot body like others, they can offer this behavior?

[QUOTE=DocOck;2933396]Install social media / messaging apps like WhatsApp, Line, Kik, Snapchat, etc. If they give you their main phone number (and most people aren't savvy enough to use a burner app or secondary line), their account should pop up if they use these apps. Should give you more pics and sometimes useful info like their usual username. For example -- girl pops up on Kik after you save her number into your phone. Her Kik username is something like 'bellaxoxo'. You search 'bellaxoxo' on other apps like instagram, facebook, etc. And lo and behold, you find even more information and pics.

Also, reverse searching profile pics with google image search or tineye can yield results as well.

BTW Smokarz, your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]I've seen a couple of profiles recently that used photos of models pulled off the web. I messaged with one before I figured it out, and then she went silent, so don't know what she really is like. She had a private photo that is presumably her and not ridiculously off base, but still. No doubt those sorts of photos get me thinking with my little head, which is their purpose. If a photo looks too fantastic, it probably is and you should tineye it. This is a well-known BP risk, but too bad it's coming to SA.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3079224]Doesn't it seem likely they are not getting a lot of dates / sex b / c of their build, so they are more needy, and also for the same reason they aren't that experienced, and therefore think that a guy who is going to direct them / teach them is going to work better? Or perhaps they think if they can't offer a hot body like others, they can offer this behavior?[/QUOTE]Actually a fair number are older. So they know what they want. Its just an observation. I haven't really analyzed it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3079444]I've seen a couple of profiles recently that used photos of models pulled off the web. I messaged with one before I figured it out, and then she went silent, so don't know what she really is like. She had a private photo that is presumably her and not ridiculously off base, but still. No doubt those sorts of photos get me thinking with my little head, which is their purpose. If a photo looks too fantastic, it probably is and you should tineye it. This is a well-known BP risk, but too bad it's coming to SA.[/QUOTE]If a girl only has model pics, I won't message her.

Due to monetary constraints I am settling down to a life of only seeing my ATF twice a week and having my roommate to keep me company. So there won't be anything to report for the foreseeable future. I will continue to monitor this thread and input when it's appropriate. And good hunting out there.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3079760]Actually a fair number are older. So they know what they want. Its just an observation. I haven't really analyzed it.[/QUOTE]Dating your specific type of girl you wouldn't know that but the bigger girls are more definitely down to be turned into fuck toys. Most are flat out freaks. I'm sure there has been some type of study on it. You will find more bigger girls into the bdsm scene than the spinner types.

Anyone have any experience with this site? It is run by the same people as SA? Thanks.

If you'd like a HUGE laugh, search SA for CaliGeminiGirl in Huntington Beach. It's so over the top I wonder if it's like a woman who was deactivating but didn't want to leave her info on there, so she made stuff up.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3083115]Dating your specific type of girl you wouldn't know that but the bigger girls are more definitely down to be turned into fuck toys. Most are flat out freaks. I'm sure there has been some type of study on it. You will find more bigger girls into the bdsm scene than the spinner types.[/QUOTE]I guess that's why I am sticking with my ATF. And you are right. I've always kinda known that. But since my "type" is basically the opposite I just never paid attention to it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3084028]If you'd like a HUGE laugh, search SA for CaliGeminiGirl in Huntington Beach. It's so over the top I wonder if it's like a woman who was deactivating but didn't want to leave her info on there, so she made stuff up.[/QUOTE]I clicked on her profile and she sent me a message "I work at hooters costa mesa Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday night. Drop by let me know your a finalist for my sugar daddy and we'll talk".

I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69;3084995]I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go for some hot UTR's. They are going to be cuter and lower mileage than a pro. They may have pro experience in their past, but now they want to stay on the down low due to prior bad experiences as a pro. Or they just might need a few quick bucks and then move on. But in the process you will meet a real NP here and there. And all for $ a date depending on your type. I have met some awesome UTR's that were just doing it to get out of a temporary jam. And then they stop. You can usually get a full hour out of them especially the first few times or more. I just had a beginner UTR. Saw her 4 times and spent a $ including the uber each time. In this case I was the one that moved on. But she was a legit freshman at a local college living in off campus group housing. And open to kink. Well worth it.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3085311]Go for some hot UTR's. They are going to be cuter and lower mileage than a pro. They may have pro experience in their past, but now they want to stay on the down low due to prior bad experiences as a pro. Or they just might need a few quick bucks and then move on. But in the process you will meet a real NP here and there. And all for $ a date depending on your type. I have met some awesome UTR's that were just doing it to get out of a temporary jam. And then they stop. You can usually get a full hour out of them especially the first few times or more. I just had a beginner UTR. Saw her 4 times and spent a $ including the uber each time. In this case I was the one that moved on. But she was a legit freshman at a local college living in off campus group housing. And open to kink. Well worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I guess I'm over thinking it myself more than anything. Will give it a shot for sure.

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69;3084995]I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]While I'm sure the high expectation types are enamored with guys who have fancy jobs (means more cash to grab), I think most don't give a crap. As long as you can converse in somewhat coherent manner. As far as you pad goes, who cares? Being married, I never bring them home so it's only a matter of the hotel you get.

Hope that helps.

Read my post from 9/13 ! Earlier this week I had sexy 21 year old Asian spinner from denver drive 7 hrs to come play for 3 days. All holes were in the field of play. I made her some excellent meals, took her to hot springs and stand up paddle boarding. Had some sexy new outfits for her and 5 new toys to play with. The second night I even added a sexy young Russian summer worker to the mix. Girl 1 is bi and wanted to play. Not a cent of cash was exchanged just a lot of body fluids.

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69;3084995]I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

The SBs posting in our area are sometimes clueless. Many talk about wanting to travel with the SD. So how is that going to happen if we are never going to give them our real identity, and vice versa? Perhaps travel in a profile is an indicator of newbies. I have also messaged with several (including my current SB) who list cities like Newport Beach or San Clemente or Laguna Beach, but are actually in San Diego. I think they perceive there are more rich guys in Newport, or they are spreading themselves over both SD and OC by placing themselves in the middle. If the location is important to you, you need to get this squared away with her early. I didn't with my SB and was in deep before I realized what a drive it was going to be.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3089512]The SBs posting in our area are sometimes clueless. Many talk about wanting to travel with the SD. So how is that going to happen if we are never going to give them our real identity, and vice versa? Perhaps travel in a profile is an indicator of newbies. I have also messaged with several (including my current SB) who list cities like Newport Beach or San Clemente or Laguna Beach, but are actually in San Diego. I think they perceive there are more rich guys in Newport, or they are spreading themselves over both SD and OC by placing themselves in the middle. If the location is important to you, you need to get this squared away with her early. I didn't with my SB and was in deep before I realized what a drive it was going to be.[/QUOTE]Some guys who do travel for work can manage it. Read the richmond thread for more info. Also girls give fake locations for many reasons. Local is always best. For me its got to be within a 20 dollar uber distance, preferably 10 or less. My driving days are over due to time constraints.

Started talking and txting to a really cute 18 year old with a bangin body near my house. She straight up says she's kinky and doesn't worry too much about the sugar. But I've heard that before. Sometimes true, sometimes not. Anyway I am going to meet her as soon as possible. Got my usual Friday night date but that is it for the next however many days. So maybe Friday after the date? Or the weekend. I swear if you just hang back on that site, it will come to you.

Got a response from one of the girls on SA. Just my type-tall, smart, long hair, bisexual, and a little naughty. When I asked about her living arrangements, she lives with her parents and is a senior in high school!! I guess it concerns me that she lives with her parents and is in high school. I have had other 18 year olds but they have been in college. Anything I should watch out for??

I do like breaking them in and watching their expressions when they have someone with experience teaching them!

Bearded man.

[QUOTE=BeardedMan67;3094271]Got a response from one of the girls on SA. Just my type-tall, smart, long hair, bisexual, and a little naughty. When I asked about her living arrangements, she lives with her parents and is a senior in high school!! I guess it concerns me that she lives with her parents and is in high school. I have had other 18 year olds but they have been in college. Anything I should watch out for??

I do like breaking them in and watching their expressions when they have someone with experience teaching them!

Bearded man.[/QUOTE]Just get a look at that CA picture ID first.

I see the self described kinky new freshman I was txting with already deleted her profile after just a few days. But when I woke up this morning she had left me a txt from late last nite that she would hmu later today. Also I see the last freshman I did the four dates with is patrolling the site daily. Sometimes you gotta move fast or they are gone. And others may have been born yesterday, but they weren't born last nite.

There are lots of 'college' girls in the OC who go to community college, so they don't have to be Einsteins. M&G w / 21 YO HCP tonight. Smokin' hot when cleaned up in her photos, very pretty in person, full 37's. Has a thought, talkative but not too much. Sitting in my car, receptive to anything and everything I suggested. Also pretty much hyperventilating when I slid my hand up her skirt. After, several texts about how great I am, blah, blah. Can't wait for the FC, though I promised 'I'm not expecting full-on sex the first time we are alone'.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3099194]There are lots of 'college' girls in the OC who go to community college, so they don't have to be Einsteins. M&G w / 21 YO HCP tonight. Smokin' hot when cleaned up in her photos, very pretty in person, full 37's. Has a thought, talkative but not too much. Sitting in my car, receptive to anything and everything I suggested. Also pretty much hyperventilating when I slid my hand up her skirt. After, several texts about how great I am, blah, blah. Can't wait for the FC, though I promised 'I'm not expecting full-on sex the first time we are alone'.[/QUOTE]Never expect, but always be ready. lol.

Hi all.

For some weird reason. I am making great progress with a couple of ladies off sa in the last few days. Never tried this approach because of the time commitment and risk. Find the escort approach easier with better way to protect personal information.

Anyhow, now I have these two ladies responded.

If you have seen either please share.

Would like to meet at least one. She says she is close to Riverside and mv. Can you please share a hotel / motel I can take her with hourly rate in the area?

If you want to pm, please do so. Anyway you can share the info pls.

Thanks for all the help on this thread.

P.

[QUOTE=PnCool01;3106067]Hi all.

For some weird reason. I am making great progress with a couple of ladies off sa in the last few days. Never tried this approach because of the time commitment and risk. Find the escort approach easier with better way to protect personal information.

Anyhow, now I have these two ladies responded.

If you have seen either please share.

Would like to meet at least one. She says she is close to Riverside and mv. Can you please share a hotel / motel I can take her with hourly rate in the area?

If you want to pm, please do so. Anyway you can share the info pls.

Thanks for all the help on this thread.

P.[/QUOTE]I don't know the women, but I just posted the exact same question on the OC Notel thread. There isn't a perfect spot to post for this info. I work out in Riverside periodically and I have several POTs on the line right now that seem almost guaranteed for a FC trip.

Someone suggested finding places by a search on [URL]hotels.com[/URL] and then listing from lowest to highest price. Surprisingly, for midweek I hit the Mission Inn this way. It's one of the nicest places around and could be had for $129. That still may be too much for you. A site some people are using is [URL]hotels9to5.com[/URL], and I believe it has one property near the Ontario airport. That's a 30 min drive from Riverside / Moreno, though.

As my funds have been very tight this year I let all my girls go except my ATF (and cut her allowance in half). Since I have very little to spend I figure I may as well only spend it on NP first timers the few times a month I can afford to. I came pretty close with a couple of gals in the last two months (18 & 20 year old college girls). They were fresh enough, and the 18 year old said I was only the second date she had had off the site. I have seen her four times so far (but the other one ditched me). She was awesome looking (insane body). And I have been pining away for her for about a month (as she has refused to answer my txts). Either she wasn't too high on my allowance, didn't like that I waited forever to get back to her, or after some consideration decided that since I already had an ATF and a roommate her chances of moving up the food chain were a bit dim. I may still pursue her though as NP options are always limited.

But today I had a close to perfect body sophomore (my type of course, 32B-24-34), who has only had sex with one guy in her life (her same age BF that she recently split from). It was our second date (the first was an unpaid four hour touchy feely date). Today she came over in a crop top and draw string pants with no underwear on at all. Before she came over she said she wasn't quite ready for a paid date yet and wanted to get to know me a little better first as she was curious but wanted to feel a connection before committing. But after spending 4 hours with her she decided to spend the last one in the FC. We had just finished up when my roommate unexpectedly came home early from work. She acted hurt for about 15 minutes until she ate the home cooked meal I prepared for her and calmed down.

The sophomore was very gracious to her on the way out and thought she was just acting silly. In follow up txts she assured me she would be back.

Thanks FFA. My concern is about using a cc on websites to book. That can show up on a statement etc.

Same way having to show I'd at check in is a concern. Need to rtf but I was hoping that finding a hourly would be better.

That rate at mission is great but as you say, will set high expectations for future dates. Trying to keep it low cost on hotels.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3106103]I don't know the women, but I just posted the exact same question on the OC Notel thread. There isn't a perfect spot to post for this info. I work out in Riverside periodically and I have several POTs on the line right now that seem almost guaranteed for a FC trip.

Someone suggested finding places by a search on [URL]hotels.com[/URL] and then listing from lowest to highest price. Surprisingly, for midweek I hit the Mission Inn this way. It's one of the nicest places around and could be had for $129. That still may be too much for you. A site some people are using is [URL]hotels9to5.com[/URL], and I believe it has one property near the Ontario airport. That's a 30 min drive from Riverside / Moreno, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PnCool01;3106625]Thanks FFA. My concern is about using a cc on websites to book. That can show up on a statement etc.

Same way having to show I'd at check in is a concern. Need to rtf but I was hoping that finding a hourly would be better.

That rate at mission is great but as you say, will set high expectations for future dates. Trying to keep it low cost on hotels.[/QUOTE]Roger all that. I went to the Highlights archive for the Richmond thread, and there is a lot of good info there, but several years old. I have asked F Scott if he could update. He claims that you can find a low rate at a place online, call them directly and ask for it, use a prepaid card to hold it, and then pay cash when you show up. It does not avoid the photo I'd requirement, but he says he asks then to put his 'business address' (non-existent) on the account so he can expense it. Everything else can be your monger I'd. Email, phone #, etc. That all seems pretty safe, but I agree, a real notel would be better. I have thought about posting a? On Craigslist. One of us should do it.

My first date with my baby in a beach hotel in Dana Point she still looks back on kindly, but she books us now at more economical places that are just fine with both of us. Of course, she's a MILF and mature.

[QUOTE=PnCool01;3106067]Hi all.

For some weird reason. I am making great progress with a couple of ladies off sa in the last few days. Never tried this approach because of the time commitment and risk. Find the escort approach easier with better way to protect personal information.

Anyhow, now I have these two ladies responded.

If you have seen either please share.

Would like to meet at least one. She says she is close to Riverside and mv. Can you please share a hotel / motel I can take her with hourly rate in the area?

If you want to pm, please do so. Anyway you can share the info pls.

Thanks for all the help on this thread.

P.[/QUOTE]I know a spot in San Bernardino that rents by the hour. It's kind of run down and the girl won't be impressed at all but it will get the job done. And it's in a quiet and safe area. Pm me if interested.