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[QUOTE=YoyoSpa;3243877]Please don't repeat. If you are paying more than $$ for asian crapshoot you are throwing money away.

Get hooked up with Viviane's Thai providers for some WYSIWYG GFE. Starr is back in town next week with pages of positive reviews: [URL]http://iridescentstarr.gfefiles.com/[/URL].

Prefer Latin flavors? Contact Candy's booker: [URL]http://candylovely.wixsite.com/candy[/URL]. And ask who else is in town.

If you must roll the dice on those condos then request the 30 min rate and never upgrade.[/QUOTE]The background check for Starr is insane. Perfect way to position yourself for blackmail. Would not touch it with a 10' pole.

DC002.

[QUOTE=Bostonpeter;3243943]Sorry, I wasn't clear, it was 170 total. Still not a good deal. Chinese condos have always been a crapshoot with bad odds, I always regret it afterwards, but its been years since and I visited one and I was in a mood to try something new.

Your recommendations are vastly better, and is actually a better deal overall. Thank you![/QUOTE]Sorry BP, rereading your post I realize I misread our roses "code".

I've made that same choice before and also walked away disappointed.

I believe 2. 0 for real service or 1. 2 for FBSM are better value. In between is mostly disappointment.

If you do visit be good to the ladies.

[QUOTE=DC002;3245028]The background check for Starr is insane. Perfect way to position yourself for blackmail. Would not touch it with a 10' pole.

DC002.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't even touch it with an 8-inch pole. ;)

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;3233093]It's best to skip going to that incall. Shootings make the news and lead to in-depth investigations, and the last thing you want to be famous for is shooting someone, even in self-defense, while showing up at a location from an adult ad. It's juicy news and guaranteed to hit the national and probably international wires.

Taking a class and carrying are good ideas in their own right, but in this hobby, I'd rather stick to relatively safe, quiet, and low-key locations.[/QUOTE]I would hate to have to pull out on someone even if I am in my house. But, I would hate to not make it home and not be prepared. Living in prison is better than dying in the street. If you shot someone in self-defense after a date, let them investigate. BP just did us a favor. Women are now posting on women seeking men. I thought I was seeing someone on an accelerated e-harmony type basis. LOL.

[QUOTE=YoyoSpa;3245070]Sorry BP, rereading your post I realize I misread our roses "code".

I've made that same choice before and also walked away disappointed.

I believe 2. 0 for real service or 1. 2 for FBSM are better value. In between is mostly disappointment.

If you do visit be good to the ladies.[/QUOTE]According to her web site, Candy wants $$. 8 for an hour and $$ for the half-hour, plus an extra. 5 for outcall. That's pretty steep in my book.

[QUOTE=DC002;3245028]The background check for Starr is insane. Perfect way to position yourself for blackmail. Would not touch it with a 10' pole.

DC002.[/QUOTE]We don't even have an employee directory where I work, so that would be impossible. She doesn't need that kind of information, and mongers don't need to give her or anyone else that kind of information.

My experiences with the Asian crapshoot have been disappointing for the most part, but giving up what little remains of my privacy isn't worth the risk to see a provider who considers herself "elite".

[QUOTE=DC002;3245028]The background check for Starr is insane. Perfect way to position yourself for blackmail. Would not touch it with a 10' pole.

DC002.[/QUOTE]Not looking to dispute senior mongers, but there are various kinds of risks are different price levels. Starr's verification requirements are similar to the agencies, and she appears to be independent (I have not seen her). But as a reviewed provider, perhaps that is still reasonable.

Candy actually is an agency girl, and her prices are toward the low end for that market sector. Yes, there are risks in sharing that kind of information, but you are paying for quality control and to avoid the many risks of the BP scene. Choose your poison.

[QUOTE=Krakatoa;3246132]Not looking to dispute senior mongers, but there are various kinds of risks are different price levels. Starr's verification requirements are similar to the agencies, and she appears to be independent (I have not seen her). But as a reviewed provider, perhaps that is still reasonable.

Candy actually is an agency girl, and her prices are toward the low end for that market sector. Yes, there are risks in sharing that kind of information, but you are paying for quality control and to avoid the many risks of the BP scene. Choose your poison.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have had great providers that I knew for years suddenly turn into ROB, and I have had sketchy ones turn out to be cool girls. After a while you develope a risk appetite. If you're worried about being blackmailed, your appetite for screening is going to be lower which may make you miss out on an otherwise appealing provider.

[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3245421]We don't even have an employee directory where I work, so that would be impossible. She doesn't need that kind of information, and mongers don't need to give her or anyone else that kind of information.

My experiences with the Asian crapshoot have been disappointing for the most part, but giving up what little remains of my privacy isn't worth the risk to see a provider who considers herself "elite".[/QUOTE]If screening is too ambitious and or aggressive I move on. I learned from Senseis Bunker, Propilot, and Roamin. And remarkably missing of late Drunker Irish.

[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3246136]LOL. I have had great providers that I knew for years suddenly turn into ROB, and I have had sketchy ones turn out to be cool girls. After a while you develope a risk appetite. If you're worried about being blackmailed, your appetite for screening is going to be lower which may make you miss out on an otherwise appealing provider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Krakatoa;3246132]Not looking to dispute senior mongers, but there are various kinds of risks are different price levels. Starr's verification requirements are similar to the agencies, and she appears to be independent (I have not seen her). But as a reviewed provider, perhaps that is still reasonable.

Candy actually is an agency girl, and her prices are toward the low end for that market sector. Yes, there are risks in sharing that kind of information, but you are paying for quality control and to avoid the many risks of the BP scene. Choose your poison.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3246140]If screening is too ambitious and or aggressive I move on. I learned from Senseis Bunker, Propilot, and Roamin. And remarkably missing of late Drunker Irish.[/QUOTE]There are varying degrees of risk at all levels. Once you understand them, as Mike says, it's a question of your risk appetite. While I would pass on going through a verification 99.9% of the time, there might be someone so amazing and reputable that I decide it's worth it.

Some have to be more cautious for professional or personal reasons, others can take more chances.

Just think before you move forward and consider the worst that could happen along with the possibility of it happening.

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;3246421]There are varying degrees of risk at all levels. Once you understand them, as Mike says, it's a question of your risk appetite. While I would pass on going through a verification 99.9% of the time, there might be someone so amazing and reputable that I decide it's worth it.

Some have to be more cautious for professional or personal reasons, others can take more chances.

Just think before you move forward and consider the worst that could happen along with the possibility of it happening.[/QUOTE]I don't like to comment on verification in open forum because I think providers are understandably sensitive about this. So I won't say anything specific to Starr's booker (Viviane). With that caveat this is my advice:

Don't assume that all that stuff they ask for on a provider's website is actually required. This is one reason I never fill out the forms. Initiate contact by text or email in a way that shows you are serious: I ask if so-and-so is available to "meet a new friend" tomorrow. Assuming you hear back provide the minimum detail you are comfortable with and see how it goes. If the booker is interested they can always ask for more and you can always decline to provide it. Some like to call and I get the feeling they judge by the voice if this is the real deal. Others write back saying they will "check my refs" and a few hours later I hear back we are good to go.

In the case of K-girl agencies that first email should have your handles and refs in it. Still it's likely to go into a black hole. Most any other booker will get back to you promptly. And the true indy providers will get back to you just as soon as they get done with the client they are entertaining (which is why I try to send it out early morning).

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;3246421]There are varying degrees of risk at all levels. Once you understand them, as Mike says, it's a question of your risk appetite. While I would pass on going through a verification 99.9% of the time, there might be someone so amazing and reputable that I decide it's worth it.

Some have to be more cautious for professional or personal reasons, others can take more chances.

Just think before you move forward and consider the worst that could happen along with the possibility of it happening.[/QUOTE]I get paranoid of what can happen with any info that gets hacked years from now. Do they really delete the info? Can any info really be deleted in this day and age? I can't even imagine a situation like SA being hacked and info publicly posted. What about the security clearance files of OPM. Was hacked by the Chinese?

Scary World!

HG2.

Hello,

A newbie and if this is not the right place for this post then please accept my apologies and feel free to move the post to the right place.

Looking at BP ads and was wondering if anyone has any info on the following girl:

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-kitty-wants-to-play/26460737[/URL]

Also, any advice for how to safely validate ads would be appreciated.

Thanks,

I love Miketastic69 comment about the Backpage, and the "women seeking men" section ANALOGY: "accelerated e-harmony type basis" dating.

Ckassic!

HG2.

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;3247118]I love Miketastic69 comment about the Backpage, and the "women seeking men" section ANALOGY: "accelerated e-harmony type basis" dating.

Ckassic!

HG2.[/QUOTE]As a newbie, that section is what I'm looking into for my FIRST BP provider. Any tips would be highly appreciated.