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[QUOTE=JollyJohnRoger;6343359]PSA:

Buyer Beware.

I met this hot little number 6 months ago on SA.

The girl herself is amazing, but the drama with her booker / pimp / BF.

If you're texting 626-557-3x xx, you're talking to.

Her pimp / boyfriend / booker Randy, who lurks in the.

Background and uses recordings and texts for extortion / blackmail.

Purposes.

Protect yourself from being fucked over in a bad way. It's the.

Arrangement from hell, something you can't and won't forget![/QUOTE]So, It looks like there's a rebrand. ValentinaRose is now ValentinaBullet666.

Randy G. Still answers with the same number with the same douchebag questions.

Scam, fraud and extortion. It's a package deal.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6411414]Yeah, it depends on what you are doing. I saw a long-term SB until about July 2021. When we FCed, she got 300. But there were plenty of times we went for coffee, to a restaurant, to the dog park w / our pooches, and I definitely didn't provide any allowance. IK she was happy in and outside the bedroom w / what we were doing, and I didn't think twice to suggest something she wasn't getting $ for. Every now and then she is back in the area, we get together and cannot keep from rekindling the fire. We agree if she was here, we'd still be meeting up. That is an arrangement that has happened a couple or three times to me in the 6+ years I have been on the site. I might like to find that again, but you can't really seek it, any more than you can be sure you will find your soul mate on [URL]match.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]This has been happening to me A LOT lately. After seeing about 65 SA girls in 1. 5 years, I decided to slow down a bit and see just 1 girl that I really really like. Over the past 2 months, I've had 3 different girls just wanting to hang or sleepover. They aren't asking for compensation. Most recently had a girl sleepover before and after Coachella. Another girl I used to give 400 to fk, has been sleeping over 3-4 x a week for no pay. It's getting to the point where it's affecting my work because we always stay up late. I'm also having to lie to my current long term about why I can't see her as much. These 2 girls I've reconnected with are both 19. It also makes me wonder if my current LT will accept a lesser ppm.

I have another girl I used to give 500 ppm to just said it's ok that I give her 300. Something is up but whatever it is I'm liking it.

[QUOTE=NitroHX;6423473]This has been happening to me A LOT lately. After seeing about 65 SA girls in 1. 5 years, I decided to slow down a bit and see just 1 girl that I really really like. Over the past 2 months, I've had 3 different girls just wanting to hang or sleepover. They aren't asking for compensation. Most recently had a girl sleepover before and after Coachella. Another girl I used to give 400 to fk, has been sleeping over 3-4 x a week for no pay. It's getting to the point where it's affecting my work because we always stay up late. I'm also having to lie to my current long term about why I can't see her as much. These 2 girls I've reconnected with are both 19. It also makes me wonder if my current LT will accept a lesser ppm.

I have another girl I used to give 500 ppm to just said it's ok that I give her 300. Something is up but whatever it is I'm liking it.[/QUOTE]True story but you will get the point. A relative of mine used to be an auto designer at GM. He agreed to a salary for a full time position and started working. They would give him assignments and then tell him when they are done you can go home. Well the assignments were only taking like 2 hours a day. So he was like a pig in shit. But after about a month or two he noticed that the other designers were still working after he left. So he started working like 3 hours a day. As time went on he started to think this is TGTBT so I better work a little longer or maybe they will cut me loose.

In the end he was working overtime until one day he realized what was happening and then quit. So you start out maybe over paying for these girls and they are like wow. The guy is cool (and maybe good looking) this is great. Maybe I should do a little more, and then a little more. Not an apples to apples comparison but you get the point.

Also in my experience as the $ cost starts to decrease the emotional investments start to increase. Maybe you are ok with that and maybe not. And the non monetary favors and messaging start to increase as well.

So you are thinking this is great, let some other guy foot the bill. Been there, done that, doing it now. In my case I just don't have the funds not to do it if I want to get semi-steady pussy. In the past I declined certain girls (when I had the funds) as I knew what it would eventually lead to. You start telling yourself "I don't think we're in Kansas anymore". The quality problems of long term sugaring.

Sometimes, you can't win for losing. I saw a 23 year old a couple of weeks ago for the first time, she was pretty good but not great. I posted about her. The adopted one. I also have been messaging w / another girl, a bit older but much much prettier. Slender spinner, Hispanic. I finally spoke w / her by phone yesterday. Wow, great conversation. She's bright, well-spoken. I learned a bit more of her story. All systems go. We were supposed to M&G this morning. One problem, I had FC scheduled w / the adopted one. I made an excuse w / her so I could meet the new girl. I told newbie yesterday I would text to reconfirm first thing this morning, and I did that. However, I never got a reply. Still nothing this late in the day. She had only arrangement experience w / someone she met 'organic', in the wild I guess. IDK if she had even met someone from SA. I wouldn't mind if that were the case, so long as she would show up to meet me. I was pretty confident if I could get her to meet I would be able to bang her, at least once.

So I missed out on decent young pussy in favor of just a shot at outstanding young pussy. Whew!

So I have really be needing a great set of perky breasts and not having much luck with the young ladies I have been with. Got some advice and narrowed my search and the first one that popped up was a rounder Latina. Her pictures gave no hint to her breast type so I was pretty upfront and asked her about them She responded with, "Would you like to see them?" I never ask for revealing photos but she offered and they were just what I was looking for. Handfulls of perkiness. Also looking thinner in the pics. We moved things along and I saw her that night. I tried to bargain with $$. 5 and she asked for $$ The ceiling on these has risen no way around it. I agreed. I get to her place and she's even more attractive in person. Very intelligent and a lovely person. Her ass is round and tight and she is a pleaser. I am dealing with a lot of health issues these days and she was getting me up and going at 11 PM. A great closet mirror to witness our positions and her beautiful ass high in the air as I enter her from behind. We play for a number of hours. She has told me her job takes her out of state for several months and she will be leaving soon. Sure enough she leaves the following week. We are still in contact and unless things change (Which in all likelihood, they will) I will see her again in a few months. But what a great experience.

Currently on another staycation (for a week or so), this time with my now Domme, LT, x SB turned GF from L. A. We moan and groan on this thread about poor service and GPS. And no kink shaming here. But to the subs / slaves that send her money just to be degraded online, well that's a kind of GPS I doubt anyone here can fathom. Makes me grateful for the good times at reasonable rates that are mostly had on seeking.

I have been helping her with some content creation. Which some of it is just me going through the motions, as I am far from submissive. But some of it's fun and it ultimately leads to getting my needs met as well. Plus I am seeing a whole new world out there of crazy level GPS that probably no one here will ever (or want to) experience.

These online Dommes have their own private groups where they share subs / slaves, give advice, promote each other, and post their successes and failures. Saw a girl make 7 k in 20 minutes yesterday. Hoping my girl climbs the Domme ladder as time goes on. Currently she is covering her half of the expenses. So I am grateful for that.

My favorite kink so far are the cucks that send her money to spend on me and then we have sex. Then she tells them all about it and what a stud I am etc, etc. I love these guys. But like I said no shaming. If one of you reading is into this, I know you are getting your rocks off doing it. And the bottom line is that's what we are all doing one way or another.

And don't think for a minute that some of the girls you are sugaring aren't spending that on a same age loser BF.

Every once and a while I lead with my little head and nearly always regret it. Here is a reminder to keep your whits about you and don't be afraid to bail early when your spider senses are tingling.

I chatted back and forth with Bella on SA and then via cell. Decently responsive back and forth negotiated a BB meetup. We talk about a time and her coming to my place and then as it gets closer she alerts me that she may have to raincheck as her friends are trying to get her to go out to the club. She tells me she is figuring out her plans and will give me a call shortly. Hours go by and I pass out on the couch only to get woken up by a FaceTime from her where she is dancing around in a bra and thong and the little head says wake up and go see her. So naturally I do. I get to her hotel and am given a floor but not the room number. Writing this its like why did my brain not kick in any point along the way here? I get to the floor and am waiting for her to come grab me from the elevators. Security comes up asking what I am doing there and have to call her to get her to give me the room number so Security leaves me alone. Walk in the room and there is another naked girl in the room. A cute little blonde thing. Listen I like the company of naked women and all but surprise guests in the room is a big red flag. The room is a mess to the point where the blonde girl is looking for some panties and can't seem to find any anywhere. The bed is covered in bronzer and makeup residue. There is white powder residue on the rooms table. She asks for money upfront (why oh why did I give it to her. Ugh). Her friend says she will go stay in the bathroom while Bella and I get comfortable. Then the rules start coming out. No kissing with Bella, no BJ, no FIV, no. Well just lots of no. Then she asks if I brought a condom. I laugh and say um no we discussed bare and she gets really quite and says not to let her friend know she offers that. Meanwhile the friend who is "going to stay in the bathroom" keeps coming in and out of the room. Naturally I'm like how is this going to work with your friend coming in the room and you not wanting her to know? She has cotton mouth and can't get any lubrication going for the terrible HJ she is giving me and obviously isn't prepared with any lube so she is coughing up flem to try and jerk me off. Somehow I get hard and she says she isn't into doing any work so lies on her back and tells me to be gentle. I try and stick my dry dick into her dry pussy and am striking out as she is tiny only to hear her friend on the phone tell some guy to go ahead and come up. I stop. I'm like um what? More people are coming now? Some random dude. Yea this has gone from sketchy to super sketchy. I get dressed and am like yea we can't continue this. I ask for my money back and she is fighting the idea. I'll come over in the morning and make it up to you yada yada. I have no idea who this guy is who is coming up so not really in the mood to fight over the money so I just GTFO. Avoid at all costs gents. She is hot and tiny but terrible service and super sketchy experience.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/843d3d9b-8d2d-4826-b26f-923387af665f[/URL]

Other posts I have come across in other cities claim cards from 'Blackhawk' would work on SA. I had no idea how to locate those, however. I don't have a current source for the cards I have most recently gotten to work, OneVanilla.

So tonight I am in Gelson's grocery store and happen to see a prepaid card at the register. I look closely and it says 'Blackhawk'. More searching gets me to a Reddit thread, and it says specifically that these cards are sold in Gelson's in CA. It also mentions Staples and / or Office Depot, or Lowes.

Now I believe IK what to look for. I will go back to Gelson's tomorrow and get one of those cards, try it out and report back.

Damn what a bust.

Onwards and upwards it least nothing crazy happened.

Stay safe.

AD.

[QUOTE=Egor2011;6429128]Every once and a while I lead with my little head and nearly always regret it. Here is a reminder to keep your whits about you and don't be afraid to bail early when your spider senses are tingling.

I chatted back and forth with Bella on SA and then via cell. Decently responsive back and forth negotiated a BB meetup. We talk about a time and her coming to my place and then as it gets closer she alerts me that she may have to raincheck as her friends are trying to get her to go out to the club. She tells me she is figuring out her plans and will give me a call shortly. Hours go by and I pass out on the couch only to get woken up by a FaceTime from her where she is dancing around in a bra and thong and the little head says wake up and go see her. So naturally I do. I get to her hotel and am given a floor but not the room number. Writing this its like why did my brain not kick in any point along the way here? I get to the floor and am waiting for her to come grab me from the elevators. Security comes up asking what I am doing there and have to call her to get her to give me the room number so Security leaves me alone. Walk in the room and there is another naked girl in the room. A cute little blonde thing. Listen I like the company of naked women and all but surprise guests in the room is a big red flag.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fefe44c4-b52b-478a-85c4-eced12bd63b1[/URL]

This young lady sent me a very lengthy message on how she introduces men with beautiful Ukrainian women and she "manages" the interactions until we find the women we want then she sets up the meet up and takes her 900 fee for instruction. Sounds more like a pimp to me.

[QUOTE=Egor2011;6429128]Every once and a while I lead with my little head and nearly always regret it. Here is a reminder to keep your whits about you and don't be afraid to bail early when your spider senses are tingling.

I chatted back and forth with Bella on SA and then via cell. Decently responsive back and forth negotiated a BB meetup. We talk about a time and her coming to my place and then as it gets closer she alerts me that she may have to raincheck as her friends are trying to get her to go out to the club. She tells me she is figuring out her plans and will give me a call shortly. Hours go by and I pass out on the couch only to get woken up by a FaceTime from her where she is dancing around in a bra and thong and the little head says wake up and go see her. So naturally I do. I get to her hotel and am given a floor but not the room number. Writing this its like why did my brain not kick in any point along the way here? I get to the floor and am waiting for her to come grab me from the elevators. Security comes up asking what I am doing there and have to call her to get her to give me the room number so Security leaves me alone. Walk in the room and there is another naked girl in the room. A cute little blonde thing. Listen I like the company of naked women and all but surprise guests in the room is a big red flag. The room is a mess to the point where the blonde girl is looking for some panties and can't seem to find any anywhere. The bed is covered in bronzer and makeup residue. There is white powder residue on the rooms table. She asks for money upfront (why oh why did I give it to her. Ugh). Her friend says she will go stay in the bathroom while Bella and I get comfortable. Then the rules start coming out. No kissing with Bella, no BJ, no FIV, no. Well just lots of no.[/QUOTE]That's so bad to hear. Never ever move forward even if you have slight doubt, not worth it. There are so many girls just move on with your game than stick to one. Also I always meet in public setting for first meet to gauge, you will get fairly great idea whether girl is genuine or not. So stay safe and be vigilant.

[QUOTE=JollyJohnRoger;6423397]So, It looks like there's a rebrand. ValentinaRose is now ValentinaBullet666.

Randy G. Still answers with the same number with the same douchebag questions.

Scam, fraud and extortion. It's a package deal.[/QUOTE]Sigh. Good Vibes 111X on SecretBenefits.

Hot, but so is lava.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6429426]Other posts I have come across in other cities claim cards from 'Blackhawk' would work on SA. I had no idea how to locate those, however. I don't have a current source for the cards I have most recently gotten to work, OneVanilla.

So tonight I am in Gelson's grocery store and happen to see a prepaid card at the register. I look closely and it says 'Blackhawk'. More searching gets me to a Reddit thread, and it says specifically that these cards are sold in Gelson's in CA. It also mentions Staples and / or Office Depot, or Lowes.

Now I believe IK what to look for. I will go back to Gelson's tomorrow and get one of those cards, try it out and report back.[/QUOTE]Posted my success and details on the Richmond VA sugar thread.

[QUOTE=HappyJob;6429668][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fefe44c4-b52b-478a-85c4-eced12bd63b1[/URL]

This young lady sent me a very lengthy message on how she introduces men with beautiful Ukrainian women and she "manages" the interactions until we find the women we want then she sets up the meet up and takes her 900 fee for instruction. Sounds more like a pimp to me.[/QUOTE]She's trying to set men up to go to Ukraine, or meet Ukrainians here? I hope it's the former. The latter is a war zone. I get reach outs from women in Ukraine on the app pretty regularly.

[QUOTE=Murrican;6432577]She's trying to set men up to go to Ukraine, or meet Ukrainians here? I hope it's the former. The latter is a war zone. I get reach outs from women in Ukraine on the app pretty regularly.[/QUOTE]There are websites for that. Russian women dating. But Ukraine, I don't think so. lol.