"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5368421]I'm not married, so don't worry like most of the married men here. There are other reasons to keep your name and information hidden. I just drop a 20 years old Sugar, because I was bored of her. I also have too much on my plate, and she was just hard to schedule a date with. 5 days later she tells me that her period hasn't come. Told her to get a home test at CVS. It's been 3 days and no word back, so I'm probably ok. Only BC we were using was Plan B, because she didn't want to use the pill. I always bought Plan B and made sure she took it before she left. I only interact with her on my burner or snapchat. She never seen my car, and I always hidden my wallet or leave it in my car during dates. She doesn't know my real name, but I have her real name because she has her student Id under her clear phone case. I will be keeping up with her social media for a few months to see if there is a belly. If she pregnant Plan B fail me twice this year already. Had to pay for my long time 22 years old SB to take care of it. She doesn't like the pill either. She got a IUD after she took care of it. I don't mind paying for the girls to take care of it, but I'm worried about the ones who will keep it.

Love being their Sugar Daddy, but don't want to be their Baby Daddy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5368968]For gods sake -- get snipped!! I would have babies all over the world otherwise!! 25-50 buck copay! Inpatient -- just need a buddy to take you home.[/QUOTE]Seriously. I just don't understand why anyone would mess around with the possibility of paying for all the shit that comes with 18 years of child support. I got snipped and it's just so freeing to dump loads with impunity. I don't even tell them I'm fixed unless they ask.

True story. Had a guy that worked for me years ago get found by some one-nighter he didn't know well. Took her 14 years to find him and he got hit with all the back pay. So even if you don't hear something and think you're out of the woods, you aren't.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5368421]I'm not married, so don't worry like most of the married men here. There are other reasons to keep your name and information hidden. I just drop a 20 years old Sugar, because I was bored of her. I also have too much on my plate, and she was just hard to schedule a date with. 5 days later she tells me that her period hasn't come. Told her to get a home test at CVS. It's been 3 days and no word back, so I'm probably ok. Only BC we were using was Plan B, because she didn't want to use the pill. I always bought Plan B and made sure she took it before she left. I only interact with her on my burner or snapchat. She never seen my car, and I always hidden my wallet or leave it in my car during dates. She doesn't know my real name, but I have her real name because she has her student Id under her clear phone case. I will be keeping up with her social media for a few months to see if there is a belly. If she pregnant Plan B fail me twice this year already. Had to pay for my long time 22 years old SB to take care of it. She doesn't like the pill either. She got a IUD after she took care of it. I don't mind paying for the girls to take care of it, but I'm worried about the ones who will keep it.

Love being their Sugar Daddy, but don't want to be their Baby Daddy.[/QUOTE]Holy hell, this post gives me anxiety. What the f*.

Plan B should not be used for birth control -- it's not that reliable. That said, it's a pill full of hormones and it does mess with the girls' monthly schedule. So it's not surprising if she's off if you've been pumping baby batter and plan b into her.

I'm in my 30's and have no children. I want to start a family some day. So not going to snip it. My main fetish are creampies too. So I will keep rolling the dice for now. Just started filling up a single 21 years old mom right now. Need to get her on the pill soon, because as my post say Plan B isn't 100%.

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5368968]For gods sake -- get snipped!! I would have babies all over the world otherwise!! 25-50 buck copay! Inpatient -- just need a buddy to take you home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5369145]I'm in my 30's and have no children. I want to start a family some day. So not going to snip it. My main fetish are creampies too. So I will keep rolling the dice for now. Just started filling up a single 21 years old mom right now. Need to get her on the pill soon, because as my post say Plan B isn't 100%.[/QUOTE]Vasectomy is highly reversible; it's quick outpatient surgery with 2 or 3 week recovery but to each his own.

It's not cheap to do

[QUOTE=Tidad;5370022]Vasectomy is highly reversible; it's quick outpatient surgery with 2 or 3 week recovery but to each his own.[/QUOTE].

She reads these forums but probably doesn't care anymore. As mentioned in previous posts, drives a white Mercedes, and had been around for a long time. Cover up! Cream pie was great. Not sure why I lived so dangerous and stupid. As all attractive girls, this one is a little crazy but smart. Age is always older than her profile on SA / Seeking (which turns off occasionally). It was a fun ride but the crazy part became an issue. Won't go near anymore but there is a long line of guys that will. Not a Sugarbaby. This one is a professional.

[QUOTE=FanRat;5140654]I saw her a couple times a couple years ago. Good looking, very skilled and very tight. She wanted $300 a visit but I got her to $200. We always went to eat after and she would order a ton of takeout to take home. Guessing she has a big family to feed.[/QUOTE]

Spot on she always get a ton of takeout. I just think she eats the leftovers for the next few days. Nice curves and big boobs. My biggest problem with her is that she always thinks and talk in a very negative view of her self and the world. Just makes me sad talking to her. Yes, creampie can be had, but clearly she also has high turnover of SDs.

[QUOTE=NotBob2014;5370693]She reads these forums but probably doesn't care anymore. As mentioned in previous posts, drives a white Mercedes, and had been around for a long time. Cover up! Cream pie was great. Not sure why I lived so dangerous and stupid. As all attractive girls, this one is a little crazy but smart. Age is always older than her profile on SA / Seeking (which turns off occasionally). It was a fun ride but the crazy part became an issue. Won't go near anymore but there is a long line of guys that will. Not a Sugarbaby. This one is a professional.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tidad] Vasectomy is highly reversible; it's quick outpatient surgery with 2 or 3 week recovery but to each his own. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BStreet;5370328]It's not cheap to do

.[/QUOTE]It's cheaper than 18 years of child support, which he's on track for if he continues on his path. To each his own, and better him than me!

I have a creampie fetish, so I'm not one to pull out. I did talk to my new 21 year old SB. She agree to get on the pill now. I never had a problem with any BC till this year with Plan B. I don't plan to use plan B as a main type of birth control anymore. I've had ex GFs count their cycles, and never had a problem. I always ask my SBs if they would keep it, if I did impregnate them most said no. Only had one ex SB who said she would keep it. She was on the pill, but I still pull out 80% of the time with her.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;5371348]It's cheaper than 18 years of child support, which he's on track for if he continues on his path. To each his own, and better him than me![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5371479]I have a creampie fetish, so I'm not one to pull out. I did talk to my new 21 year old SB. She agree to get on the pill now. I never had a problem with any BC till this year with Plan B. I don't plan to use plan B as a main type of birth control anymore. I've had ex GFs count their cycles, and never had a problem. I always ask my SBs if they would keep it, if I did impregnate them most said no. Only had one ex SB who said she would keep it. She was on the pill, but I still pull out 80% of the time with her.[/QUOTE]Counting on an SB to keep their agreement to "not keep it" is seriously misguided thinking. I'd guess most of us enjoy emptying out inside a nice young pussy, so you aren't a lone star in the sky regarding that. As others have indicated, you stand a good chance of letting that live ammo of yours cause long term problems for you. Best of luck.

The pill isn't 100 % effective, especially if they don't take in daily. I wouldn't trust a young SB to say "yes, I take it every day".

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5371479]I have a creampie fetish, so I'm not one to pull out. I did talk to my new 21 year old SB. She agree to get on the pill now. I never had a problem with any BC till this year with Plan B. I don't plan to use plan B as a main type of birth control anymore. I've had ex GFs count their cycles, and never had a problem. I always ask my SBs if they would keep it, if I did impregnate them most said no. Only had one ex SB who said she would keep it. She was on the pill, but I still pull out 80% of the time with her.[/QUOTE]

I have a long term stay in Europe coming up. Anyone know of a site like this with info on sugar scene in different Euro countries?

Cheers.

So, curious if anyone else has tried AFF latelty? I did about 10 years ago back in CA and had some decent success. When I loved to VA, I've used Seeking with similar success but much higher price tag with the membership. Just curious what you all are doing / using to snag some fun. I get maybe 2 x per month to play so want to make the most of it (travel too damn much and SO at home). Would love to find an easy going girl to simply text, meet up, and have some fun but don't want to pay $ a month for a damn membership to find / communicate with one. Any thoughts / advice would be great.

[QUOTE=lobsid]I always ask my SBs if they would keep it, if I did impregnate them most said no.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't bet the house on those statements, or try to take any of them to the bank. Of course most girls will say "no, of course I wouldn't keep it" while they're talking to their human wallet and not currently preggo. And as guys we all think, "Of course she won't want to keep the baby. It's not like we're married, and there's like a 20-30 year age difference, and this is no environment to raise a child and surely she'll know that I won't leave my wife and kids so she'll be doing this on her own and that's super hard. " That's common sense, right? But once pregnancy happens, with some of them (and you never know which ones), the hormones will kick in and she'll realize that she's got this little miracle baaaaaaaabbbbbyyyy growing inside of her and all bets are off. And once sperm and egg meet, the woman has 1000% control, rights and decision making power. Uncle Sam will step in and make sure of that.

So when you ask if she would keep the baby if she got pregnant, or if she's taking the pill regularly and correctly, or even what part of her cycle she's in, realize that just like many of us guys here are "looking for love in all the wrong places", you're looking for logic and reason in all the wrong places.

Be careful, friend.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;5372118]I wouldn't bet the house on those statements, or try to take any of them to the bank. [/QUOTE]Yeah. About to write a 50 k check to settle with a babymama from 22 years ago. Not a SB but a bar hookup, paid for the clinic at the time and then she backed out. Snip it or sleeve it. I wasn't even smart enough to learn then, till about 6-7 years ago a SB told me she was late. Turned out to be a false alarm but I couldn't get it cut fast enough after that. Like he said, once it's fertilized she owns you and there is NOTHING you can do.

Whats a two layer vpn?

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;5354052]Really great advice especially in relation to current tech and resources.

But I would just caution you can have an anonymous burner phone with a two layer VPN attached to a fake I'd, but if you leave your burner phone in a jacket pocket, then all that subterfuge is completely useless and in some cases exasperates the situation further. This is why I try to reduce as many "foreign objects" as possible. The advantages of a burner phone is that you can really leave "no trace" with it from a records / digital standpoint whereas something like Google Voice is a like parasitic fungus relentlessly trying to find and integrate itself into your personal data until you can no longer separate it cleanly. But I classify a burner as a "foreign object" that will raise alarms on sight. Your SO wouldn't even need the pin to unlock the phone, it's very presence is like her finding a hairbrush with strands of long wavy red hair. There's no clean explanation for it. Same thing with Vanilla VISA cards. They're not as incriminating as a burner phone, but it's a foreign object.

So I think it's important to strike a balance between subterfuge to conceal a paper trail between leaving foreign objects around. Because 8 times out of 10, guys get busted for leaving the "tape in the VCR". This is also why I recommend using the technique of "hiding in plain sight" for some things. This gives you some margin of error and you can see ahead of time if someone is getting too close to the cookie jar. For example, if you're going to use Vanilla Visa cards, start using them in your everyday life with your SO. Find some excuse to use prepaid cards like for budgeting or identify theft reasons. This way if you leave your sugar prepaid card lying around, your SO won't bat an eye because she thinks it's the same one you use for DoorDash. So I think it's important to strike a balance in techniques and always err on the side of reducing foreign objects.

BTW, having a sugar baby in your car is always risky. Her scent, her leaving hair ties, and etc. Having a SB in your car is like a spore for foreign objects. But if you're going to do it, make sure no one goes into or uses your car for 24 hours if it can be helped. You should examine your car in full daylight and drive it some for foreign objects to be dislodged from hidden places and to have the windows down to help get rid of strong odors. So right after you drop of your SB, you should do a deep cleaning of your car, and then 12-18 hours later do another cleaning in bright conditions to make sure you got everything. But for God's sake don't let your SO in your car within just a few hours of driving your SB around town and having backseat sex.

[B]Scammers[/B]

Briefly about the college time waster from Germany. I hate to break it to you, but she's fake. Or at the very least not in San Diego. Those SA geolocation things are pretty accurate and they're for your benefit. But let's say her location says "United States" and yet something still feels off. I usually do something like this to see if she really does live in my area. I'll say some of the following:

"Wow, crazy weather we had yesterday, right?

*If she claims to live in downtown*.

"What do you think of *popular downtown restaurant*.

*After you ask her for her favorite foods*.

"What are some of the good places that serve that dish?

"Have you been to a San Diego 49 ers game before?

Of course a diligent person could lookup and research the answers for all of these. But 9 times out of 10, scammers are lazy. If they can't answer something, they'll just give a vague answer or deflect. One or two vague answers can be normal, but if the person you're chatting with consistently gives you vague, wrong, or non-answers to questions related to the local area or meeting up in person, then chances are high she doesn't actually live in the area.

I also like college girls that haven't become "pro-sugar babies" yet. They can sometimes require a little more massaging and patience but once it gets going the arrangement can feel more natural. That said, if a girl is actually serious about pursing an arrangement, they are usually eager to meet within a week of chatting. Sometimes schedule conflicts may push it by a couple of weeks. But if you've been chatting for over a week and there hasn't been any talk of meeting and person, then it's a waste of time. Most legit girls in a local area, want to meet right away. If they don't want to meet it's either because they don't live in the area, they want an online-only arrangement, they're not serious / ready for an arrangement, or they already have a sugar daddy and they're setting you as a backup.

My current sugar baby is a college girl who was completely new to arrangements and we met within 3 days of chatting. And we've been seeing each other for 6 months now. Remember if a girl is actually in college and if she's attractive, she's constantly meeting and hanging with people all the time. College girls aren't shy about meeting new people And she shouldn't be overly shy / reluctant to meet with you unless you're literally inviting her to your dungeon on the first date.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StayAnonymous;5372394]Whats a two layer vpn?[/QUOTE]It's a muliti-hop VPN.


[url=https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/multi-hop-vpn/]What is a multi-hop VPN and do you need one?[/url]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e147386c-5b29-4b8b-a342-274b6849e9f8[/URL] -- not her first rodeo. NOT slim, more athletic to average. Willig to host, has pole in her bedroom. Wants $700, BBFS, no back door action.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c9fa5150-22ae-4de8-acca-9a238d20cfa5[/URL] - insatiatble appetite, flexible work sked, happy with $300. All roads open and very kinky.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ffac82dc-0e41-4b77-a87a-d26de8e5bed9[/URL] -- good initial convo, seems to get it, but seems to busy to meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8c9a8e21-f4f9-44d0-bddb-1bbe330703c8[/URL] - would be worth the drive up 95. High sex drive, great convo very open to all kinds of situations.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e8304111-550e-46a3-9dbf-bb4f8fa0ebfb[/URL] - in OBX for the summer, looking for virtual / online till she returns.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;5372291]Yeah. About to write a 50 k check to settle with a babymama from 22 years ago. Not a SB but a bar hookup, paid for the clinic at the time and then she backed out. Snip it or sleeve it. I wasn't even smart enough to learn then, till about 6-7 years ago a SB told me she was late. Turned out to be a false alarm but I couldn't get it cut fast enough after that. Like he said, once it's fertilized she owns you and there is NOTHING you can do.[/QUOTE]Did you get identified bunt using [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] or 32 & Me DNA testing? I know a ton of people that are finding relatives, including kids thy or a family member didn't know existed.

If you have deposited baby batter in anyone, do yourself a huge favor & don't take the risk of outing yourself. I heard from a cousin years ago that I knocked up a hot single Mom when I was 18 or 19. She asked me not to pop in her but I did anyway.

I was young and inexperienced & hitting her doggie back when goths didn't do doggie. In the 70's doggie was like anal today.

There was caution about having a SB in your car (when you have a SO). I recommend taking your car to a full-service car wash ASAP after you meet. They will remove a lot of evidence, they could add a fragrance that will cover the SBs perfume, and if the SO wants to know why the seat position changed or whatever, you have a built-in excuse. I also see female workers at my car wash (this is in CA), their presence in the car is also a good cover.

Multi-hop VPN. Great example is TOR, which is a browser that jumps around to 4 different servers at different places all over the world before emerging onto the open internet. That way, there is no way someone can trace you based on your IP address. Be aware, though, there are other ways people on the web try to identify you, such as the MAC address on your device, even the size of your browser window.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5375148]

Multi-hop VPN. Great example is TOR, which is a browser that jumps around to 4 different servers at different places all over the world before emerging onto the open internet. That way, there is no way someone can trace you based on your IP address. Be aware, though, there are other ways people on the web try to identify you, such as the MAC address on your device, even the size of your browser window.[/QUOTE]Not to get too detailed, but Tor is NOT a VPN. Not saying it doesn't provide some anonymity, but it's not the same thing as a VPN. The more you know and all that.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5371988]I have a long term stay in Europe coming up. Anyone know of a site like this with info on sugar scene in different Euro countries?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I've done it and it's been fun but to be honest in Europe check out an FKK club. It will blow your mind and much less expensive.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5375148]There was caution about having a SB in your car (when you have a SO). I recommend taking your car to a full-service car wash ASAP after you meet. They will remove a lot of evidence, they could add a fragrance that will cover the SBs perfume, and if the SO wants to know why the seat position changed or whatever, you have a built-in excuse. I also see female workers at my car wash (this is in CA), their presence in the car is also a good cover.[/QUOTE]The whole SB in the car thing is such a pain. I've occasionally had SB dalliances at the same time as I've had a civilian girlfriend and I learned early on (never the hard way, thankfully) that having someone in the car can really leave a lot of evidence. From drug paraphernalia to scrunchies to barrettes to lighters to different color / different length hair and more, it seems like SBs shed incriminating crap on purpose. Like FFA, I go completely CSI on my car after every encounter and look in every nook and cranny for anything, including hairs. It's amazing where those get into.

Perfume is another trouble spot. I drive home with the windows and sunroof open (and the heat on full blast if it's cold), and leave them open overnight in the garage to further air things out. A place that almost got me once except for a quick lie is the seat belt. SBs will spray their neck / chest area with perfume which rubs off onto the seat belt, and that shit lasts forever, days to a week if they've overdone it. The only thing I've found that helps at all besides time is rubbing the offending area of the seat belt with a bounce dryer sheet. It reduces the perfume smell and replaces it with a fabric softener smell, which is much less noticeable and incriminating.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5371988]I have a long term stay in Europe coming up. Anyone know of a site like this with info on sugar scene in different Euro countries?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]There's always this one: [URL]http://internationalsexguide.nl/[/URL].

Did some recon and wanted to share some intel with my friends.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f492861-6fa5-4b2c-925f-72c66452043a[/URL]

Cute girl, really cute. Was cool to chat with via SA / text but wants $600 ppm. Her responses were a little dry / hit or miss so didn't feel like it was worth my time so moved on. *.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e3ec2e72-a3ae-40e2-baae-b753184c5836[/URL]

Another one that was pretty quick to move to text. This one wants 200 for m&g and then additional 400 for fun. Wasn't willing to budge so put her in the gps category and threw her back to the sea.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c7236c88-a693-427b-8e61-89f31aeaca6e[/URL]

I really wanted to like this one since I haven't been with an Asian in a little while. She is def not new to this and is expecting top dollar ($400+) so guard your wallets. Haha. I've moved on so hope someone else can enjoy.

Haven't been on AFF for years but I did find all (6- 10) of my first sb's on there back in the pre seeking days, lots of fun but I haven't been on AFF for years.

Maybe I'll take another look.

[QUOTE=WilliamsJJ703;5376946]Did some recon and wanted to share some intel with my friends.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f492861-6fa5-4b2c-925f-72c66452043a[/URL]

Cute girl, really cute. Was cool to chat with via SA / text but wants $600 ppm. Her responses were a little dry / hit or miss so didn't feel like it was worth my time so moved on.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I got the same story from her. Plus she mentioned having TWO sugar dates on the same day a couple of weeks back, so take a number and wait to hear "Next".

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;5375520]The whole SB in the car thing is such a pain. I've occasionally had SB dalliances at the same time as I've had a civilian girlfriend and I learned early on (never the hard way, thankfully) that having someone in the car can really leave a lot of evidence. From drug paraphernalia to scrunchies to barrettes to lighters to different color / different length hair and more, it seems like SBs shed incriminating crap on purpose. Like FFA, I go completely CSI on my car after every encounter and look in every nook and cranny for anything, including hairs. It's amazing where those get into.

Perfume is another trouble spot. I drive home with the windows and sunroof open (and the heat on full blast if it's cold), and leave them open overnight in the garage to further air things out. A place that almost got me once except for a quick lie is the seat belt. SBs will spray their neck / chest area with perfume which rubs off onto the seat belt, and that shit lasts forever, days to a week if they've overdone it. The only thing I've found that helps at all besides time is rubbing the offending area of the seat belt with a bounce dryer sheet. It reduces the perfume smell and replaces it with a fabric softener smell, which is much less noticeable and incriminating.[/QUOTE]Another little tip is to keep hand sanitizer in your car. After an outing with your SB, rub hand sanitizer up and down your forearms and put some around your neck. In the age of covid, your SO won't bat an eye that you smell of hand sanitizer. And because hand sanitizer has such a strong medical odor, people tend to pull away once they get a whiff of it. So your SO likely won't be taking long deep sniffs of you.

She a load of BS. She sent me a pic of a home pregnancy test. I told her that I would take care of all expenses to remove the problem, but I need her to do the pee test before and after removal with me. She tells me a one excuse after another. Why she can't meetup. 1st she say I should trust her, and it's her body it has nothing to do with me. I told it has 18 years of child support for me. Then she said move farther away, and it would be a drive to see her. I told her I'm willing to meet any were with in 4 hrs drive. Then she say she business with work. I said you have at less half a day off we can meet any day your free. She say she move back with her ex and I can't come to her apt. I told her we never had any problems meeting at a hotel before. Then she say her Ex is controlling and requires her to share her location all the time. I told her that I can get a hotel close to a shopping Center and just leave her phone in the car for 15 mins while she meets up at hotel. She told me she will get back to me when she free.

This is the same girl who was in the middle of work and finals last month, but made time for me to creampie her. Now she only has work, but is too busy to meetup for 15 mins. 3 days now and no text now. Let's see what other reasons she finds to not do the pee test for me. Its been 3 days after her last msg. Let's see what other reasons she finds to avoid doing the pee test for me.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5379520]She a load of BS. She sent me a pic of a home pregnancy test. I told her that I would take care of all expenses to remove the problem, but I need her to do the pee test before and after removal with me. She tells me a one excuse after another. Why she can't meetup. 1st she say I should trust her, and it's her body it has nothing to do with me. I told it has 18 years of child support for me. Then she said move farther away, and it would be a drive to see her. I told her I'm willing to meet any were with in 4 hrs drive. Then she say she business with work. I said you have at less half a day off we can meet any day your free. She say she move back with her ex and I can't come to her apt. I told her we never had any problems meeting at a hotel before. Then she say her Ex is controlling and requires her to share her location all the time. I told her that I can get a hotel close to a shopping Center and just leave her phone in the car for 15 mins while she meets up at hotel. She told me she will get back to me when she free.

This is the same girl who was in the middle of work and finals last month, but made time for me to creampie her. Now she only has work, but is too busy to meetup for 15 mins. 3 days now and no text now. Let's see what other reasons she finds to not do the pee test for me. Its been 3 days after her last msg. Let's see what other reasons she finds to avoid doing the pee test for me.[/QUOTE]Same old, same old. Hoes don't lie a little bit or even most of the time. They literally lie non-stop, like every-single-word-out-of-their-mouth-lying! When will men learn? (Based on many posts I read on here: never.). Lobsid, good on you for having a good head on your shoulders and calling her out.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5379921]Same old, same old. Hoes don't lie a little bit or even most of the time. They literally lie non-stop, like every-single-word-out-of-their-mouth-lying! When will men learn? (Based on many posts I read on here: never.). Lobsid, good on you for having a good head on your shoulders and calling her out.[/QUOTE]Just to add why would anybody not strap up? Yea it feels good and all but holy crap unless you want a baby with this person. Strap the fuck up yall. These bitches are just looking for a permanent SD for the next 18 years and trust you will pay. Be safe think smart.

You can say the same thing about hooking up with a escort or sugar. You can just jerk off, and reduce your risk to zero. We all have different needs, and what we are willing to risk. Try reading some of the street walking threads in the big cities. Those guys are bbfscip / greek on girls they know are hard drug users. I even told 1 forum member in NOVA not to bang a sugar I meetup with once last year, because I knew she had the gift that keeps giving. He told me he wouldn't, but I found out from another forum member that he still bbfscip that SB. We all have to make that personal decision on what we are willing to rise. I'm worried about STD more then if I impregnate a girl.

[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5380108]Just to add why would anybody not strap up? Yea it feels good and all but holy crap unless you want a baby with this person. Strap the fuck up yall. These bitches are just looking for a permanent SD for the next 18 years and trust you will pay. Be safe think smart.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;5377100]Another little tip is to keep hand sanitizer in your car. After an outing with your SB, rub hand sanitizer up and down your forearms and put some around your neck. In the age of covid, your SO won't bat an eye that you smell of hand sanitizer. And because hand sanitizer has such a strong medical odor, people tend to pull away once they get a whiff of it. So your SO likely won't be taking long deep sniffs of you.[/QUOTE]Yet another tip is use Coppertone Sport Clear Cooling Gel Sunscreen. It is strong smelling stuff. My daily job is outside so always use sunscreen. Even the cat stays clear of me until I shower that stuff away. I also drink a spicy V8 juice on the way home to cover up any DATY breath.

Agreed. Was just my opinion and yes I didn't stress enough on the disease of it. Pregnancy is actually secondary to a lot of things you can get that can't be cured.

She waits a week, and texted me today that she keeping it. I don't know how I should respond. Clearly she lying. She said she moved in with her ex BF. Wouldn't he wonder why if she suddenly got pregnant, especially since I'm Asian and she and her ex are both white. So what should I do.

1. Just ignore her.

2. Call out her lying.

3. Play along with her, and tell her I love the fact that I did breed her.

I'm leaning more towards option 1 or 3.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5379921]Same old, same old. Hoes don't lie a little bit or even most of the time. They literally lie non-stop, like every-single-word-out-of-their-mouth-lying! When will men learn? (Based on many posts I read on here: never.). Lobsid, good on you for having a good head on your shoulders and calling her out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5387044]She waits a week, and texted me today that she keeping it. I don't know how I should respond. Clearly she lying. She said she moved in with her ex BF. Wouldn't he wonder why if she suddenly got pregnant, especially since I'm Asian and she and her ex are both white. So what should I do.

1. Just ignore her.

2. Call out her lying.

3. Play along with her, and tell her I love the fact that I did breed her.

I'm leaning more towards option 1 or 3.[/QUOTE]Of course she's not backing down. From your previous post it's obvious there is no baby (her insistence you can't see her pee on a stick). You have absolutely nothing to gain from even one more reply to this girl. #1 is the way to go. Ignore, block, and forget this chick. There is nothing left in this situation for you. All you'll do is prolong the inevitable. NEXT!

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5387044]She waits a week, and texted me today that she keeping it. I don't know how I should respond. Clearly she lying. She said she moved in with her ex BF. Wouldn't he wonder why if she suddenly got pregnant, especially since I'm Asian and she and her ex are both white. So what should I do.

1. Just ignore her.

2. Call out her lying.

3. Play along with her, and tell her I love the fact that I did breed her.

I'm leaning more towards option 1 or 3.[/QUOTE]Do? #1 is the only reasonable option. I'm 100% with EvilTmp; there is no reason to continue engaging w this person. You're not fucking her any more, she lied about having your child and she tried to blackmail you; what more are you looking for?

Ghost her my friend.

Stay safe.

AD.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5387044]She waits a week, and texted me today that she keeping it. I don't know how I should respond. Clearly she lying. She said she moved in with her ex BF. Wouldn't he wonder why if she suddenly got pregnant, especially since I'm Asian and she and her ex are both white. So what should I do.

1. Just ignore her.

2. Call out her lying.

3. Play along with her, and tell her I love the fact that I did breed her.

I'm leaning more towards option 1 or 3.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5387044]She waits a week, and texted me today that she keeping it. I don't know how I should respond. Clearly she lying. She said she moved in with her ex BF. Wouldn't he wonder why if she suddenly got pregnant, especially since I'm Asian and she and her ex are both white. So what should I do.

1. Just ignore her.

2. Call out her lying.

3. Play along with her, and tell her I love the fact that I did breed her.

I'm leaning more towards option 1 or 3.[/QUOTE]Now you have 3 votes for Option #1 - IGNORE HER! Don't forget to block her!

One technique a scammer uses is to keep in touch and keep you responding. Eventually they will break you down or wear you down where you will give in. But if you block them AND pledge to yourself to ignore them then it is over. Eventually with no replies she will run out of energy. But a prime example of why one needs OpSec when dating.

Here's some more 411 for ya guys.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/59f74119-d6ce-4252-887b-7046f36ccd7c[/URL]

This one is a hot mess. Moved quickly to text and first message she sends is "I need help with bills. " she sends a few pix but clearly she is a hot mess. Gives me an utr type of feeling.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0861aed3-2de1-4916-98cf-dba8e9d1ef7f[/URL]

This one has no idea what she wants. It was like teeth trying to get her to indicate what she's looking for so I gave up. Too much work for little reward. *.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2a24f791-2707-4b14-a62b-25cdce4ee0e8[/URL]

Not my usual type. Single mom with kid that lives with her. Was dtf pretty quickly. Very persistent for me to give her a price which threw me off. Maybe it's paranoia of hearing from Uncle LEO, she stopped responding after the agreed upon arrangement and location so oh well. *.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5155e0fb-b732-434e-a1c5-41c2dce79a70[/URL]

When I initially emailed her I was a bit hesitant because it seemed too good to be true. Her first email back was "can I have your email and phone number" . Got the sense its spam so blocked her. *.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c95fc40d-0195-4ef5-9da9-8f4063577367[/URL]

Nice girl but way too shy for me. She, admittedly said she was shy and wanted to take things slow. Thats not what I'm looking for so wished her to best. No exchange of arrangement details to share, sorry.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad355f28-8718-45c7-aaa4-16784f4c96b2[/URL]

Says car broke down and needs help. Just wants to sell pix. No intention of meeting up or starting something. *.

Does anyone have any real SB's they want to share? If so, hit me up. I've done so much digging and only a few are on the hooks. Appreciate it in advance fellas. Enjoy.