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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6403301]I realize this isn't strictly a sugar question, but a few of us here are definitely older, I hope I might tap into elder knowledge. I am looking for a discreet way to get generic sildenafil. I have a SO, so there can't be any record at all of this. No mail order, no nothing. I had a very accommodating urologist who was selling bottles of it right out of his office, not via a scrip. However, he joined a large bureaucratic hospital, so that gravy train is gone. IK there are veterinary uses for sildenafil, I wondered if this provides a means to get some of it without a conventional prescription. Or if someone has a friendly neighborhood herbalist I could go to. Strictly cash on the barrelhead, no names, and no questions asked.

I do have a guy in OC I have been getting such stuff from in the past, however, he gets it from India, and my sense it that it is less reliable than the real 'good' stuff that you can get from a proper medical professional. You really want to be able to rely on your pills in the sugar game.

I'll take answers here or via PM.[/QUOTE]Just do what I did. Go the an urgent care center, ask to see the doctor. Give them a fake address and your burned phone number for their file. They will not ask for an I'd. Tell the doc what you want and voila. Took me not even 5 minutes. Most urgent care have ED meds on site and sell them to you. Pay in cash and have fun.

[QUOTE=ChefSolo;6404271]Yesterday this girl I've been seeing asked for us to hang out. We have had really good chemistry and I know she's developing feelings for me just by the way her affection towards me has shifted. Prior to yesterday things have been strictly sexual, with me initiating all the meet ups. I've kept it that way to establish the boundaries between us and to not blur our lines and keep her expectations in check. I had a ton of free time though and so I took her out for drinks. After a few she really opened up about her feelings about me and how into me she was. I'm not the type to need or want the fluff for my ego but I could sense the genuineness in what she was saying. Her body language and everything was more in line with a gf rather than a sb. I intended to drop her off but she insisted I come back to her place. So I went and we went to town. She even asked me to sleep over and said "I don't want this to sound weird but I want you to make love to me this time. " My emotions were kind of all over the place because I didn't know where in her mind this was crossing into. After a few hours I had to call it a night. As I'm leaving she goes "oh uhh, do you have the you know?" I was taken back a bit. I didn't have a lot of cash on me so I just hooked her up with what I had and left. It sort of left me puzzled because nothing about the night felt like this was some sb / sd situation. I was mostly giving into her feelings and made the night about her. That's never been the case before. Question is, am I right to feel like maybe payment should not have come up last night? She's acting and saying things in line with a gf but I don't give my gf a lump sum of cash each time I see her. It's a confusing spot for me. Any help or insight in how to handle this would be appreciated. For clarity, I think this girl is awesome. We have great chemistry and I don't mind a fwb situation with her. She has a super high sex drive but I also can't keep up with paying each time just to meet her sexual demands. LOL I almost feel like she should be paying me with the way she's getting handled each time we meet.[/QUOTE]She loves that cash more than she loves you, bruh.

[QUOTE=JackMiles;6410428]She loves that cash more than she loves you, bruh.[/QUOTE]Yeah, something I have heard periodically on this site, if you really want to see what a girl thinks about you, propose that you stop the sugar and date 'vanilla'.

That will usually bring the issues into clarity. I mean, some of these girls are young and somewhat naive and haven't really contemplated deeply what they are up to. I mean, to some extent, we get to exploit that to bang some fine ass. SO I am not really opposed.

LOL.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6411132]Yeah, something I have heard periodically on this site, if you really want to see what a girl thinks about you, propose that you stop the sugar and date 'vanilla'.

That will usually bring the issues into clarity. I mean, some of these girls are young and somewhat naive and haven't really contemplated deeply what they are up to. I mean, to some extent, we get to exploit that to bang some fine ass. SO I am not really opposed.

LOL.[/QUOTE]Agreed. You would have to hang out without money being involved. As you said, propose to stop being the sd. Going out or doing it without $ what so over. Usually, it's rare and it's advised not to, but it does happen from time to time to have that type of relationship.

[QUOTE=JohnDoeTwo;6411261]Agreed. You would have to hang out without money being involved. As you said, propose to stop being the sd. Going out or doing it without $ what so over. Usually, it's rare and it's advised not to, but it does happen from time to time to have that type of relationship.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it depends on what you are doing. I saw a long-term SB until about July 2021. When we FCed, she got 300. But there were plenty of times we went for coffee, to a restaurant, to the dog park w / our pooches, and I definitely didn't provide any allowance. IK she was happy in and outside the bedroom w / what we were doing, and I didn't think twice to suggest something she wasn't getting $ for. Every now and then she is back in the area, we get together and cannot keep from rekindling the fire. We agree if she was here, we'd still be meeting up. That is an arrangement that has happened a couple or three times to me in the 6+ years I have been on the site. I might like to find that again, but you can't really seek it, any more than you can be sure you will find your soul mate on [URL]match.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=ShowMeHow23;6409360]Still in London for another 2 months, but have to say I've had waaaay better luck out here than I did in LA. Still have a few that I can fall back on when I get back, but the quality of girls has been huge difference. I suppose I'm paying for it, at $5 whereas back in LA I was seeing regulars at $4, but definitely not as GPS as it has been.

Suppose to see this one next week. She had me buy some lingerie for her, but it's mailed to my flat so if she doesn't show up, fuck it, return it anyways. If she ghosts me, at least I have 3 other chicks here, all petite and smoking.[/QUOTE]Do you use Seeking for your London search?

Okay, I am posting this because I am not sure if it is just me noticing this but lately SA in Los Angeles has been shit, and filled with a high amount of scammers and catfish. My photos are really good. I am younger looking (for my age), muscular and have game so its not for these reasons. But I get these girls who give me numbers and then you cannot get a hold of them after texting. My feeling is this site has tons of scammers looking for dudes to send them money and when you ask to speak to them, video call, they bounce. Or, you call them and they never can answer a call nor reach back out to you.

It was really good last year (2nd half) but now I have trouble getting better girls who are legit. Anyone else notice this?

[QUOTE=StudBucket;6411482]Okay, I am posting this because I am not sure if it is just me noticing this but lately SA in Los Angeles has been shit, and filled with a high amount of scammers and catfish. My photos are really good. I am younger looking (for my age), muscular and have game so its not for these reasons. But I get these girls who give me numbers and then you cannot get a hold of them after texting. My feeling is this site has tons of scammers looking for dudes to send them money and when you ask to speak to them, video call, they bounce. Or, you call them and they never can answer a call nor reach back out to you.

It was really good last year (2nd half) but now I have trouble getting better girls who are legit. Anyone else notice this?[/QUOTE]SA, Tinder, Bumble all have people responding to our messages, giving local numbers and texting us to keep us paying membership fee.

I am still getting a couple new girls per week from SA.

[QUOTE=JohnDoeTwo;6411261]Agreed. You would have to hang out without money being involved. As you said, propose to stop being the sd. Going out or doing it without $ what so over. Usually, it's rare and it's advised not to, but it does happen from time to time to have that type of relationship.[/QUOTE]Recently, HG posted about there not being any such thing as free pussy. Even someone you are dating, it has a cost.

Supposedly, Charlie Sheen used to say about the escorts he got from Heidi Fleiss, he didn't pay them to come over, he paid them to leave after he banged them.

Someone who has a wife / SO who is trying to get a SB converted to a vanilla date is playing w / fire. There is always an expectation on the part of a girl, of what she is going to get out of a guy who is banging her. You'd better be 100% aware of the cost and be prepared to pay it.

Finally, those of you who have or had a wife know this well. It is some of the most expensive pussy you're ever going to have.

[QUOTE=WowU812;6411552]SA, Tinder, Bumble all have people responding to our messages, giving local numbers and texting us to keep us paying membership fee.

I am still getting a couple new girls per week from SA.[/QUOTE]Ah, okay, this makes sense. So you just have to weed through tons of these fake profiles, bots, catfish, paid people to pretend to seem real.

[QUOTE=WowU812;6411552]SA, Tinder, Bumble all have people responding to our messages, giving local numbers and texting us to keep us paying membership fee.

I am still getting a couple new girls per week from SA.[/QUOTE]I know nothing about those other apps, but I have never ever had any suspicion that was true on SA. I definitely can tell at times I have had guys impersonating girls. Once I enter the #s into my phone, SnapChat looks them up, and I can see avatars that are males.

And it definitely isn't effective at getting me to pay any membership fees. I get SA a month at a time, I get so many POTs I can't follow up on all of them, and then I get off for a few months while I chase them all down.

I am sure you have zero facts supporting that assertion, regarding SA at least.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6411611]I know nothing about those other apps, but I have never ever had any suspicion that was true on SA. I definitely can tell at times I have had guys impersonating girls. Once I enter the #s into my phone, SnapChat looks them up, and I can see avatars that are males.

And it definitely isn't effective at getting me to pay any membership fees. I get SA a month at a time, I get so many POTs I can't follow up on all of them, and then I get off for a few months while I chase them all down.

I am sure you have zero facts supporting that assertion, regarding SA at least.[/QUOTE]I am going to have to respectfully disagree with this comment. Bots and scammers have been around, and it was well publicized when Ashley Madison had the spotlight on them. They admitted to using employees of the company to spam / send fake messages to users in order to appear they had more members and getting us to renew. Tinder does the same thing. Many scammers use bots / programs in hopes of getting you to send them money and they are in another country at times. There are countless articles online with proofs and examples of this. Sometimes it is done by scammers. Sometimes it is done for the mere fun of catfishing people, and other times it is secretly done by the sites (Tinder, SA, Bumble. , Ashley Madison) in order to get you to keep interested. Keep in mind there is very little regulation in this industry.
In my personal experience, the bot is sometimes obvious as grammar will be bad, the message they will send will not even make sense or stay on topic with the conversation, and its just too good to be true. Lately, I am getting many fake messages, with no ability to follow up with gals on the site (SA). But, yes there are still many real profiles on the site that you can get Far Far Away.

See proof below:

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[URL]https://www.michigandaily.com/statement/when-love-is-an-automated-swipe/[/URL]

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But you fellow degenerates that may have some experience or wisdom.

But I met a model and we hit it off. This girl is wayyyyy out of my league and I'm assuming also has a much higher income than me. Thought she was a scammer at first because most model pics that hot are. Shit I was talking to a fake Rachel Bush for a period of time before I found out who Rachel Bush was. Thankfully I followed my rule of cash in person only for that one. Anyways somehow we clicked through messaging, and when I asked what she was expecting for a ppm / allowance she said it was up to me as I should know what was too much or little. Was kinda confused as her profile would indicate otherwise with signs of gps and expectations of a substantial amount. Imagined her getting 1 k+ offers easy just through DMs with offers to fly her out. Scheduled a date, called her an Uber, and we spent hours just talkin with also a couple rounds in between. When she left she called her own Uber and I gave her 5 (most I ever done for a sb but figured why not if I'm already dishing out close to that much for a kgirl for one hr). If she asked for 1 k I prob would have done it just for the experience with an insta model. We were already talking about dating by the end. 2nd time I covered the Ubers both ways and expressed that I wish we never met under the circumstance because of the dynamics now in play. She then said that this would be the last time she'd accept payment and future meets wouldn't require anything so I gave her 6. One thing that's kinda a red flag is how fast / hard she's fallen for me supposedly, already telling me she loves me and such, even telling me to move in with her to her new place. She is a recent divorcee however so I'm just wondering how much that is affecting her. I am by no means ballin, particularly handsome, or hung. She obvs been with and / or have access to dudes who'd destroy me in all three categories. For perspective on tinder / hinge / bumble I prob get like one match every other week AT BEST. And 80% of the time they're fat af. The other 20 they're 6's at best. And nothing ever went anywhere. She would get hundreds of matches a week easy.

I see three potential scenarios:

1) I'm just a pity fuck for a rebound or a get back and just wants someone who'd appreciate getting with someone of her status.

2) she really is falling in love with me and money isn't really a concern for her.

3) she's a psycho and playing some sort of long game.

What do you guys make of it? Any suggestions / advice how to navigate this? I figured fuck it I'll take this ride and see where it goes for now. ESP with no more ppm / allowance requirements? If it wasn't for the circumstances of SA I'd be trying to wife her up due to her caliber. Because of that tho I can also see myself getting insecure at times if I fall for her because I know that I can never compete with previous guys. Then again if a nobody got with scarlet Johansson should he even care about her experiences / past? Because despite what she can get, or has around her, she got with him so don't that make him the winner then?

[QUOTE=AMonger1;6413384]But you fellow degenerates that may have some experience or wisdom.

But I met a model and we hit it off. This girl is wayyyyy out of my league and I'm assuming also has a much higher income than me. Thought she was a scammer at first because most model pics that hot are. Shit I was talking to a fake Rachel Bush for a period of time before I found out who Rachel Bush was. Thankfully I followed my rule of cash in person only for that one. Anyways somehow we clicked through messaging, and when I asked what she was expecting for a ppm / allowance she said it was up to me as I should know what was too much or little. Was kinda confused as her profile would indicate otherwise with signs of gps and expectations of a substantial amount. Imagined her getting 1 k+ offers easy just through DMs with offers to fly her out. Scheduled a date, called her an Uber, and we spent hours just talkin with also a couple rounds in between. When she left she called her own Uber and I gave her 5 (most I ever done for a sb but figured why not if I'm already dishing out close to that much for a kgirl for one hr). If she asked for 1 k I prob would have done it just for the experience with an insta model. We were already talking about dating by the end. 2nd time I covered the Ubers both ways and expressed that I wish we never met under the circumstance because of the dynamics now in play. She then said that this would be the last time she'd accept payment and future meets wouldn't require anything so I gave her 6. One thing that's kinda a red flag is how fast / hard she's fallen for me supposedly, already telling me she loves me and such, even telling me to move in with her to her new place. She is a recent divorcee however so I'm just wondering how much that is affecting her. I am by no means ballin, particularly handsome, or hung. She obvs been with and / or have access to dudes who'd destroy me in all three categories. For perspective on tinder / hinge / bumble I prob get like one match every other week AT BEST. And 80% of the time they're fat af. The other 20 they're 6's at best. And nothing ever went anywhere. She would get hundreds of matches a week easy.

I see three potential scenarios:

1) I'm just a pity fuck for a rebound or a get back and just wants someone who'd appreciate getting with someone of her status.

2) she really is falling in love with me and money isn't really a concern for her.

3) she's a psycho and playing some sort of long game.

What do you guys make of it? Any suggestions / advice how to navigate this? I figured fuck it I'll take this ride and see where it goes for now. ESP with no more ppm / allowance requirements? If it wasn't for the circumstances of SA I'd be trying to wife her up due to her caliber. Because of that tho I can also see myself getting insecure at times if I fall for her because I know that I can never compete with previous guys. Then again if a nobody got with scarlet Johansson should he even care about her experiences / past? Because despite what she can get, or has around her, she got with him so don't that make him the winner then?[/QUOTE]I actually had one that was similar. Not a sb, but an escort. Any meeting that I had with her was free of charge. She would tell me that she wanted me to go home with her and that I could stay as long as I want. We would have sex multiple times. She loved the sex. She would tell me that it was a double edge sword because she would be sore afterward but still have to work, but she liked me so it was a turn-on for her. She would text me, wishing I was there with her. She would tell me about the business. Tell me about other clients and girls. Talk to me about personal stuff. Ask me if we could meet up and hang out, nonsexual related but eventually it leads to sex. She wasn't like a young hot model, but she was an older lady who was still hot. She had a hot body.

It happens. The reason why I didn't go for it and accept her offer was I knew it wouldn't work out. Our personalities didn't mesh well imo and there was lots of drama on her side. And she was a little crazy, but great in bed LOL. She thought we clicked so well that she wanted to be with me or see me as much as she could. I felt that if she does with me, she does it with everyone that she likes.

In your case, if you like her go ahead and test the waters. Especially if she likes you back and since you guys clicked. I personally wouldn't care if my SO was a worker or currently is, but normally I wouldn't go for it because different of reasons. I know a lot of dudes do care. I've been a few girls who told me that some of their clients, who were rich, wanted to take them for themselves and take them out of the biz.

If she's seeing you for free, then take advantage. I would suggest keeping some boundaries within yourself at least until you get to know her more. I wouldn't fall for her looks, even though that's easier said than done. I go for the personality. There are some girls who do ask to see you for free, act like you are special or they really like you, and then create a sad story and then ask you for some money. There are some girls who I met who showed me that they do that to some dudes. It's part of the game. I don't judge, so I respect the hustle. Just make sure that isn't you. If she is legit and doesn't ask you for money at all, then you are good.

Try not to get insecure about previous guys if you do get into a relationship. It's because she choose you, you know? Some girls who are drop-dead glorious get with guys who don't look hot or up to their standards. You either have to fit the girl type, have money, or have enough charm that would get her. I've seen hot girls and handsome guys who get with someone who doesn't nearly look as attractive as they are. It happens.

Anyway, take advantage. Trend carefully, but don't pass this up. Have fun. Don't fall for the looks because that's temporary and deceiving, fall for the personality and chemistry. Since you guys clicked, ride with it and see where it goes. If she asks for money or create a sad story to get money from you, jump out of the ship. If you happen to get into a relationship with this woman, good luck. Happy for you my guy. If not, at least you had a good time.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;6413292]I am going to have to respectfully disagree with this comment. Bots and scammers have been around, and it was well publicized when Ashley Madison had the spotlight on them. They admitted to using employees of the company to spam / send fake messages to users in order to appear they had more members and getting us to renew. Tinder does the same thing. Many scammers use bots / programs in hopes of getting you to send them money and they are in another country at times. There are countless articles online with proofs and examples of this. Sometimes it is done by scammers. Sometimes it is done for the mere fun of catfishing people, and other times it is secretly done by the sites (Tinder, SA, Bumble. , Ashley Madison) in order to get you to keep interested. Keep in mind there is very little regulation in this industry.
In my personal experience, the bot is sometimes obvious as grammar will be bad, the message they will send will not even make sense or stay on topic with the conversation, and its just too good to be true. Lately, I am getting many fake messages, with no ability to follow up with gals on the site (SA). But, yes there are still many real profiles on the site that you can get Far Far Away.[/QUOTE]There are clearly fake profiles on [URL]Seeking.com[/URL]. We've all run across them. Someone who is trying to get you to buy pix or videos, or really, anything that involves you sending $ to them, without actually meeting up. There are people all over the world who are motivated to do this, and think SA is good fishing ground because 1) the site itself has few ways to be certain who is real or not, because we don't want to be asked to prove *we* are real, and 2) people who get scammed will be embarrassed to report it to someone who could do something, because of the character of the site. There are definitely ways we can fight back against them, or just perceive what they are before hand.

My main point is that I do not believe it is the site itself that is doing this. First of all, I have never ever been contacted by a fake profile. This might be because I keep my profile hidden from search. Which I recommend everyone do, especially anyone who wants to keep on the down low. I see a new profile, it is appealing in some ways but it also raises red flags. If I favorite it or message it, I may find out shortly it is fake and then block it. I also note that each and every time I deactivate my profile, which I do whenever I am without a paid membership, I am asked to give a reason. I have started checking 'too many fake profiles' every time. So, it does not make sense to me that the site is putting up fake profiles and then asking users if this is pissing us off.

I have no idea how you would get facts that would tell you that the seeking site itself is setting up fake profiles to tease users into keeping their membership going. But as I said, if you have them, bring it on. In the absence of such facts, the Occam's Razor argument is that the fake profiles are from guys in an internet cafe in Bulgaria or Timbuktu. If they can get one guy a day to send them $10 in 'gas money' to go to a M&G, they win. Without facts, all you have is a conspiracy theory.