Streetwalker Reports

Yes, I've searched the threads and I have a handle on the basics. My question goes beyond the cardate or quickie.

If I'm looking to take the girl away from the ave for a few hours (but not an overnight), what should I be looking at spending? Same as the rates for activity, or does the scale change because of more time away from the ave? I've got a place where I can take a girl to party that has a pool and a hot tub. It's NOT my house. I'm not worried about her stealing anything that isn't bolted down (she's not going to stick a lawn chair in her bag). If she steals a roll of toilet paper out of the bathroom, I can live with it. But there's NOTHING of value for her take. And she's not going to do any damage to the concrete.

What should I be looking to spend for a few hours away from the ave (figure 35 minute drive time each way and a couple hours of play time)?

[QUOTE=LBerkey;3970603]Yes, I've searched the threads and I have a handle on the basics. My question goes beyond the cardate or quickie.

If I'm looking to take the girl away from the ave for a few hours (but not an overnight), what should I be looking at spending? Same as the rates for activity, or does the scale change because of more time away from the ave? I've got a place where I can take a girl to party that has a pool and a hot tub. It's NOT my house. I'm not worried about her stealing anything that isn't bolted down (she's not going to stick a lawn chair in her bag). If she steals a roll of toilet paper out of the bathroom, I can live with it. But there's NOTHING of value for her take. And she's not going to do any damage to the concrete.

What should I be looking to spend for a few hours away from the ave (figure 35 minute drive time each way and a couple hours of play time)?[/QUOTE]Not recommended unless you have a rapport with someone first. I learned this the hard way. (most) Girls away from the ave have little interest in hot tubs / pools. Heck some will even pass on a hot shower. You are setting yourself up for a disappointment. 75% chance she will be rushing the shit out of you to get her back to the ave. Now, once you have a rapport, and know a girl, and she knows & trusts you, and you know that she can survive 3-4 hours away from the ave without passing out / becoming sick, then yes, it can work. 80-140 should do it, depending on quality. Oh, also, please remember that almost all, even the ones you know, will most likely want to get party favors in advance. 2 problems with this - 1 she will ask for in advance to buy, and once you give it to her, she will probably disappear. 2 you will be driving with the favors in your car for a distance, not a good idea.

[QUOTE=LBerkey;3970603]Yes, I've searched the threads and I have a handle on the basics. My question goes beyond the cardate or quickie.

If I'm looking to take the girl away from the ave for a few hours (but not an overnight), what should I be looking at spending? Same as the rates for activity, or does the scale change because of more time away from the ave? I've got a place where I can take a girl to party that has a pool and a hot tub. It's NOT my house. I'm not worried about her stealing anything that isn't bolted down (she's not going to stick a lawn chair in her bag). If she steals a roll of toilet paper out of the bathroom, I can live with it. But there's NOTHING of value for her take. And she's not going to do any damage to the concrete.

What should I be looking to spend for a few hours away from the ave (figure 35 minute drive time each way and a couple hours of play time)?[/QUOTE]Yeah some girls but I'd easily say 200 $ it's over an hour in drive time there and back and if wasn't at least 200 I'd def be nagging to get back a few hours play and an hour drive time.

[QUOTE=LBerkey;3970603]Yes, I've searched the threads and I have a handle on the basics. My question goes beyond the cardate or quickie.

If I'm looking to take the girl away from the ave for a few hours (but not an overnight), what should I be looking at spending? Same as the rates for activity, or does the scale change because of more time away from the ave? I've got a place where I can take a girl to party that has a pool and a hot tub. It's NOT my house. I'm not worried about her stealing anything that isn't bolted down (she's not going to stick a lawn chair in her bag). If she steals a roll of toilet paper out of the bathroom, I can live with it. But there's NOTHING of value for her take. And she's not going to do any damage to the concrete.

What should I be looking to spend for a few hours away from the ave (figure 35 minute drive time each way and a couple hours of play time)?[/QUOTE]There are girls that fit the bill, but they are one in a hundred. As already noted, most have one idea of a good time and it is not a pool or hot tub.

[QUOTE=Lance547;3951657]Somethings not adding up. If you're an x H user who frequented the Allegheny and and Philly area then you should have no problems finding what you're currently looking for.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to respond this way but I agree w the other user you buying that much dope you should know a little so. Ethi g about the chicks, red flags went up for me reading this post too sound like it was worded like a cop and I've been locked up undercover prostitution before so I know LOL hate to accuse anyone tho.

[QUOTE=Farouk;3971042]There are girls that fit the bill, but they are one in a hundred. As already noted, most have one idea of a good time and it is not a pool or hot tub.[/QUOTE]1) You have to find an attractive female which is almost unheard of (under El).

2) She may need many hours of meds in advance; meaning you must sit and wait while she does the shopping.

3) Meds will kick in and she will want nothing to do with finishing the deed or servicing your "contract". Expect nap time.

4) In the middle of the so say "fun" she will have to call the delivery service with your cell phone and you will foot the bill. You will shell out the funds as you already invested so much time and your expectations are even higher at this point.

5) The sun will shine and again more stops to the med corner are needed to extract her from your car. You will leave empty handed and frustrated along with a chunk of your wallet missing.

[QUOTE=LBerkey;3970603]Yes, I've searched the threads and I have a handle on the basics. My question goes beyond the cardate or quickie.

If I'm looking to take the girl away from the ave for a few hours (but not an overnight), what should I be looking at spending? Same as the rates for activity, or does the scale change because of more time away from the ave? I've got a place where I can take a girl to party that has a pool and a hot tub. It's NOT my house. I'm not worried about her stealing anything that isn't bolted down (she's not going to stick a lawn chair in her bag). If she steals a roll of toilet paper out of the bathroom, I can live with it. But there's NOTHING of value for her take. And she's not going to do any damage to the concrete.

What should I be looking to spend for a few hours away from the ave (figure 35 minute drive time each way and a couple hours of play time)?[/QUOTE]In my opinion, if you're looking for that type of arrangement, I would contract out an escort for an incall or outcall from off the internet. It's also just easier and less hassle.

As others have said, picking up a girl off K ave and taking her back to a location isn't really advisable. Girls walking K ave are at the bottom of this industry and what I have noticed is that most of the street walkers are heavy drug users who have hit rock bottom, their hygiene isn't all that great to very poor, and it's real hard to find a decent looking spinner who looks healthy and is in her right state of mind.

Also, as others have said, you would think taking a K ave girl back to a place where she can get a nice hot shower she would use it and be grateful but I have seen with my own eyes how these girls who are deep into their H addiction totally skip the basic routine daily hygiene practices that we do on a daily basis. This is why many of these girls have no teeth or black teeth only in their mid 20's. Is this the type of woman you want to do full service with? And it's true, many of these girls need a fix every few hours so if they go far away from you they will need to load up before they go and once they use at your location they can no longer function or communicate for hours. Is this the type of situation you want on your hands? A comatose woman who when she wakes up could cry rape or possibly OD on your property?

I know others might not agree with me but K ave girls with the high risk of needle sharing drug use are for car date BJ action only and for full service and longer sessions one should look for an online escort working out of a private residence or motel. It's just two different worlds that you shouldn't try to mix meaning you bringing one into another.

A few nights ago, I was at Huntington, right in front of Covenant House at about 7:00 PM. The only other person on the sidewalk was a slender, fairly young man walking a terrier. I could not see him well in the twilight. He was dressed in a tee shirt, shorts and a baseball cap. The dog was sniffing a post; the leash was stretched across the sidewalk, so that I had to wait to be able to pass. The man asked me what I was doing. I said it was none of his business, and asked him if he was a police officer. He pointed to the PPD insignia on his baseball cap, and said he was an off duty officer. I asked for his badge number, and he said a four-digit number ending in 88. As I walked to my car, he followed me, saying he would photograph my license plate, and officers would be on the lookout for me from now on. He came on more like an LE wannabe than the genuine article. I typically go for years on end without LE taking any notice of me. I post this, asking if anyone else has run into him, and for the benefit of police brass who undoubtedly follow this board.

[QUOTE=Kenbenz;3974030]A few nights ago, I was at Huntington, right in front of Covenant House at about 7:00 PM. The only other person on the sidewalk was a slender, fairly young man walking a terrier. I could not see him well in the twilight. He was dressed in a tee shirt, shorts and a baseball cap. The dog was sniffing a post; the leash was stretched across the sidewalk, so that I had to wait to be able to pass. The man asked me what I was doing. I said it was none of his business, and asked him if he was a police officer. He pointed to the PPD insignia on his baseball cap, and said he was an off duty officer. I asked for his badge number, and he said a four-digit number ending in 88. As I walked to my car, he followed me, saying he would photograph my license plate, and officers would be on the lookout for me from now on. He came on more like an LE wannabe than the genuine article. I typically go for years on end without LE taking any notice of me. I post this, asking if anyone else has run into him, and for the benefit of police brass who undoubtedly follow this board.[/QUOTE]In the area you mention I would bet he's a resident and part of the Snoop and Snitch Patrol. These are over zealous ass kissers and dick suckers that want to make you believe they are someone. You know the type. They stand behind curtains looking out watching the girls while stroking their dick. Kensington is full of people that want to push you around. My thoughts are the only reason he would imply he's an off duty cop would be to impress you for what that's worth. Cops just do not do that without some cause to tell us they are police. You don't walk down the street with your dog telling people you don't know you are an electrician or a car salesman do you? I didn't think so.

Here's another thought. Why would he approach you and leave the people directly across the street selling drugs and needles alone? Makes little to no sense.

You responded correctly. I would have told him to come back when he's on duty and we can talk all he wants. LEO most often will watch to see what you are doing before approaching you knowing they have nothing on you. Let them take all the photos they want. If there's a next time and you really want to blow his mind, take out your phone and snap his photo. Tell him you are taking it to the district and filing a complaint for harassment. Then they will have his photo. If he's legit nothing ventured nothing lost. If he's not then LEO will have a field day with his ass. They love cop impersonators.

He's probably the same guy driving around telling the girls he's a cop and if they don't suck his dick he's going to lock them up.

Don't be intimidated by someone just because they wear a hat. He could have got that hat anywhere. More often than not it's better to totally ignore an asshole like that. Just keep walking. Cross the street. Act like you don't hear him. Responding opens the door to confrontation. Remember, if you don't wish a confrontation ignoring the person is usually the best option. Chances are he will move on to a less challenging person. Someone he can push around. Then he runs home to jerk off. Don't give them the satisfaction of a response. That's exactly what they want to stroke their ego. These are the same boneheads that categorize everyone in the area to be hookers, Johns, or addicts. That is except themselves of course. Don't let them ruffle your feathers.

As an American citizen you have as much right to be there as he does or any one else there. That's a huge problem. Some people think they have more rights than the rest of us. They try to step on our rights.

Most people walking dogs are not going to confront people they don't know without cause. They may have their own thoughts about you and what you may or may not be doing but most will not confront you. Simply not a normal thing to do. Those that have any concerns will head for the phone at home and voice them to dispatch.

Consider this for a moment. If you walked twenty blocks in any direction, even in the bad lands, that would probably be the only asshole to confront you claiming to be an off duty cop. Agreed? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3974147]In the area you mention I would bet he's a resident and part of the Snoop and Snitch Patrol. These are over zealous ass kissers and dick suckers that want to make you believe they are someone. You know the type. They stand behind curtains looking out watching the girls while stroking their dick. Kensington is full of people that want to push you around. My thoughts are the only reason he would imply he's an off duty cop would be to impress you for what that's worth. Cops just do not do that without some cause to tell us they are police. You don't walk down the street with your dog telling people you don't know you are an electrician or a car salesman do you? I didn't think so.

Here's another thought. Why would he approach you and leave the people directly across the street selling drugs and needles alone? Makes little to no sense.

You responded correctly. I would have told him to come back when he's on duty and we can talk all he wants. LEO most often will watch to see what you are doing before approaching you knowing they have nothing on you. Let them take all the photos they want. If there's a next time and you really want to blow his mind, take out your phone and snap his photo. Tell him you are taking it to the district and filing a complaint for harassment. Then they will have his photo. If he's legit nothing ventured nothing lost. If he's not then LEO will have a field day with his ass. They love cop impersonators.

He's probably the same guy driving around telling the girls he's a cop and if they don't suck his dick he's going to lock them up.

Don't be intimidated by someone just because they wear a hat. He could have got that hat anywhere. More often than not it's better to totally ignore an asshole like that. Just keep walking. Cross the street. Act like you don't hear him. Responding opens the door to confrontation. Remember, if you don't wish a confrontation ignoring the person is usually the best option. Chances are he will move on to a less challenging person. Someone he can push around. Then he runs home to jerk off. Don't give them the satisfaction of a response. That's exactly what they want to stroke their ego. These are the same boneheads that categorize everyone in the area to be hookers, Johns, or addicts. That is except themselves of course. Don't let them ruffle your feathers.

As an American citizen you have as much right to be there as he does or any one else there. That's a huge problem. Some people think they have more rights than the rest of us. They try to step on our rights.

Most people walking dogs are not going to confront people they don't know without cause. They may have their own thoughts about you and what you may or may not be doing but most will not confront you. Simply not a normal thing to do. Those that have any concerns will head for the phone at home and voice them to dispatch.

Consider this for a moment. If you walked twenty blocks in any direction, even in the bad lands, that would probably be the only asshole to confront you claiming to be an off duty cop. Agreed? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]I have to admit, I wouldn't want sex workers soliciting work and servicing clients in my neighborhood let alone on my block. I'm pro sex work and I can understand why residents would be upset for these type of activities to be taking place outside their own front door.

It's such a shame that sex work is criminalized and sex workers are forced to solicit in the streets. Every city should have a red light industrial area for these type of activities then there wouldn't be much of a problem anywhere else.

That said, LE knows where sex work takes place regardless if it's out of a hotel, massage parlor, or on the street and surprisingly depending on the agency they will leave everyone alone so as long as they don't get any complaints from residents and the location stays quiet and low key.

[QUOTE=Kenbenz;3974030]A few nights ago, I was at Huntington, right in front of Covenant House at about 7:00 PM. The only other person on the sidewalk was a slender, fairly young man walking a terrier. I could not see him well in the twilight. He was dressed in a tee shirt, shorts and a baseball cap. The dog was sniffing a post; the leash was stretched across the sidewalk, so that I had to wait to be able to pass. The man asked me what I was doing. I said it was none of his business, and asked him if he was a police officer. He pointed to the PPD insignia on his baseball cap, and said he was an off duty officer. I asked for his badge number, and he said a four-digit number ending in 88. As I walked to my car, he followed me, saying he would photograph my license plate, and officers would be on the lookout for me from now on. He came on more like an LE wannabe than the genuine article. I typically go for years on end without LE taking any notice of me. I post this, asking if anyone else has run into him, and for the benefit of police brass who undoubtedly follow this board.[/QUOTE]There is a 99% chance this guy was nothing other than some want to bee as Gator has mentioned. Major reason being safety issues. That is and always will be a real officers first priority. Think about it your off duty and some guy is simply walking down the street and you are going to look for trouble. If he really thought you were an issue he would have called it in for on duty patrol to take care of it. Prostitution and Johns are low priority as it is let alone when you are off duty walking your dog. As tempting as it is to confront a douche bag like this just laugh it off and keep walking.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3974147]He's probably the same guy driving around telling the girls he's a cop and if they don't suck his dick he's going to lock them up.

Don't be intimidated by someone just because they wear a hat. He could have got that hat anywhere. More often than not it's better to totally ignore an asshole like that. Just keep walking. Cross the street. Act like you don't hear him.... I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Agreed! The pic is a cap like he was wearing. I find out that these are readily available, but apparently not a big seller like the NYPD caps are.

I can't believe no one has seen Sarah Smiles.

It's been a few months and since she has me blocked on FB and messenger I haven't seen Sarah.

I know she was in Camden but I was also sure she was hopping across the river to K&A.

Let her know that RecycleMikel6 is looking. At least let me know that everything is good.

-RM.

[QUOTE=RecycleMikel6;3977168]I can't believe no one has seen Sarah Smiles.

It's been a few months and since she has me blocked on FB and messenger I haven't seen Sarah.

I know she was in Camden but I was also sure she was hopping across the river to K&A.

Let her know that RecycleMikel6 is looking. At least let me know that everything is good.

-RM.[/QUOTE]She last updated her FB on Oct 1st, so she must still be OK.

[QUOTE=Kenbenz;3975616]Agreed! The pic is a cap like he was wearing. I find out that these are readily available, but apparently not a big seller like the NYPD caps are.[/QUOTE]Something I have noticed and most likely others have also.

In the recent months around the Huntingdon, Jasper, Sargeant, Oakdale, Albert area there has been an increased police presence. Maybe 4 - 6 months. As one person a few months back mentioned it's likely the increased number of new and newer homes being built.

What I have noticed for that area is it's mostly undercover that tend to hide in the EL stations and up on the platform looking down observing what's going on, if anything. Then the cruisers are not far away. The actual front line recently has been pedal pushers, bike cops.

I don't recall any foot beat units. They could be there as nothing is beyond theory. Most times any foot patrols have been the Tranny Cops from SEPTA. Real cop wannabes. Those that couldn't make it on a real police force so they applied to SEPTA. More often than not they confine themselves to the south bound platform apron area.

Most foot patrols can be found from Somerset to Venango. Don't see them much anywhere else. With heavy concentration around the 7 - 11 when the fresh coffee and donuts come out. It would be a conundrum to see them walking alone in that hood. Badge or not the resident's are not at all particular who they shoot or beat up. They tend to be in pairs or groups of 5 - 10 - or more.

Lately there has been an increased presence right at K and A. I believe that's due to the influx of homeless and prostitution activity that has taken over the corners there along with the dealers. That area is convenient walking distance to the F St. Shopping area. Along with the Clearfield district and also the Jasper and Allegheny locations, all the way to Tioga.

Another heavy concentration of foot patrols along with horses is Needle Park and across the street at Quick Stop.

The drug activity right there at Custer, Weymouth, Lippincott, Clementine just above Clearfield has given need to a stronger presence.

Even in the mentioned areas the foot patrols mostly keep to themselves. They rarely confront anybody without reason. I have watched them stroll from Needle Park up to K and A and not bother anyone.

So I could be wrong, but it's my take given the dangerous environment along the strip, it seems unlikely any cop will confront an individual without any back up. Especially an off duty cop that is already home with their family. Case in point is whenever we see something as minor as a traffic stop, within seconds there are 2-3 - 4 cruisers evaluating the situation.

As others have pointed out here the guy that was walking the dog wanted you to think he is more important than he actually is. Situations such as this should give those here on the board some insight as to the nut cases on the strip. A classic reason I always advise not to stroll around out there. Anyone can and will approach us. The guy you posted about doesn't know you from a can of paint. Yet he still confronted you under the guise of neighborhood safety. Safety first. Guy probably watches a lot of McGyver rerun episodes. I've been kicking around thoughts of how he would have reacted had you reversed the confrontation and made him to be the bad guy. He would have stuck his tail between his legs and left I'll bet. If he didn't and called for back up, You could have just said you heard the place across the street has great cheese steaks. That you are going there to try one. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.