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First things first
[QUOTE=ChefSolo;6404271]Yesterday this girl I've been seeing asked for us to hang out. We have had really good chemistry and I know she's developing feelings for me just by the way her affection towards me has shifted. Prior to yesterday things have been strictly sexual, with me initiating all the meet ups. I've kept it that way to establish the boundaries between us and to not blur our lines and keep her expectations in check. I had a ton of free time though and so I took her out for drinks. After a few she really opened up about her feelings about me and how into me she was. I'm not the type to need or want the fluff for my ego but I could sense the genuineness in what she was saying. Her body language and everything was more in line with a gf rather than a sb. I intended to drop her off but she insisted I come back to her place. So I went and we went to town. She even asked me to sleep over and said "I don't want this to sound weird but I want you to make love to me this time. " My emotions were kind of all over the place because I didn't know where in her mind this was crossing into. After a few hours I had to call it a night. As I'm leaving she goes "oh uhh, do you have the you know?" I was taken back a bit. I didn't have a lot of cash on me so I just hooked her up with what I had and left. It sort of left me puzzled because nothing about the night felt like this was some sb / sd situation. I was mostly giving into her feelings and made the night about her. That's never been the case before. Question is, am I right to feel like maybe payment should not have come up last night? She's acting and saying things in line with a gf but I don't give my gf a lump sum of cash each time I see her. It's a confusing spot for me. Any help or insight in how to handle this would be appreciated. For clarity, I think this girl is awesome. We have great chemistry and I don't mind a fwb situation with her. She has a super high sex drive but I also can't keep up with paying each time just to meet her sexual demands. LOL I almost feel like she should be paying me with the way she's getting handled each time we meet.[/QUOTE]First, send me the link to her profile.
Second, if you are interested in not paying, then bring it up and have that discussion; tell her that her words and actions suggest that this is going in a more emotional direction and go from there. IMO the payment maintains the line between SB and GF or FWB. So she is likely in the right in this situation.
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You got played
[QUOTE=ChefSolo;6404271]Yesterday this girl I've been seeing asked for us to hang out. We have had really good chemistry and I know she's developing feelings for me just by the way her affection towards me has shifted. Prior to yesterday things have been strictly sexual, with me initiating all the meet ups. I've kept it that way to establish the boundaries between us and to not blur our lines and keep her expectations in check. I had a ton of free time though and so I took her out for drinks. After a few she really opened up about her feelings about me and how into me she was. I'm not the type to need or want the fluff for my ego but I could sense the genuineness in what she was saying. Her body language and everything was more in line with a gf rather than a sb. I intended to drop her off but she insisted I come back to her place. So I went and we went to town. She even asked me to sleep over and said "I don't want this to sound weird but I want you to make love to me this time. " My emotions were kind of all over the place because I didn't know where in her mind this was crossing into. After a few hours I had to call it a night. As I'm leaving she goes "oh uhh, do you have the you know?" I was taken back a bit. I didn't have a lot of cash on me so I just hooked her up with what I had and left. It sort of left me puzzled because nothing about the night felt like this was some sb / sd situation. I was mostly giving into her feelings and made the night about her. That's never been the case before. Question is, am I right to feel like maybe payment should not have come up last night? She's acting and saying things in line with a gf but I don't give my gf a lump sum of cash each time I see her. It's a confusing spot for me. Any help or insight in how to handle this would be appreciated. For clarity, I think this girl is awesome. We have great chemistry and I don't mind a fwb situation with her. She has a super high sex drive but I also can't keep up with paying each time just to meet her sexual demands. LOL I almost feel like she should be paying me with the way she's getting handled each time we meet.[/QUOTE]Sounds like she was digging in her hooks not switching to a gf. If she's a great as you say, keep it to SB and see her when the budget allows.
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Profile
[QUOTE=ChefSolo;6404271]Yesterday this girl I've been seeing asked for us to hang out. We have had really good chemistry and I know she's developing feelings for me just by the way her affection towards me has shifted. Prior to yesterday things have been strictly sexual, with me initiating all the meet ups. I've kept it that way to establish the boundaries between us and to not blur our lines and keep her expectations in check. I had a ton of free time though and so I took her out for drinks. After a few she really opened up about her feelings about me and how into me she was. I'm not the type to need or want the fluff for my ego but I could sense the genuineness in what she was saying. Her body language and everything was more in line with a gf rather than a sb. I intended to drop her off but she insisted I come back to her place. So I went and we went to town. She even asked me to sleep over and said "I don't want this to sound weird but I want you to make love to me this time. " My emotions were kind of all over the place because I didn't know where in her mind this was crossing into. After a few hours I had to call it a night. As I'm leaving she goes "oh uhh, do you have the you know?" I was taken back a bit. I didn't have a lot of cash on me so I just hooked her up with what I had and left. It sort of left me puzzled because nothing about the night felt like this was some sb / sd situation. I was mostly giving into her feelings and made the night about her. That's never been the case before. Question is, am I right to feel like maybe payment should not have come up last night? She's acting and saying things in line with a gf but I don't give my gf a lump sum of cash each time I see her. It's a confusing spot for me. Any help or insight in how to handle this would be appreciated. For clarity, I think this girl is awesome. We have great chemistry and I don't mind a fwb situation with her. She has a super high sex drive but I also can't keep up with paying each time just to meet her sexual demands. LOL I almost feel like she should be paying me with the way she's getting handled each time we meet.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link to her profile or send it to me through DM?
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[QUOTE=ChefSolo;6404271]Question is, am I right to feel like maybe payment should not have come up last night? She's acting and saying things in line with a gf but I don't give my gf a lump sum of cash each time I see her. It's a confusing spot for me. Any help or insight in how to handle this would be appreciated. For clarity, I think this girl is awesome. We have great chemistry and I don't mind a fwb situation with her. She has a super high sex drive but I also can't keep up with paying each time just to meet her sexual demands. LOL I almost feel like she should be paying me with the way she's getting handled each time we meet.[/QUOTE]For someone like me this is the ideal situation. If she is for real then now is the time to negotiate a lower ppm. You always have to (and actually always want to) pay to play. Unless you are ready to take on the emotional responsibility of a BF.
But I remember when my last big fling got really serious. I told the girl. "Look. This is my monthly budget. If you want to see me twice as much that's fine. But the monthly amount can not go up". If she is really into you, she will cut the ppm in half by seeing you twice as much.
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Ok, I have to be in LA for about a week in a month. Never been there before.
I do have a subscription to seeking and secret benefits. I've had some success in my neck of the woods (WV and surrounding areas) over the years.
What I'm looking for is a chick to hang out one evening while I'm in LA, possibly overnight from like 8/9/10 to. Whenever in the morning. I've messaged a few off of seeking in the LA area, and they are all asking like 1 k and up for something like that, and frankly, some of them don't look anywhere close to 1 k hotness. I'm thinking more like 500-700'ish? I know the going rate is probably going to be much higher than I'm used to, just because of location.
I've read the forum, but I don't see much help. Anyone have any profiles from seeking or secret benefits they want to throw my way, I'd appreciate it. Feel free to DM. If you poke around on the Charleston WV / Lexington KY, Cincinnati OH forums, you can see I'm a decent contributor, and of course, if any of you ever end up in my neck of the woods, I can reciprocate.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6404902]For someone like me this is the ideal situation. If she is for real then now is the time to negotiate a lower ppm. You always have to (and actually always want to) pay to play. Unless you are ready to take on the emotional responsibility of a BF.
But I remember when my last big fling got really serious. I told the girl. "Look. This is my monthly budget. If you want to see me twice as much that's fine. But the monthly amount can not go up". If she is really into you, she will cut the ppm in half by seeing you twice as much.[/QUOTE]In my experiences in 2023, SA girls are increasingly good at manipulating you towards their financial goals. Think car sales speech and tactics.
They literally go back and forth between authentic words and then closing on you to transact. Make sure it's a fun game for you.
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[QUOTE=SeanTime53;6405198]In my experiences in 2023, SA girls are increasingly good at manipulating you towards their financial goals. Think car sales speech and tactics.
They literally go back and forth between authentic words and then closing on you to transact. Make sure it's a fun game for you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6404569]Sounds like she was digging in her hooks not switching to a gf. If she's a great as you say, keep it to SB and see her when the budget allows.[/QUOTE]In my experiences in 2023, SA girls are increasingly good at manipulating you towards their financial goals. Think car sales speech and tactics.
They literally go back and forth between authentic words and then closing on you to transact. Make sure it's a fun game for you.
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[QUOTE=Almighty;6405112]Ok, I have to be in LA for about a week in a month. Never been there before.
I do have a subscription to seeking and secret benefits. I've had some success in my neck of the woods (WV and surrounding areas) over the years.
What I'm looking for is a chick to hang out one evening while I'm in LA, possibly overnight from like 8/9/10 to. Whenever in the morning. I've messaged a few off of seeking in the LA area, and they are all asking like 1 k and up for something like that, and frankly, some of them don't look anywhere close to 1 k hotness. I'm thinking more like 500-700'ish? I know the going rate is probably going to be much higher than I'm used to, just because of location.
I've read the forum, but I don't see much help. Anyone have any profiles from seeking or secret benefits they want to throw my way, I'd appreciate it. Feel free to DM. If you poke around on the Charleston WV / Lexington KY, Cincinnati OH forums, you can see I'm a decent contributor, and of course, if any of you ever end up in my neck of the woods, I can reciprocate.[/QUOTE]$1 k is cheap for LA overnight.
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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6403301]I realize this isn't strictly a sugar question, but a few of us here are definitely older, I hope I might tap into elder knowledge. I am looking for a discreet way to get generic sildenafil. I have a SO, so there can't be any record at all of this. No mail order, no nothing. I had a very accommodating urologist who was selling bottles of it right out of his office, not via a scrip. However, he joined a large bureaucratic hospital, so that gravy train is gone. IK there are veterinary uses for sildenafil, I wondered if this provides a means to get some of it without a conventional prescription. Or if someone has a friendly neighborhood herbalist I could go to. Strictly cash on the barrelhead, no names, and no questions asked.
I do have a guy in OC I have been getting such stuff from in the past, however, he gets it from India, and my sense it that it is less reliable than the real 'good' stuff that you can get from a proper medical professional. You really want to be able to rely on your pills in the sugar game.
I'll take answers here or via PM.[/QUOTE]Open up a mailbox at local UPS / PostAnnex etc, go to ForHims and ship the ED meds of your choice to your mailbox. Done. About the easiest discreet transaction in our hobby.
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[QUOTE=Citrus1999;6406902]Open up a mailbox at local UPS / PostAnnex etc, go to ForHims and ship the ED meds of your choice to your mailbox. Done. About the easiest discreet transaction in our hobby.[/QUOTE]Yeh, non-starter. I had a mail drop a long long time ago. They want your real identity and your contact information. And I doubt they accept payment in untraceable cash. What do you think would happen if my SO found out I had a mail drop? What do you think she would think that was about? This is about the same as a burner phone. If the SO ever saw mine, it would be game over. That is why I never never have it at my home.
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CutenessssOverload
So this chick says that she's "in the medical field." She'll tell you feel like it's true love, you're perfect, blah blah blah.
She makes it seem exclusive, but buyer beware, you'll get chewed up and spit out after spending several K on gifts.
And a monthly allowance. Seriously pricey.
You might work something out exclusive, but create another SA profile and check her out, fishing for her next (or concurrent).
Sushi.
She's cute, but not worth several K monthly or weekly, and is constantly live on SA.
You've been warned.
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Babe
FCed w / the girl I mentioned earlier. A key thing I left out. She mentioned at the M&G she is adopted. This is a gold mine, you should really thank your lucky stars if you find this. I am close to many mental health professionals. They tell me they can help / treat people w / all sorts of afflictions, but that one of the most intractable situations is those who have been adopted. Folks have great difficulty getting over that in their lives. And I think this applies particularly to adopted girls on sugar dating sites.
For my SB, I would definitely say that is the case. As I mentioned, she has a kink for the age difference (young / old), and in the FC, she was all about calling me daddy. I got into it w / her, afterward she texts 'thank you daddy'. I can see this dynamic persisting. If I want to continue. Yesterday was a good setup, I was quite a ways from home base, the room was cheap, little risk to me. The girls is a bit pudgy as I mentioned, but that 23 year old skin is special. Pretty face, nice mouth / teeth, loves loves loves to kiss. She did get into it, and get off, though she wasn't that easy. Nothing remarkable sexually, but a solid performance. Probably doesn't meet my 'all about fucking high quality pussy' criteria though. I have to wait another couple of weeks for my businesswoman to return.
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Canadian Pharmacies
You can buy from Canadian pharmacies and have it shipped to your office. My prescriptions are sent to my office in plain packaging. Other than the pharmacy name on the outside, there is no indication as to what medication is inside.
[QUOTE=Citrus1999;6406902]Open up a mailbox at local UPS / PostAnnex etc, go to ForHims and ship the ED meds of your choice to your mailbox. Done. About the easiest discreet transaction in our hobby.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Drooo;6408647]You can buy from Canadian pharmacies and have it shipped to your office. My prescriptions are sent to my office in plain packaging. Other than the pharmacy name on the outside, there is no indication as to what medication is inside.[/QUOTE]Canadian pharmacies accept prepaid debit cards? That is essential for me. Electronic cash. No way I can have any charges from a pharmacy on my credit card. That sort of paper trail is a clear violation of operational security for the hitched.
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London
Still in London for another 2 months, but have to say I've had waaaay better luck out here than I did in LA. Still have a few that I can fall back on when I get back, but the quality of girls has been huge difference. I suppose I'm paying for it, at $5 whereas back in LA I was seeing regulars at $4, but definitely not as GPS as it has been.
Suppose to see this one next week. She had me buy some lingerie for her, but it's mailed to my flat so if she doesn't show up, fuck it, return it anyways. If she ghosts me, at least I have 3 other chicks here, all petite and smoking.