Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=DNut;3049547]Sending nude pics just because you asked and having an intimate encounter has absolutely nothing yo do with the other. Anyone can make a nude pic request with nothing vested other that a few key strokes and 1 kb of internet bandwidth. What does that get the girl? Most likely nothing other than compromising pbotos being in the hands of someone she has never met. Meeting and having sex is her job, and for that she gets paid, and her bills paid, and food, and housing, and car payments. To be in that room with her means you have made the investment to commit to a time, commit to the money, commit to the act, and make some effort.

It has nothing to do with modesty and everything to do with discretion. You want to see them naked? Put some skin in the game.

Have doubts? Move on. If you still want to see her, TOFTT.

But no one is entitled to nude pics just because you asked, and as much as this is a monger centric forum, most here know that the ladies have boundaries.[/QUOTE]I see your points and I don't disagree. I do appreciate the advice regarding request for what to ask for in a pic for verification rather than simply a nude pic. I am constantly learning on here and appreciate your feedback. Hope this also helps any others that may have had the same game plan or mind set I had.

HELP Adventurous Asian This evening Can be in an AMP My gift to mo LOL Can't disappoint myself sigh.

THANKS.

Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]You stop when the ROI is no longer worth it to you. What you put in and what you get out is entirely on you and no one can tell you when it's time to hang up your monger spurs.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]Another said it. Anymore it feels as if you are just masterbating in a vagina. Just need to find the vagina that fills both mental and physical need. This is the reason for keep spreading your seed.

[QUOTE=TapThat;3050186]Another said it. Anymore it feels as if you are just masterbating in a vagina. Just need to find the vagina that fills both mental and physical need. This is the reason for keep spreading your seed.[/QUOTE]I'm sure amon777 has that same sentiment. Hahaha!

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;3050188]I'm sure amon777 has that same sentiment. Hahaha![/QUOTE]There are exceptions, and he his one. He loves to spread his seed, blood and all. Forgot about him for a second.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]I'm getting close to hanging it up. You look at the cash outlay, $100 to $160 a week typically, and ask yourself if it is really worth it. I'm not sure that it is. I have been cutting back lately. The feelings tend to ebb and flow, though, so like an addiction it is tough to quit cold turkey. Who knows. That might be the best way to do it, quit cold turkey. The interesting thing is that when I go on vacation and am away for a couple of weeks I find I really haven't missed the hobby. So the question is, why continue with something that is expensive when you really don't miss it. The $10,000 question.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing n it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]I am glad you brought this up. I have the same feelings. For me, I just turned 60 yrs old. While I am in good physical shape, I still want to prove to myself that I can still get the JOB done, that I still have it. After I get the JOB done, I don't feel any better. Actually more like I just wasted $$ and I feel bad that I did. I am not married and I work a lot. I wonder if I am just really looking for company, or companionship more than trying to fulfill an urge. When the hour is up, its time to go back home, feeling empty. I think I am on top of hump, I just don't want to go over. Afraid of getting old. There I said it.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]What we all seem to miss is some kinf of emotional connection. Lately I've gone the actual sugar daddy route and am really enjoying it. Real discussions of real life events, sometimes over great lunches, fine wine or a great dinner. It's made the hobby a lot more enjoyable again and without the fear of LEO involvement. Of course, its more expensive to do it right, but I am finding it worthwhile.

This hobby is too expensive to lose the fun.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you know the answer so why even ask it. Your the only one who knows whether its worth it for you or not.

Living in a town with 30,000 sex workers and the hobby being legal I got to say that a couple times a year I just get tired of pussy. I'm also getting older and while I like sex it's not the drive it once was. You said something in your post that would be worth contemplating. "I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there" when I go see one of my regulars there is a feeling of friendship, some of them are really nice chicks, but the feeling I'm mostly chasing is a superior blowjob. I know what you're talking about because I've been there in the past. I went through a difficult time years ago and I was fucking 3-4 chicks a day, it wasn't about sex, it was about something that was missing from my life and I was using sex to fill a different need. Addiction is never about the what, it's always about the why. If you're chasing something more than casual, available, sex then brother your idea about taking a pause and assessing is not the worst idea you have ever had.

I miss the intimacy of more traditional relationships at times but the truth is 3-6 months into every relationship I ever had the only thing I wanted was out so for me, until I find a woman that's looking for the same liberty in a committed relationship that I am overall I'm better (happier) doing what I'm doing. Nobody else can answer this for you, this is a road you need to walk alone and find out what's on it for you.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3050727]If you're chasing something more than casual, available, sex then brother your idea about taking a pause and assessing is not the worst idea you have ever had.
A2.[/QUOTE]That hits it on the head. Anytime there is confusion in this regard, sober up quickly. Men want sex, (these) women want money. Since sex, for most of us, is associated with passion, emotions, caring, etc. confusion can arise, for some. The impulse is to feel a connection with someone who has ABSOLUTELY no desire to reciprocate except to extract more money. Never forget this. Never be confused over this. NEVER.

[QUOTE=Wielic;3050097]Apologies in advance if this isn't the place for this. I saw a provider today and it dawned on me that each time they do this lately I like it less and less. Seems like everytime I go I'm trying to chase a feeling that's no longer there. I leave and I ask myself if it's really worth it. This is my third year doing this and reality is rearing its ugly head; this lifestyle is not sustainable for anyone involved. I know there are guys that have retired that still read this board and I would really like to hear your thoughts on knowing when it's time to give it up and then getting over the hump of actually doing it. If anyone cares to PM I would appreciate it. Sorry to break up the fighting with my introspection. I'm just hoping some of you have been where I am and have figured things out that I don't know yet. Thanks for reading, and let the slugfest resume.[/QUOTE]I have been in the hobby over 20 years now even when I was married and got caught by my wife at the time. I agreed to go to therapy for my "sex addiction" to save my marriage. I always had great sex with my wife but after 15 years of marriage I guess I was getting bored and wanted something different. I was making a lot of money at the time and could afford to see escorts without hurting my family financially. I became what they call "master of the universe" where I thought I could do anything I wanted without regard to my wife or family. I quit the hobby during this time realizing how much I hurt my wife. We stayed married a few more years but it was never the same and we ended up getting divorced after the kids went to college. After a year I started dating and was in a serious relationship with a good woman who loved sex but she wanted to get married and I just wanted a female companion at my advanced age after going through two divorces in my life. I eventually returned to the hobby and I too have ask my self if it was worth it after seeing a so so provider where there wasn't chemistry but I have also been with fantastic providers who treat me like a boyfriend and I feel great after seeing them. The sex drive isn't as strong now but I still love pussy which is a natural normal feeling. It also is very healthy and theraputic for all human beings to enjoy sex. I love to feel all those chemicals going off in my head after a big O. This hobby isn't for everyone but for single men like me it provides me with female companionship once or twice a month with no strings attached which is what I want at this time in my life. I get my needs taken care of and the SP makes some money. Everybody wins!!

[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;3050745]That hits it on the head. Anytime there is confusion in this regard, sober up quickly. Men want sex, (these) women want money. Since sex, for most of us, is associated with passion, emotions, caring, etc. confusion can arise, for some. The impulse is to feel a connection with someone who has ABSOLUTELY no desire to reciprocate except to extract more money. Never forget this. Never be confused over this. NEVER.[/QUOTE]From the perspective of a relative newbie to this, I have already been burned thinking that friendship is part of the deal. The best advice I have received so far from this board came from TapItnRun. His motto has served me well.