Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3047090]I tried taking one for the team today with this girl, but she refused to send me any pics nude. I first asked her where I could find reviews of her (as there were none on here). She said she has no reviews because she is just starting in the business. So I said I needed a way to verify her and she informed me she doesn't send nude pics. I explained I have to have a way to verify her, my thoughts are because her pics are very tame, no nudity.

I then asked her if she would be willing to meet somewhere for a drink to meet in person, she declined and said she doesn't do that.

So much for her.

My question is what are girls hang ups with sending nude pics? IMHO that verifies they aren't LEO or part of a sting. But I've been turned down on numerous requests to different girls over time.

Do anyone have any info?

Regarding the recent string of busts, I am trying to be cautious, but also tired of the same old girls and same old reviews.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-mya-is-here-qv80-hh130-hr200/31067108[/URL][/QUOTE]Same feeling as hot as she is, I want to see her but the sharonville area screams "it's a trap!" to me.

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3047090]I tried taking one for the team today with this girl, but she refused to send me any pics nude. I first asked her where I could find reviews of her (as there were none on here). She said she has no reviews because she is just starting in the business. So I said I needed a way to verify her and she informed me she doesn't send nude pics. I explained I have to have a way to verify her, my thoughts are because her pics are very tame, no nudity.

I then asked her if she would be willing to meet somewhere for a drink to meet in person, she declined and said she doesn't do that.

So much for her.

My question is what are girls hang ups with sending nude pics? IMHO that verifies they aren't LEO or part of a sting. But I've been turned down on numerous requests to different girls over time.

Do anyone have any info?

Regarding the recent string of busts, I am trying to be cautious, but also tired of the same old girls and same old reviews.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-mya-is-here-qv80-hh130-hr200/31067108[/URL][/QUOTE]She is also advertising on the USA site:

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-35/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/19280-Come-see-mya-available-all-night-.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=FitAndHung;3045061]These busts serve to remind me why I generally don't partake in the hobby. Too many nosy people who don't mind their own business. Neighbors, whoever. It's just too risky.

I know there are mongers from this site who recently visited the sisters because I read the reviews. Are they worried? Do the cops go through phones and look at numbers or texts? I guess I don't know how that works but if you've communicated with them and texted or something it would seem to me it would be easy for the LE to look you up and trace you or whatever. Do they go after the other customers?

Wish it were easier, or legal. Just seems too risky for me.[/QUOTE]That's why you should get a trac phone and don't register it with any of your real information, when I got mine it did not require any info, it asked and I declined. Why anyone would use their real phone is not smart and for $20 for 60 days it's worth it.

This may sound stupid but. I don't really get it how LEO can bust a monger. Like "they" always say $ is exchanged just for time, and whatever happen is between 2 adult persons. So what is the case here?

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3047090]I tried taking one for the team today with this girl, but she refused to send me any pics nude. I first asked her where I could find reviews of her (as there were none on here). She said she has no reviews because she is just starting in the business. So I said I needed a way to verify her and she informed me she doesn't send nude pics. I explained I have to have a way to verify her, my thoughts are because her pics are very tame, no nudity.

I then asked her if she would be willing to meet somewhere for a drink to meet in person, she declined and said she doesn't do that.

So much for her.

My question is what are girls hang ups with sending nude pics? IMHO that verifies they aren't LEO or part of a sting. But I've been turned down on numerous requests to different girls over time.

Do anyone have any info?

Regarding the recent string of busts, I am trying to be cautious, but also tired of the same old girls and same old reviews.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-mya-is-here-qv80-hh130-hr200/31067108[/URL][/QUOTE]All the girls receive tons of texts each day from guys who have absolutely no intention of ever visiting. These men Always ask for nude pics. This is the main reason,but there is also a safety factor. Just like you guys are nervous to get caught up with LEO, the girls are to. If you tell the girl your username for the USA site and they can see that you really are serious and you do follow through with visits,they probably wouldn't have a problem sending. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=MichaelGem88;3047333]This may sound stupid but. I don't really get it how LEO can bust a monger. Like "they" always say $ is exchanged just for time, and whatever happen is between 2 adult persons. So what is the case here?[/QUOTE]Assuming you're serious, it's because your legislature has passed a criminal statute making it illegal. That's the case here, and all other States except for one county in Nevada.

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3047090]I tried taking one for the team today with this girl, but she refused to send me any pics nude. I first asked her where I could find reviews of her (as there were none on here). She said she has no reviews because she is just starting in the business. So I said I needed a way to verify her and she informed me she doesn't send nude pics. I explained I have to have a way to verify her, my thoughts are because her pics are very tame, no nudity.

I then asked her if she would be willing to meet somewhere for a drink to meet in person, she declined and said she doesn't do that.

So much for her.

My question is what are girls hang ups with sending nude pics? IMHO that verifies they aren't LEO or part of a sting. But I've been turned down on numerous requests to different girls over time.

Do anyone have any info?

Regarding the recent string of busts, I am trying to be cautious, but also tired of the same old girls and same old reviews.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-mya-is-here-qv80-hh130-hr200/31067108[/URL][/QUOTE]Why should she send you nude pics? She doesn't know you. How can she know you're not a minor pretending to be a monger asking for nude pics? How can she know you're not LEO trying to build a case against her in a sting?

How about this, since you obviously don't think it's a big deal and consider discretion to be "a hang up", why don't YOU send her nude pics first, to prove you're not LEO or a minor, then maybe she can feel safe enough to send you one.

A nude pic is not required for verification. How about asking her, "Hey! Can you verify it's you in the photos in the ad by sending me a photo with your fingers doing the Peace sign? How about a winking picture? Or blowing a kiss?

Seriously! The level of entitlement some guys have to EXPECT nude photos from someone who has never met them, and to actually complain about it in an open forum when their demands are not met, is astounding.

With that said, if you only did some searching, you would have found another ad, in CALGARY, for the same girl. If you did, you need not have bothered trying to get that girl to jump through hoops.

http://calgary.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-mya-is-here-special-before-3-am-outcall-only/14460510

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3047090]I tried taking one for the team today with this girl, but she refused to send me any pics nude.
My question is what are girls hang ups with sending nude pics? IMHO that verifies they aren't LEO or part of a sting. But I've been turned down on numerous requests to different girls over time.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-town-mya-is-here-qv80-hh130-hr200/31067108[/URL][/QUOTE]Would YOU want someone you don't know to have a nude pic of you that they could hold permanently and use against you in the future? These women have personal lives beyond their sex business, and many of them are not sure how long they are going to be doing this. They may have children, significant others, or parents and not want a picture in the hands of someone they don't know that could be used against them later.

[QUOTE=DNut;3047955]Why should she send you nude pics? She doesn't know you. How can she know you're not a minor pretending to be a monger asking for nude pics? How can she know you're not LEO trying to build a case against her in a sting?

How about this, since you obviously don't think it's a big deal and consider discretion to be "a hang up", why don't YOU send her nude pics first, to prove you're not LEO or a minor, then maybe she can feel safe enough to send you one.

A nude pic is not required for verification. How about asking her, "Hey! Can you verify it's you in the photos in the ad by sending me a photo with your fingers doing the Peace sign? How about a winking picture? Or blowing a kiss?

Seriously! The level of entitlement some guys have to EXPECT nude photos from someone who has never met them, and to actually complain about it in an open forum when their demands are not met, is astounding.[/QUOTE]My first inclination is to tell you to Fuck Off! But I also see you actually did give some suggestions regarding me requesting a specific picture of her doing something with her hand or me sending a nude pic and also another post from LL made me realize that these women are probably getting this kind of request all day every day. It is still too sketchy out there for me to take any major risks right now, so that is why I chose to pass on her, and especially given that area of Sharonville and the heat that has been discussed on the forum.

But back to the Fuck Off part, entitlement? Give me a break! Expecting nude photos from a woman I've never met. WTF, us mongers show up and have all sorts of sexual adventures with women we have never met before. Literally, walk in the door and within 2-5 minutes completely naked and having intimate encounter with a complete stranger. Your logic in your statement regarding asking for nude photos from someone they never met being out of the question is just silly.

In this moment of mongering in our area, its better to be overly cautious than not. I don't owe this woman any sort of anything to begin, especially considering she has no reviews and no history.

[QUOTE=LusciousLips;3047418]All the girls receive tons of texts each day from guys who have absolutely no intention of ever visiting. These men Always ask for nude pics. This is the main reason,but there is also a safety factor. Just like you guys are nervous to get caught up with LEO, the girls are to. If you tell the girl your username for the USA site and they can see that you really are serious and you do follow through with visits,they probably wouldn't have a problem sending. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your response. You made me realize how many requests for pictures I had not taken into consideration. I wasn't thinking about all the horny teenagers and other guys not ever planning to actually make an appointment.

Because you have reviews, I wouldn't ask that of you. But when you were first starting out, and didn't have reviews. If someone had messaged you and asked for some way to try and verify you. How would you respond?

This girl never gave any offer of how to resolve the issue. Simply said she had no reviews and wouldn't send nudes and wouldn't meet me for a drink close to where she was out in public place. Even when I said I really wanted to meet her and wanted to try to overcome that challenge.

If she and I were as smart as DNUT, I could have suggested a specific pose and her make something with her hand, but I really never thought about that as it was almost 5 PM and I wanted to get it done. Or if she truley has been traveling the country, I find it hard to believe she wouldn't know about this site and wouldn't have any reviews from other locations she could have referenced. DNUT posted a link to a Calgary ad. And another monger posted that she actually is advertising on USA now too. But who cares about the ad, I want to see reviews to verify this person.

Another point is that quite a few women on here also request verification before meeting any new clients. They won't see you unless you have proof from another provider you are not LE.

[QUOTE=MichaelGem88;3047333]This may sound stupid but. I don't really get it how LEO can bust a monger. Like "they" always say $ is exchanged just for time, and whatever happen is between 2 adult persons. So what is the case here?[/QUOTE]If your just paying for time then you can't complain when she pulls out the checker board for whatever time you payed for.

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3048021]Thank you for your response. You made me realize how many requests for pictures I had not taken into consideration. I wasn't thinking about all the horny teenagers and other guys not ever planning to actually make an appointment.

Because you have reviews, I wouldn't ask that of you. But when you were first starting out, and didn't have reviews. If someone had messaged you and asked for some way to try and verify you. How would you respond?

This girl never gave any offer of how to resolve the issue. Simply said she had no reviews and wouldn't send nudes and wouldn't meet me for a drink close to where she was out in public place. Even when I said I really wanted to meet her and wanted to try to overcome that challenge.

If she and I were as smart as DNUT, I could have suggested a specific pose and her make something with her hand, but I really never thought about that as it was almost 5 PM and I wanted to get it done. Or if she truley has been traveling the country, I find it hard to believe she wouldn't know about this site and wouldn't have any reviews from other locations she could have referenced. DNUT posted a link to a Calgary ad. And another monger posted that she actually is advertising on USA now too. But who cares about the ad, I want to see reviews to verify this person.

Another point is that quite a few women on here also request verification before meeting any new clients. They won't see you unless you have proof from another provider you are not LE.[/QUOTE]When a girl doesn't have or won't give out reviews its simple, TOFTT or move on. Pics still don't give you any idea as to performance whether nude or peace sign. With newbies or most any BP girl its a roll of the dice on any given day. YMMV applies always.

So I just read some articles about spros stings. Turn out there should be a cop undercover to be a monger to bust the girls, or undercover as a h004 er to bust a monger. So, it should be safe if we go with the girls we already known or at least got reviewed.

The reason I asked that stupid question was I affraid the cop would bust in when we are in business.

[QUOTE=Glockman;3047898]Assuming you're serious, it's because your legislature has passed a criminal statute making it illegal. That's the case here, and all other States except for one county in Nevada.[/QUOTE]

Hello All,

Long, long time lurker here but I been around a while. Such a long time that I remember Dallas and the old "Sinsinnati" website. I think he went by the title "the Mayor" back then.

Anyway I used to get out a lot more than I do, of course you got to have the $$ to play and that sometimes is hard to come by.

If I get out I'll write a review as best I can, that seems to be what we in the "hobby" can do for each other.

Until then be careful.

IWP.

[QUOTE=Addiction69;3048005]. But back to the Fuck Off part, entitlement? Give me a break! Expecting nude photos from a woman I've never met. WTF, us mongers show up and have all sorts of sexual adventures with women we have never met before. Literally, walk in the door and within 2-5 minutes completely naked and having intimate encounter with a complete stranger. Your logic in your statement regarding asking for nude photos from someone they never met being out of the question is just silly. [/QUOTE]Sending nude pics just because you asked and having an intimate encounter has absolutely nothing yo do with the other. Anyone can make a nude pic request with nothing vested other that a few key strokes and 1 kb of internet bandwidth. What does that get the girl? Most likely nothing other than compromising pbotos being in the hands of someone she has never met. Meeting and having sex is her job, and for that she gets paid, and her bills paid, and food, and housing, and car payments. To be in that room with her means you have made the investment to commit to a time, commit to the money, commit to the act, and make some effort.

It has nothing to do with modesty and everything to do with discretion. You want to see them naked? Put some skin in the game.

Have doubts? Move on. If you still want to see her, TOFTT.

But no one is entitled to nude pics just because you asked, and as much as this is a monger centric forum, most here know that the ladies have boundaries.