Been trying to get in touch with Raven, no luck, Any advice?
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Been trying to get in touch with Raven, no luck, Any advice?
I've been out of this for a while but thought I'd did my toe back in. Is Zoe ("West" or "Layne", used to have a website and a presence on A-X) still around? Also Lorraine, the little 40-something lady? Looking for contact info for both. Thanks.
[QUOTE=BaRock;5290573]I've been out of this for a while but thought I'd did my toe back in. Is Zoe ("West" or "Layne", used to have a website and a presence on A-X) still around? Also Lorraine, the little 40-something lady? Looking for contact info for both. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here is her ad with contact info:
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/zoe-layne-west[/URL]
[QUOTE=GoneForDays;5288763]Sometimes it's better to have a qv with a girl who has what you want, you can always go over on time, give her the upgrade to hh and then set your plan up for a long date once you have her confidence. Give her a chance to get familiar, ya know? 😉.[/QUOTE]Seconded. I can't speak to this particular girl, but I do appreciate some feeling of connection, and, regardless, I've had success by always starting with the lowest possible time limit for the first 2 visits. What follows is just my opinion, so use what you want, and ignore the rest!
(I think of this in a parallel way to regular dating, where a first coffee date that might change into a longer date is actually better than planning a dinner date right off the bat.) If you like the girl, call her back up 3-7 days later and say hey, I really enjoyed that, any chance you're available again? Don't over-compliment her, and DEFINITELY don't overpay her (paying above a fair rate lowers your chances,) but actively flirt with her a little on the next visit, if you had a good first one (and if you didn't, you wouldn't be trying this with this girl, right?) If she flirts back, be direct about wanting to catch up to her more often, and ask if she'd like to trade actual phone numbers. Don't stress if she doesn't, just move on to the next girl. Treating them with a little playfulness, kindness, and not forgetting that's it's a business arrangement (and subsequently turning into a creeper) has a higher success rate than you'd expect. That said, I'm old, I've been doing this a LONG time, and finding a decent connection is really rare, and they all expire after a while. If you're lucky, you'll get a few years of nice encounters, but sometimes it's just a few months.
My current ATF (similar in age to me) travels with a service, but calls me directly when she's in Virginia, and, after our second visit, we started skipping the service and she makes me her last client of the day, on any day I pick, with short notice. The first time I showed up that way (as opposed to the normal way) she asked me if I could stay for the night, which was a nice surprise. She takes a long bath before I arrive, offers me food, we chat for a long while, we screw like rabbits, and she curls up in my arms and falls asleep with little grumpies in her, until it's time for me to leave for work in the morning, sometimes with some extra fun if she wakes up, too. Money is never mentioned, but I always drop off 2 benjamins that stays on the table until I've left, and, seriously, for an overnight and the things we do, that's insanely cheap, and I repeat this 2-3 times per week while she's in town. I recognize that she's doing me a kindness, and I treat her nicely, and we do have a bit of a connection, although it's certainly not going to be anything other that a favorite customer / shopkeeper business relationship. (No Captain Save a Ho here, and apologies to her first client of the day, if he likes DATY, because he's getting more than he bargained for). I don't imagine that she doesn't have a similar setup with other folks in other places, and I'd never ask her about it. I just appreciate what she brings to the table when she's here, and I'm glad I'm her local overnight guy.
Anyway, don't try to skip ahead to a 2 hour connection on a first hello. It'll scare them the hell away. See if you like them first. That'll save you a lot of wasted time and $$ and might turn into something nice, if you're pretty casual about it, and don't ever consider changing her a bit (you're not going to make her into a housewife, and she's not going to change your life other than giving you some great nights and beautiful memories) If that's enough for you, and it is for me, you'll find what you're looking for, but it's a lot easier if you're crazy casual about the whole thing. My 2 cents, your mileage may vary, of course!
Had a visit with Staxx this afternoon and it was a 10 out of 10 experience. Everything asked for happened. She deserves at minimum me creating an account here and giving her praise. I will definitely be seeing her again.
[QUOTE=BMay101;5290713]Had a visit with Staxx this afternoon and it was a 10 out of 10 experience. Everything asked for happened. She deserves at minimum me creating an account here and giving her praise. I will definitely be seeing her again.[/QUOTE]Did she tell you about here? Or have you been here just not posting. No judgements just want to know because seems little fishy.
Not much more to be said about Staxx, all the positive reviews are true. What got me is that her room was clean, smelled good, and candles setup around the room so it felt more like a massage room. It's a welcome change from some of the messed up rooms I've seen in the past.
[QUOTE=BMay101;5290713]Had a visit with Staxx this afternoon and it was a 10 out of 10 experience. Everything asked for happened. She deserves at minimum me creating an account here and giving her praise. I will definitely be seeing her again.[/QUOTE]On this board, everyone is suspect until they aren't. You'll get used to it.
I plan to see Staxx soon. Was surprised she isn't a black gal, given a name like that.
[QUOTE=Jjny25;5290397]Been trying to get in touch with Raven, no luck, Any advice?[/QUOTE]Same here, one initial contact but no replies lately.
[QUOTE=PapiChul0;5290369]Lola, Winter and Becky are also on vacation. Kryss I think is out of the game or only seeing a very select few.[/QUOTE]Yes, I def miss kryss. Such a nice personality & most senual.
P.S.: what about Tina? Any where abouts lately?
[QUOTE=SmoothJazz2;5292953]
P.S.: what about Tina? Any where abouts lately?[/QUOTE]I've tried every number I ever had for her. No response.
[QUOTE=Entourage;5290662]Here is her ad with contact info:
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/zoe-layne-west[/URL][/QUOTE]Been trying to contact her since January and no luck.
[QUOTE=BigDaddyCouch;5293029]Been trying to contact her since January and no luck.[/QUOTE]She is out of the game. At least for now.
[QUOTE=BigDaddyCouch;5293029]Been trying to contact her since January and no luck.[/QUOTE]She's out of the game. Doubtful she will return.
Has anyone been able to see her lately? I can't get a text back.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5292109]Did she tell you about here? Or have you been here just not posting. No judgements just want to know because seems little fishy.[/QUOTE]A lot of reviews for her definitely seem sus.
Her pics just look so average or below average to me to generate this level of reviews. LOL.
My guess is that she asks her clients to do reviews on her.
[QUOTE=SeniorManager;5293304]A lot of reviews for her definitely seem sus.
Her pics just look so average or below average to me to generate this level of reviews. LOL.
My guess is that she asks her clients to do reviews on her.[/QUOTE]To be honest, the contrary is actually true. From what she shared with me, she actually finds the fact that there are 'reviews' on her to be disgusting. That is in her own words. You're right though in that I've much had better looking woman in the looks department, but she most definitely lives up to the submissive description in her ad, and goes out of her way to make sure you get the most out of your experience. She isn't a favorite of mine personally but she gets that credit from me.
[QUOTE=WhoIsSoulForce;5293412]To be honest, the contrary is actually true. From what she shared with me, she actually finds the fact that there are 'reviews' on her to be disgusting. That is in her own words.[/QUOTE]Same comment here. She never asked or mentioned reviews until I asked if she ever read any of the local forums. She said that before she came back from her hiatus, she read the forums to try to correct things in negative reviews, but that she hated reading about herself and tries to stay off it now. She seemed especially disgusted by the term "spinner" which made me laugh a little when she said it, because she is pretty much the definition. But I wouldn't say it to her in person because I want to keep visiting her! ;-)
[QUOTE=SeniorManager;5293304]A lot of reviews for her definitely seem sus.
Her pics just look so average or below average to me to generate this level of reviews. LOL.
My guess is that she asks her clients to do reviews on her.[/QUOTE]Staxx, her pictures look great if you like petite ladies. A petite lady is rare in the area, most ladies are obese.
[QUOTE=SeniorManager;5293304]A lot of reviews for her definitely seem sus.
Her pics just look so average or below average to me to generate this level of reviews. LOL.
My guess is that she asks her clients to do reviews on her.[/QUOTE]Like dead ass. It seems like she's the only person getting reviewed. I can't see the hype behind her, but to each their own.
[QUOTE=FanRat;5287489]She had gone on vacation and came out in to recovery. She put on a lot of weight and was doing well it seemed but apparently relapsed and is back on vacation.[/QUOTE]Thanks you all for the update. What a shame though. She was a nice regular. Hope things get better for her.
[QUOTE=LordQuinton;5293482]Like dead ass. It seems like she's the only person getting reviewed. I can't see the hype behind her, but to each their own.[/QUOTE]Her room is clean / nice enough, she offers good / reliable service for a decent price and she has a good attitude. That's probably why.
[QUOTE=SeniorManager;5293304]A lot of reviews for her definitely seem sus.
Her pics just look so average or below average to me to generate this level of reviews. LOL.
My guess is that she asks her clients to do reviews on her.[/QUOTE]I agree with WhoIs. When I saw her we spoke for a few about reviews and she said she finds it weird and discusting. I am sure she knows about the site but in my opinion the reason she is getting all sorts of reviews is because she is typically available, doesn't BS or make you jump through hoops, and she can be a lot of fun. She is not one of my go-to's because I enjoy something a bit different but if I am looking for a petite screamer that enjoys a good pounding then I hit her up. Just my two cents.
[QUOTE=Corndog34;5293566]Her room is clean / nice enough, she offers good / reliable service for a decent price and she has a good attitude. That's probably why.[/QUOTE]Well those all sound pretty valid to be fair
[QUOTE=WilliamsJJ703;5293722]I agree with WhoIs. When I saw her we spoke for a few about reviews and she said she finds it weird and discusting. I am sure she knows about the site but in my opinion the reason she is getting all sorts of reviews is because she is typically available, doesn't BS or make you jump through hoops, and she can be a lot of fun. She is not one of my go-to's because I enjoy something a bit different but if I am looking for a petite screamer that enjoys a good pounding then I hit her up. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Just my two cents then I'll leave it be. What provider doesn't like good reviews? I've never meant one that doesn't. Good review means more clients and more money. She isn't in this because of the benefit of meeting us. She's in this for the money. So either she is a little slow or she playing games. Either way guess it doesn't matter. She's not my thing seen her once wasn't impressed but like others have said to each their own. Be safe and never trust any of them.
[QUOTE=ChillinVA;5293440]Same comment here. She never asked or mentioned reviews until I asked if she ever read any of the local forums. She said that before she came back from her hiatus, she read the forums to try to correct things in negative reviews, but that she hated reading about herself and tries to stay off it now. She seemed especially disgusted by the term "spinner" which made me laugh a little when she said it, because she is pretty much the definition. But I wouldn't say it to her in person because I want to keep visiting her! ;-)[/QUOTE]To be fair, I've never seen any benefit to telling the providers about this forum, but there are lots of disadvantages to mentioning it. A couple of them (Redtail, for example) have showed up here over the years, in a reasonable manner, but the majority wind up identifying clients based on the details in their reviews, and that never ends well.
[QUOTE=LordQuinton;5293482]Like dead ass. It seems like she's the only person getting reviewed. I can't see the hype behind her, but to each their own.[/QUOTE]So you may a good point here, but I don't think it has anything to do with Staxx, or Smoke / Lynn / etc. Who gets rounds of mention here at times.
So the real issue is 1 of 2 other things, either.
A) folks seeing other providers just aren't mentioning it very often, or.
B) no one is seeing anyone else, probably because there are lots of threads about all the ladies who are out of the game, on vacation, ghosting clients, or otherwise just not responded in months. I know that personally I've recently had 2 providers end up on vacation the very week I was trying to set something up!
Is starting to feel like RIC is closing up the hobby shop. Sure seems like a lady could make a killing here with decent, RELIABLE service. Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=ChillinVA;5295062]So you may a good point here, but I don't think it has anything to do with Staxx, or Smoke / Lynn / etc. Who gets rounds of mention here at times.
So the real issue is 1 of 2 other things, either.
A) folks seeing other providers just aren't mentioning it very often, or.
B) no one is seeing anyone else, probably because there are lots of threads about all the ladies who are out of the game, on vacation, ghosting clients, or otherwise just not responded in months. I know that personally I've recently had 2 providers end up on vacation the very week I was trying to set something up!
Is starting to feel like RIC is closing up the hobby shop. Sure seems like a lady could make a killing here with decent, RELIABLE service. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]You are exactly right, the pickings are slim. I keep heading up the road to NOVA lately. If they opened up a K-Girl Agency down here it would make a killing!
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5294042]Just my two cents then I'll leave it be. What provider doesn't like good reviews? I've never meant one that doesn't. Good review means more clients and more money. She isn't in this because of the benefit of meeting us. She's in this for the money. So either she is a little slow or she playing games. Either way guess it doesn't matter. She's not my thing seen her once wasn't impressed but like others have said to each their own. Be safe and never trust any of them.[/QUOTE]Many of these ladies grow to absolutely hate men. They do this, as you point out, for the money. The reviews show how they let themselves be used by disgusting men.
[QUOTE]Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, OK? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four people, OK? Are you following? Good. Over here, we have a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian. [B]Down here, we have a man-hating, angry as fuck, agenda of rage, bitter dyke.[/b] Over here, we got Santa Claus, and up here the Easter Bunny. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChillinVA;5295062]So you may a good point here, but I don't think it has anything to do with Staxx, or Smoke / Lynn / etc. Who gets rounds of mention here at times.
So the real issue is 1 of 2 other things, either.
A) folks seeing other providers just aren't mentioning it very often, or.
B) no one is seeing anyone else, probably because there are lots of threads about all the ladies who are out of the game, on vacation, ghosting clients, or otherwise just not responded in months. I know that personally I've recently had 2 providers end up on vacation the very week I was trying to set something up!
Is starting to feel like RIC is closing up the hobby shop. Sure seems like a lady could make a killing here with decent, RELIABLE service. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Some probably don't post reviews for soso or even bad service bc they may be embarrassed or just don't want the negative comments.
I think a lot of Mongers don't post reviews of girls that have been around a while. For some reason there is "new car smell" kindof vibe with these girls.
New girls with good service tend to be talked about for a while and then they just aren't that interesting any more. Until something changes. Alex for instance was raved about for a while but once everyone had seen her it quieted down. Then she went downhill and got bad press and was all over the forum again. In her case I think she still has regulars but has asked them not to mention her here (for several reasons) and they will do that for her as long as she keeps them happy.
Some girls go downhill and eventually disappear entirely or wind up on the SW or ripoff reports forums.
But Richmond does have a quality problem and I can only assume its because its a small place. A girl with good skills and good service could do very well here but they burn out quick. Staxx has both and seems to have staying power but only time will tell.
I also know of providers who were the top of the game here and then moved to other markets making better money or seeing better clients or both.
Have fun and be safe!
[QUOTE=ChillinVA;5295062]So you may a good point here, but I don't think it has anything to do with Staxx, or Smoke / Lynn / etc. Who gets rounds of mention here at times.
So the real issue is 1 of 2 other things, either.
A) folks seeing other providers just aren't mentioning it very often, or.
B) no one is seeing anyone else, probably because there are lots of threads about all the ladies who are out of the game, on vacation, ghosting clients, or otherwise just not responded in months. I know that personally I've recently had 2 providers end up on vacation the very week I was trying to set something up!
Is starting to feel like RIC is closing up the hobby shop. Sure seems like a lady could make a killing here with decent, RELIABLE service. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]I choose option B. I tend to agree with FanRat in that Richmond currently has a "Quality Problem". There just aren't as many quality options available as there were a few years back or even as recent as a year ago. I've noticed that some have left the hobby after returning from "vacation" and deciding to clean up their act. While others have gotten into relationships where that lifestyle is no longer an option. I can easily think of 15 or more off the top of my head who have returned from vacation but never returned. Unless there are some old faces to re-emerge or some new ones willing to step up and fill that void this may be the new normal in this area.
I was having a hard time getting in touch with my favorites so I tried someone new. She is in one of the better notels on Midlo. Room was smokey but tolerable. Most of her pictures are reliable. She is a bit plump. Very nice chatty lady who likes to please. I will repeat only in a hardship situation. [URL]https://richmond.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/the-older-the-better/656396873451[/URL].
[QUOTE=PapiChul0;5295467]I choose option B. I tend to agree with FanRat in that Richmond currently has a "Quality Problem". There just aren't as many quality options available as there were a few years back or even as recent as a year ago. I've noticed that some have left the hobby after returning from "vacation" and deciding to clean up their act. While others have gotten into relationships where that lifestyle is no longer an option. I can easily think of 15 or more off the top of my head who have returned from vacation but never returned. Unless there are some old faces to re-emerge or some new ones willing to step up and fill that void this may be the new normal in this area.[/QUOTE]No doubt quality problem been this way for awhile. I see some promising days ahead though. This why I really only see the travelers. They seem for the most part legit, clean and in decent hotels and usually no monkey. They may cost a bit more but you get what you pay for. Scrolling thru STG first 12 ads were fake. Ridiculous! Eros or Tryst seem to be only viable sources any more.
[QUOTE=Grumpyinva;5294827]To be fair, I've never seen any benefit to telling the providers about this forum, but there are lots of disadvantages to mentioning it. A couple of them (Redtail, for example) have showed up here over the years, in a reasonable manner, but the majority wind up identifying clients based on the details in their reviews, and that never ends well.[/QUOTE]I was referring to reviewing on them or alligator. I never mention here and I deny that I know anything about us.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5292109]Did she tell you about here? Or have you been here just not posting. No judgements just want to know because seems little fishy.[/QUOTE]No she didn't. I've been searching through this board for over a year now gathering info. Idk about everyone else, but I simply had a fantastic time with her. She's just one of those gals that is really good at fucking imo.
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5295739]No doubt quality problem been this way for awhile. I see some promising days ahead though. This why I really only see the travelers. They seem for the most part legit, clean and in decent hotels and usually no monkey. They may cost a bit more but you get what you pay for. Scrolling thru STG first 12 ads were fake. Ridiculous! Eros or Tryst seem to be only viable sources any more.[/QUOTE]Further on to this I don't think the local area has ever really recovered from losing CL. It was always a gamble, but it just seemed like there were more legit ads than what STG or EB has to offer.
[QUOTE=BpGuyRva;5295569]I was having a hard time getting in touch with my favorites so I tried someone new. She is in one of the better notels on Midlo. Room was smokey but tolerable. Most of her pictures are reliable. She is a bit plump. Very nice chatty lady who likes to please. I will repeat only in a hardship situation. [URL]https://richmond.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/the-older-the-better/656396873451[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I would have beat my meat until I couldn't beat anymore before I humped on that one.
80 qv, cash only=forever! No rush, covered head7, doggie8. Clean safe microtel. Looked similar to the girl body in the pic. No drugs detected just seemed to need the cash? Remember: 80 qv in Cash Only!
[URL]https://richmond.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/let-me-be-your-get-away/030925733379[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5295739]No doubt quality problem been this way for awhile. I see some promising days ahead though. This why I really only see the travelers. They seem for the most part legit, clean and in decent hotels and usually no monkey. They may cost a bit more but you get what you pay for. Scrolling thru STG first 12 ads were fake. Ridiculous! Eros or Tryst seem to be only viable sources any more.[/QUOTE]In following this conversation, from my perspective, I can't afford the travelers and timing is everything. I've seen a couple of the ladies, to find that they are not that good to look at. I always refer to the forum when sorting them out decent vs. Ripoff. I do have a budget to play with and want someone that isn't ready for rehab and dental work. However, I DO report on all my adventures. I do read the forum closely.
[QUOTE=Grafenberg;5295190] ...
Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, OK? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four people, OK? Are you following? Good. Over here, we have a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian. Down here, we have a man-hating, angry as fuck, agenda of rage, bitter dyke. Over here, we got Santa Claus, and up here the Easter Bunny. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first? [/QUOTE]C'Mon. The answer is the bitter dyke because "the other three are figments of your f-cking imagination".
Now I want to rewatch Chasing Amy and maybe have sex with a girl in an uncomfortable place.