As has been said many times before
Men need to trust each other for good intell just as women do. We need to support one another to keep the boards safe. Most important, we need to clean out the time wasters, the druggies, the sleepers, those who don't keep appointments without a good reason and without giving forewarnings. Most of all we men need to quit seeing ladies with drug habits, failure to follow up, and those who turn on men and territorial in their treatment of other ladies and men. It is ludicrous when any client reads another clients review who states the lady he saw had tracks over her body, appeared out of it or under the influence, mechanical and not really into it, or gives a 15 minute appointment but charges for and hour, but these same men will go back to see her again because she was hot and gave a good blow job and was okay in bed. REALLY? Okay for a $ plus and hour When I first got into this one of the most respected men on the boards had a saying that holds true even today. Take out the trash and what you have left is the good that we all seek out and want to see. Post reviews and be honest but not compromisingly honest. We all know there are some things ladies will do that they don't want known so DISCRETION is the key. PM is also a good way to distribute information but get rid of the druggies, cash and dashers, ladies with thugs and pimps who come out no where to put on the pressure. Just my 02 cents worth.
The difference is simply.
[QUOTE=GoBig;1934840]One key one is that it's in Rants and Raves, so it's not taking up space in a review section. But it appears to be along the lines of SingleDad513 implying "if you don't give me what I want I'm going to tell on you." It's a perfectly reasonable stance, but one that's best made in a private conversation. It's a step above getting a new handle to trash a provider who's doing something you don't like.
While I was willing to cut BuyingSmiles some slack for being new, apparently, and because of the circumstances and also at this point because it seems kind of obvious who he was talking about because she raised her hand. But I think it was a mistake for me to encourage this sort of thing at all.[/QUOTE]I'm not looking for any favors. I'm telling a provider to calm down on the jealousy.
Maybe you're just that lovable
Or if it were me, I would look at it like I was such a stud that she couldn't stand being without me! .
In all seriousness, good luck with your situation.
-BigBird69.
[QUOTE=WordSmithFour;1934853]I'm not looking for any favors. I'm telling a provider to calm down on the jealousy.[/QUOTE]
My humor and IQ are just fine.
Since you want to quote me and tell my humor and IQ suck, I'll bite:
Your report had ZERO intel.
So you determined that goons weren't attached to her. Cool, whether they were hers or not, you still should've said which provider has a potentially cruddy neighborhood. If the provider isn't going to tell us for obvious reasons, then the men who travel should. She lives in that and wants clients, it's still on her. That's why I don't see some of the boards providers or do incall in general.
Secondly, your "witty joke" menu and restaurant? I had zero idea it existed. That's cause it's region specific to you. Get better at scheduling women and maybe you won't have to search out obscure greasy spoons on a Sunday morning. I can quote Teak, PHC, Lin's menus if you'd like.
Couldn't have said it better
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1934923]That you have to make this post. Ladies, the guys are here for variety.- if they want to see only you, then they would divorce their wives / gfs and ask for your hand in marriage...
But, I feel that the only way to stop this kind of behavior is a public shaming by naming the provider. It does let other men know that the provider gets 'clingy', gets jealous, etc.
This deals directly with the safety of our male members.- what if this provider decides to seek revenge, because you saw someone else? What if she decides to call your work, your wife, your family? What if she starts blackmailing you into only seeing her? What if she threatens to blacklist you because you saw someone else instead of her?
Unacceptable. Simply Unacceptable. Hopefully this isn't being done by a provider who claims she is elite, upscale, and highly reviewed...[/QUOTE]Took the words right out of my mouth Molly, I couldn't have said it better!
Basically you are correct but
As long as men with lots of money run into ladies with lots of needs your analogy of might go might not be completely true. This is a business and as long as both sides remember that things should play out okay. However as long as there are tons of ladies available who need money for bills, kids and their needs, drugs, and can get it by providing or having their pimps, dealers, bfs, or husbands threaten or steal, always going to be problems. The later are the ones who need to be outted and removed from the forums just as A2 had done with some of the ladies with attitudes and guys with the same. Take out the trash and the forum will become a place for good service at reasonable rates, not a jungle of douche bags which we see on a semi dailey basis although the house is in the process of being cleaned up and the quality has surely gone up thanks to ladies and gents speaking up. Just my 1 cent. Obama tax.
Odd Situation. What would you do?
Not sure if this is the best place to post, but thought I'd bounce this issue off the community.
I had a business meeting in an upscale hotel conference room with about 15 people, both sexes. We had an private unisex bathroom for our conference room. After lunch, I had to go #1 and there was an older guy already in the bathroom. I noticed a semi-attractive lady in our group that was waiting after me. When I get in the bathroom, I noticed the older guy had dribbled / peed all over the bowl rim and floor. Like a lot. I wasn't sure what to do. I didn't want the attractive lady thinking I left the bathroom like that so I went ahead and grabbed a bunch of towels and wiped it up.
What would you do in that situation?
You've got to be kidding me
[QUOTE=BigMack;1934761]Men need to trust each other for good intell just as women do. We need to support one another to keep the boards safe. Most important, we need to clean out the time wasters, the druggies, the sleepers, those who don't keep appointments without a good reason and without giving forewarnings. Most of all we men need to quit seeing ladies with drug habits, failure to follow up, and those who turn on men and territorial in their treatment of other ladies and men. It is ludicrous when any client reads another clients review who states the lady he saw had tracks over her body, appeared out of it or under the influence, mechanical and not really into it, or gives a 15 minute appointment but charges for and hour, but these same men will go back to see her again because she was hot and gave a good blow job and was okay in bed. REALLY? Okay for a $ plus and hour When I first got into this one of the most respected men on the boards had a saying that holds true even today. Take out the trash and what you have left is the good that we all seek out and want to see. Post reviews and be honest but not compromisingly honest. We all know there are some things ladies will do that they don't want known so DISCRETION is the key. PM is also a good way to distribute information but get rid of the druggies, cash and dashers, ladies with thugs and pimps who come out no where to put on the pressure. Just my 02 cents worth.[/QUOTE]Aside from anything else in this statement, some worthwhile and some not, the sad fact is that this hobby would barely exist if it weren't for drug abusers. I know there are guys who think their favorites aren't using. The providers may say so vehemently at times, and they even go deeply into diatribes about all the other drug abusers they know about. Guess what? They're lying. Or possibly they're delusional or in denial, like the guys who believe them. I have been in that place, and have been pretty well fooled once or twice, but I no longer am. There are simply very few women who do this for very long if they're not supporting a drug habit. So if you're going to get all self righteous about getting the "druggies" out of the business, I'm sorry sir, but I'm going to have to laugh.
Now, I would say that providers who at this point are charging anywhere north of $100 and sticking to it may be less likely to be addicts. But the reality is that one factor that's driven the prices down in this community, I believe, is the prevalence of heroin use and the need for providers to get their fixes fast. The other reality is that if you somehow actually succeeded in getting the "druggies" out of this trade, the rates would skyrocket and the entire sex trade would collapse. If you can't deal with the reality that many, probably most, of the women you're going to meet in this hobby are using, then you'd probably better get out of it.
I understand your response however I suggest you consider this
[QUOTE=Bucks97;1936682]Aside from anything else in this statement, some worthwhile and some not, the sad fact is that this hobby would barely exist if it weren't for drug abusers. I know there are guys who think their favorites aren't using. The providers may say so vehemently at times, and they even go deeply into diatribes about all the other drug abusers they know about. Guess what? They're lying. Or possibly they're delusional or in denial, like the guys who believe them. I have been in that place, and have been pretty well fooled once or twice, but I no longer am. There are simply very few women who do this for very long if they're not supporting a drug habit. So if you're going to get all self righteous about getting the "druggies" out of the business, I'm sorry sir, but I'm going to have to laugh.
Now, I would say that providers who at this point are charging anywhere north of $100 and sticking to it may be less likely to be addicts. But the reality is that one factor that's driven the prices down in this community, I believe, is the prevalence of heroin use and the need for providers to get their fixes fast. The other reality is that if you somehow actually succeeded in getting the "druggies" out of this trade, the rates would skyrocket and the entire sex trade would collapse. If you can't deal with the reality that many, probably most, of the women you're going to meet in this hobby are using, then you'd probably better get out of it.[/QUOTE]I didn't say we can get rid of them but women who depend on their dollars by doing this aren't going to get much from the quality men if they don't use them. Drugs put you in the company of some bad dudes who are also on this. Why would any guy fuck a woman on drugs? Doesn't make sense. Why would any man use a woman who is glassy eyed, has track marks on her body and is generally undependable. Many reviews talk about guys who drop their girls off BEFORE they get busy to go visit their supplier before delivering the good. I have no illusions we can get rid of them but that doesn't mean anyone has to use their services no matter how good they fk does it? I am not self righteous. Anyone in this has no business being so as it is all illegal. Feel free to laugh and no offense taken. But if one has the opportunity to be with quality, no drugs, no worries about bfs, husbands or pimps threatening you then it seems common sense you go in the direction of best performance and least worries. Just my feelings. There will always be the drug heads in or out of this that are looking for fast money but good quality usually provides the laeast worries. Do appreciate your side of the post but not trying to get rid of something that like the oldest profession has been around for ever. Legally speaking it is one thing to get busted for visiting a lady of the evening. It is way more serious if she happens to be a user and has it in her possession. I agree there are guys who deny their favorites are using because they are good fucks if they aren't spaced out or needing a fix. But is that really where most men want to go or do we want quality in our bedfs? Have a good weekend.
The myth of easily spotting drug users
[QUOTE=BigMack;1936730]I didn't say we can get rid of them but women who depend on their dollars by doing this aren't going to get much from the quality men if they don't use them. Drugs put you in the company of some bad dudes who are also on this. Why would any guy fuck a woman on drugs? Doesn't make sense. Why would any man use a woman who is glassy eyed, has track marks on her body and is generally undependable. Many reviews talk about guys who drop their girls off BEFORE they get busy to go visit their supplier before delivering the good. I have no illusions we can get rid of them but that doesn't mean anyone has to use their services no matter how good they fk does it? I am not self righteous. Anyone in this has no business being so as it is all illegal. Feel free to laugh and no offense taken. But if one has the opportunity to be with quality, no drugs, no worries about bfs, husbands or pimps threatening you then it seems common sense you go in the direction of best performance and least worries. Just my feelings. There will always be the drug heads in or out of this that are looking for fast money but good quality usually provides the laeast worries. Do appreciate your side of the post but not trying to get rid of something that like the oldest profession has been around for ever. Legally speaking it is one thing to get busted for visiting a lady of the evening. It is way more serious if she happens to be a user and has it in her possession. I agree there are guys who deny their favorites are using because they are good fucks if they aren't spaced out or needing a fix. But is that really where most men want to go or do we want quality in our bedfs? Have a good weekend.[/QUOTE]I'm just saying that believing some of your favorite providers aren't drug users is probably delusional and sets up a distinction that has no real difference. They're not all glassy eyed, track marked or undependable. Even among the heroin users, some are pretty good at shooting up where it doesn't show and others are just snorting it. I've simply seen way too many alert and seemingly sober women in this business who end up getting arrested with drugs or needles. I've seen at least one case of a "respected senior" swearing a higher-end provider is clean despite said provider having just pleaded guilty to drug-related charges.
It's only prudent to assume that any provider you visit in this hobby is a drug user and recognize the risks. That's why having them to your home or in your car is a bad idea. You get pulled over and she decides to ditch her drugs or supplies and suddenly you're in a whole other level of legal culpability. I'm assuming the guys who are using streetwalkers are aware of this risk, because that's a population where pretty much 100% of the providers are drug users. I'm not sure the guys using escorts are always aware of the risk, and they should be.
Each person has their own way of dealing with ladies and those who have been in this
[QUOTE=Bucks97;1938155]I'm just saying that believing some of your favorite providers aren't drug users is probably delusional and sets up a distinction that has no real difference. They're not all glassy eyed, track marked or undependable. Even among the heroin users, some are pretty good at shooting up where it doesn't show and others are just snorting it. I've simply seen way too many alert and seemingly sober women in this business who end up getting arrested with drugs or needles. I've seen at least one case of a "respected senior" swearing a higher-end provider is clean despite said provider having just pleaded guilty to drug-related charges.
It's only prudent to assume that any provider you visit in this hobby is a drug user and recognize the risks. That's why having them to your home or in your car is a bad idea. You get pulled over and she decides to ditch her drugs or supplies and suddenly you're in a whole other level of legal culpability. I'm assuming the guys who are using streetwalkers are aware of this risk, because that's a population where pretty much 100% of the providers are drug users. I'm not sure the guys using escorts are always aware of the risk, and they should be.[/QUOTE]A long time may or may not have a plan that works for them in that respect. Let each person deal with ladies as fits them. We all know there are many risks and just by being in this we accept that fact. None of us in this know anything for sure. We can only take a leap of faith based on fellow mongerers and who we see and go from there with who we chose to see and not see. Have a great week and Happy Thanksgiving early.
