Does anyone know what happened to the MT'S from Granger since the raid?
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Does anyone know what happened to the MT'S from Granger since the raid?
I just noticed an ad on STG for a massage place on Jefferson. Is that new or am I just slow?
Drove by today. Noticed the sign has been updated. Says "Relax Foot Massage" or something like that. The "massage" sign was lit. One of the 2 open signs was lit but I could not tell if it was actually open. I drive by basically every other day for work and just happened to see. Anyone know anything about this?
I just noticed an ad on STG for a massage place on Jefferson. Is that new or am I just slow?
Pretty sure the one on Jefferson is Sun. It's been there for a while. Standard house fee and standard finish. No utc allowed. Good looking 30 iag woman last time I went a few weeks ago.
[QUOTE=BooGetts;6554413]Drove by today. Noticed the sign has been updated. Says "Relax Foot Massage" or something like that. The "massage" sign was lit. One of the 2 open signs was lit but I could not tell if it was actually open. I drive by basically every other day for work and just happened to see. Anyone know anything about this?[/QUOTE]Yes they are open. I saw Kaylee who is younger than the norm and very attractive. There is more than your feet involved but maybe the name is smart. Re minded me of the pre covid days there.
Forget the frustration of going to an AMP wondering what you will get or not get. Give Bre a try. Went last week, was stressed from work, was sore from demolition work around the house. Could have gone to an AMP. But instead gave Bre a text. She worked me over, my back, thighs and even my feet and calves. I bet she massaged me for close to 30 minutes. She said she really enjoys giving them and when she rubbed some coconut oil on her pussy and then began to grind it on my legs I began to forget about my pain and soreness. No wondering if you will be completely satisfied, because you will be. I'm ditching my massage therapist for her from now on.
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[QUOTE=BoatMate;6555348]Yes they are open. I saw Kaylee who is younger than the norm and very attractive. There is more than your feet involved but maybe the name is smart. Re minded me of the pre covid days there.[/QUOTE]At least they have a little bit of time before the next big set of meaningless politically oriented enforcement actions start up again.
Does anyone know where Ewah from Legends is at now? Mamasan said Chicago. Had grown quite fond of her massage therapy skills.
[QUOTE=Gutenberg469;6566667]Does anyone know where Ewah from Legends is at now? Mamasan said Chicago. Had grown quite fond of her massage therapy skills.[/QUOTE]Ewah will be missed. Anyone know of an equivalent replacement?
I was in Elkhart again and wanted to try somewhere different. I called VIP and they said I could come right over. It in a small strip mall that was empty at 5 pm on a Sunday. I walked in and was met by Kuku. She wore a tight black t shirt with maybe Bs and a short faux leather skirt with spandex shorts underneath. She brought me back to the room I asked for an hour and a shower. Handed her the house fee and she left. I got undressed and when she came back in she handed me a really small towel which didn't even wrap completely around me LOL.
She brought me to the shower and I tried and tried but she wouldn't join me. But she did wash me very well and volintarily gave me a great L1 when she was done. I rinsed off and she barely dried me. Back to the room and face down.
I asked and she said she had only been doing massage for 4 months. She did a remarkably good job for someone that hadn't been doing it long. Her english wasnt that great, she's pretty fresh here from China. I asked but she didn't tell me what she did before massage (I think she didn't understand the question).
So very passable massage with some light teasing. Soft touch that could have been softer and slower. Then on to another L1.
Finished woth massaging my arms, legs and face. On my way out another girl said HI to me. She had longer hair and wearing a sun dress and she looked very pretty!
[QUOTE=ChrissCannon;6571578]I was in Elkhart again and wanted to try somewhere different. I called VIP and they said I could come right over. It in a small strip mall that was empty at 5 pm on a Sunday. I walked in and was met by Kuku. She wore a tight black t shirt with maybe Bs and a short faux leather skirt with spandex shorts underneath. She brought me back to the room I asked for an hour and a shower. Handed her the house fee and she left. I got undressed and when she came back in she handed me a really small towel which didn't even wrap completely around me LOL.
She brought me to the shower and I tried and tried but she wouldn't join me. But she did wash me very well and volintarily gave me a great L1 when she was done. I rinsed off and she barely dried me. Back to the room and face down.
I asked and she said she had only been doing massage for 4 months. She did a remarkably good job for someone that hadn't been doing it long. Her english wasnt that great, she's pretty fresh here from China. I asked but she didn't tell me what she did before massage (I think she didn't understand the question).
So very passable massage with some light teasing. Soft touch that could have been softer and slower. Then on to another L1.
Finished woth massaging my arms, legs and face. On my way out another girl said HI to me. She had longer hair and wearing a sun dress and she looked very pretty![/QUOTE]Is this in Elkhart or the VIP in Mishawaka next to the Phillips gas station?
[QUOTE=MsCarn77;6571639]Is this in Elkhart or the VIP in Mishawaka next to the Phillips gas station?[/QUOTE]Mishawaka. I was spending the night in Elkhart. I ended up eating at Evul Czech.
I drove over from Porter County to try new place in old Best. Closed down, already. Wowser, wonder what that's about.
So next went to Legends. Hoping Eewah might have returned. Nope. And Mamsan again tried to be my massage therapist. WTF. NFW. Said no one available for 1/2 hour. I didn't return.
Why the hell didn't I exchange numbers with Eewah. Still kicking myself. Anyone knows where she is, I'll pay for base rate hour massage for you. We'll figure out the how of it.
[QUOTE=Gutenberg469;6573754]I drove over from Porter County to try new place in old Best. Closed down, already. Wowser, wonder what that's about.
So next went to Legends. Hoping Eewah might have returned. Nope. And Mamsan again tried to be my massage therapist. WTF. NFW. Said no one available for 1/2 hour. I didn't return.
Why the hell didn't I exchange numbers with Eewah. Still kicking myself. Anyone knows where she is, I'll pay for base rate hour massage for you. We'll figure out the how of it.[/QUOTE]Well that just changed my plan tomorrow. Anyone know more?
[QUOTE=BoatMate;6573862]Well that just changed my plan tomorrow. Anyone know more?[/QUOTE]I was there 2 weeks ago and it was just 1 girl working and she said they are looking for more girls so I'm guessing they didn't yet and I'm sure she was getting real tired doing it all by herself.
[QUOTE=BoatMate;6573862]Well that just changed my plan tomorrow. Anyone know more?[/QUOTE]I drove by today. Totally shut down. Letters on the portable sign were removed. No note in the door. I guess it was a very short-lived reboot of this spot. If only it could go back in time, that place was amazing.
I went stopped in Wednesday and had a very good time with a mid 40's tiny Asian tiny a cups tiny butt. Great massage and roaming.
Utc top and expose. Good finish. 6 total half hour and tip.
[QUOTE=Gutenberg469;6573754]I drove over from Porter County to try new place in old Best. Closed down, already. Wowser, wonder what that's about.
So next went to Legends. Hoping Eewah might have returned. Nope. And Mamsan again tried to be my massage therapist. WTF. NFW. Said no one available for 1/2 hour. I didn't return.
Why the hell didn't I exchange numbers with Eewah. Still kicking myself. Anyone knows where she is, I'll pay for base rate hour massage for you. We'll figure out the how of it.[/QUOTE]I did exchanger her number. I texted her two days ago and simply asked if she was still in SB. She texted back "No". These girls do not speak English. I record a simple message on Google Translator which appears in Mandarin Text, I screen shot the message and send the screenshot in a text message. So the message must be very short. She can read the message and respond. That said, due to limited English ability, it must be a yes or no sentence. Kiss it.
Was over in Mishawaka recently and decided to swing by VIP. Greeted when I went in by a early 40's lady that shows me to the room. I ask for an hour and requested a shower. She brings me a towel and leads me to the back bathroom and then immediately sees herself out. Suffice to say not what I had in mind. So I shower by my lonesome and walk out of the bathroom where the lady is waiting to lead me back to the room. Massage was pretty decent with a fair amount of teasing and helped me get over my frustration with my lack of shower time companionship. About a little over halfway through she has me flip and gives a good topless L1 followed by another decent massage of my front and head. Outside of a disappointing start with the solo shower it was a pretty good way to spend a little over a c-note. I may repeat if I'm in the area and have a craving for Chinese but I kind of want to try Fresh too.
Vonhellish,
So 4 for the half hr and a 2 tip for a total of $6. ?
Stopped by the spa on 19 near Bristol St. Showed to room by nice looking lady, solid 8 on the AMP scale. Opted for HH for 45 and was told 10 min wait. Got comfortable and got on table face up. 20 min later she returned and playfully asked what I wanted and indicated that a full menu was available. Just wanted massage and hand shake. She asked how much and I told her 45. She said no so I told her that just a massage would be fine. She said no and left the room. Returned with my door fee. Got dressed and out the door. Never had this happen before. As always, I was polite and respectful. Will not return.
[QUOTE=Sailor60;6598417]Stopped by the spa on 19 near Bristol St. Showed to room by nice looking lady, solid 8 on the AMP scale. Opted for HH for 45 and was told 10 min wait. Got comfortable and got on table face up. 20 min later she returned and playfully asked what I wanted and indicated that a full menu was available. Just wanted massage and hand shake. She asked how much and I told her 45. She said no so I told her that just a massage would be fine. She said no and left the room. Returned with my door fee. Got dressed and out the door. Never had this happen before. As always, I was polite and respectful. Will not return.[/QUOTE]Yeah, from what I've gathered that place is more brothel and less massage parlor. I went there some time back and the girl was doing a pretty hard sell on the most massage festivities. She was pretty easy on the eyes so I decided to treat myself to FS. It was better than I expected if I'm being honest. All that being said if I was just looking for a massage and a quick happy ending I'd probably avoid this place and look towards Mishawaka or South Bend or even down the road to the massage parlor on W. Bristol.
Would you recommend Fresh or VIP and why? Which one has the best providers? Where am I more likely to get a L2 or at least a topless L1? Other pros and cons of each?
So if this place is more like a brothel, is it better than the hotel asian? Is FS offered?
[QUOTE=BradyHarden;6600150]Yeah, from what I've gathered that place is more brothel and less massage parlor. I went there some time back and the girl was doing a pretty hard sell on the most massage festivities. She was pretty easy on the eyes so I decided to treat myself to FS. It was better than I expected if I'm being honest. All that being said if I was just looking for a massage and a quick happy ending I'd probably avoid this place and look towards Mishawaka or South Bend or even down the road to the massage parlor on W. Bristol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SilverDragon17;6603753]So if this place is more like a brothel, is it better than the hotel asian? Is FS offered?[/QUOTE]I can't speak to if it's better than the hotel Asians as I've never taken that leap because they won't send pictures of the actual girls. That being said, yes FS is most certainly offered.
[QUOTE=BradyHarden;6603942]I can't speak to if it's better than the hotel Asians as I've never taken that leap because they won't send pictures of the actual girls. That being said, yes FS is most certainly offered.[/QUOTE]What is Hotel Asian?
[QUOTE=BradyHarden;6603942]I can't speak to if it's better than the hotel Asians as I've never taken that leap because they won't send pictures of the actual girls. That being said, yes FS is most certainly offered.[/QUOTE]The user that brought this place in Elkhart up in his post stated that he walked out in response to an offer for FS! Are you kidding me? So tell me in a way that is acceptable to the administrator of this site. How much do they ask for FS? Thanks.
[QUOTE=BradyHarden;6603942]I can't speak to if it's better than the hotel Asians as I've never taken that leap because they won't send pictures of the actual girls. That being said, yes FS is most certainly offered.[/QUOTE]The reason why I ask is because I have a FS arrangement in a very well known and reported on AMP in South Bend. But maybe the arrangement on Cassopolis St. In Elkhart is better? Who knows? But I will tell you one thing; I am very pleased with my current arrangement; both in terms of price and in terms of service.
[QUOTE=Outspent;6607849]The reason why I ask is because I have a FS arrangement in a very well known and reported on AMP in South Bend. But maybe the arrangement on Cassopolis St. In Elkhart is better? Who knows? But I will tell you one thing; I am very pleased with my current arrangement; both in terms of price and in terms of service.[/QUOTE]Are you willing to share info?
[QUOTE=ChrissCannon;6608525]Are you willing to share info?[/QUOTE]Interesting that you ask ChrissCannon. This has been my experience with AMPs. Over the last 5 years. I try different AMPs and different providers until I find one who is willing to provide FS. Next thing I know, the relationship is disrupted because the BIG BOSS finds out that one of the providers is offering FS and then the provider is shipped off to New York. Have you ever wondered why so many of the providers and AMPs in South Bend have a New York connection? The scenario I just described has happened 5 different times in 4 different AMPs. So the last thing I want is a bunch of mongers flooding into my current arrangement only to learn that my favorite provider has been discovered and shipped off to New York. That said, if you wish to meet me for a beer at a local watering hole, I may provide you the info you want.
[QUOTE=Outspent;6608990]Interesting that you ask ChrissCannon. This has been my experience with AMPs. Over the last 5 years. I try different AMPs and different providers until I find one who is willing to provide FS. Next thing I know, the relationship is disrupted because the BIG BOSS finds out that one of the providers is offering FS and then the provider is shipped off to New York. Have you ever wondered why so many of the providers and AMPs in South Bend have a New York connection? The scenario I just described has happened 5 different times in 4 different AMPs. So the last thing I want is a bunch of mongers flooding into my current arrangement only to learn that my favorite provider has been discovered and shipped off to New York. That said, if you wish to meet me for a beer at a local watering hole, I may provide you the info you want.[/QUOTE]Call me Tom T Hall then because I like beer! LOL.
[QUOTE=Outspent;6608990]Interesting that you ask ChrissCannon. This has been my experience with AMPs. Over the last 5 years. I try different AMPs and different providers until I find one who is willing to provide FS. Next thing I know, the relationship is disrupted because the BIG BOSS finds out that one of the providers is offering FS and then the provider is shipped off to New York. Have you ever wondered why so many of the providers and AMPs in South Bend have a New York connection? The scenario I just described has happened 5 different times in 4 different AMPs. So the last thing I want is a bunch of mongers flooding into my current arrangement only to learn that my favorite provider has been discovered and shipped off to New York. That said, if you wish to meet me for a beer at a local watering hole, I may provide you the info you want.[/QUOTE]I completely understand what you're saying. And full discluse I'm not a FS guy, but I like more than just a jackhammer and have found that FS places are more open.
I'm not from the SB area but I do travel there a bit for work (ill be there next week). But in my experience most AMP girls throughout the country have ties to New York.
Stopped by VIP and was met by Anna. Nice looking, almost spinner type, wearing a short dress. Medium pressure massage with a little different technique, in a good way. Nice tease before the flip and standard HE. No problem with UTC roaming, but no FIV. Finished hh with nice foot massage. Standard door and tip.
[QUOTE=ChrissCannon;6609907]I completely understand what you're saying. And full discluse I'm not a FS guy, but I like more than just a jackhammer and have found that FS places are more open.
I'm not from the SB area but I do travel there a bit for work (ill be there next week). But in my experience most AMP girls throughout the country have ties to New York.[/QUOTE]Since I brought up New York in the last post. Have you ever wondered how the local AMP managers can afford to drive BMW, Audi, Mercedes? That is what I see parked behind each AMP and I have seen the local AMP manager get in or get out. These AMPs cannot generate that much income. My suspicions are that the AMPs around SJC are money laundering operations for NY owners. An AMP represents the best way to launder money since every transaction is in cash. The middle managers make a good income as a result. But not the providers. The providers themselves seem to all have a New York pipeline to SB.
[QUOTE=Outspent;6615587]Since I brought up New York in the last post. Have you ever wondered how the local AMP managers can afford to drive BMW, Audi, Mercedes? That is what I see parked behind each AMP and I have seen the local AMP manager get in or get out. These AMPs cannot generate that much income. [/QUOTE]The reason they afford it is because of your money. And to them those are quality cars and familiar. Fords, chevy, etc are not familiar makes in China. Even normal massage parlors charge 60 to 100 per hour and booked solid all day for atleast 4-8 customers a day plus tips per provider.
[QUOTE=Outspent;6615587]My suspicions are that the AMPs around SJC are money laundering operations for NY owners. An AMP represents the best way to launder money since every transaction is in cash. The middle managers make a good income as a result. But not the providers. The providers themselves seem to all have a New York pipeline to SB.[/QUOTE]I already told you why most have connections to new york. Are you trying to start a consiparcy theory here or something? Most of all these girls are here to make money for families at home or to pay off debt. New york is a hub for incoming people from other countries.
South bend area is known for having L1 service and top notch massage ability. If you want more than a great massage you usually need to travel elsewhere or get lucky. That's why if they are found to give more they are fired and told to go somewhere else.
I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish other than start trouble where there is none. Are you upset because you didn't get what you wanted? See above!!
Does anyone have experience with Asian Concept on Lincolnway? Ad seems interesting but interested to hear customer experiences before I head in.
[QUOTE=Crazy469;6616171]The reason they afford it is because of your money. And to them those are quality cars and familiar. Fords, chevy, etc are not familiar makes in China. Even normal massage parlors charge 60 to 100 per hour and booked solid all day for atleast 4-8 customers a day plus tips per provider.
I already told you why most have connections to new york. Are you trying to start a consiparcy theory here or something? Most of all these girls are here to make money for families at home or to pay off debt. New york is a hub for incoming people from other countries.
South bend area is known for having L1 service and top notch massage ability. If you want more than a great massage you usually need to travel elsewhere or get lucky. That's why if they are found to give more they are fired and told to go somewhere else.
I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish other than start trouble where there is none. Are you upset because you didn't get what you wanted? See above!![/QUOTE]Your logic would suggest that all native-born Chinese in USA would be driving high end luxury cars. Not the case. My own Chinese neighbors and numerous Chinese colleagues drive economy cars; Chevy, Ford, etc. Second, tips stay with provider, house fee goes to manager. Third, I know of NO AMP charging 100 roses for a house fee. 60-65 per hour is the prevailing rate. Most mongers on this site state that they visited for hh. Last, AMPs are not booked solid. No line waiting out the door; in fact, most are vacuous of clients. Your hyperbolic comment is not supported by reality. Like I stated, AMPs are a great money laundering platform. That is my suspicion based on the consistent NY connections and the mid-level managers driving high-end luxury cars, which is incongruous with the amount of income generated by each AMP. The managers' incomes are being padded by something other than the daily receipts.
[QUOTE=Outspent;6616839]Your logic would suggest that all native-born Chinese in USA would be driving high end luxury cars. Not the case. My own Chinese neighbors and numerous Chinese colleagues drive economy cars; Chevy, Ford, etc. Second, tips stay with provider, house fee goes to manager. Third, I know of NO AMP charging 100 roses for a house fee. 60-65 per hour is the prevailing rate. Most mongers on this site state that they visited for hh. Last, AMPs are not booked solid. No line waiting out the door; in fact, most are vacuous of clients. Your hyperbolic comment is not supported by reality. Like I stated, AMPs are a great money laundering platform. That is my suspicion based on the consistent NY connections and the mid-level managers driving high-end luxury cars, which is incongruous with the amount of income generated by each AMP. The managers' incomes are being padded by something other than the daily receipts.[/QUOTE]Sorry but you are being taken by your provider LOL. Providers split house fee around here. Some of those "managers" driving the "high end" luxury cars are the providers not the owners. And you can go to BMW or the mercedes dealer in town and pick up a used one for less than the cost of a ford ranger. Sounds to me like you are jealous that they are driving a nice car while you are driving a 1985 honda civic. If you can't afford a nice car stop spending your money at AMPs.
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Even the AMPs I said 4 - 8 customers per day for a 12 hour shift (so not booked solid). Think about it. Of course your provider is going to tell you she only gets tips so you will tip more.
You are looking for something that does not exist. You started this nonsense after posting a couple times like you are fishing for information just like the news spouting about human trafficking. All these women around here can come and go as they please. Non are forced to be here. There is no secret connection other than the fact that a huge majority come to the US through new york like most immigrants. So go put your foil hat back on and go get massages from massage envy at the mall.
Go to reddit or something to spout your conspiracy theories.
[QUOTE=Crazy469;6617564]Sorry but you are being taken by your provider LOL. Providers split house fee around here. Some of those "managers" driving the "high end" luxury cars are the providers not the owners. And you can go to BMW or the mercedes dealer in town and pick up a used one for less than the cost of a ford ranger. Sounds to me like you are jealous that they are driving a nice car while you are driving a 1985 honda civic. If you can't afford a nice car stop spending your money at AMPs.
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Even the AMPs I said 4 - 8 customers per day for a 12 hour shift (so not booked solid). Think about it. Of course your provider is going to tell you she only gets tips so you will tip more.
You are looking for something that does not exist. You started this nonsense after posting a couple times like you are fishing for information just like the news spouting about human trafficking. All these women around here can come and go as they please. Non are forced to be here. There is no secret connection other than the fact that a huge majority come to the US through new york like most immigrants. So go put your foil hat back on and go get massages from massage envy at the mall.
Go to reddit or something to spout your conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE]This is the most excitement I've seen on this board in a couple years.
[QUOTE=IveBeenThere;6618875]This is the most excitement I've seen on this board in a couple years.[/QUOTE]You have provided so many wrong statements regarding how the AMPs are operated of which you have not responded to my corrections (I. E. 100 roses house fee? Most recently you stated. "Providers split house fee around here. " No they do not. House fee is paid up front and goes right to the manager. Second you stated. "Some of those "managers" driving the "high end" luxury cars are the providers not the owners. " Wrong. The managers do not provide service. They sit in a back office and are there to keep the providers in line. I hear them emerge from time to time but are mostly sequestered. I have seen them get in and out of their luxury vehicle. The owners are in NYC. Every provider's phone number in my cell is a NYC prefix. NYC is the base of operation for each local AMP. The owners have a network to recruit girls from China and then distribute them to their network of local AMPs. Local managers are paid well (hence drive luxury vehicles) and make sure that house fees are collected, house the providers, and run the local operation. No conspiracy theory here. The accounting takes place in NYC. That is how money laundering works. A purely cash business that generates minimal but positive income can be easily embellished in the accountant's book. They cook the books in other words.