Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Edward Nigma; 1183374]It was a bad breakup in the sense that I found out about her starting the CL ad extracurriculars and she lied to me about it, so I told her that I wasn't interested in continuing to nail her without protection at that point. Hell, she could have at least offered me a cut and I could have driven some business her way LOL.

Warning: She will accept a email / phone call requesting massage only as just that. Whatever you offer to pay, she will not give any extras. If you ask her about extras, she'll come up with a figure. I've known guys getting FS / CBJ for < $. Which is a steal considering how she looks. AFAIK she didn't get into drugs, she is just trying to pay rent to the guy she is living with (her "boyfriend") and take care of her kid.

She doesn't want to do the FS / CBJ stuff, but she isn't known for saying "no" if you request beforehand.[/QUOTE]Hey, Edward. So is this your girl. Or not? Found her on a dating website so maybe she gives out free "massages" too. Says she is in Crestwood.

[QUOTE=Walter White;1198732]Hey, Edward. So is this your girl. Or not? Found her on a dating website so maybe she gives out free "massages" too. Says she is in Crestwood.[/QUOTE]Do you other guys on here not give a girl any private life? Yes I know she and he went out. (she complained about him and something about the heat in his house.)

But see now I'm getting personal. And I am a strong believer in letting other people be unless they are offering something to you.

I don't want trouble with you edward. Just I think we should give all call / massage girls a private life of some sort.

Especially the sweet ones

Dance is exactly right. All of these ladies have a private life and that private life should be kept off the street and off this forum. We sometimes get invited into the ladies home and get a glimpse at their life away from the hobby. If you were to allow a provider in your home or let them find about your private life how would you feel if they shared that information with everyone who can turn on a computer. This relationship is a two way street and we can not expect any more from the ladies than we are willing to give.

[QUOTE=Walter White;1198732]Hey, Edward. So is this your girl. Or not? Found her on a dating website so maybe she gives out free "massages" too. Says she is in Crestwood.[/QUOTE]Person things belong in a personal conversation, see'mon you think only the hobbiest has a personal life? Those pics should be deleated it has her child in them. WHO EVER posted this has some personal involvment with and should be ashamed.

I thought only women did this sort of thing, LOL!

[QUOTE=Ginal;1198969]Dance is exactly right. All of these ladies have a private life and that private life should be kept off the street and off this forum. We sometimes get invited into the ladies home and get a glimpse at their life away from the hobby. If you were to allow a provider in your home or let them find about your private life how would you feel if they shared that information with everyone who can turn on a computer. This relationship is a two way street and we can not expect any more from the ladies than we are willing to give.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true gentleman Ginal. A little respect and consideration goes a long way, and most of the time the ladies are grateful. MJ

[QUOTE=Mammiejammer;1200387]Spoken like a true gentleman Ginal. A little respect and consideration goes a long way, and most of the time the ladies are grateful. MJ[/QUOTE]Pictures of kids cross a line in here. That should be reported by all and have it taken down.

So whats the point in Dogg'and Ed over this woman any longer?

If you wanted to see her why didn't you. Did you freak her out and she asked you to leave?

Way uncool.

PM is for that kinda stuff.

I know she reads this forum and great way to send her under the radar. And so much hobby potential right there.

There are some real A-holes on this thread. Old ladies more like it.

I would not have posted something like that but I feel completely indifferent about it as well. Why are we so quick to defend these women, who should understand what business they are in? They are not our kids who need 'looking after'. They are grown women who made a CHOICE to become prostitutes. Who are we to judge them or people like us? Its like we are expecting morals to be exhibited during immoral acts. You wouldn't expect a drug dealer to be morally inclined during a drug deal? Or any other criminal to operate morally during a crime. Yes on this board, for the most part, we are all cordial and respectful among each other, but should that respect and niceness only be extended to those who believe what we believe or behave how we behave? Or to all? Private life for the women? Again I am indifferent but once you post on BP, CL, or any dating site YOU threw your own privacy out the window. Is good intel suppose to be private? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the entire point of this site to give and get good intel on providers? Other than good intel, I don't believe no one here has posted anything private that wasn't already public first. BP, CL, or dating site photos are FAR from private. The pic of her with her kid, if I'm not mistaken, came from a DATING site. We have not forced ANY of these women to choose the life they lead. And WE are not responsible for their irresponsible behavior, nor should we defend it because by doing so we condone or enable this behavior to grow or get worse.

@DanceOnMe, it is your OPINION that she or any other girls are sweet. We can't expect people to behave the way we would based on OUR opinions. They have their own opinion ya know. You say she is sweet and should be treated as such but another might say she is a 'prostitute' and should be treated as such.

@Ginal, if we allowed a provider into our home then we should KNOW the possible consequences of such action which is why most of us DO NOT. And if they shared any info on us then instead of placing blame on who, we should be more focused on HOW they got the info, and that points right back to US being irresponsible. It is a two way relationship but both parties choose what info to give and how responsible they should be.

@PaigesPH, Again Walter apparently shared info that is already on the internet via the PUBLIC dating site, info that SHE posted there. Try telling HER to take the pics of her and her kid off. We all knew she had a kid, and as far as I can see the face is blurred.

@MJ, Again why are we expecting to see respect given in a disrespectful industry. Its true those things go a long way, but who's to say someone is looking for a longterm provider? Maybe some guys simply like to go around and be disrespectful to women. Are we hobbyist, who passively enable these women to disrespect themselves, any different than those who aggressively and openly disrespect them?

@Charlsalanhead, you're right, it is no point of dogging Ed, who is only the messenger, of apparently accurate info concerning a provider. Its not his fought he (the hobbyist) ended up being romantically involved with a provider. Also yes, this should have been PMd because it was obviously addressed to one person, but regardless I'm not going to be mad at him of Ed for it.

@Walter, you seem like a newbie but just Pm detailed info because often times LE or the actual providers read our posts. LOL.

If I am mistaken about where the pic of her kid came from then I stand corrected and apologize, but if not then we all need to take a long look in the mirror before we choose to criticize another for what we think are indiscretions. All of us involved in this entire industry are performing many indiscretions whether we want to admit it or not. Let's stop judging and pointing fingers and get back to posting or PMing good reports! LOL.

Prince

[QUOTE=Prince83; 1200811]I would not have posted something like that but I feel completely indifferent about it as well. Why are we so quick to defend these women, who should understand what business they are in? They are not our kids who need 'looking after'. They are grown women who made a CHOICE to become prostitutes. Who are we to judge them or people like us? Its like we are expecting morals to be exhibited during immoral acts. You wouldn't expect a drug dealer to be morally inclined during a drug deal? Or any other criminal to operate morally during a crime. Yes on this board, for the most part, we are all cordial and respectful among each other, but should that respect and niceness only be extended to those who believe what we believe or behave how we behave? Or to all? Private life for the women? Again I am indifferent but once you post on BP, CL, or any dating site YOU threw your own privacy out the window. Is good intel suppose to be private? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the entire point of this site to give and get good intel on providers? Other than good intel, I don't believe no one here has posted anything private that wasn't already public first. BP, CL, or dating site photos are FAR from private. The pic of her with her kid, if I'm not mistaken, came from a DATING site. We have not forced ANY of these women to choose the life they lead. And WE are not responsible for their irresponsible behavior, nor should we defend it because by doing so we condone or enable this behavior to grow or get worse.

@DanceOnMe, it is your OPINION that she or any other girls are sweet. We can't expect people to behave the way we would based on OUR opinions. They have their own opinion ya know. You say she is sweet and should be treated as such but another might say she is a 'prostitute' and should be treated as such.

@Ginal, if we allowed a provider into our home then we should KNOW the possible consequences of such action which is why most of us DO NOT. And if they shared any info on us then instead of placing blame on who, we should be more focused on HOW they got the info, and that points right back to US being irresponsible. It is a two way relationship but both parties choose what info to give and how responsible they should be.

@PaigesPH, Again Walter apparently shared info that is already on the internet via the PUBLIC dating site, info that SHE posted there. Try telling HER to take the pics of her and her kid off. We all knew she had a kid, and as far as I can see the face is blurred.

@MJ, Again why are we expecting to see respect given in a disrespectful industry. Its true those things go a long way, but who's to say someone is looking for a longterm provider? Maybe some guys simply like to go around and be disrespectful to women. Are we hobbyist, who passively enable these women to disrespect themselves, any different than those who aggressively and openly disrespect them?

@Charlsalanhead, you're right, it is no point of dogging Ed, who is only the messenger, of apparently accurate info concerning a provider. Its not his fought he (the hobbyist) ended up being romantically involved with a provider. Also yes, this should have been PMd because it was obviously addressed to one person, but regardless I'm not going to be mad at him of Ed for it.

@Walter, you seem like a newbie but just Pm detailed info because often times LE or the actual providers read our posts. LOL.

If I am mistaken about where the pic of her kid came from then I stand corrected and apologize, but if not then we all need to take a long look in the mirror before we choose to criticize another for what we think are indiscretions. All of us involved in this entire industry are performing many indiscretions whether we want to admit it or not. Let's stop judging and pointing fingers and get back to posting or PMing good reports! LOL.

Prince[/QUOTE]If you find these women so odious then why do you waste your time and money on them as you are obviously soooo much better than them. Not all of the women in this business are soulless trolls. Some of them are very sweet decent people. Many of them got into this life at a very young age because of terrible home conditions and it was the the only way for them to survive. Many members on this board try to rise above the mundane don't give a sh*t attitude that most of the world seems to have these days. It doesn't have to be OUR kid for us to care about it or the personal privacy of it's mother. Being decent and understanding doesn't cost a damn dime. You should invest in a little of that it just might do you some good. MJ

[QUOTE=Juarezeducated; 1201497]A $60 massage is now 45 minutes. My session was with Leon (or Leanne). Got there at 6:06 (big clock in the room) , turned over $60 at 6:14, girl back at 6:20, sauna for about 5 minutes and to table shower. Got a decent wash and back to room about 6:33. Quick rub or two and then asked if I needed something else. Only thing on menu was HJ for $60 and I said no but didn't quit trying to negotiate. At 6:48 as I was trying to make another proposal she said session was over.

She said that $60 is now for 45 minutess. Won't go back. Probably my worst AMP session ever. [/QUOTE]I have been to Bali several times, though not since it was "new" whatever you mean by that. Their adds always have said that in my experience. (someone correct me if it has actually changed). Every time I have been I got what I wanted. Maybe it was the way you acted, trying to "negotiate". I have asked a couple of the girls there about that, and they both made it clear that if you want to talk about it then it makes them nervous. I leave the money out, no talk, and I get what I want. Forgive me if you are a pro at this and I sound condescending, not my intent at all, just trying to help.

Tried a neighbor and she was pretty good. Just wouldn't get into the extra's and for only $.4 an hour massage who cares. But pretty girl. Anyways. I'm back to trying out people that are in the business. Anyone have a girl they suggest. Photos and description. Or an ad works great.

P. S. I like the girls with a great attitude.

Hey MJ, thanks for responding. I'm not going to drag this on much, but where did I say or even imply that I thought these women were unpleasant or repulsive? I don't think that at all. And your opinion of me thinking I'm better than anyone has no basis. Could you please re-read my post. I haven't placed any judgement on anyone. I simply stated facts. And the fact of matter is I've always been respectful, cordial, and nice to every provider I've been involved with, also I have never thought I was better than any of them either. I never said any of them were soulless. Never said they weren't nice, decent people either. Why are you seemingly replacing my words? I too care about general privacy and kids as well cause I have one. But why aren't you directing your so called 'concern' with the correct person, the girl who posted a pic of her kid on a dating site! What privacy do you feel has been invaded? A guy reposting public info is NOT an invasion of privacy buddy. It might be improper, insensitive, or plain ignorance but nothing more. I don't have a don't give a sh•t attitude either. I care just as much as you or anyone else. I simply see things differently than you. And what I see is that although you are decent and seem to be an overall nice guy, you do NOT seem to understand people of this trade especially if you believe most of the women only had two choices, prostitution or not surviving. C'mon MJ! I KNOW you know better than that, just my opinion though, and I respect yours as well.

I don't recall discussing my ex in this thread, but I did in another. Sorry I missed the discussion, but wanted to post my two cents:

1. I don't have anything against her except for the fact that she started being a "provider" in the middle of our dating relationship after having not done anything like that in over a year. I would not have had a problem with that if she had been up front and told me instead of continuing a relationship with me while building a foundation elsewhere (for std / sti reasons).

2. I've strived both publicly and in PMs to keep her personal info to a minimum. Actually, I've basically just been tossing business her way (and told her as much recently) and never even gave a single one of you her cell phone number or email, but just pointed you where to find it yourself, and those of you intrepid enough to do so were able to have a good time. My hope being that you didn't carry too much of my info with you since I didn't arrange it directly.

I don't really care what / who she is doing as I haven't been involved with her in about 6 months now. I've shared my personal experience with her because there was an interest expressed in "insider knowledge" so to speak, as it is something we rarely get when seeing the ladies.

I don't want to offend anyone, and I have no desire in fanning the flames of drama. I haven't shared anything beyond my personal time with her (devoid of most identifiable details) , some pictures (sans kid) , and inside information on what she charges for her time and what you can expect.

In any event, I have no desire to discuss her further at this point. I'll let her handle her own business.

Peace,

Edward.

[QUOTE=Juarezeducated; 1203147]1."whatever you mean by that". It's pretty clear and you even addressed this. They are perpetually saying they're new.

2. Do you have some firsthand contrary experience that the "new" Bali doesn't now charge $60 for 45 minutes?

3. Maybe you're just white knight? You pop up with a response that conjectures about something I did. Maybe the only thing I did was go in as a hobbyist expecting more than a misleading session.

4. Oh? And I guess you never "negotiate"? Show me a seasoned hobbyist who has never negotiated.[/QUOTE]I was not sure what you meant by that statement, if it was just their ongoing "new" slant on advertising, or if something (ownership / management) has actually changed. Hence my usage of the term.

2. The last time I was there (which I will admit was about 7 months ago) no, they did not charge 60 for 45 minutes. That could have changed sometime in the recent past, but it hasn't always been that way.

3. You likely won't believe this, but I do not know who white knight is, so it would be hard for me to be that person. And if you think I just created an account to address what you said, look back through some of the AL forum, you will find prior posts (albeit few)

4. Actually, no, I don't. In the AMP context, I talked about money one time, my first time in one. What I payed seemed reasonable to me based upon experience outside that context, and I have used that as a basis for what I "left out" on other occasions, factoring in consideration for the looks of the masseuse. I don't do the SW thing, and am not much for haggling in any context. If I offer what I think it is worth, and they do not think it is enough, I will do business elsewhere. But you may be right about the "seasoned" thing. I have not been in this hobby very many years, and I do not partake frequently.

I was not trying to offend or harass you. This board (from what I see posted by the long time members) is intended to give pointers and advice. When I read your prior post, it sounded like you had done some things that girls at that particular spa have told me would would make them nervous, make them wonder if you were a cop. And that jives with the girl cutting your session short too. Just trying to contribute to the community here, and if I offended you I am truly sorry.