MotorCity Mayhem

[QUOTE=Mchara;3484272]Brother I said same in post long ago. The whole "courtesan" high class give me you life vitals and I'll call your workplace but hey it's safe is sheer STUPIDITY. I am speaking as friend of LEO who are NOT vice and think it's stupid unless leads to disease etc. [b]And when these high class girls who you can "trust" get busted first thing uncle does is get files / black book or pressure them to roll to extort celebs[/b]. Cops can be crooked and into asset forfeiture et al same as organized crime but it's WORSE cause they have color of law and brainwashed media to back their bs. Don't do Eros bullshit OT anything else and be safe bros.[/QUOTE]You are also setting yourself up to be blackmailed. All a provider need is my screen name and two references that are less then a year old.

[QUOTE=Mchara;3481017]I don't peruse streetwalkers don't see worth risks LEO disease etc but no hate if that's your thing.

Just know that I know DPD friend (yes, regular cops don't give $& about vice) and they say the vice is pressured to fudge LIPIO (loitering in public intending offense ordinance if not bull bleep I don't know what is? A crime before you commit a crime what the fudge minority report) and asset forfeiture is big money for city and with them being insolvent even more pressure. I'd just avoid whole scene only reason LEO cares is money when those same resources could be spent fighting serious addictive drugs like crack, meth, and crocodile (anyone heard about later? It's new drug that gets you high one side effect IT ROTS YOU LIKE LEPEROSY). Sorry rant over be safe.[/QUOTE]It's loitering in a place of illegal occupation.

[QUOTE=DetroitBaller;3485643]It's loitering in a place of illegal occupation.[/QUOTE]Yes:'point of post is its money grabbing bs. LEO mind reading in certain area. Before you hate: know a private eye doing legitimate surveillance in points on work comp fraud and went thru living HELL to prove innocent and working so LIPIO is BULLSHIT imo and money grabbing DPD can pound it up ass.

[QUOTE=Mchara;3485659]Yes:'point of post is its money grabbing bs. LEO mind reading in certain area. Before you hate: know a private eye doing legitimate surveillance in points on work comp fraud and went thru living HELL to prove innocent and working so LIPIO is BULLSHIT imo and money grabbing DPD can pound it up ass.[/QUOTE]I had to read this post several times before I thought I understood it correctly. But now that I do, I can add this: the points made are spot-on. The place of "illegal occupation", in case you all were wondering, usually refers to an abandoned house with squatters. My friend Nikki's roommate has been issued at least one citation for LIPIO, the latest one for attending a barbecue hosted on the lawn of an abandoned house. According to the girls, Detroit LEO makes a practice of combing their neighborhood for such activities, and issuing citations when they find likely offenders. Why? Because there are plenty of empty houses, therefore plenty of opportunities, and it's easy pickin's.

[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3485753]I had to read this post several times before I thought I understood it correctly. But now that I do, I can add this: the points made are spot-on. The place of "illegal occupation", in case you all were wondering, usually refers to an abandoned house with squatters. My friend Nikki's roommate has been issued at least one citation for LIPIO, the latest one for attending a barbecue hosted on the lawn of an abandoned house. According to the girls, Detroit LEO makes a practice of combing their neighborhood for such activities, and issuing citations when they find likely offenders. Why? Because there are plenty of empty houses, therefore plenty of opportunities, and it's easy pickin's.[/QUOTE]It's mostly used for being in drug houses or in a area known to sell drugs but can be applied for anything they see fit.

[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3485753]I had to read this post several times before I thought I understood it correctly. But now that I do, I can add this: the points made are spot-on. The place of "illegal occupation", in case you all were wondering, usually refers to an abandoned house with squatters. My friend Nikki's roommate has been issued at least one citation for LIPIO, the latest one for attending a barbecue hosted on the lawn of an abandoned house. According to the girls, Detroit LEO makes a practice of combing their neighborhood for such activities, and issuing citations when they find likely offenders. Why? Because there are plenty of empty houses, therefore plenty of opportunities, and it's easy pickin's.[/QUOTE]Being caught in Abondon houses and building as long as your not stealing or scrapping usually results with a EWOP ticket which is Entering without permission.

[QUOTE=MightyMonger;3485518]There are no "reliable providers" on BP, just junkies and rip offs. Detroit has reliable providers, they just don't post on BP. You will need references.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3485740]I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki.

[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XirCom;3485845]There are plenty of reliable providers on backpage, Nikki is just one of them.

Xircom.

[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you two but I'll move it here just to keep it off the review thread.

Nikki is a drug addict SW that made her way to BP via a pimp, she is not a reliable escort. I'm not saying she not cute or that she doesn't have skills, I'm just saying she's a typical BP provider that will F you over as soon as her pimp tells her to. Now for the sake of argument lets say she is a reliable provider, that's one. One provider out of the 100 and something that post everyday on BP. Now I'm going to stick to my guns and say there are no reliable providers on BP, just junkies and rip offs. You say there are, so please prove me wrong by posting your top ten providers that post on BP. I'd love to see this list.

[QUOTE=MiMonger69;3443483]Hey guys. Any of you remember the NR "safe" list? I'm thinking of compiling another list. For those of you that aren't that familiar with it I'll fill you in. It's basically a running list that includes ladies that have been met by trusted members and whom they have had a good experience with compared to those that they have not. The idea isn't to give out all of the details but enough so someone could get a general idea of the safety, experience, and what website they can be found at. At the moment I have information on about 20 girls (I've personally seen) and a few details I've gained from trusted members. I would maintain, add, and remove ladies from the list as circumstances change.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MightyMonger;3445361]If you're talking about BP girls, BP isn't NR. NR had professional local escorts, BP has nothing but drugged out, pimped out, fake picture using, trash on it.[b] I'd love to see this list, when do you plan on posting it?[/b]

Also the whole "trusted member" thing is going to be very hard to police. Providers like to make monger accounts and self-promote themselves. I know its been a few weeks but does any one remember Heather AKA RainMan2017 or any of her other accounts? And you know damn well shes back again with another monger account.

MiMonger69, I wish you luck but I just don't see it working here like it did on NR, EV, or AES

Good luck with it friend[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiMonger69;3447462]I understand your points. My intent isn't to create an exclusive BP list. I simply posted in this forum because it seems to be more active. I was looking to create a list that included safe ladies in the industry. I have personally seen ladies from Mysclarlet, BP, eros, other sites. Of these ladies some post in multiple locations or some are exclusive to one site. My intention was to take all the ladies that I have seen and compile a list. The list would include their "stage" name, city or general area they work out in. Additonal criteria for making the determination would be how safe the area was and how clean the provider is.

Therefore to be a trusted lady I was thinking that I would start with the ladies that I have seen and those where multiple mongers message me with their positive or negative experience. The ladies with the most positive feedback will top the list. This list would be fluid because as we all know women come, go, or simply fall to the dark side.

My thought was to create another forum for this discussion (once the initial list is created) then we can have an open and running discussion about the list, who should be added for what reason and who should bo be on the list. Maybe we have a list of providers that have red flags as well.

We all enjoy this hobby to provide ourselves with our god given man needs and everyones circumstances are different but we all deserve to have a safe and healthy experience before we get back to our regular lives.

I am working on the first list and acceptance criteria. If you or anyone would like to message me personally so I can provide a more accurate list then please pm me. This only works if feedback is shared.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Still waiting on your list too MiMonger69, its been a month brother.

[QUOTE=MightyMonger;3488074]I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you two but I'll move it here just to keep it off the review thread.

Nikki is a drug addict SW that made her way to BP via a pimp, she is not a reliable escort. I'm not saying she not cute or that she doesn't have skills, I'm just saying she's a typical BP provider that will F you over as soon as her pimp tells her to. Now for the sake of argument lets say she is a reliable provider, that's one. One provider out of the 100 and something that post everyday on BP. Now I'm going to stick to my guns and say there are no reliable providers on BP, just junkies and rip offs. You say there are, so please prove me wrong by posting your top ten providers that post on BP. I'd love to see this list.[/QUOTE]I've seen her several dozen times and had a good experience every time, no hint of drugs or a pimp. Goes out of her way to make me happy. Are we talking about the same Nikki? There's a lot of Nikki's on BP, Have you actually seen her, do you have a photo other than the ones posted? I don't have a top ten list of BP providers, I'm only talking about Nikki. Just saying. Peace.

Xircom.

Forgot link.

Xircom.

[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403[/URL]

[QUOTE=DetroitBaller;3485794]Being caught in Abondon houses and building as long as your not stealing or scrapping usually results with a EWOP ticket which is Entering without permission.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reminder! You are correct, Nikki told me about this too, and I had forgotten until you posted.

[QUOTE=XirCom;3489572]I've seen her several dozen times and had a good experience every time, no hint of drugs or a pimp. Goes out of her way to make me happy. Are we talking about the same Nikki? There's a lot of Nikki's on BP, Have you actually seen her, do you have a photo other than the ones posted? I don't have a top ten list of BP providers, I'm only talking about Nikki. Just saying. Peace.

Xircom.[/QUOTE]Agree with Xircom. I have also seen Nikki several dozen times. She does not appear to be a drug addict nor have a pimp. And she treats me very well.

I believe you might be confusing her with another Nikki. It is a common name. Several members have PM'd me, asking if she is this or that Nikki from John are, with the wrong age, hair, body type, ethnicity, etc.

As for my top ten BP providers. There isn't such a list, because I quit (mostly) using BP since I found Nikki. You are not wrong to say most BP providers are unreliable; in my very limited experience, most of BP providers are not the girl pictured in the ad, or not available when they say, or not available at all. And that is why I continue to see Nikki. I know what to expect with her. And we get along. I'm comfortable with her.

[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3489996]Agree with Xircom. I have also seen Nikki several dozen times. She does not appear to be a drug addict nor have a pimp. And she treats me very well.

I believe you might be confusing her with another Nikki. It is a common name. Several members have PM'd me, asking if she is this or that Nikki from John are, with the wrong age, hair, body type, ethnicity, etc.

As for my top ten BP providers. There isn't such a list, because I quit (mostly) using BP since I found Nikki. You are not wrong to say most BP providers are unreliable; in my very limited experience, most of BP providers are not the girl pictured in the ad, or not available when they say, or not available at all. And that is why I continue to see Nikki. I know what to expect with her. And we get along. I'm comfortable with her.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about the same Nikki you posted about picking up on Grand River in the Triangle, the same one that's in this BP ad. After you first posted about her I found her for myself on Grand River by the veterinary hospital with her pimp in tow. Do I need to quote your posts in the SW thread?

[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403[/URL]

This isn't about Nikki, its about BP being nothing but bad news when it comes to escorts. You said, and I quote, "I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki," so please prove me wrong by posting a list of reliable providers. With over a 100 posts per day on BP Nikki is less then 1%. I'm sure you and XirCom click real well with her, all I'm trying to do is warn you and others to be careful, it can go South as soon as her pimp tells her to get over on you. Time will always tell what type of provider she is, drugs, pimp, etc.

Good luck, play safe, and I'd still love to see your top 10 list of BP providers, hell a top 5 list will even do.

[QUOTE=XirCom;3489572]I've seen her several dozen times and had a good experience every time, no hint of drugs or a pimp. Goes out of her way to make me happy. Are we talking about the same Nikki? There's a lot of Nikki's on BP, Have you actually seen her, do you have a photo other than the ones posted?[b]I don't have a top ten list of BP providers, I'm only talking about Nikki[/b]. Just saying. Peace.

Xircom.[/QUOTE]If Nikki's the only reliable girl you know from BP then why would you say, and I quote, "there are plenty of reliable providers on backpage?" When you post bogus info like this it can get someone in serious trouble. BP is a very dangerous avenue of the hobby, there are NOT reliable, safe, professional, escorts on that site.

Hobby safe XirCom

[QUOTE=MightyMonger;3491065]I'm talking about the same Nikki you posted about picking up on Grand River in the Triangle, the same one that's in this BP ad. After you first posted about her I found her for myself on Grand River by the veterinary hospital with her pimp in tow. Do I need to quote your posts in the SW thread?

[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403[/URL]

This isn't about Nikki, its about BP being nothing but bad news when it comes to escorts. You said, and I quote, "I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki," so please prove me wrong by posting a list of reliable providers. With over a 100 posts per day on BP Nikki is less then 1%. I'm sure you and XirCom click real well with her, all I'm trying to do is warn you and others to be careful, it can go South as soon as her pimp tells her to get over on you. Time will always tell what type of provider she is, drugs, pimp, etc.

Good luck, play safe, and I'd still love to see your top 10 list of BP providers, hell a top 5 list will even do.[/QUOTE]I'm not disputing that most ads on BP are from unreliable sources. And I never said I had a top ten list. And we all appreciate the timely reminders that BP is the Wild West, so no one should let their guard down.

I am very interested in learning more about this person you say is her pimp. How do you know?