"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Coolhand2; 1178107]I'm probably more sensitive to the no-show issue because of my travel situation. Not the 5 hour drive that Spitfire made but at least 2. There are some SB's in my local area but I don't want the risk of running into them at the mall afterward. There's one local one who messages me about every five days but I continue to ignore her. At least I don't make a date and then don't show up.

My last no-show (21 year old, looks 15) has now apologized and says she wants to meet. I won't be able to til mid next week at the earliest, which leaves lots of room for shit to happen between now and then. [/QUOTE]I'm with you on the no-show issue. My travel situation is similar. The 5 hour drive I made over the weekend is unusual. I had 2 meetings lined up, but they were in opposite directions. The first one I had to drive 2 hours one way, then the next day turn around and drive the opposite direction. So it made it much longer than it would normally be. I don't think I could deal with travel long term as my work keeps me busy and I'd rather not spend all of my free time on the road. Especially for no joy at the end.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1178082]In both cases they came off escort boards. One was from e. Com, the other from avenue-x. I had set up the trips to meet with SB's in their area and I did not want the trips to go to waste (see previous comments on warden restrictions.) I had seen both for a while on their respective boards so I contacted them based on that. It was only in hindsight that I realized the similarities that I noted in my post. I believe the key is that neither toured and only did outcall. No incall means less chance of a production line and leads to my assumption of low volume. It could just be karma paying me back for the bad luck I've had lately with SB's.[/QUOTE]Did you make firm appointments with these ladies or just keep them in mind as a backup?

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1178185]Everyone has something different that they're looking for in this game. Me, I'm in it to find a long term mistress type deal. The first SB I ever met when I started has become the gold standard for me. She was a college student at a local university, smart, funny, pretty and turned on by the age difference. She always joked that her friends told her she had an old-man fetish. We lasted for nearly a year and a half before she graduated and moved away. We still exchange emails every now and then. That's why I'm still in this game, chasing after that same great experience. But until I do, I'll fill my time with short-termers or one-timers.[/QUOTE]Well you obviously have a lot more experience at this sb game than I do. I feel kind of presumptuous for commenting on your technique.

We are definitely looking for different kinds of pussy. The last thing I want is a long term mistress. My ideal is a constantly changing reliable stable of sbs I can have whenever I want, like a harem. But a lot of the sb girls want to be a long term mistress. I bet you find what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1178317]Well you obviously have a lot more experience at this sb game than I do. I feel kind of presumptuous for commenting on your technique.

We are definitely looking for different kinds of pussy. The last thing I want is a long term mistress. My ideal is a constantly changing reliable stable of sbs I can have whenever I want, like a harem. But a lot of the sb girls want to be a long term mistress. I bet you find what you're looking for. [/QUOTE]No need to feel presumptuous! I'm always open to new ideas. I have a lot more strike outs than home runs, that's for certain. Besides, I'm not sure any one approach will work on any woman, so I tend to try different ways for each one. Anything to improve my batting average is welcome. .

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1178190]Did you make firm appointments with these ladies or just keep them in mind as a backup?[/QUOTE]I had observed them on the sites but they weren't in my usual area. With the bad run of luck I had been having with SB's when I knew I would at least be in striking distance, I kept them in mind. When the SB no-shows materialized, I called and it was easy to make the appointment. The hardest thing was for me to get over my reluctance to get a room in my name. Once I had crossed the Rubicon the first time, the second was easy.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1178160]You got that right. I've never had so much pussy in my life but I wouldn't have paid for it when I was 30.

Mid-fifties (I'm really mid-sixties). My photos in my private gallery are real and recent. A lot of girls don't bother to reply to me after they look at them. [/QUOTE]That's just what I suspected, that at 30 the weird one is the guy on the SB site. When I was 30 I would have fell out laughing if anyone had suggested that I do such a thing. It makes me wonder what are these women thinking. The ones who are really nuts are the ones who sign up for the site looking for husbands. What are they thinking?

Age wise I'm in the exact same position as you. Mid sixties, look 50+. I had listed my age as 62 on the site but after reading your post I changed it to 55. I have not posted any pics, still to nervous about that. When asked I do give a accurate description of myself. Maybe that's something I'll have to rethink.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1177919]I've been on the SB kick for over 3 years now and it's hard work but when you find a good one for a long-term it makes it worth it. At least to me.[/QUOTE]The fact that you've hung in there for three years, even with all the work, gives me hope. My first two experiences were good, which is why I've kept plugging at it the last four months. Hopefully patience will have some tangible rewards.

I had a SB for 2 ½ years. She was the hottest woman I've ever been around, the smartest and the woman with the biggest heart. The lesser considerations, she frucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. I did not want more and fortunately for me she was 24 years younger and could make no assumptions. I was pretty sure she had others which didn't bother me. We got together monthly, enjoyed our time and I put a gift in her purse on the ride down the elevator. So she was a SB or she was an UTR escort. The last two times I noticed she wasn't able to stay as long, but that happened to me a couple of times also. Then it was getting to be about that time again and we were texting to arrange our next get together and the following day I saw her wedding mentioned on a girlfriends social network site. So that was the end of that. A husband creates a whole different risk. He's a lucky man, but on full time duty. I doubt I'll find another her.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1179638]The fact that you've hung in there for three years, even with all the work, gives me hope. My first two experiences were good, which is why I've kept plugging at it the last four months. Hopefully patience will have some tangible rewards.[/QUOTE]My hat to all of you guys. Seems like I just cannot even get one bite.

[QUOTE=Richmond Mas;1179826]My hat to all of you guys. Seems like I just cannot even get one bite.[/QUOTE]Stay positive, things will turn your way.

Has anyone had any luck with the Sugarbaby4U site. I signed up but have not paid. So far I've seen mainly out of state and what looks like TGTBT.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1179881]Has anyone had any luck with the Sugarbaby4U site. I signed up but have not paid. So far I've seen mainly out of state and what looks like TGTBT.[/QUOTE]I met 1 woman from that site, but most of my luck has been from seeking arrangement.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1179881]Has anyone had any luck with the Sugarbaby4U site. I signed up but have not paid. So far I've seen mainly out of state and what looks like TGTBT.[/QUOTE]I've had zero luck there. All these sites "pad their rosters" with shills and / or profiles for non-existent people, but the site you mentioned does seem to be pretty blatant.

My best luck was on CL before they closed the "adult jobs" section. There are some SB types in the "casual encounters" section, but you have to do a LOT of weeding to find the real blades of grass. I re-wrote my profile on the SD4Me site and I'm finally getting some responses to emails, though not from the ones I would prefer. And I got my first actual rejection email last night, where someone I had written on the site replied to say no thanks. That's a rare one.

[QUOTE=Cantwinlosin; 1180031]I've had zero luck there. All these sites "pad their rosters" with shills and / or profiles for non-existent people, but the site you mentioned does seem to be pretty blatant.

My best luck was on CL before they closed the "adult jobs" section. There are some SB types in the "casual encounters" section, but you have to do a LOT of weeding to find the real blades of grass. I re-wrote my profile on the SD4Me site and I'm finally getting some responses to emails, though not from the ones I would prefer. And I got my first actual rejection email last night, where someone I had written on the site replied to say no thanks. That's a rare one. [/QUOTE]Another thing that you'll notice the more you're in this game. When your subscription expires, within a day or 2 you'll get an email from someone with a profile that fits everything you're seeking. But since your subscription has expired, you can't contact them. So, you re-subscribe, email that person and never hear anything else. A 'fake' ad that I believe is created by the site itself. It's a tactic these sites use to keep you on the hook.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1179635]Age wise I'm in the exact same position as you. Mid sixties, look 50+. I had listed my age as 62 on the site but after reading your post I changed it to 55. I have not posted any pics, still to nervous about that. When asked I do give a accurate description of myself. Maybe that's something I'll have to rethink.[/QUOTE]If you're getting sbs to meet without showing your pic, you must be mighty persuasive.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1179825]I had a SB for 2 ½ years. She was the hottest woman I've ever been around, the smartest and the woman with the biggest heart. The lesser considerations, she frucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. I did not want more and fortunately for me she was 24 years younger and could make no assumptions. I was pretty sure she had others which didn't bother me. We got together monthly, enjoyed our time and I put a gift in her purse on the ride down the elevator. So she was a SB or she was an UTR escort. The last two times I noticed she wasn't able to stay as long, but that happened to me a couple of times also. Then it was getting to be about that time again and we were texting to arrange our next get together and the following day I saw her wedding mentioned on a girlfriends social network site. So that was the end of that. A husband creates a whole different risk. He's a lucky man, but on full time duty. I doubt I'll find another her.[/QUOTE]This has to be a classic story. You may not find another one like her, because it sounds like you were at least a little bit in love with this particular girl, but I believe a lot of the sbs on the website are looking for just this kind of relationship with an sd. It's not for me because I don't want to risk emotional involvement which would happen to me for sure in this kind of long term affair, but it sounds like it was great for you.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1179844]Stay positive, things will turn your way.[/QUOTE]I agree with this.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1179881]Has anyone had any luck with the Sugarbaby4U site. I signed up but have not paid. So far I've seen mainly out of state and what looks like TGTBT.[/QUOTE]I hadn't heard of this one before. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Cantwinlosin; 1180031]I've had zero luck there. All these sites "pad their rosters" with shills and / or profiles for non-existent people, but the site you mentioned does seem to be pretty blatant.

My best luck was on CL before they closed the "adult jobs" section. There are some SB types in the "casual encounters" section, but you have to do a LOT of weeding to find the real blades of grass. I re-wrote my profile on the SD4Me site and I'm finally getting some responses to emails, though not from the ones I would prefer. And I got my first actual rejection email last night, where someone I had written on the site replied to say no thanks. That's a rare one. [/QUOTE]Often when they reject you without saying anything they just delete your email on the site. You can tell when they have read your email and when they haven't and you can tell when they have looked at your profile. You can also tell when they delete your email. If they delete it without reading it after they have looked at your profile, it's probably the worst response. I agree its rare to get an actual rejection email.

I should have made clear that I am only familiar with the email feautures of the sd4me site. I don't know if the other sites' email works the same way or not.

[QUOTE=Literal2;1181158]Often when they reject you without saying anything they just delete your email on the site. You can tell when they have read your email and when they haven't and you can tell when they have looked at your profile. You can also tell when they delete your email. If they delete it without reading it after they have looked at your profile, it's probably the worst response. I agree its rare to get an actual rejection email.[/QUOTE]Lit, you are right. I joined this SB4U and all I received are mails from girl way further than the north pole. You know you will never meet anyone that far away anyway.

The ones that's close by never return emails. What the heck is that?

[QUOTE=Richmond Mas; 1181423]Lit, you are right. I joined this SB4U and all I received are mails from girl way further than the north pole. You know you will never meet anyone that far away anyway.

The ones that's close by never return emails. What the heck is that? [/QUOTE]The girls from far away are just hoping to find someone dumb enough to travel to see them or pay them to travel. For example, two bi-sexual girls in Russia told me they would come over for a week and make me happy if I just send them enough money to travel, put them up in a hotel or an apartment, feed them and give them a big allowance. Maybe they were just trying to trick me out of money and the girls didn't really exist, or maybe some guys are rich enough to bring them over for a visit. Not me.

As to the nearby girls that don't reply. It's like any other kind of picking up girls. You have to contact enough girls and make yourself attractive enough by your presentation (your profile and emails) to get them interested in talking to you. If they don't reply, keep changing your approach until they do.

Thats about the best I can do RM. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1179825]I had a SB for 2 ½ years. She was the hottest woman I've ever been around, the smartest and the woman with the biggest heart. The lesser considerations, she frucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. I did not want more and fortunately for me she was 24 years younger and could make no assumptions. I was pretty sure she had others which didn't bother me. We got together monthly, enjoyed our time and I put a gift in her purse on the ride down the elevator. So she was a SB or she was an UTR escort. The last two times I noticed she wasn't able to stay as long, but that happened to me a couple of times also. Then it was getting to be about that time again and we were texting to arrange our next get together and the following day I saw her wedding mentioned on a girlfriends social network site. So that was the end of that. A husband creates a whole different risk. He's a lucky man, but on full time duty. I doubt I'll find another her.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Literal2;1181148]This has to be a classic story. You may not find another one like her, because it sounds like you were at least a little bit in love with this particular girl, but I believe a lot of the sbs on the website are looking for just this kind of relationship with an sd. It's not for me because I don't want to risk emotional involvement which would happen to me for sure in this kind of long term affair, but it sounds like it was great for you.[/QUOTE]Lightning struck to find so many fine qualities in such a hot package. We met monthly for four hours. Half the time she came to me. Half the time I went to her. In the entire 2 ½ years every time was just like the first time. In love? Not on your life. If I were in love I would want to spend all my time with her. A woman around a lot, anyone around a lot, is not my thing. I have a reclusive side. I was always happy when it was time to return to our lives. I would not have fit into her life or she mine.

Gents.

I am not from your area but kept seeing the SB thread show up on the Front Page with posted comments.

So today I clicked onto the thread and began reading. Then I had to go back 3 pages to get the jist of the discussion, then back 6 or 8 pages. Fascinating discussions.

This has been the most interesting read. Glad you guys are having so much fun with the chase of the SB's and wish you much success in obtaining the desired prize. Again, great read!

Varoom

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1181673]Lightning struck to find so many fine qualities in such a hot package. We met monthly for four hours. Half the time she came to me. Half the time I went to her. In the entire 2 ½ years every time was just like the first time. In love? Not on your life. If I were in love I would want to spend all my time with her. A woman around a lot, anyone around a lot, is not my thing. I have a reclusive side. I was always happy when it was time to return to our lives. I would not have fit into her life or she mine.[/QUOTE]You may be tougher than I am, Golf. I start to get involved with these girls if I see them more than a few times. What the sb / sd usasg sites have allowed me to do is to date-fuck more than one girl at a time which is what I seem to need to stay objective.

By the way, my personal belief is that the way to a woman's heart is through her vagina and if she allows you access a few times she is likely to get involved emotionally even if you don't.

Just my opinion.

Several mongers pm'd me about how I manage sb relationships. The more we share our experiences the more we will all learn. My responses to the questions may be different from others with just as much experience.

1. Do I use my real name with the babes?

No.

2. How do I handle paper trail at hotel?

I pay with a credit card that's billed online. Could this be accessed by a divorce lawyer or by leo? Probably. My focus is on avoiding legal proceedings in the first place. Several mongers recommend checking out with cash to avoid the credit card record. That may work. I wouldn't falsify a registration because I think that's illegal.

3. Do sb's try to get hooks into me and then up the ante?

One girl asked for more money each time we met. I just said sorry, no. I didn't make a big deal out of it and she didn't stop seeing me.

4. How do I disentangle from an sb?

I don't get entangled. I never let them think the relationship is anything other than temporary, even though its fun for both of us.

5. How much allowance, how often paid?

This varies a lot. I probably spend more on sb's than others (I'm lucky to be able to) because I want the girls to have a reason to want to see me instead of another guy. I can't compete with younger guys in some ways but I can in this way.

6. Do I worry an sb will rat me out to the warden?

Yes. The risk is real: a few years ago I saw a 23 year old beginner agency escort in Canada several times. I told her I was divorced. The sex got better and better but I failed to notice signs she'd started making plans for us. I kid you not. One night, she figured out how to find me and called me at home, to surprise me I guess. My wife answered. The girl was furious and totally ratted me out. Luckily, the warden thought it was a crank call. Who would think an agency escort would behave like that? But she did. So I try to avoid giving sb's personal data and I don't let them think I'm single.

[QUOTE=Literal2;1183673]Several mongers recommend checking out with cash to avoid the credit card record. That may work. I wouldn't falsify a registration because I think that's illegal.[/QUOTE]Paying cash does not mean that one would or should give false info upon registration. In fact most hotels when you pay cash will want to see an I'd, so not advisable to give false info. Most hotels that mongers are going to and paying cash know that it isn't you and your wife up in the suite, nor do they care. As long as you pay and practice quiet enjoyment of their premises. Leaving everything in tact when you depart. For the most part you aren't going to receive any mail wanting you to confirm how your stay was. They already KNOW if was GREAT.

Lit 2. Thanks for clarifying some of the rules of the SB road. Helpful and very interesting.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1179825]... she fucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. [/QUOTE]Damn I have to get me one of those.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1183882]Paying cash does not mean that one would or should give false info upon registration. In fact most hotels when you pay cash will want to see an I'd, so not advisable to give false info. Most hotels that mongers are going to and paying cash know that it isn't you and your wife up in the suite, nor do they care. As long as you pay and practice quiet enjoyment of their premises. Leaving everything in tact when you depart. For the most part you aren't going to receive any mail wanting you to confirm how your stay was. They already KNOW if was GREAT.

Lit 2. Thanks for clarifying some of the rules of the SB road. Helpful and very interesting. [/QUOTE]My experience over the last couple of years is that all of the major moderately-priced chains may send you advertising in the postal mail after you stay with them... and it's hard to talk away as "postal spam" something addressed specifically to you and saying "Thanks for your recent stay with us!" For this reason, I always give them my work address, which I can confirm with my business card. Junk mail to me there requires no explanation.

[QUOTE=Cantwinlosin;1184172]My experience over the last couple of years is that all of the major moderately-priced chains may send you advertising in the postal mail after you stay with them... and it's hard to talk away as "postal spam" something addressed specifically to you and saying "Thanks for your recent stay with us!" For this reason, I always give them my work address, which I can confirm with my business card. Junk mail to me there requires no explanation.[/QUOTE]CWL:

Have you noticed these mailing or questionaires being from any specific brand of hotel?

I based my posted opinion on 30 or more stays at hotels with 0 mail. These are typically lower end motels, Quality, Motel69, Super8, etc. Not one piece of mail to date.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1184461]CWL:

Have you noticed these mailing or questionaires being from any specific brand of hotel?

I based my posted opinion on 30 or more stays at hotels with 0 mail. These are typically lower end motels, Quality, Motel69, Super8, etc. Not one piece of mail to date. [/QUOTE]I'm talking Holiday Inn and Hi Express, Clarion, Hampton Inn, Doubletree, Courtyard and the like. I wouldn't expect spam from Motel6 or Super8. :-)

My impression was that the less expensive hotels are less likely to send you marketing stuff after a stay but I wasn't really sure. It's great to have this confirmed by experience.

I made the mistake of joining Hilton Honors years ago and can't get rid of it. I never give them my HH number when I check in, they always dig it up anyway and send me an email congratulating me on my recent stay at their hotel on such and such a date. Drives me crazy. I finally realized I can unsubscribe from their emailing list so that seems to have stopped. In any case they only have my PO Box as a mailing address (like a business address) and the credit card I use is billed online with the PO Box as the postal address.

No sb pussy for nearly a couple weeks now. I want fresh pussy. SB3 was one of my early failures. She's 29, full tits, nice butt, a little fleshy but not fat. She sent me a pic months ago of herself touching her clit. I gave her sugar and met her but she wouldn't see me alone. Recently she was email teasing me again but she's disappeared again. I won't spend any more on her until penetration but there's no reason to burn her off so I'll wait.

SB11 is a 23 year old college student, she says, very pretty, maybe a touch of Asian. She emails hot and cold. Sometimes I get 4-5 emails a day, sometimes nothing. I had a hard time getting free to set a time with her. When I did so she stopped emailing and doesn't answer her phone. I suspect she's got some other sd fucking her at the moment, so I'll wait.

SB 13 is another single momma. She says she's 24. Her pix show she's got a little extra padding but not much and a cute face. She wants to meet, so I suggested a hotel. She wants a public meeting first. I've suggested a quick coffee or soft drink at a lunch counter. I'll try to call her later today. This girl is in the "maybe I'll get to fuck her" category.

SB14 is a 30-year old waitress or barmaid I think. 5'4 and 120 lbs she says. Face is cute enough. She said she'd meet Thursday in a hotel so I've sent her the address and time. We shall see what happens. This one is in the "I think I'm going to fuck her in a couple days" category.

SB15 is a blond 25 year old and attached, she says. Haven't seen this kind before. She has hot pix. She seems very confident about herself and the sb / sd process. I suspect she knows what she is doing and I'm sure she has a hundred guys hitting on her. She says she wants to meet for lunch and talk about a sb / sd relationship. I'm trying to arrange something. I put this one in the "it will cost me a lot to fuck this girl" category. We will see.

Saw the hot blonde stripper again, and it will be the last. Flaky, drinks too much, too much attitude, and the final straw is she doesn't catch.

Met a new SB over the weekend. 24, brand new to the area from up north and originally from eastern Europe (and still has a touch of accent, which was sexy) , lovely young lady and a body to die for... but as distant and stand-offish as I've ever seen. She indicated that she's had several big-money SD's in the past including one who shelled out $7K for cosmetic surgery. She was perfectly willing to do whatever sort of relationship I wanted, but was so mercenary about it that it was a complete turn-off. Girls like that tend to be lousy, selfish fucks too. I took a pass.

Have a couple of new ones scheduled to met: SB4 is an older (early 40s) lady that may not be what I'm looking for physically but seems to have a great attitude... and attitude and experience can make up for mileage. SB5 is mid-20's and black, which is something I've avoided as my experiences with black girls in the past has been uniformly bad (attitude and constant drama) but this young lady is very attractive and seems to have her head screwed on straight, so I'm going to check her out.

Wish me luck!

Good luck to you CWL.

I wonder what the other sb mongers are doing.

OBX, Thud, Varoom, Golf, Spit, RM, Cool: What're you mongers up to?

As for me, SB13 says we'll meet for coffee Friday and SB 14 says she'll see me at the hotel Thursday. The woman's vagina will be penetrated. Fresh UTR pussy coming up! I love it!

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1186918]Good luck to you CWL.

I wonder what the other sb mongers are doing.

OBX, Thud, Varoom, Golf, Spit, RM, Cool: What're you mongers up to?

As for me, SB13 says we'll meet for coffee Friday and SB 14 says she'll see me at the hotel Thursday. The woman's vagina will be penetrated. Fresh UTR pussy coming up! I love it! [/QUOTE]Glad to be mentioned among the group here but I am really just spectating for the most part. Trying to decide if the SB / SD motiff fits into my my repertoire. I have been following this thread closely and have also registered on the sbforme website. Most of what I have received from them is spam and responses from gals that do not fit my profile at all. Also quite a few that are listed on the website are known providers to me, either by personal visit or having seen their ads in the past.

So Varoom is highly amused and interested by the prospects of the SB / SD thing, but for the time being am just seeing well reviewed providers with my mongering. From my perspective it seems that the SB / SD thing requires much cultivation of the SB's in order to result into penetration, as Lit2 refers to it. Not sure whether I will pursue this further or not, but still under consideration for the time being. But know that I will continue to follow the thread with great interest as I evaluate the prospects of fitting this into my activities.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1186918]Good luck to you CWL.

I wonder what the other sb mongers are doing.

OBX, Thud, Varoom, Golf, Spit, RM, Cool: What're you mongers up to?

As for me, SB13 says we'll meet for coffee Friday and SB 14 says she'll see me at the hotel Thursday. The woman's vagina will be penetrated. Fresh UTR pussy coming up! I love it! [/QUOTE]I saw all these postings on the progress, and I am impressed. I wonder if I am doing something wrong. I have been in the game for one month and still have no bite. Might have to officially drop out of the game. All I got were people from CA and way far to even visit. No luck on any local girls yet. Hell, that's tougher than getting a million dollar government contract.

I met with a potential SB last night for a meet and greet. I'll call her SSB3. She had a SD before and recently moved out of her BF's apartment and is now on her own. She models on the side and sent some of her modeling shots to me so I was encouraged.

But I have to say when I met her in person I was disappointed. I have a thing about teeth and hers were sort of gray and dingy looking. Her body was not also as toned as in the pictures. I was thinking perhaps she had recently had a baby or something, but she says not. I might have to pass or keep her around for emergency purposes. She's looking for a long term arrangement so she might not be open to being a part timer or second teamer.

[QUOTE=Richmond Mas;1186943]I saw all these postings on the progress, and I am impressed. I wonder if I am doing something wrong. I have been in the game for one month and still have no bite. Might have to officially drop out of the game. All I got were people from CA and way far to even visit. No luck on any local girls yet. Hell, that's tougher than getting a million dollar government contract.[/QUOTE]What site are you using? If you google seeking arrangement, that's the one I have the most luck with. Maybe try re-writing your ad and seeing if that helps?

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1186918]I wonder what the other sb mongers are doing.

OBX, Thud, Varoom, Golf, Spit, RM, Cool: What're you mongers up to?

As for me, SB13 says we'll meet for coffee Friday and SB 14 says she'll see me at the hotel Thursday. The woman's vagina will be penetrated. Fresh UTR pussy coming up! I love it! [/QUOTE]I'm still plugging away. I'm continuing to make contacts but I'm having no luck in closing the deal. I had another no-show last week. I've got two 20 somethings I'm emailing back and forth with. One of them I talked to within the last hour. They both seem somewhat ambivalent about what a SB / SD relationship really is. They want financial help; they need financial help but are struggling with the straight forward nature of the transaction. I have tried to soften my approach (based on Lit's advice) and that does seem to allow me to remain in touch. The fact is I don't want a email buddy, I want pussy! I'm still amazed that women sign up for the sight but don't seem to realized what they have signed up for. Maybe I should focus on the 40 somethings.

I'm going to hang in there but a good straight forward provider is looking pretty good right now.