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Twelve Thai nationals and five Americans were charged with illegally transporting hundreds of women from Thailand and forcing them into prostitution in Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and other cities.
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/1103161/us-charges-17-in-sex-trafficking-ring[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3101208]Twelve Thai nationals and five Americans were charged with illegally transporting hundreds of women from Thailand and forcing them into prostitution in Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and other cities.
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/1103161/us-charges-17-in-sex-trafficking-ring[/URL][/QUOTE]Force, coercion and holding on to all the cash: those are signs of real traffickers who need to be stopped and put away for a long time. Now if only LEO would focus on those cases and leave the voluntary businesswomen alone!
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3101208]Twelve Thai nationals and five Americans were charged with illegally transporting hundreds of women from Thailand and forcing them into prostitution in Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and other cities.
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/1103161/us-charges-17-in-sex-trafficking-ring[/URL][/QUOTE]Several years ago, I was a regular visitor, on business to this land of gentle kind people. And yet, there is a dark side. I preferred Pattaya to Bangkok. Was there many years ago, when it was a beautiful beach with lots of talent walking around. Over the years it just kept sinking into the heavy sex trade. There were lots of go-go added as the years moved toward the 90's and the new century. Late 90's in one of the dance clubs (sucking a brew) noticed a very young girl, no more than twelve, maybe even less, sitting at one of the upper tables with a couple of bar girls. I started to ask about her and was told in no uncertain terms she was brand new. It was her second day in Pattaya. Seems, she was from northern Thailand and had been brought her by her family that were famers. We continued the conversation about what was going to happen to her. The manger had paid a nice price to bring the girl south and the plan was to work her for a period of time within the dance club, teach her the best way to service gentlemen. Then sell her virginity to the highest bidder. When asked how much would be the top bid, she said something on the order of 250 k to 300 k baht, roughly +/- $8000 US. How soon would that happen six months to a year. She then pointed out three other very young girls working as bar maids. Several months later, she was a bar maid and the Mama-son asked if I was interested. "Sorry, I would not even consider it. ".
[QUOTE=CoupleOfInches;3101410]Several years ago, I was a regular visitor, on business to this land of gentle kind people. And yet, there is a dark side. I preferred Pattaya to Bangkok. Was there many years ago, when it was a beautiful beach with lots of talent walking around. Over the years it just kept sinking into the heavy sex trade. There were lots of go-go added as the years moved toward the 90's and the new century. Late 90's in one of the dance clubs (sucking a brew) noticed a very young girl, no more than twelve, maybe even less, sitting at one of the upper tables with a couple of bar girls. I started to ask about her and was told in no uncertain terms she was brand new. It was her second day in Pattaya. Seems, she was from northern Thailand and had been brought her by her family that were famers. We continued the conversation about what was going to happen to her. The manger had paid a nice price to bring the girl south and the plan was to work her for a period of time within the dance club, teach her the best way to service gentlemen. Then sell her virginity to the highest bidder. When asked how much would be the top bid, she said something on the order of 250 k to 300 k baht, roughly +/- $8000 US. How soon would that happen six months to a year. She then pointed out three other very young girls working as bar maids. Several months later, she was a bar maid and the Mama-son asked if I was interested. "Sorry, I would not even consider it. ".[/QUOTE]Although this particular article references Thailand, you can find the problem all over the globe. For example, a Google search for sex trafficking in Europe will bring up many sordid stories.
The point I was trying to make in my post is that there are plenty of foreign-born providers, Thai, Chinese, Korean, Latina, European (etc.) who are working in the hobby on 100% voluntary basis. When LE uses the pretext of "trafficking" to go after them it detracts and diverts resources from the real thing.
[URL]http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Paxton-to-Hold-News-Conference-About-Human-Trafficking-396213311.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3102985][URL]http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Paxton-to-Hold-News-Conference-About-Human-Trafficking-396213311.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand[/URL][/QUOTE]I mean really, is it against the law to advertise escort services? I'm aware of this sites (seldom used in our area) classified ad page however, with no BP where do we go!! Oh the madness!!
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3102985][URL]http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Paxton-to-Hold-News-Conference-About-Human-Trafficking-396213311.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand[/URL][/QUOTE]In reading through the affidavit, it seems to me the gist of the prosecution's argument is that prostitution is facilitated by BP, and the CEO makes money from BP, so therefore the CEO is guilty of acting as a pimp for specific, individual escorts. Also, since some of those escorts were minors, additional charges can be tacked on.
One defense against that argument is that BP is nothing more than an online marketplace, like CL or FB or many other different sites, and all the CEO is responsible for is having some kind of reasonable screening process to try to filter out illegal activity and especially any sex-related activity by minors. While it's possible to argue that BP's processes didn't do a good job, that's not the same as the CEO having direct knowledge of individual acts of prostitution and intending to profit from them.
It's also interesting that this case is being brought under California law, not federal. Makes you think they must have had concerns they wouldn't be able to make Fed charges stick. Since BP's activities cross over state and national borders, I have a hard time believing the Feds wouldn't want a piece of this if they thought it had a decent chance of success. Just the sheer amount of fines and forfeiture they could get out of BP's worldwide operations would seem to make it worth it.
Lots of potential twists and turns and, while I don't know all the facts, I certainly hope BP hires some great lawyers and sticks this case right back down CA's throat.
[QUOTE=CowboyWilson;3103053]I mean really, is it against the law to advertise escort services? I'm aware of this sites (seldom used in our area) classified ad page however, with no BP where do we go!! Oh the madness!![/QUOTE]It's too lucrative. One possible scenario is for it to move operations to areas outside US jurisdiction, maybe even changing the business name. But I don't think the personal charges against the CEO will automatically cause the site to shut down. There would probably have to be a separate legal action filed to try to accomplish that. And that legal action could (and would) be challenged in the courts.
It won't be easy, straightforward or inexpensive, but let's hope BP puts up a good fight and wins!
So we have a state attorney general, currently seeking higher office, who's decided to make a name for herself a month ahead of the general election. Whether this tactic will succeed remains to be seen. In the meantime the defendants will have to spend some serious money hiring lawyers to defend themselves. Aside from some pretty obvious First Amendment issues, I really wonder if the charges can possibly stick. In addition, will this case be a priority for the next state attorney general should the incumbent's Senate campaign be successful?
I hope a judge laughs this case out of court. However, far too many judges legislate from the bench these days rather than interpret the law and constitution, so it's too early to predict how this will play out.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3103078]It's too lucrative. One possible scenario is for it to move operations to areas outside US jurisdiction, maybe even changing the business name. But I don't think the personal charges against the CEO will automatically cause the site to shut down. There would probably have to be a separate legal action filed to try to accomplish that. And that legal action could (and would) be challenged in the courts.
It won't be easy, straightforward or inexpensive, but let's hope BP puts up a good fight and wins![/QUOTE]Just as Backpage became the top site for escort ads once Craigslist discontinued its adult services section, I'm sure some other site would step forward should Backpage get shut down or agrees to get out of the escort ads business. Those ads won't go away; they'll simply move elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3102985][URL]http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Paxton-to-Hold-News-Conference-About-Human-Trafficking-396213311.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3103066]It's also interesting that this case is being brought under California law, not federal. Makes you think they must have had concerns they wouldn't be able to make Fed charges stick. Since BP's activities cross over state and national borders, I have a hard time believing the Feds wouldn't want a piece of this if they thought it had a decent chance of success. Just the sheer amount of fines and forfeiture they could get out of BP's worldwide operations would seem to make it worth it.[/QUOTE]My guess is that the expansive list of charges is an effort to obtain BP's records and server information. Making the charge of pimping (and child pimping) stick will be an uphill battle for the California authorities, so there might be thoughts of plea bargaining. I truly hope the BP execs win this big time or, better, that an impartial judge throws the case out of court [U]with prejudice[/U].
A couple additional thoughts and observations:
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(1) Had this been a federal case, it would likely have subordinated the California case until completion or resolution of the federal case. Trying the matter under California law first will still enable the feds to come in at a later point and, of course, bring all of its resources to bear on the defendants. (The effect if this is greater financial hardship for the defendants.)
(2) The fact that the case was brought under California law, rather than federal law, suggests some behind-the-scenes coordination between the Feds and the California authorities.
(3) As JmSuttr has already suggested, don't discount the money angle of this action.
(4) Even if the California action, and any subsequent federal action, is ultimately unsuccessful, there is probably the hope or expectation of putting a crimp in BP's operations, temporarily or permanently.
(5) Like LEO "street sweep" actions to round up prostitutes and clean up an existing stroll, this action (if successful) will simply cause BP operations to move outside the country.
(6) This is the action of a lazy and/or incompetent AG and authorities, who cannot seem to put a crimp in the source of under-age or "trafficked" individuals. (There [u]is[/u] a way to clamp down on trafficking, but that involves better border enforcement, something the current administration and even California are none to keen about.)
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[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;3103220]My guess is that the expansive list of charges is an effort to obtain BP's records and server information. Making the charge of pimping (and child pimping) stick will be an uphill battle for the California authorities, so there might be thoughts of plea bargaining. I truly hope the BP execs win this big time or, better, that an impartial judge throws the case out of court [U]with prejudice[/U].
A couple additional thoughts and observations:
[INDENT]
(1) Had this been a federal case, it would likely have subordinated the California case until completion or resolution of the federal case. Trying the matter under California law first will still enable the feds to come in at a later point and, of course, bring all of its resources to bear on the defendants. (The effect if this is greater financial hardship for the defendants.)
(2) The fact that the case was brought under California law, rather than federal law, suggests some behind-the-scenes coordination between the Feds and the California authorities.
(3) As JmSuttr has already suggested, don't discount the money angle of this action.
(4) Even if the California action, and any subsequent federal action, is ultimately unsuccessful, there is probably the hope or expectation of putting a crimp in BP's operations, temporarily or permanently.
(5) Like LEO "street sweep" actions to round up prostitutes and clean up an existing stroll, this action (if successful) will simply cause BP operations to move outside the country.
(6) This is the action of a lazy and/or incompetent AG and authorities, who cannot seem to put a crimp in the source of under-age or "trafficked" individuals. (There [u]is[/u] a way to clamp down on trafficking, but that involves better border enforcement, something the current administration and even California are none to keen about.)
[/INDENT][/QUOTE]Feds go after cases they expect to win, and when they have the evidence to support a conviction. They do not want to tarnish their 90+ percent conviction rate and lose the confidence of the masses. What I could see the Feds possibly doing is going after the company itself and not individuals.
[QUOTE=Miketastic69;3103488]Feds go after cases they expect to win, and when they have the evidence to support a conviction. They do not want to tarnish their 90+ percent conviction rate and lose the confidence of the masses. What I could see the Feds possibly doing is going after the company itself and not individuals.[/QUOTE]The courts have already decided that the owners of a forum are not responsible for what gets posted on the forum. Rather, it is the responsibility of the person who posted it.
It sounds like Backpage has plenty of money to defend these type of cases. The cost of defending themselves from lawsuits should be baked into their business plan. If it is not, they need to rewrite their business plan. Defending free speech is not cheap.
Perhaps Backpage could do a better job in enforcing their rules. Currently, they just ask their users / viewers to "Please report the suspected sexual exploitation of minors and / or human trafficking to the appropriate authorities" and to email [EMAIL]abuse@backpage.com[/EMAIL]. Perhaps they could do more to clean up "Inappropriate or Illegal Content". But, it is up the the prosecutors to prove that Backpage is willfully negligent.
[QUOTE=Jones73;3103667]The courts have already decided that the owners of a forum are not responsible for what gets posted on the forum. Rather, it is the responsibility of the person who posted it.
It sounds like Backpage has plenty of money to defend these type of cases. The cost of defending themselves from lawsuits should be baked into their business plan. If it is not, they need to rewrite their business plan. Defending free speech is not cheap.
Perhaps Backpage could do a better job in enforcing their rules. Currently, they just ask their users / viewers to "Please report the suspected sexual exploitation of minors and / or human trafficking to the appropriate authorities" and to email [EMAIL]abuse@backpage.com[/EMAIL]. Perhaps they could do more to clean up "Inappropriate or Illegal Content". But, it is up the the prosecutors to prove that Backpage is willfully negligent.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-16/can-prosecutors-stop-child-sex-trafficking-without-breaking-the-internet[/URL]
Good explanation about how the Communications Decency Act applies and also about past and current cases. Pretty even-handed info, IMHO, and lays out a pretty good argument for why BP may win.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3151764][URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-16/can-prosecutors-stop-child-sex-trafficking-without-breaking-the-internet[/URL]
Good explanation about how the Communications Decency Act applies and also about past and current cases. Pretty even-handed info, IMHO, and lays out a pretty good argument for why BP may win.[/QUOTE][URL]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BACKPAGE_SEX_TRAFFICKING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-16-13-52-57[/URL]
Judicial (preliminary) ruling favoring BP.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3152065][URL]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BACKPAGE_SEX_TRAFFICKING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-16-13-52-57[/URL]
Judicial (preliminary) ruling favoring BP.[/QUOTE]I find this story encouraging, but the judge agreed to give California's attorney general more time to make her case. I hope he tells her to go take a hike.
If the judge upholds his initial ruling, I have to wonder if the attorney general will seek to change federal law once she moves to the United States Senate. She won last week's election.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3154075]I find this story encouraging, but the judge agreed to give California's attorney general more time to make her case. I hope he tells her to go take a hike.
If the judge upholds his initial ruling, I have to wonder if the attorney general will seek to change federal law once she moves to the United States Senate. She won last week's election.[/QUOTE]In some court cases the judge makes a ruling where the issues raised are a bit of a surprise and may not have been fully discussed or argued. But in this case it's always been clear that the Communications Decency Act was going to be the centerpiece of BP's defense. While I haven't read all of the documents in the case, I'd be very surprised if the AG hasn't already thrown her best arguments out there. And if those didn't persuade the judge, I doubt repackaging and recycling them is going to make any difference. For the sake of fairness the judge will give them a chance to respond but, IMHO, their case is on life support and it's only a matter of time before the plug is pulled.
As for her election to the Senate, she'll have even less influence as a single junior senator than she did as AG of CA. And, while nobody was willing to specifically defend BP, changing a federal law that protects companies like Google and FB will most likely turn out to be a pretty fruitless endeavor.
FWIW, my prediction is that the judge will rule in favor of BP and against CA. And, if a state as big and powerful as CA can't get it done, my guess is other authorities will back off. And if BP is smart, they'll learn some lessons from this and make even more adjustments to their ad reporting and review process to avoid anything that could possibly be related to trafficking.
From the PWC website. Security cam pics on the website (in case you ever wondered how good they are).
Abduction.
Assault & Battery – On December 4th at 3:06 PM, officers responded to ZY Massage located at 2578 Dynasty Loop in Woodbridge (22193) to investigate an assault. The victim, later identified as a 44 year-old-woman of Woodbridge, reported to police that at approximately 10:00 AM that day, an unknown man entered the business and asked to use the restroom. While the subject was exiting the business, he requested a hug from the victim which was declined. The subject then left the store but returned after a short period of time. When the subject reentered the business, he locked the door with the victim inside, preventing her from leaving. A struggled ensued between the two and the subject assaulted the victim, causing minor injuries. The victim was able to break free from the subject and ran from the business. The subject also exited the business and was last seen on foot walking towards Telegraph Rd. The investigation continues and more information will be released once it is made available. Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call police at 703-792-6500.
The suspect is described as a Black male, 23-27 years of age, 6'0', and 180 lbs. He also has dark hair with a dark colored unshaven beard and mustache. He was last seen wearing blue jeans with a skull on the back right pocket, a black shirt with "Blackwatch" written on the front, a gray New York Yankees hat, and dark colored shoes.
Very clear photos have led to identification of the guy, though he hasn't been located and arrested the last I heard.
[QUOTE=Backrub321;3174843]From the PWC website. Security cam pics on the website (in case you ever wondered how good they are).
Abduction.
Assault & Battery On December 4th at 3:06 PM, officers responded to ZY Massage located at 2578 Dynasty Loop in Woodbridge (22193) to investigate an assault. The victim, later identified as a 44 year-old-woman of Woodbridge, reported to police that at approximately 10:00 AM that day, an unknown man entered the business and asked to use the restroom. While the subject was exiting the business, he requested a hug from the victim which was declined. The subject then left the store but returned after a short period of time. When the subject reentered the business, he locked the door with the victim inside, preventing her from leaving. A struggled ensued between the two and the subject assaulted the victim, causing minor injuries. The victim was able to break free from the subject and ran from the business. The subject also exited the business and was last seen on foot walking towards Telegraph Rd. The investigation continues and more information will be released once it is made available. Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call police at 703-792-6500.
The suspect is described as a Black male, 23-27 years of age, 6'0', and 180 lbs. He also has dark hair with a dark colored unshaven beard and mustache. He was last seen wearing blue jeans with a skull on the back right pocket, a black shirt with "Blackwatch" written on the front, a gray New York Yankees hat, and dark colored shoes.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.therecorder.com/id=1202774419462/Charges-Dismissed-in-Online-Brothel-Case-Against-Backpagecom-Execs?slreturn=20161110002908[/URL]
While the state of CA can appeal the judgment, the higher court generally only looks at whether the trial judge made an error of law and they usually give the lower court the benefit of the doubt.
So, while it's not completely over, it's certainly not looking good for CA.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3181732][URL]http://www.therecorder.com/id=1202774419462/Charges-Dismissed-in-Online-Brothel-Case-Against-Backpagecom-Execs?slreturn=20161110002908[/URL]
While the state of CA can appeal the judgment, the higher court generally only looks at whether the trial judge made an error of law and they usually give the lower court the benefit of the doubt.
So, while it's not completely over, it's certainly not looking good for CA.[/QUOTE]This is good news, at least for now. I hope the United States Senate has better things to do than consider any changes to the Communications Decency Act which may be proposed by Senator-elect Kamala Harris once she take office next month.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3181739]This is good news, at least for now. I hope the United States Senate has better things to do than consider any changes to the Communications Decency Act which may be proposed by Senator-elect Kamala Harris once she take office next month.[/QUOTE]As the AG of CA, she was a legitimate big fish. As a junior senator of the minority party, without any committee chairmanships or seniority, her power is greatly diminished (if not almost nonexistent).
She can propose changes but those would have to get through a hostile committee and general Senate environment. And not only is she facing an uphill battle on those fronts but all the internet businesses (Google, Facebook, etc.) who would feel threatened by a harsher CDA would be actively working against her.
Of course it's not finally over yet, but she's shot her best wad and the window of opportunity is rapidly closing.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3181761]As the AG of CA, she was a legitimate big fish. As a junior senator of the minority party, without any committee chairmanships or seniority, her power is greatly diminished (if not almost nonexistent).
She can propose changes but those would have to get through a hostile committee and general Senate environment. And not only is she facing an uphill battle on those fronts but all the internet businesses (Google, Facebook, etc.) who would feel threatened by a harsher CDA would be actively working against her.
Of course it's not finally over yet, but she's shot her best wad and the window of opportunity is rapidly closing.[/QUOTE]No one is going to listen to valley girl kamala.
Ms. Harris got kicked upstairs. Bigger paycheck, more prestige, better pension, but virtually ZERO real power. Nothing gets done in the Senate that Mr. McConnell does not support / allow.
About all she can do in her new role is make speeches from her desk on the Senate floor. She has been neutered. Or I guess in her case, spayed.
On a more personal note, she will have more people around her to kiss her ass and stroke her ego. But it is ironic that as a senator she actually has less raw power than before. (BTW, that is why you see senators who have any sense leave DC to go home and run for governor instead.).
Fun times.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3181761]As the AG of CA, she was a legitimate big fish. As a junior senator of the minority party, without any committee chairmanships or seniority, her power is greatly diminished (if not almost nonexistent).
She can propose changes but those would have to get through a hostile committee and general Senate environment. And not only is she facing an uphill battle on those fronts but all the internet businesses (Google, Facebook, etc.) who would feel threatened by a harsher CDA would be actively working against her.
Of course it's not finally over yet, but she's shot her best wad and the window of opportunity is rapidly closing.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if you have seen this or not. -.
[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-case[/URL]
[QUOTE=BayouJ;3187908]Not sure if you have seen this or not. -.
[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12-more-charges-in-trb-prostitution-case[/URL][/QUOTE]How are they catching these so called criminals? Are they getting real email addresses and phone numbers? How could they prove that any of them actually ever saw any of the women? I think Pamela Anderson is a fine ass ***** and is worth every penny if she was out there providing. Does that statement mean that I am promoting prostitution and human trafficking? No way. In criminal law there is a term called Mens Rea, which means criminal intent. How can the defense lawyers allow this to go on? I see online comments everyday where one group hates and wants to kill another (whether it race, politics, or religion). So, how can my comments about a fine ass woman be prosecuted more quickly than someone who wants to kill me because I'm white, or black or jewish? I just don't understand how this is happening and it seems to fail the legality 101 test:
1. Criminal intent.
2. Act (or conspiracy).
3. Proof.
I'm probably missing a lot of other tests, but I am guessing the success for them comes from guys pleading out rather than face public trial. If someone does go to trial and it gets fully into the State Court System, a lot of these "wins" will be overturned and someone will end up with egg on their face.
Looks like it is blocked for the time being.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;3223174]Looks like it is blocked for the time being.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/09/backpage-shutters-u-s-escort-ads-after-senate-report/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/report-child-sex-ads-pushed-through-backpage-com/S4YvjMPv19wODPuCzE3SoI/[/URL]
The way I read these articles, BP isn't actually being blocked by the govt but rather it seems like this is their way of protesting against a report coming out of the US Senate as well as ongoing hearings.
Maybe they're trying to make an impact by temporarily shutting down all the adult ads? If that's the case, not sure how long this "ad strike" will continue. One thing's for sure, all the philandering politicians on Capitol Hill will have to find another source for their pussy!
[URL]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-backpage-shutdown-20170109-story.html[/URL]
Backpage shut down its adult section like Craigslist.
But it was deadman walking as most providers were moving to.
******.
Instagram.
Snapchat.
It's a new game out here.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3223371][URL]http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/09/backpage-shutters-u-s-escort-ads-after-senate-report/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/report-child-sex-ads-pushed-through-backpage-com/S4YvjMPv19wODPuCzE3SoI/[/URL]
The way I read these articles, BP isn't actually being blocked by the govt but rather it seems like this is their way of protesting against a report coming out of the US Senate as well as ongoing hearings.
Maybe they're trying to make an impact by temporarily shutting down all the adult ads? If that's the case, not sure how long this "ad strike" will continue. One thing's for sure, all the philandering politicians on Capitol Hill will have to find another source for their pussy![/QUOTE]They may not be able to find answers to America's problems, but they can always find rented pussy.
The AMPs are advertising under Massage in the Services.
Section.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3223371][URL]http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/09/backpage-shutters-u-s-escort-ads-after-senate-report/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/report-child-sex-ads-pushed-through-backpage-com/S4YvjMPv19wODPuCzE3SoI/[/URL]
The way I read these articles, BP isn't actually being blocked by the govt but rather it seems like this is their way of protesting against a report coming out of the US Senate as well as ongoing hearings.
Maybe they're trying to make an impact by temporarily shutting down all the adult ads? If that's the case, not sure how long this "ad strike" will continue. One thing's for sure, all the philandering politicians on Capitol Hill will have to find another source for their pussy![/QUOTE]BP may have acted voluntarily, but for now the government censors have won. It remains to be seen if their victory is permanent.
Of course, this will also stop Uncle LEO from using BP to run sting operations targeting mongers. I wonder if the powers that be thought about that as they were gloating over the BP shutdown.
In case anyone is interested.
[URL]http://sharedhope.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/PSIReport.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3227320]In case anyone is interested.
[URL]http://sharedhope.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/PSIReport.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like the staff and the Committee did a lot of research on the job. They probably had fun doing it on Government time from their desks. Wonder how much field work they did?
I don't know how much human trafficking actually takes place, but my carpenter said all the girls he knows do the sex game because it is profitable, and an easy life and they enjoy it. Maybe there is a segment that he does not see or he is naive? He said most are more honest, down to earth and straight forward and have more integrity than his x-wife. Many are professional business persons. I certainly don't endorse any human trafficking, but he said there are a lot of nice gals he has met that it hurts no one, and it has helped him be a better person!
DC.
[URL]http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/florida-woman-arrested-for-prostitution-undercover-sting/EN5vfOa4V0lOpiFnsMcO5N/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BlackCoffee;3229166][URL]http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/florida-woman-arrested-for-prostitution-undercover-sting/EN5vfOa4V0lOpiFnsMcO5N/[/URL][/QUOTE]In a few years she will be ready for NOVA.
I'm of the opinion that the BP adult section shutdown is a temporary protest and they will bring it back online at some point.
Of course I could be 100% wrong, but I'll throw it out there that my call for a restart would be somewhere during the weekend right after the prez inauguration (Jan 21 or 22).
Anybody else want to make a call on possible timing? Also, for those who think the shutdown is permanent, why do you think BP hasn't simply scrubbed all the adult categories completely off their site instead of leaving them on there, but with prominent "censored" markings?
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3231530]I'm of the opinion that the BP adult section shutdown is a temporary protest and they will bring it back online at some point.
Of course I could be 100% wrong, but I'll throw it out there that my call for a restart would be somewhere during the weekend right after the prez inauguration (Jan 21 or 22).
Anybody else want to make a call on possible timing? Also, for those who think the shutdown is permanent, why do you think BP hasn't simply scrubbed all the adult categories completely off their site instead of leaving them on there, but with prominent "censored" markings?[/QUOTE]Last weekend of the month or first of February. No later than Groundhog Day. I don't want my dick to see its shadow and crawl back in for another 6 weeks.
[QUOTE=JimRob;3229963]In a few years she will be ready for NOVA.[/QUOTE]Nova mongers will still pay her top notch for a standard nova.
So 70 must be the new 50! Ha!!
Honestly, I would not walk out on her if she came in to the room to be my "girl. " She probably has a few tricks up her sleeve that the young gals don't know about yet. And besides, Asians usually look younger than their years. Especially in a low, dimly lit room. As long as she has nice hands.
Now if it is full service, that might be a different story. I wonder if she is still up for asian cowgirl? Maybe after a knee replacement. And she would have to buy lube by the barrel! Ha Ha!!
[QUOTE=JimRob;3229963]In a few years she will be ready for NOVA.[/QUOTE]
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