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That's quite a sting!
Definitely a few there I would see.
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That's quite a sting!
Definitely a few there I would see.
[QUOTE=Otwist]Also seen on BP ads that were arrested:
1. Tammy [blue][Names deleted by Admin][/blue]
2. Stacha [blue][Names deleted by Admin][/blue] Rose/MS Pleasure
Anybody recognize any of the others?[/QUOTE]I have a feeling that another one of our forum members (female) is also in that list. Age and face are pretty close. Don't want to name names though because I could be wrong.
So this is not a felony and it happened in Polk Co. What does this mean to the ladies here other than an embarrasing moment and a fine? Will this have any effect on them up here? Will they be in any more jeopardy if they continue to work in Florida or is this just a one county shake down?
If I have thought about seeing one of those sw in the past and sent e mail or they have my phone number is there going to be issues now?
[QUOTE=Grand Piano]So this is not a felony and it happened in Polk Co. What does this mean to the ladies here other than an embarrasing moment and a fine? Will this have any effect on them up here? Will they be in any more jeopardy if they continue to work in Florida or is this just a one county shake down? [/QUOTE] Unfortunately, a 3rd offense in Florida is a Felony. With the way the Polk county Sheriff described the investigation, it looks like they plan to target the owners of CL for profiting from illegal activity. These actions didn't go anywhere in Illinois, other than CL beginning to charge and monitor the Adult Services section. My advice, stick with a provider that you know is the REAL DEAL. Sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures, and often prosecutors will cut deals on these charges in exchange for information on other providers, as well as hobbyists, and other sites that the provider may use as a means of advertisement.
If some of you guys take the time to goggle some names of this weeks' busted working girls it will make you shudder. It seems, as suspected, some have extensive rap sheets and open cases. Not sayin that they would use inside info to f**k any of you guys up but who knows. We all know the cop business, " help me to help you'', just bare some of these factors in mind in the midst of your hobbying and travels.
[QUOTE=Jenna Divyne]Unfortunately, a 3rd offense in Florida is a Felony. With the way the Polk county Sheriff described the investigation, it looks like they plan to target the owners of CL for profiting from illegal activity. These actions didn't go anywhere in Illinois, other than CL beginning to charge and monitor the Adult Services section. My advice, stick with a provider that you know is the REAL DEAL. Sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures, and often prosecutors will cut deals on these charges in exchange for information on other providers, as well as hobbyists, and other sites that the provider may use as a means of advertisement.[/QUOTE]I'm more of the opinion that this is just a blip on the radar. If you look most (those without outstanding warrants) were out in a matter of hours. This is a cost of doing business. And the risks remain exactly the same as they were before the sting. For most it will be business as usual and you will continue to see their postings on the usual sites.
[QUOTE=Coaster G]I saw Tinaa a few months back and she was great. Very inviting, fun and makes you feel comfortable. And she does a great job otherwise as well.[/QUOTE]My very first provider experience and a real sweetheart.
[QUOTE=Flman14]If I have thought about seeing one of those sw in the past and sent e mail or they have my phone number is there going to be issues now?[/QUOTE]NO, you will not!
That was very rude.
[QUOTE=Goddess]That was very rude.[/QUOTE]
He was just being honest.
[QUOTE=BuckyBuck]Yep, and now she cant fib about her age anymore.[/QUOTE]
She posted on BP today and her age was still 31.
[QUOTE=Phatpistol]She posted on BP today and her age was still 31.[/QUOTE]
She still looks pretty good and has many excellent reviews. Does 4 years matter that much? So I ask again, is this the appropriate time to bash her? Can't the bashing be directed to where it deserves to be: LE, politicians, media and busy body conservatives?
[QUOTE=Phatpistol]He was just being honest.[/QUOTE]Thank you. To those who thought it was rude, I think its rude to conduct false advertising. And for some of you senior guys, you'll remember the time she made a fuss about her age when someone else made a point about it before. I'm not kicking her or saying she's a bad provider, she's got plenty of reviews to say otherwise. Quit trying to read between the lines.
[QUOTE=BuckyBuck]Thank you. To those who thought it was rude, I think its rude to conduct false advertising. And for some of you senior guys, you'll remember the time she made a fuss about her age when someone else made a point about it before. I'm not kicking her or saying she's a bad provider, she's got plenty of reviews to say otherwise. Quit trying to read between the lines.[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen that like to see 30+ providers are looking for different things in a woman than those guys who like their ladies young. A few years shaved off their actual age, is not a big deal. If a 30+ provider is claiming to be a teenage spinner, now that is false advertising. That is something that needs to be reported on.
What you are doing is spiteful and with the worst possible timing.
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
The remark was made in a negative light at a time when a provider is going through a hard time. It is bad enough to be caught up in a negative media spotlight. I don't think anyone uses their exact legal info. Ladies use stage names, slighty change their age. We don't post exact locations.
This is all a safety net.
[QUOTE=Goddess]It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
The remark was made in a negative light at a time when a provider is going through a hard time. It is bad enough to be caught up in a negative media spotlight. I don't think anyone uses their exact legal info. Ladies use stage names, slighty change their age. We don't post exact locations.
This is all a safety net.[/QUOTE]What about the ads that say all the lovely things about the wonderful passionate experience we will have then we get a bored HJBJ and get pushed out the door. Can"t we get some legislation thru Congress defining the legal terms of what is advertised versus what is delivered, No offense to Goddess who Does deliver! I'l vouch for you,girl.
[QUOTE=Goddess]It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
The remark was made in a negative light at a time when a provider is going through a hard time. It is bad enough to be caught up in a negative media spotlight. I don't think anyone uses their exact legal info. Ladies use stage names, slighty change their age. We don't post exact locations.
This is all a safety net.[/QUOTE]What you said, I have no problem with. The only reason I even brought it up was a past post in a different thread. Got no problems with changing names and locations, or a couple years. You think I use my real name?
I have spoke to tinaa; she is fine. The phone number is the same; she is still at her apt. She could use a few white knights to help her out; she needs a cord for hewlett packard laptop..- she is safe and at her old place! She says it is good to know that people in the community care. And hopes to hear from you realll soon!
407 238 4588
Ps she will no longer be doing out-call!
Bucky could be a cute name, LOL.
It is a buyers market lol.
As is any buyers market their are those who advantage and those who take advantage. Risk is associated with those supplying and those demanding. Just as the ladies do, men should also do their due dilligence in researching the person their investing time with.
And thank you for your sweet compliments.
[QUOTE=Goddess]It is a buyers market lol.
As is any buyers market their are those who advantage and those who take advantage. Risk is associated with those supplying and those demanding. Just as the ladies do, men should also do their due dilligence in researching the person their investing time with.
And thank you for your sweet compliments.[/QUOTE]
Caveat emptor is "let the buyer beware." I agree it is indeed a buyer's market though. I have a question because I always respect the Goddess's opinion. I see some ladies advertise "special" this or "special" that. "Slow today because of football." They always say 100hh and 150hr. In my opinion that has been the non-discounted rate for some time. A special to me would be 80hh and 125 hr. Why does the "special" rate always seem to be the same as the normal rate? I'm guessing the rates I just mentioned would increase the demand in the down economy.
Just the humble opinion of one monger!
WOF
[QUOTE=Worldsoffun] I see some ladies advertise "special" this or "special" that. "Slow today because of football." They always say 100hh and 150hr. In my opinion that has been the non-discounted rate for some time. A special to me would be 80hh and 125 hr. Why does the "special" rate always seem to be the same as the normal rate? I'm guessing the rates I just mentioned would increase the demand in the down economy.
Just the humble opinion of one monger!
WOF[/QUOTE]
Q: When is a special not a special?
A: When it is not special!!!
I agree that 100/150 is the median now here. I am so low volume here I am almost non-existant LOL. I think rates depend on the provider and what they offer. In my opinion gfe is not for everyone and therefore demands a higher price. My rates on bdsm are always higher being that it is much more physically strenuous on me. Rates also vary by region, hence why I travel alot. While 80 hh brings in more customers, in my opinion. Going below 100 also brings in a differenet type of customer. This does not apply to gentlemen here, but when you run extremely low rates your clientele changes as does the danger associated. I think each female should do what she is comfortable with. I will test your rate theory and see how it goes (see classified)
Let the buyer beware applies to the bait and switches and all other risks involved with being a monger.
4 years of useless latin and I remembered a few cuss words and that LOL.
Us ladies will accept alot of negotiations. Sometimes rates, other times it may be the services we provide. If I lowered my rate, I would have 2 am calls every early morning. Fortunately, I have not had to encounter an unsafe situation, but I have received numerous phone calls that were scary. Men requesting me to come to Grant and OBT area.(NOT HAPPENING). Calls from drunks, or people wishing to "Trade" for things. I tried the 80hh route, it didn't help.
Some providers are in this business for simply the money, and for shopping or drug addictions, then you have providers such as some on this board, who do this to make ends meet and pay bills. Orlando is a tough market. I know that I have never so much difficulty paying the bills, as I have since I moved to Orlando. You absolutely get what you pay for. Obviously someone offering.30hh and.80fh is not what you want. And even 80hh. May get you one of these young girls who are either a bait and switch, a ROB or someone who has no sense of discretion.
[QUOTE=Goddess]I agree that 100/150 is the median now here. I am so low volume here I am almost non-existant LOL. I think rates depend on the provider and what they offer. In my opinion gfe is not for everyone and therefore demands a higher price. My rates on bdsm are always higher being that it is much more physically strenuous on me. Rates also vary by region, hence why I travel alot. While 80 hh brings in more customers, in my opinion. Going below 100 also brings in a differenet type of customer. This does not apply to gentlemen here, but when you run extremely low rates your clientele changes as does the danger associated. I think each female should do what she is comfortable with. I will test your rate theory and see how it goes (see classified)
Let the buyer beware applies to the bait and switches and all other risks involved with being a monger.
4 years of useless latin and I remembered a few cuss words and that LOL.[/QUOTE]
I just saw three....count 'em....three ads just posted today in the classified section with hourly rates of $120-125. I think we need to step up and send some extra business their way to show our appreciation.
WOF
[QUOTE=Goddess]I agree that 100/150 is the median now here. I am so low volume here I am almost non-existant LOL. I think rates depend on the provider and what they offer. In my opinion gfe is not for everyone and therefore demands a higher price. My rates on bdsm are always higher being that it is much more physically strenuous on me. Rates also vary by region, hence why I travel alot. While 80 hh brings in more customers, in my opinion. Going below 100 also brings in a differenet type of customer. This does not apply to gentlemen here, but when you run extremely low rates your clientele changes as does the danger associated. I think each female should do what she is comfortable with. I will test your rate theory and see how it goes (see classified)
Let the buyer beware applies to the bait and switches and all other risks involved with being a monger.
4 years of useless latin and I remembered a few cuss words and that LOL.[/QUOTE]
Once again you speak very honestly!!! I read your ad in Classifieds and saw your testing the theory before I read it hear. It maybe working I have a real tough week BUt may be ready to visit on Thursday evening. I will PM you as time gets closer!!! Keep giving the great advise!!
T (one of your many big fans!!!)
Both Goddess and Jenna make good points, that if they request a donation that is too low, they get unsavory types calling them. What I would suggest, is offering a significant discount in the ads for friends that have visited before. Say, one day a month, or every other month, 50% off for old friends.
In these tough economic times, hobbyists often have very limited recreational resources. 100 or 150 maybe something a hobbyist feels is not in the budget at this time, but if there was a blue-light special of 50% off, he might have to re-think the budget priorities.
That way the providers can keep away the riff-raff and have a better chance to stay in touch with safe regulars.
[QUOTE=Otwist]Both Goddess and Jenna make good points, that if they request a donation that is too low, they get unsavory types calling them. What I would suggest, is offering a significant discount in the ads for friends that have visited before. Say, one day a month, or every other month, 50% off for old friends.
In these tough economic times, hobbyists often have very limited recreational resources. 100 or 150 maybe something a hobbyist feels is not in the budget at this time, but if there was a blue-light special of 50% off, he might have to re-think the budget priorities.
That way the providers can keep away the riff-raff and have a better chance to stay in touch with safe regulars.[/QUOTE]
This is a great idea. We all like to feel like we are "special" especially if we have been friends previously. The hobbyists as well as the providers like to be considered as extraordinary. Not sure if I like the "blue-light" special connotation (LOL), but this is a super idea.
[QUOTE=Loving302]This is a great idea. We all like to feel like we are "special" especially if we have been friends previously. The hobbyists as well as the providers like to be considered as extraordinary. Not sure if I like the "blue-light" special connotation (LOL), but this is a super idea.[/QUOTE]
Another option is an extended visit at a good rate.
I used to see a girl who worked at a strip club in Tampa. We would meet at one of the hotels near Disney, have a nice dinner then spend the night together and most of the next day. All for a very reasonable $400. I called her my muse. She was very inspiring. Super girl in every way. Other than when we first put this "deal" together, money was never discussed.
When times are tough, it is these kind of "relationships" with regulars that will see you through.
[QUOTE=Loving302]This is a great idea. We all like to feel like we are "special" especially if we have been friends previously. The hobbyists as well as the providers like to be considered as extraordinary. Not sure if I like the "blue-light" special connotation (LOL), but this is a super idea.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what a blue light is but I do agree.
I travel alot when I am home I prefer relaxation with regulars only.
When taking new appts, there is always the anxiety and needing the references and verification.
I like gaining new friends but not at the reckless cost of losing my peace of mind.
Extended time rates are good too. I understand the thrill for men of risk+pleasure. I have outgrown the excitement of being scared to death upon initial meeting LOL.
I agree with exec I offer 4 hour dinner dates for 550 and have for a long time. I figure if you are willing to spend all that time with me the least I can do is offer a deep discount. Also I will ALWAYS work with my regulars and have always offered discounted multi hour or hour and half sessions [seeing guys like this cuts down on my turnover which is definatly safer ] Also guys the ads on some of the other sights with low rates tend to be one of 3 things a bait and switch, a girl on drugs/with manangement, or a credit card scam be careful. It's still the best route to go with providers with reviews.
I have a provider whom I have asked several times for a trip to Greece.
Said she doesn't do that.
She called me one day and said if i take the trip slow she was willing to ride along.
Bottom line is most providers are providing the trip now and she was losing accounts by not offering the trip.
She adapted to the circumstances and now her clientele is larger than ever and growing.
Not saying all providers need to offer just saying sometimes you have to adjust with the times.
P.S she found out she really enjoys it.
[QUOTE=Goddess]I'm not sure what a blue light is but I do agree.
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The blue light thing was just a joke, like a department store special. Perhaps my odd sense of humor does not always come across to everyone.
My point though, was to say a hobbyist might be willing to spend if the the special was special enough. As always, a lady can request whatever she chooses and can see whoever she likes. I was just trying to give a perspective from a hobbyist's point of view.
[QUOTE=Goddess]I'm not sure what a blue light is but I do agree.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Otwist]The blue light thing was just a joke, like a department store special. Perhaps my odd sense of humor does not always come across to everyone.
My point though, was to say a hobbyist might be willing to spend if the the special was special enough. As always, a lady can request whatever she chooses and can see whoever she likes. I was just trying to give a perspective from a hobbyist's point of view.[/QUOTE]Goddess is probably too young to know this but Kmart used to have this blue rotating light (just like on a police car) on about a 10' pole. They would put it in a section of the store where their next special is, and turn it on and make an announcement that for the next 15 minutes such and such item was marked down significantly. Hence the term "blue light special".
They probably did away with this about 25-30 years ago so it probably isn't recognized by anyone under 40.
It's ok otwist I have a dark sense of humor LOL
I rather offer attractive specials to my regs or people from here persay that I would be comfortable with, than to a complete stranger from a generic posting site that would have me a nervous wreck especially since the past week here. Elsewhere in the country " specials" are unheard of. It's amazing how things change state to state. I have met many wonderful mixtures of gentlemen and ladies. There are some great gentlemen with kind hearts and great passion from this site that are special.
Some providers are offering half hour service (for known clients) whereas they never advertise for half hour services per se. This also works well, as hobbyists can see more providers on a slimming budget, as well as feel good about having helped more providers pay the bills.
[QUOTE=Justin Urrkunt]Goddess is probably too young to know this but Kmart used to have this blue rotating light (just like on a police car) on about a 10' pole. They would put it in a section of the store where their next special is, and turn it on and make an announcement that for the next 15 minutes such and such item was marked down significantly. Hence the term "blue light special".
They probably did away with this about 25-30 years ago so it probably isn't recognized by anyone under 40.[/QUOTE]
Oh man, you just gave away my age as I remember the "blue light specials" like yesterday LOL
I was thinking red light special like as in red light district haha.
I should have just googled it.
[QUOTE=Goddess]I was thinking red light special like as in red light district haha.
I should have just googled it.[/QUOTE]
Maria - we could certainly create our "own" district and name it the Blue Light Distrct :-)
I fancy I could find a blue light bulb for you.