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[QUOTE=J Burb]But why not for V too? Isnt that also a patented creation of Phiezer?[/QUOTE]
Pfizer lost their patent on Sidenafil.
[quote]Kind of sucks that one single company is allowed to hold a monopoly on the erections of and entire country. Damn them![/QUOTE]
It's not a monopoly. There is Pfizer, Eli Lily and also Icos. All of them are manufacturers for ED drugs.
I can confirm the post below--I also got a e-mail from ADC informing me that my order for Tadalis cannot be shipped because of legalities
it suggests that I get their V or L instead
the e-mail concludes:
"Other internet sites offering Tadalafil are putting you at risk."
whatever the hell that's supposed to mean
[QUOTE=Princeton73]I can confirm the post below--I also got a e-mail from ADC informing me that my order for Tadalis cannot be shipped because of legalities
it suggests that I get their V or L instead
the e-mail concludes:
"Other internet sites offering Tadalafil are putting you at risk."
whatever the hell that's supposed to mean[/QUOTE]
I doubt the customer in the situation is really at the highest risk. I think it means more that other smaller less established compainies are willing to put themselfs at the risk that ADC is not, but ADC of coarse would still prefer your buisiness.
Cracking down is likely going to be a selective process to get the biggest fish like they do with street narcotics. They never really want the guy buying nickle and dime bags, and often they really dont give a shit about the guy selling them either. They really want the guy who sold to the guy selling them or the ones even higher up the food chain.
Just got some new MANLY from ADC (thier version of V) and see it now includes a manufacturing and experation date printed on the back of each pack. I was a bit concerned because it was manufactured NOV 05 so its already a little over a year old but it seems to work fine. Experation date says Apr 2010 which is about 4.5 yr lifespan but theres no way I believe it stays potent that long based on my experience withthe last batch and what I've read here from others
While cleaning out the glove box of my truck last week I came across a 4-pack of "PROGRA", Cipola's vervion of Sildenafil Citrate. It had been manufactured in August '03, and had an expiry date of July '06. Despite the harsh storage conditions (temperature range from 10 deg F to 110 deg F), and the fact that it was 7 months past expiry date, the pill I used yesterday worked just fine
Has anybody used:
mygenericpharmacy.com
if so, have you had good results?
got some generic C from supersavermeds last summer (the capsules)--it performed VERY well; excellent wood, minimal headache
got some more last december--minimal wood, bad headache
figgered I'd give them one more try-- just got some & tried it: no wood, VERY bad headache
so I give up on them
(I should add that I got some V from them in the december order and it was completely worthless)
Yesterday I received a 30 pill supply of 20mg Tadalafin and was anxious to use it. But, my funds were low so I decided I would use it with my S.O.
Worked great. In fact, I have some prescription L and the side effects of this Tadalafin were not as severe as with the true L.
Hopefully all of the pills will have the same effects without any extra side effects.
So, based upon last night's experience, I would recommend the company.
Van
Has anyone tried this pharmacy yet? Or will I be the one to Take One For The Team? I found this name on a website for Seniors regarding safe Canadian Pharmacies. Use this at your own risk. I will report if and when I order.
[url]http://www.canadianpharmacymeds.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]I see the references to alldaychemist a lot in here but they didn't have another scrip that I was looking for. Came across BrandMeds.com which had what I was looking for. Since I was ordering I decided to look up what they had in the way of Vitamin V, etc.
Ended up ordering some of their generic V (1. 5 per 100 mg pill). We'll see when they arrive.
Anyone else have any experience from BrandMeds.com?[/QUOTE]Well, just over six weeks and I'm still waiting for this shipment to arrive. Have been in email contact several times and they have been very responsive. Bottom line is they say to give it another week and if it doesn't show up by then they will re-ship NC.
Anyone know if a shipment gets 'seized' by customs, etc do you get notified or does it just not show up?
I ordered V (labeled as Manly, someone else mentioned that here before too) and C ( labeled as Erectalis, made by Cipla) on 1/15/07 and received order on 2/5/07. I did email customer service and inquired about when it would be shipped as the info box kept showing "in process". They said it was shipped 1/19/07
It was my first time ordering from them and have used the C so far with decent results. Haven't used the V (Manly) yet.
With the generic V I used in the past, the wood would be hard like when I was a teenager. Never having used C before I expected the same with longer effective times. Not so...the C gives a more natural hard on and takes about the same time as normal to get fully aroused. The V gets you rock hard in seconds.
Overall a good experience with alldaychemist.com
Thanks!!
[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]Anyone know if a shipment gets 'seized' by customs, etc do you get notified or does it just not show up?[/QUOTE]
I had a shipment from All Day Chemist siezed by Customs through Homeland Security. Thats right Homeland Security. I made the order with ADC in March(last year) and it just never arrived. I finally contacted their customer service after 9 weeks. They told me it had been sent 4 weeks previous to my call. They said they would reship and the order arrived two weeks later. About three weeks later I recieved through regular mail a letter from Homeland Security. They stated that my shipment (the first one) had been siezed and that I needed to fill out some paperwork to retrieve the order. I was also given the option to ignore the letter and if so the parcel would be destroyed. It's been almost a year and haven't had any other correspondance from them. Even though ADC had great prices and responsive customer service, I doubt I will ever order again. Since I got the reshipment, the way they check packages appears to be random. But I just don't want to risk strike two with the government boys.
[QUOTE=Superman06]I had a shipment from All Day Chemist siezed by Customs through Homeland Security. Thats right Homeland Security. I made the order with ADC in March(last year) and it just never arrived. I finally contacted their customer service after 9 weeks. They told me it had been sent 4 weeks previous to my call. They said they would reship and the order arrived two weeks later. About three weeks later I recieved through regular mail a letter from Homeland Security. They stated that my shipment (the first one) had been siezed and that I needed to fill out some paperwork to retrieve the order. I was also given the option to ignore the letter and if so the parcel would be destroyed. It's been almost a year and haven't had any other correspondance from them. Even though ADC had great prices and responsive customer service, I doubt I will ever order again. Since I got the reshipment, the way they check packages appears to be random. But I just don't want to risk strike two with the government boys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, SM...
I contacted them again last week and they told me for some reason a few of their shipments sent in late January were taking a while for delivery. They asked me to wait until Tues and if it hadn't arrived they would re-ship.
Lo and behold the shipment was delivered on Sat morning. Go figure. Now to try it out and see how it works.
[QUOTE=AsianFan]I've been reading some of the previous entries and have a few questions that I hadn't seen answers to.
I used to stock up when ever I had the chance to go to Tijuana, but that doesn't happen too often anymore and the last time that I bought down there I asked for 20mg L and got half of the order as 10mg, but boxed as 20. So I'm interested in trying some of the online places.
I tried a couple of sites and they had extensive health questionaires and stated that you would have to complete the questionaires and have their doctor approve them. Have you experienced this with ADC, Budget or supersaver?
How discrete is the packaging, really? Do you have any concerns about having the products sent to your office?
Has anyone ever had issues credit card security with any of these places?
Thanks,
AF[/QUOTE]Hi;
I have had experience with three products. When I received the products in the mail, they were all in very discreet packages. You have nothing to worry about there. Now to the products. As a 56 y/o male with diabetes and slightly elevated bp, I have not taken V, see or L because of the side effects I have read about. That being said, I tried natural products. I have had success with three. Libidus, which is no longer available in the US, Arize and Vicerex. I can say that these products will stay in your system from 2-4 days. Erections are very strong and I have had NO side effects. No flushing of face, no racing heartbeat, no blue spots before my eyes and no headaches. However, these products work very well for me and might not work for everyone. But if you are experiencing erectile issues and don't want to try the big three, then I suggest you check out the web site of Arize and Vicerex. Pm if you wish any any info.
I ordered some generic V online at the end of the year. It came within a reasonable amount of time. The package was from India. It works well; just as good as from RX-mex in the past. Today I get a letter from Homeland Security that an order of generic V has been confiscated by them. It was snagged March 20th. They did not give me an option of getting it from them and said that if they were to confiscate another order, they would do the same. There was no threat of doing anything to me. I did not order the package that they have, so I am a little confused, and nervous. I am also concerned that the company may try to bill me for another order.
[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]I see the references to alldaychemist a lot in here but they didn't have another scrip that I was looking for. Came across BrandMeds.com which had what I was looking for. Since I was ordering I decided to look up what they had in the way of Vitamin V, etc.
Ended up ordering some of their generic V (1. 5 per 100 mg pill). We'll see when they arrive.
Anyone else have any experience from BrandMeds.com?[/QUOTE]I reported last week that my shipment had finally arrived. Well, Friday was my first opportunity to try out my new goods. Short answer. Awesome! Long answer. Read on.
I've had a lifelong problem with PE so have tried many different alternatives. Sometime back I did some research on prescription anti-depressants which have a side effect of delaying ejaculation. My latest trial was to try this particular med (we'll call it 'A') along with a try-out of some generic 'V. '
I had a session with one of my favorite's scheduled in the early afternoon. About 4 hours prior to the meeting I took the A med. No serious side effects were noticed (sometimes drowsiness or nausea accompanies these). About 1 hour prior to the meeting I took the V (50 mg). Again, I noticed nothing and began to wonder about both of these. That changed real soon. About a half-hour after taking the V (I was driving to meet my favorite girl) I started to feel just slightly flushed and slight sinus congestion. Then I began to get a very strong erection for no apparent reason. Seemed like real good wood. After arriving for my session we began to play as usual. Here's where the real test would be. I found that I was lasting tremendously long compared to usual. When I popped it was strong. After the first round we lay on the bed together and we both noticed that I wasn't going limp. After just a few minutes we decided to go for round two. It was incredible. Everything I'd always hoped for staying power and good wood throughout.
After leaving I noticed that just thinking back to the afternoon would give me strong wood again for well over six hours. Consider me more than satisfied.
since your reports of V from Brandmeds.com, I've looked at their web page
I don't see ANY reference to any ED drugs that they sell
the "search" function on their page gives nothing when I type in "viagra"
where is it?
[QUOTE=Princeton73]since your reports of V from Brandmeds.com, I've looked at their web page
I don't see ANY reference to any ED drugs that they sell
the "search" function on their page gives nothing when I type in "viagra"
where is it?[/QUOTE]
Try this link:
[url]http://www.brandmeds.com/pricelist.html[/url]
Search on Sildenafil and you should find it.
[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]Try this link:
[url]http://www.brandmeds.com/pricelist.html[/url]
Search on Sildenafil and you should find it.[/QUOTE]
thank you so very much--why are they hiding it?
if you search for "Sildenafil" on their home page, you get nada
[QUOTE=Princeton73]thank you so very much--why are they hiding it?
if you search for "Sildenafil" on their home page, you get nada[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I noticed that one time. I think the normal 'storefront' only shows certain medicines available. I don't remember how I initially stumbled on to the 'pricelist' link (probably a google search or something) but from there found many other choices available.
Good luck!
Can you tell us what medication "A" was?
[QUOTE=Carl White]Can you tell us what medication "A" was?[/QUOTE]
I can tell you what I took but I am not a doctor so am not advocating the use of any medication for any purpose.
'A' is Anafranil (Clomipramine). You may find the following sites useful. I found them during some pretty extensive searching for PE solutions I have done. Some of the information I have had to pay for but these are free sites.
[url]http://www.drugstore.com/pharmacy/a....asp?label=1249[/url]
[url]http://www.biopsychiatry.com/antide...jaculation.html[/url]
[url]http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/494264[/url]
[url]http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic643.htm[/url] (section 7)
I had another experience last Friday with very similar positive results. I used the same dosages and timings as before. This time I found that I had some minor stomach irratations after taking the Anafranil but I did so early in the morning on an empty stomach. Probably should have waited until I had breakfast. Still nothing that lasted long nor was truly uncomfortable.
I am really pleased with the results so far.
Hello All,
Recently I got a prescription for Cialis and have used it several times to mixed results (Not bad results, must sometimes I don't have the hardest wood I would like).
I was wondering if anyone here had tried both Cialis and Viagra and could tell me the differences. It seems most of the people around here are using Viagra with good success, I was going to see about getting samples next time I was at the doc's but thats another month or so off.
Z
Have you tried good ole Darvacete (mild pain pills)? I'm not sure why these work (they tend to have a more "topical" numbing effect than stronger Oyx/Lortab/etc. drugs with much less "stoned" feeling - but I do find a considerable anti-anxiety effect also), but I can garantee they often do. Although I do not have chronic PE, sometimes I was not able to last as long as I would like. I accidentaly stumbled across the orgasm delaying quality of this drug (also known genericaly as Propo N/apap). I then shared some with a few friends to confirm the effects with a 100% success rate reported....YMMV! ALSO- be aware that this drug is easy to OD on & has killed a lot of people ( mixing w/other drugs & booze)... just DON"T exceed 1 pill . I've usd it in conjuntion with V & C, BP meds, et al. at 75+ times with no problem. (ha..... YMMV...just be sure you don't break your odometer)
( hey... i'm not a "druggie", but - after you fight your way through the pig stings, crack/ice hoes/dealers/pimps, gangs, & traffic ...... here in ATL... A guy needs all the help he can get for "attitude adjustment" to get in the mood.)
Also Anyone got a dependable line on (cheap) cialis since the import problems started. I had to reorder, so i'm waiting on some V from ADC.... wish it was C! Often difficult to hit that "3 hour window" with the V.
[QUOTE=Rake]Have you tried good ole Darvacete (mild pain pills)? I'm not sure why these work (they tend to have a more "topical" numbing effect than stronger Oyx/Lortab/etc. drugs with much less "stoned" feeling - but I do find a considerable anti-anxiety effect also), but I can garantee they often do. Although I do not have chronic PE, sometimes I was not able to last as long as I would like. I accidentaly stumbled across the orgasm delaying quality of this drug (also known genericaly as Propo N/apap). I then shared some with a few friends to confirm the effects with a 100% success rate reported....YMMV! ALSO- be aware that this drug is easy to OD on & has killed a lot of people ( mixing w/other drugs & booze)... just DON"T exceed 1 pill . I've usd it in conjuntion with V & C, BP meds, et al. at 75+ times with no problem. (ha..... YMMV...just be sure you don't break your odometer)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the lead on this, Rake. I've read up a bit and may have to give it a try. As you point out, it can be a dangerous drug if not properly taken.
On another note I have my third data point with the Anafranil and generic V from Brandmeds. Today's result was rather interesting. Met with a new provider after following my regimen as before (Anafranil approx 4 hrs before and V approx 1 hour before). The suprise was that I only had one pop with this provider - not because I couldn't have gone for two but because I lasted so long that's all I had time for! I never would have thought that possible with me.
After my provider experience I thought I'd really give this stuff some more testing. Stopped by a local strip club and decided to treat myself to some intense VIP action. In the past I could never do this without bringing a change of underwear after about 1 or 2 songs. Today? 13 dances and I was still enjoying myself!
I'm going to have some more trials tomorrow so I'll see what happens when I take the Anafranil two days in a row. Wish me luck!
Kirstyforme,
What dosage did you take of the Anafranil (Clomipramine)? 25, 50 or 75mg?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Seven II]Kirstyforme,
What dosage did you take of the Anafranil (Clomipramine)? 25, 50 or 75mg?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
All my experience so far is with 25 mg taken approx 4 hours prior to any sexual activity. Seems to last a while so timing could be adjusted somewhat.
Forgot to mention yesterday that when I took the Anafranil I made sure to do so not with an empty stomach. Absolutely no stomach uneasiness this time around.
[QUOTE=VanDriver]Yesterday I received a 30 pill supply of 20mg Tadalafin and was anxious to use it. But, my funds were low so I decided I would use it with my S.O.
Worked great. In fact, I have some prescription L and the side effects of this Tadalafin were not as severe as with the true L.
Hopefully all of the pills will have the same effects without any extra side effects.
So, based upon last night's experience, I would recommend the company.
Van[/QUOTE]
Well, I am sad to admit that none of the other 10 pills (other than the first one) had any affect on me whatsoever. This leads me to believe that, possibly, the affect the first pill had was totally in my head.
I am going to email Budgetmedicines to see what their take is on the subject, but I also wanted to alert my fellow mongers of this update.
Van
PS - One more thing... I just took one and decided to chew it up rather than swallowing the pill in its entirety. Tasted like chalk...not the bitter taste that almost all (if not all) tablet pills have. I think I may have paid for chalk. We'll see what B.M. says.
Just wondering about the experiences of others with the various ED drugs. My first experience was with viagra. While it would sometimes make my face flush and stuff me up a little, it worked briefly and then stopped. I was taking a half of a 100 mg tablet. I was later increased to the full 100 and that seemed to work better. Again for awhile. I later learned that it works best on an empty stomach because some foods interfere with it. My next experience was with cialis, which seemed OK because nothing seemed to interfere with it and the side effects were not at all like the viagra. However, the expense of it makes it something to preserve rather than use. I then went with levitra at 20 mg but had pretty bad headaches, lots of stuffiness and a lot of dizziness. I learned that my prostate meds reacted badly with the levitra so I went back to viagra. I have found that with all of the meds, they all seemed to have a better effect on me several hours AFTER I had taken them rather than within the first hour or two. Much to my amazement, they were sometimes more effective 12 or so hours later if I am lucky enough to still have a willing partner at that time. Has anyone else found these meds to be more effective after a longer period of time than within the first hour or two after taking them?
Anyone having slow shipment problems with thier recent orders? I ordered from Budgetmedicine on March 10 and still haven't received my order. It is usually faster than this this.
I wonder if they are starting to crackdown on imports. I sent a message to BM customer service. I'll let you know what happens.
[QUOTE=Irish Male2]Just wondering about the experiences of others with the various ED drugs. My first experience was with viagra. While it would sometimes make my face flush and stuff me up a little, it worked briefly and then stopped. I was taking a half of a 100 mg tablet. I was later increased to the full 100 and that seemed to work better. Again for awhile. I later learned that it works best on an empty stomach because some foods interfere with it. My next experience was with cialis, which seemed OK because nothing seemed to interfere with it and the side effects were not at all like the viagra. However, the expense of it makes it something to preserve rather than use. I then went with levitra at 20 mg but had pretty bad headaches, lots of stuffiness and a lot of dizziness. I learned that my prostate meds reacted badly with the levitra so I went back to viagra. I have found that with all of the meds, they all seemed to have a better effect on me several hours AFTER I had taken them rather than within the first hour or two. Much to my amazement, they were sometimes more effective 12 or so hours later if I am lucky enough to still have a willing partner at that time. Has anyone else found these meds to be more effective after a longer period of time than within the first hour or two after taking them?[/QUOTE]I've used both Levitra and Cialis. Doc prescribed L since it's supposed to work with my bp meds. I tried C on my own volition. Both seemed to work best after about 3 hours rather than the 1/2 hour that the C literature said. Best wood was when taken at lunch time and then heading for a mongering spot after work.
This is long overdue. Thanks for your answer. I will report on what my results are. I went ahead and placed an order for the "A" today.
[QUOTE=Big Hick]Anyone having slow shipment problems with thier recent orders? I ordered from Budgetmedicine on March 10 and still haven't received my order. It is usually faster than this this.
I wonder if they are starting to crackdown on imports. I sent a message to BM customer service. I'll let you know what happens.[/QUOTE]
ordered from Budgetmeds on March 11--got confirmation & e-mail stating the item was shipped March 15th
just got it yesterday (!)
so, shipping seems a bit slow--but it got here
[QUOTE=Irish Male2]Just wondering about the experiences of others with the various ED drugs. My first experience was with viagra. While it would sometimes make my face flush and stuff me up a little, it worked briefly and then stopped. I was taking a half of a 100 mg tablet. I was later increased to the full 100 and that seemed to work better. Again for awhile. I later learned that it works best on an empty stomach because some foods interfere with it. My next experience was with cialis, which seemed OK because nothing seemed to interfere with it and the side effects were not at all like the viagra. However, the expense of it makes it something to preserve rather than use. I then went with levitra at 20 mg but had pretty bad headaches, lots of stuffiness and a lot of dizziness. I learned that my prostate meds reacted badly with the levitra so I went back to viagra. I have found that with all of the meds, they all seemed to have a better effect on me several hours AFTER I had taken them rather than within the first hour or two. Much to my amazement, they were sometimes more effective 12 or so hours later if I am lucky enough to still have a willing partner at that time. Has anyone else found these meds to be more effective after a longer period of time than within the first hour or two after taking them?[/QUOTE]C, V, L all seem to last 5-10 hours longer for me as well.
I tried the Seyagra (generic V) Gel pack. It works pretty well, it is fast acting, within 10 minutes, and the side effects are somewhat different, instead of a face flush it feels more like a head swell and not as bad a the pill version. The only bad thing is the terrible minty taste of the gel, which you are supposed to let dissolve in your mouth. Has anyone else tried these packets.
so I tried the C that (finally) arrived from budgetmeds and.....
nothing
nada
rien
nichts
no wood, no headache, nothin'--must be pure sugar pills
very disappointing since I was counting on them to replace allday C
(oh, well)
[QUOTE=Princeton73]so I tried the C that (finally) arrived from budgetmeds and.....
nothing
nada
rien
nichts
no wood, no headache, nothin'--must be pure sugar pills
very disappointing since I was counting on them to replace allday C
(oh, well)[/QUOTE]
I posted back on 4/9 with the same information that the product did not work.
Just as an aside, BudgetMedicines emailed me and requested that I AirMail back the remainder of my 30 pills so they can test. They informed me that they spot check the manufacturer and would like to run these through the test.
As of today, I have not sent them back though.
Van
[QUOTE=Princeton73]so I tried the C that (finally) arrived from budgetmeds and.....
nothing
nada
rien
nichts
no wood, no headache, nothin'--must be pure sugar pills
very disappointing since I was counting on them to replace allday C
(oh, well)[/QUOTE]I got C by prescription from my Doc, filled at Pharmacy, about $12 per pill.
Nothing, Nada etc.
I ordered the 60 pack of Sildenafil Citrate 100 mg (Viagra) on 4/5. Received it on 4/24. Tried it out on 4/26. I took one pill about 1 hour beforehand and it worked as expected. I was flushed and horney. When I saw her, I immediately got hard and stayed that way. She also noticed I was bigger than normal. Didn't take long for me to cum. But that is where the fun stopped. About 2 hours later, I got a migrane. It was bad. I took some tylenol but it did no good. I thought my head was going to explode. Also, I started to have an upset stomach. I went to bed early and felt ok the next morning. I've tried V before (1/3 of 100mg) and it was great. Except for the flushing. Next time I'll try half of a pill and see how it goes.
I think it is harder to make generic Cialis than generic Viagra. There very well may be no real generic Cialis out there for us to even order at this point, so it's only sugar pills. A long while back I got Cialis from Rx-mex that practically gave me priapism. They went out of business and I have tried 4 other online pharmacies and each time I got sugar pills. However, I always also ordered generic Viagra as a backup and have never been let down. Maybe it's pretty simple to make or buy sildenifil so there's less incentive for the pill packagers to make phony viagra. Although the Viagra is hit-and-miss, because apparantly they mix it unevenly and cause uneven dosing pill to pill, at least they have never been duds.
I also challenge those of you who are hesitant to knock a particular brand because you think it 'might' have worked, but you just weren't sure. In my experience see and V produce unmistakable side effects and even striking visible difference in the skin thickness of the erect penis. If you just aren't sure, I would assume it's a sugar pill. And with Viagra, you get the blue vision (at the 100 dose), which is absolute verification that it's real.
There is also the other issue that has been mentioned here before that the pills seem to expire within a few months. This is scary when you consider whatever weak chemical formulation that causes it to be so volatile, also could be something that makes it very dangerous to take. But this short lifetime for the pills only applied to the cialis, it doesn't seem to be as big a problem with the Viagra. So, solution is just focus on V for now.
[QUOTE=Kudlow]I ordered the 60 pack of Sildenafil Citrate 100 mg (Viagra) on 4/5. Received it on 4/24....I thought my head was going to explode. Also, I started to have an upset stomach. I went to bed early and felt ok the next morning. I've tried V before (1/3 of 100mg) and it was great. Except for the flushing. Next time I'll try half of a pill and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]My order from Alldaychemist arrived this week. Have ordered their "Manly" V a couple times before and this time got their 120 pack (w/ 120 bonus) today. It's a good deal.
I'm seen the recent reports here about problems people have been having w/ some shipments from different places being seized or just not showing up. I was a bit concerned about that so I was surprised and pleased to see this order arrive actually faster than any previous order from Allday or RxMex before them. Unlike previous orders that have arrived in an envelope of some kind, this one came neatly packed in a plastic container. Tablets are red for the first time. Haven't tried them yet, but they've worked everytime before although the Manly 100mg doesn't seem as strong as the real stuff.