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[QUOTE=Saitamaa;5899386]New site: [URL]tokoyo520888.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]How is Tokyo 520 any different from the prolific ads on STG and others sites. Is it just that the girls are younger? The services offered seem to be the same as the STG asian ads but at a higher price. And for the same price, BTT seems a much better option than Tokyo 520. Am I missing something?
[QUOTE=JrKoff;5899568]How is Tokyo 520 any different from the prolific ads on STG and others sites. Is it just that the girls are younger? The services offered seem to be the same as the STG asian ads but at a higher price. And for the same price, BTT seems a much better option than Tokyo 520. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]From my past experiences, they've been pretty good with keeping the girls young.
[QUOTE=JrKoff;5899568]How is Tokyo 520 any different from the prolific ads on STG and others sites. Is it just that the girls are younger? The services offered seem to be the same as the STG asian ads but at a higher price. And for the same price, BTT seems a much better option than Tokyo 520. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I think mostly younger but yea BTT is the better option. Sometimes I just like to browse.
[QUOTE=PokeManga;5886570]Anyone has thoughts / reviews on Alexa from BIE? Have been wanting to pay her a visit but couldn't find any reviews anywhere. Thanks![/QUOTE]Alexa is great GFE. Really into DFK and pleasing but almost no English. I've seen her twice. She has strong, consistent ter reviews.
Anyone see Josephine at BIE? I'll be visiting next week and she's on the schedule. Does their hour rate include MSOG?
[QUOTE=EasiePeasie;5909469]Alexa is great GFE. Really into DFK and pleasing but almost no English. I've seen her twice. She has strong, consistent ter reviews.[/QUOTE]Do you mind sharing the links to her reviews or point me to where I can find them? Couldn't find them on TER at all. Thanks.
How does one get verified with BTT and BIE.
Do you have to share all the information they ask? It's pretty invasive.
Does BTT have a number or email?
Help please.
This was discussed on this thread some time ago -- BTT asks for a lot of personal info and some have not been comfortable with their approach. I was screened by BIE through another agency's verification, and with that agency I had a couple of indies who were not as stringent who saw me and were able to verify. All to say, if you don't want your personal information out there, you might need to put in some ground work to get indies who will be able to vouch for you. In my experience, many agencies (but not BTT) will use a personal reference from an indie who has a website and reviews on TER. With BTT it seems they insist on your providing true personal information -- so proceed with caution unless you don't really care if their phones / computers are being monitored by the Feds, as they very likely may be.
[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;5754844]I don't like sharing personal info. I'm still recovering from the shock I faced after sharing my true identity with BAD (some may recall them. Lots in the forums about their fate). When they were busted the Feds showed a stack of papers they said contained the real information of clients -- apparently they got sloppy and didn't shred their files as they were promising (or at least didn't do so with some of the applications).
After that, I made a plan that has worked: I had a TER account with a few reviews. I used TER and a pseudonym (and a burner phone) to set up appointments with a couple of local indie providers who were Ok with just using TER, and then after that asked those providers for refs that I used -- with my pseudonym and my TER handle -- to be cleared by two agencies. Now I use the agencies for refs for indies, and from what I can tell, they are good with responding and giving refs.
But that means I have not signed up for any of the agencies that require true personal info (e. G. BTT). I've reached out and asked them if they would accept my valid current refs but they say no. It's their loss, I guess.
FWIW, I'm pretty sure that behind BTT you'll find the same operation that was behind BAD -- the Feds likely only were able to charge the "operators. " We all know that these agencies are part of a transnational Korean crime organization. (I'm not saying they are enslaving women -- quite the opposite. I found the BAD women were all very forward about sharing details about their lives and how this work was voluntary and a foothold to a better life for them.) But I don't trust BTT any more than I should have trusted BAD with my personal info. As with all these operations they will likely be brought down by the Feds eventually (working with the Cambridge Police who are also pretty committed to tackling apartment brothels in their jurisdiction, unlike some other regional towns / cities). I don't need the anxiety that my phone number or employment details will be included in court documents somewhere.
The other option is P411, they also require personal info -- but are probably more reliable about deleting it (although as we all know, nothing is ever really deleted! Good luck![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ypkan;5915283]How does one get verified with BTT and BIE.
Do you have to share all the information they ask? It's pretty invasive.
Does BTT have a number or email?
Help please.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PokeManga;5915273]Do you mind sharing the links to her reviews or point me to where I can find them? Couldn't find them on TER at all. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You sure did not try very hard! Simple search on Alexa and the BI phone # turns up 3 Waltham reviews at BI and 15 Tysons Corner profile reviews for both BI and PL.
Well I had a negative exp with BTT so decided to try BIE before I left town.
Glad I did. Amanda is a Columbian. Beautiful face / lips, slim petite body and nice bolt ons. She only speaks a little English but with my little Spanish it worked out great.
Great DFK, BBBJ, and excellent attitude. We hit it off really well and with her hotness was able to pop 3 times with her. YMMV.
Glad I went thru with verifying with BIE last minute (using my BTT referral). Going home happy.
[QUOTE=LocalMotion;5914730]Anyone see Josephine at BIE? I'll be visiting next week and she's on the schedule. Does their hour rate include MSOG?[/QUOTE]Saw Josephine. Nice, fit South American girl with a friendly personality & pretty good English. Pictures accurate. Not sure about MSOG but I sensed that she'd be open to it.
[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;5754844]I don't like sharing personal info. I'm still recovering from the shock I faced after sharing my true identity with BAD (some may recall them. Lots in the forums about their fate). When they were busted the Feds showed a stack of papers they said contained the real information of clients -- apparently they got sloppy and didn't shred their files as they were promising (or at least didn't do so with some of the applications).
After that, I made a plan that has worked: I had a TER account with a few reviews. I used TER and a pseudonym (and a burner phone) to set up appointments with a couple of local indie providers who were Ok with just using TER, and then after that asked those providers for refs that I used -- with my pseudonym and my TER handle -- to be cleared by two agencies. Now I use the agencies for refs for indies, and from what I can tell, they are good with responding and giving refs.
But that means I have not signed up for any of the agencies that require true personal info (e. G. BTT). I've reached out and asked them if they would accept my valid current refs but they say no. It's their loss, I guess.
FWIW, I'm pretty sure that behind BTT you'll find the same operation that was behind BAD -- the Feds likely only were able to charge the "operators. " We all know that these agencies are part of a transnational Korean crime organization. (I'm not saying they are enslaving women -- quite the opposite. I found the BAD women were all very forward about sharing details about their lives and how this work was voluntary and a foothold to a better life for them.) But I don't trust BTT any more than I should have trusted BAD with my personal info. As with all these operations they will likely be brought down by the Feds eventually (working with the Cambridge Police who are also pretty committed to tackling apartment brothels in their jurisdiction, unlike some other regional towns / cities). I don't need the anxiety that my phone number or employment details will be included in court documents somewhere.
The other option is P411, they also require personal info -- but are probably more reliable about deleting it (although as we all know, nothing is ever really deleted! Good luck![/QUOTE]Any advice for those of us already verified by BTT? And I'm not familiar with BAD if you can point me in the right direction.
[QUOTE=Tiptap;5928458]Saw Josephine. Nice, fit South American girl with a friendly personality & pretty good English. Pictures accurate. Not sure about MSOG but I sensed that she'd be open to it.[/QUOTE]Thumbs up for Josephine as well. Great girl and very eager to please. I'll definitely repeat next time she's back in town.
[QUOTE=LocalMotion;5926889]Well I had a negative exp with BTT so decided to try BIE before I left town.
Glad I did. Amanda is a Columbian. Beautiful face / lips, slim petite body and nice bolt ons. She only speaks a little English but with my little Spanish it worked out great.
Great DFK, BBBJ, and excellent attitude. We hit it off really well and with her hotness was able to pop 3 times with her. YMMV.
Glad I went thru with verifying with BIE last minute (using my BTT referral). Going home happy.[/QUOTE]Curiosity, how did you get a BTT referral? Been looking to branch out but I really only know BTT and SA girls.
[QUOTE=Tiptap;5928458]Saw Josephine. Nice, fit South American girl with a friendly personality & pretty good English. Pictures accurate. Not sure about MSOG but I sensed that she'd be open to it.[/QUOTE]Josephine was actually my first choice, but she ended up being twice as far as Amanda from me so decided to just choose the one that was closer since they both look pretty hot from their pics.
[QUOTE=Wockser;5930391]Curiosity, how did you get a BTT referral? Been looking to branch out but I really only know BTT and SA girls.[/QUOTE]I just used BIE's online verification form and put the link to Suzy (girl I saw) and the phone number for BTT used to setup Appt etc.
[QUOTE=Solandonward;5929762]Any advice for those of us already verified by BTT? And I'm not familiar with BAD if you can point me in the right direction.[/QUOTE]Re BAD, you'll find tons of info on the boards just by searching but I'll just point you to this article for the scary stuff:
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/prostitution-ring-running-brothels-apartments-three-states-1045812[/URL]
BTT is the second-gen inheritor of BAD (there was an intermediary outfit that was busted after being open for a few months, I forget their name). Essentially my guess is that the Korean kingpins who run the back end of the operation just keep setting up new front offices as the feds take those down. They set up new operations in a month or two after each bust, often using the same properties. I'm sure I'm not disclosing anything that LE doesn't already know.
As for advice, I just would be very careful. I don't think the Feds are too concerned about the clients all that much as they likely are trying to get to the higher levels of this Korean network which I presume spans many states and likely is international. I would not be surprised if they have a team of agents working on this full time. In that sense I'm sure they are monitoring communications, possibly casing the sites. It's clear they did that with BAD. But again I don't know what happens to the data they gather (such as text messages -- which they clearly had access to in the case of BAD) -- will that remain in a file somewhere for eternity? Could it be leaked, hacked, or just become public?
Maybe on more thing I can add to this: in many cases agencies show a strong commitment to client privacy as a form of good business practice. BAD seems not to have done a good job with this, and my sense is that the operation behind the K-brothels just isn't very concerned about their clients. In fact they seem to operate with the presumption that their front offices will be busted eventually, and their security is set up to protect the highers-up. So caveat emptor.
[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;5932683]Re BAD, you'll find tons of info on the boards just by searching but I'll just point you to this article for the scary stuff:
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/prostitution-ring-running-brothels-apartments-three-states-1045812[/URL]
BTT is the second-gen inheritor of BAD (there was an intermediary outfit that was busted after being open for a few months, I forget their name). Essentially my guess is that the Korean kingpins who run the back end of the operation just keep setting up new front offices as the feds take those down. They set up new operations in a month or two after each bust, often using the same properties. I'm sure I'm not disclosing anything that LE doesn't already know.
As for advice, I just would be very careful. I don't think the Feds are too concerned about the clients all that much as they likely are trying to get to the higher levels of this Korean network which I presume spans many states and likely is international. I would not be surprised if they have a team of agents working on this full time. In that sense I'm sure they are monitoring communications, possibly casing the sites. It's clear they did that with BAD. But again I don't know what happens to the data they gather (such as text messages -- which they clearly had access to in the case of BAD) -- will that remain in a file somewhere for eternity? Could it be leaked, hacked, or just become public?
Maybe on more thing I can add to this: in many cases agencies show a strong commitment to client privacy as a form of good business practice. BAD seems not to have done a good job with this, and my sense is that the operation behind the K-brothels just isn't very concerned about their clients. In fact they seem to operate with the presumption that their front offices will be busted eventually, and their security is set up to protect the highers-up. So caveat emptor.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot!
Do you think I can get away with being verified by BIE without providing my work and I'd and all that and just have another agency vouch for me?
[QUOTE=Solandonward;5933678]Thanks a lot!
Do you think I can get away with being verified by BIE without providing my work and I'd and all that and just have another agency vouch for me?[/QUOTE]Yep, in my experience BIE will accept referrals from legitimate, reviewed, independent providers or other agencies, and don't require those references to be with your legal name, but can be under a pseudonym. In my experience, it's not difficult to find independent providers who will book you through the TER messaging system if you have some reviews on TER -- meaning you can use a pseudonym and with a burner phone number / email (so you need to obtain a burner phone or maybe use one of the burner phone apps, and obviously use a separate email account that you can use to establish yourself with them). Once you have a few indie references built up, it's easy to get cleared by most agencies other than BTT. I've been cleared by several agencies this way.
Again, protecting your identity will require a bit of groundwork -- you might need to spend a few weeks first posting reviews of recent providers you have seen onto TER (e. G. The BTT providers you have seen, why not? Then booking with an indie or two before going to an agency like BIE using those indies as your references. Others may have other suggestions, but this is what worked with me.
Hey folks, I've been trying to get my hands on a WeChat verification for forever and finally got one. Can anyone toss me some tips on how to use it with Tokyo and Phoenix? Or do you guys just call? I kinda forgot why I wanted WeChat in the year plus I've been trying to get one if calling just works XD.
And if anyone has good WeChat contacts, I'd be highly appreciative.
[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;5934102]Yep, in my experience BIE will accept referrals from legitimate, reviewed, independent providers or other agencies, and don't require those references to be with your legal name, but can be under a pseudonym. In my experience, it's not difficult to find independent providers who will book you through the TER messaging system if you have some reviews on TER -- meaning you can use a pseudonym and with a burner phone number / email (so you need to obtain a burner phone or maybe use one of the burner phone apps, and obviously use a separate email account that you can use to establish yourself with them). Once you have a few indie references built up, it's easy to get cleared by most agencies other than BTT. I've been cleared by several agencies this way.
Again, protecting your identity will require a bit of groundwork -- you might need to spend a few weeks first posting reviews of recent providers you have seen onto TER (e. G. The BTT providers you have seen, why not? Then booking with an indie or two before going to an agency like BIE using those indies as your references. Others may have other suggestions, but this is what worked with me.[/QUOTE]I was verified by BIE the same way: pseudonym with referrals by two indies. But after verification I was worried because after booking an appointment they sent a message that at my first visit the provider would check the name on my license. Luckily she did not, possibly because it was her first tour with BIE. KashkaiBoy, what was your experience regarding name check?
[QUOTE=EasiePeasie;5951577]I was verified by BIE the same way: pseudonym with referrals by two indies. But after verification I was worried because after booking an appointment they sent a message that at my first visit the provider would check the name on my license. Luckily she did not, possibly because it was her first tour with BIE. KashkaiBoy, what was your experience regarding name check?[/QUOTE]I don't recall any I'd check either being mentioned or performed with BIE, I always had a sense that they respected privacy as long as your refs were good. But you reminded me that a few years back I booked with an indie using a reference on the basis of a pseudonym, and once I arrived at the room she politely asked to see an I'd. I only had a sec to think about it and decided that it wasn't a big deal to briefly show her my DL as long as we were not recording it on email / text etc. I explained that I use a pseudonym for the formal bookings and she was totally cool with that, she just looked quickly at the license and gave it back. She told me that many indie providers share names of on bad clients (meaning abusers / creeps / etc) in specific towns with one another. She knew the names of men that she wanted to avoid and just wanted to be sure I wasn't one of them, which seemed reasonable for her security.
Hey all any experience with how long it takes to get verified? I sent in the form on Saturday and haven't heard back, wondering if I typo'ed my cell or something at this point.
[QUOTE=Solandonward;5955531]Hey all any experience with how long it takes to get verified? I sent in the form on Saturday and haven't heard back, wondering if I typo'ed my cell or something at this point.[/QUOTE]When I got verified in January I filled the form out online at around 5:30 am and they sent me a text before 9:00 am.
[QUOTE=Lennox65;5957086]When I got verified in January I filled the form out online at around 5:30 am and they sent me a text before 9:00 am.[/QUOTE]Maybe try texting the number. You never know if there could have been a technical problem. They're very responsive on text.
[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;5957338]Maybe try texting the number. You never know if there could have been a technical problem. They're very responsive on text.[/QUOTE]Is that posted somewhere?
[QUOTE=Solandonward;5957973]Is that posted somewhere?[/QUOTE]Just click on the top "Book now" tab.
I've actually visited Phoenix a few times and each time has been a disappointment. But I keep returning since it's more convenient for me than BTT. I think it's more so the language barrier prevents you from communicating what you want. One thing to note is that you can request special services from them. Like rimming. Not all of the providers will offer it, but they will let you know which one does it. I recently requested and one of the girls was able to do it. I wished it was a bit longer, but she only rimmed for like 2 minutes. Also, she seemed annoyed when I asked her to change positions, did not offer 69. And at the end of the session, it looks like there were some blood on the condom, so I'm pretty sure she was on her period. I wouldn't really recommend them unless you're desperate. The girls are usually pretty young, definitely younger than most at BTT, so if young girls are your thing, this is the agency.
[QUOTE=BOS143;5972934]I've actually visited Phoenix a few times and each time has been a disappointment. But I keep returning since it's more convenient for me than BTT. I think it's more so the language barrier prevents you from communicating what you want. One thing to note is that you can request special services from them. Like rimming. Not all of the providers will offer it, but they will let you know which one does it. I recently requested and one of the girls was able to do it. I wished it was a bit longer, but she only rimmed for like 2 minutes. Also, she seemed annoyed when I asked her to change positions, did not offer 69. And at the end of the session, it looks like there were some blood on the condom, so I'm pretty sure she was on her period. I wouldn't really recommend them unless you're desperate. The girls are usually pretty young, definitely younger than most at BTT, so if young girls are your thing, this is the agency.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
There's another one out there [URL]https://xiaomi88888.com/[/URL] seems different girls than Tokoyo and phoenix but you know how that goes and I have not ventured there yet.
[QUOTE=Noxxx;5975162]Thanks for the info.
There's another one out there [URL]https://xiaomi88888.com/[/URL] seems different girls than Tokoyo and phoenix but you know how that goes and I have not ventured there yet.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling all 3 of these sites are run by the same group lmao. Tokoyo is the high end version of Xiami88888. Phoenix is just the medford version of Xiaomi.
Hi all,
I'm trying to get verified with Xiao and reading the previous post and looking at the website layouts it seems to me true they are under one management.
I saw that they are only accepting Chinese clients only and some post saying they are accepting non-asian clients as well. I sent them a text like at 2:30 am and wasn't hoping to get back a response. But it was worth a try. I just sent them another text to the number provided on their website just now as well. Is calling them the best way? The site says to call to make an appointment but there isn't a verifying link like BTT.
If you can share your experiences with me through PM or reply here, that would be great. I been using BTT but want to try another agency with Chinese and japanses as well. Mu and Zen was great but its been crickets for weeks on the thread forum.
Thanks a head of time everyone!
[QUOTE=CasinoBlue;5976429]Hi all,
I'm trying to get verified with Xiao and reading the previous post and looking at the website layouts it seems to me true they are under one management.
I saw that they are only accepting Chinese clients only and some post saying they are accepting non-asian clients as well. I sent them a text like at 2:30 am and wasn't hoping to get back a response. But it was worth a try. I just sent them another text to the number provided on their website just now as well. Is calling them the best way? The site says to call to make an appointment but there isn't a verifying link like BTT.
If you can share your experiences with me through PM or reply here, that would be great. I been using BTT but want to try another agency with Chinese and japanses as well. Mu and Zen was great but its been crickets for weeks on the thread forum.
Thanks a head of time everyone![/QUOTE]All set here, I heard back via text and it all worked out. Thank you.
[QUOTE=BOS143;5975636]I have a feeling all 3 of these sites are run by the same group lmao. Tokoyo is the high end version of Xiami88888. Phoenix is just the medford version of Xiaomi.[/QUOTE]Has anyone had luck getting registered with any of these places? I tried to sign up with Tokoyo about a month ago, but they wouldn't take me since I'm not Chinese. They asked me over WhatsApp if I was American, Chinese, Korean, or Japanese. Said American and they instantly said they don't accept non-Chinese and proceeded to block me. They did not even video call with me either. I'm Curious if this is the same deal with phoenix or Xiaomi?
[QUOTE=CasinoBlue;5977066]All set here, I heard back via text and it all worked out. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Let us know how it goes.
Just visited them again and had one of the best experiences from 英23376;. She's apparently from Japan and is probably one the best looking and performing girls I've seen in an agency. Even BTT. She was really into it, actually speaks English and one of the best services I've gotten. If you get a chance, go visit her. She leaves in 3 days.
[QUOTE=BOS143;5977367]Just visited them again and had one of the best experiences from 英23376;. She's apparently from Japan and is probably one the best looking and performing girls I've seen in an agency. Even BTT. She was really into it, actually speaks English and one of the best services I've gotten. If you get a chance, go visit her. She leaves in 3 days.[/QUOTE]Prices have gone up in general. Most were 360 for 60 minutes, now 500 is most common.
[QUOTE=Mmmmmm69;5977610]Prices have gone up in general. Most were 360 for 60 minutes, now 500 is most common.[/QUOTE]Just tried to book through [URL]https://xiaomi88888.com/[/URL] .
Was using Google translator the entire time but when it got to the part where they were confirming the appointment he asked for a Drivers License and vax card and then said "oh, you're not Chinese." To which I replied, "nope."
Booker then said, "I didn't know that. We can't make any deals. Bye."
[QUOTE=DanTeal;5978365]Just tried to book through [URL]https://xiaomi88888.com/[/URL] .
Was using Google translator the entire time but when it got to the part where they were confirming the appointment he asked for a Drivers License and vax card and then said "oh, you're not Chinese." To which I replied, "nope."
Booker then said, "I didn't know that. We can't make any deals. Bye."[/QUOTE]Are you white or black? Some of the agencies MIGHT let you book if you're white. But almost all agencies I know won't if you're black. It's not them being racist or anything, just that the girls can't handle it LOL.
[QUOTE=BOS143;5978854]Are you white or black? Some of the agencies MIGHT let you book if you're white. But almost all agencies I know won't if you're black. It's not them being racist or anything, just that the girls can't handle it LOL.[/QUOTE]I am as White as they come.
[QUOTE=DanTeal;5978365]Just tried to book through [URL]https://xiaomi88888.com/[/URL] .
Was using Google translator the entire time but when it got to the part where they were confirming the appointment he asked for a Drivers License and vax card and then said "oh, you're not Chinese." To which I replied, "nope."
Booker then said, "I didn't know that. We can't make any deals. Bye."[/QUOTE]Yeah, same here. Bummed too I was already in the area for something else and ready to go haha. Tried to let me through and the booker was at least somewhat kind about it.
Anyone have any Japanese contacts, I had a sad BTT experience instead and just bored of Korean I guess.