Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Spike77;3656642]In my experience I have found most girls want between 400 - 500 to start off. Some I can talk down to 300. The ones that don't budge I just move on. There are so many women on here, it just takes a little work to find the right connection. I had a smoking hot palates instructor that just wanted 250 but service was rushed. I have 2 that want 300 per meet in walking distance from my house which is dangerous. My biggest hurdle is people like you who drive the prices up.[/QUOTE]This is exactly my experience as well. I'd much rather see a high end provider at those prices. The SB's I've seen also only want to go one round which hurts the value prop. Still searching for that gem!

[QUOTE=TwoMins;3658238]This is exactly my experience as well. I'd much rather see a high end provider at those prices. The SB's I've seen also only want to go one round which hurts the value prop. Still searching for that gem![/QUOTE]This will come as a shock to most on here but the more you have to pay, the less she actually likes you. What you're paying above 100-200 per visit is the amount she needs to hold her nose long enough for you to get what you want out of the visit. Bottom line, If she needs a lot of sugar to tolerate being with you, don't expect a mind-blowing night out of it.

Why can't I find anyone on SA?

Can someone tell me how to get an arrangement on SA?

PM's welocome.

I've had at least two women tell me there is a well known fb community group for Sugar Babies. So I am assuming they are using the forum the same way we are using ours (learning the ropes, get info on users, types of arrangements, costs, etc).

S77, There are a bunch of them with various names. Even more than one for SA. I have not found a pot of gold in any of them, but maybe there is a hidden gem within the bunch.

[QUOTE=Spike77;3658770]I've had at least two women tell me there is a well known fb community group for Sugar Babies. So I am assuming they are using the forum the same way we are using ours (learning the ropes, get info on users, types of arrangements, costs, etc).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TwoMins;3658238]This is exactly my experience as well. I'd much rather see a high end provider at those prices. The SB's I've seen also only want to go one round which hurts the value prop. Still searching for that gem![/QUOTE]Many toss out $400-$500 as the going in number without seeing pics. It seems the standard starting point.

[QUOTE=CuteBoyRandy4;3658769]Can someone tell me how to get an arrangement on SA?[/QUOTE]I don't consider myself an expert here but I do have some basic advice.

1. As a guy you *_must_* have a premium account. Pay the fee if you want to message girls back and forth you find interesting.

2. Be creative and witty in those ice-breaker messages. These girls get bombed with "hey" and "ppm?" (pay per meet) messages from us mongers. Make yourself stand out if you want her attention.

3. Be wary of bots. Various accounts that use the same picture might be a scam. OTOH, it may be a "pro" that got banned for being too blatant in message.

4. Never pay for a meet and greet. Period.

5. Lots of girls have "golden pussy syndrome" (GPS). They want stupid money for platonic arrangement. Take a pass on these stuck up bitches.

6. Do take the conversation to text / email. You'll get more pictures and now you're on her radar.

7. Don't be flake. If you agree to meet her, then go meet. You'll get lots of female flakes yourself. I certainly did. Don't add to the snow storm.

8. Most of these girls are "under the radar" (UTR). They are college kids looking for money or bored MILFs looking for a thrill. Some of them may be BP "pros" but in my experience, most are not. Don't be rude or too explicit at first. They need to warm up to you same as any "vanilla" relationship.

9. Try not to be stupid by thinking with the little head. I fell into a CL scam recently (see my recent post in that forum). Scams are out there and they will get your money if you are occasionally stupid like me.

10. Golden rule: Stay safe. Be on your guard. Watch out for scams, blackmail, mugging thugs, diseases and other harmful / dangerous elements of this hobby.

Hi this is Paul Sweeter.

I've been on Match, POF, Zoosk, and OKC.

There are tons of Malaysian and Russian scammers on there.

The woman all have "golden pussy's" & Looking for the white knight on his big horse to find her.

I've just been surfing SA. I was in Florida. I haven't paid for Premium. Yet.

Just got back. Seems like some over 40, which is my interest, are sincere to make a LTR. Long term arrangement.

Has anyone actually had a SD / SB relationship for any period of time?

How to find a sincere SB that has decent looks, good company,. No m&g fee, and a realistic pocketbook.

Thanks,. Paul S.

PM me if you'd rather.

[QUOTE=PaulSweeter;3660958]Hi this is Paul Sweeter.

I've been on Match, POF, Zoosk, and OKC.
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How to find a sincere SB that has decent looks, good company,. No m&g fee, and a realistic pocketbook.
[/QUOTE]Head over to the "Virginia / Richmond / Sugarbabies & arrangement " forum on here. It's the oldest and most active SB forum and can answer almost all your questions. If after several hours of reading a hundreds of posts you still have questions you can always post them here.

Here's a few pointers to get you started:

1. Again, never ever pay for a M&G.

2. Some girls are pro or semi-pro. If that's what you're after than go for it.

3. Many on there are just bored college girls looking for validation and seeing their "worth". They'll be on there every day for months and will never meet anyone let alone enter an arrangement. Spot those early and move on.

4. Platonic is another word for Kryptonite. Stay away.

5. A girl that says "I know my worth" or something to that effect in her profile is GPS and to be ignored.

6. Her profile is her best foot forward so if she sounds crazy in there she's military-grade bonkers.

7. The more you have to pay the less she likes you. The less she likes you the less interesting the main course will be. If all you want is a pretty dead starfish to look at then go ahead and fork out the 500-700 per visit.

8. Don't keep chasing girls that are just lukewarm. Establish contact and present yourself but if after that she's a cold fish move on (see point below).

9. The most valuable thing you can do is protect your time. There's is maybe, maybe 5% (I'm being generous) of the girls on there that are worth meeting. Your job is to discover them without wasting too much of your valuable time on the other 95%.

Finally, it's not for everyone. Try a month and see how it goes.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3661047]Head over to the "Virginia / Richmond / Sugarbabies & arrangement " forum on here. It's the oldest and most active SB forum and can answer almost all your questions. If after several hours of reading a hundreds of posts you still have questions you can always post them here.

Here's a few pointers to get you started:

1. Again, never ever pay for a M&G.

2. Some girls are pro or semi-pro. If that's what you're after than go for it.

3. Many on there are just bored college girls looking for validation and seeing their "worth". They'll be on there every day for months and will never meet anyone let alone enter an arrangement. Spot those early and move on.

4. Platonic is another word for Kryptonite. Stay away.

5. A girl that says "I know my worth" or something to that effect in her profile is GPS and to be ignored.

6. Her profile is her best foot forward so if she sounds crazy in there she's military-grade bonkers.

7. The more you have to pay the less she likes you. The less she likes you the less interesting the main course will be. If all you want is a pretty dead starfish to look at then go ahead and fork out the 500-700 per visit.

8. Don't keep chasing girls that are just lukewarm. Establish contact and present yourself but if after that she's a cold fish move on (see point below).

9. The most valuable thing you can do is protect your time. There's is maybe, maybe 5% (I'm being generous) of the girls on there that are worth meeting. Your job is to discover them without wasting too much of your valuable time on the other 95%.

Finally, it's not for everyone. Try a month and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Thanks again,. I'll see if I can get somewhere. The online dating is the same thing.

Very few good ones. P.S.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3661047]Head over to the "Virginia / Richmond / Sugarbabies & arrangement " forum on here. It's the oldest and most active SB forum and can answer almost all your questions. If after several hours of reading a hundreds of posts you still have questions you can always post them here.

Here's a few pointers to get you started:

1. Again, never ever pay for a M&G.

2. Some girls are pro or semi-pro. If that's what you're after than go for it.

3. Many on there are just bored college girls looking for validation and seeing their "worth". They'll be on there every day for months and will never meet anyone let alone enter an arrangement. Spot those early and move on.

4. Platonic is another word for Kryptonite. Stay away.

5. A girl that says "I know my worth" or something to that effect in her profile is GPS and to be ignored.

6. Her profile is her best foot forward so if she sounds crazy in there she's military-grade bonkers.

7. The more you have to pay the less she likes you. The less she likes you the less interesting the main course will be. If all you want is a pretty dead starfish to look at then go ahead and fork out the 500-700 per visit.

8. Don't keep chasing girls that are just lukewarm. Establish contact and present yourself but if after that she's a cold fish move on (see point below).

9. The most valuable thing you can do is protect your time. There's is maybe, maybe 5% (I'm being generous) of the girls on there that are worth meeting. Your job is to discover them without wasting too much of your valuable time on the other 95%.

Finally, it's not for everyone. Try a month and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing the Virginia / Richmond forum. Vast source of info on SA! I've yet to create my account as I'm going away for holidays, but I'm looking forward to jumping on when I get back.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3661047]Head over to the "Virginia / Richmond / Sugarbabies & arrangement " forum on here. It's the oldest and most active SB forum and can answer almost all your questions. If after several hours of reading a hundreds of posts you still have questions you can always post them here.

Here's a few pointers to get you started:

1. Again, never ever pay for a M&G.

2. Some girls are pro or semi-pro. If that's what you're after than go for it.

3. Many on there are just bored college girls looking for validation and seeing their "worth". They'll be on there every day for months and will never meet anyone let alone enter an arrangement. Spot those early and move on.

4. Platonic is another word for Kryptonite. Stay away.

5. A girl that says "I know my worth" or something to that effect in her profile is GPS and to be ignored.

6. Her profile is her best foot forward so if she sounds crazy in there she's military-grade bonkers.

7. The more you have to pay the less she likes you. The less she likes you the less interesting the main course will be. If all you want is a pretty dead starfish to look at then go ahead and fork out the 500-700 per visit.

8. Don't keep chasing girls that are just lukewarm. Establish contact and present yourself but if after that she's a cold fish move on (see point below).

9. The most valuable thing you can do is protect your time. There's is maybe, maybe 5% (I'm being generous) of the girls on there that are worth meeting. Your job is to discover them without wasting too much of your valuable time on the other 95%.

Finally, it's not for everyone. Try a month and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with line 3 , 4, 5.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/136fd5cf-3c90-4faf-abb2-38d9888d655f[/URL]

Wants 600 without asking for my pic. Countered with 300 for 2 hours. She said no thanks.

[QUOTE=Rome400;3663035][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/136fd5cf-3c90-4faf-abb2-38d9888d655f[/URL]

Wants 600 without asking for my pic. Countered with 300 for 2 hours. She said no thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro good to know. I messaged her earlier.

From the projects, no transportation. Kind of flaky but I thought she was hot (in a project girl way LOL!) Will take it in all holes, raw with a little effort. Asks for $300 but can be had for a little less.

Let me know if any of you dogs see her, Haha.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0a08f72b-cb77-1265-232d-54b3be2f7f80[/URL]

But for me Sarahs account is deactivated 2 hours after your post. It says she may have blocked you or disabled her account.

A word to the wise also. I'm a world class shit talker, and you can actually get a time out from SA. Some girl offered me something ridiculous and I countered with 20.00 for her to lick my ass, and was given a 24 hour time out where I could not log in or anything. It said I was suspended for repeated violations but I'm sure that was the one that triggered it.

Made a profile and going through reading profiles. They women / girls have got to be kidding.

They think men are going to mentor them, buy them things, spend time with them platonically, and then pay them with out having sex? Hahahaha.

Can't count how many profiles say no sex or looking to make a connection but not for sex, want to be taken out and shown a good time and get paid for it. Again hahahahah.

Serious question to the guys who have been on SA for a while. How many times do you get a girl there that is actually thinking they are going to get paid to hang out and eat or shop or go to the movies with you?

Is all of that crap just a front so you don't think they will just meet and bang your brains out?

Please give me some idea of what is up there before I sign up.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=YLonen;3664118]Made a profile and going through reading profiles. They women / girls have got to be kidding.

They think men are going to mentor them, buy them things, spend time with them platonically, and then pay them with out having sex? Hahahaha.

Can't count how many profiles say no sex or looking to make a connection but not for sex, want to be taken out and shown a good time and get paid for it. Again hahahahah.

Serious question to the guys who have been on SA for a while. How many times do you get a girl there that is actually thinking they are going to get paid to hang out and eat or shop or go to the movies with you?

Is all of that crap just a front so you don't think they will just meet and bang your brains out?

Please give me some idea of what is up there before I sign up.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Nope those are the ones you don't waste your time with, I actually am glad when they put that in their profile as its not someone I message. Once in a whilie there is someone that fits what I'm looking for and I might try but its always fruitless.

[QUOTE=Jack617;3663780]From the projects, no transportation. Kind of flaky but I thought she was hot (in a project girl way LOL!) Will take it in all holes, raw with a little effort. Asks for $300 but can be had for a little less.

Let me know if any of you dogs see her, Haha.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0a08f72b-cb77-1265-232d-54b3be2f7f80[/URL][/QUOTE]Pretty sure I saw this one. I didn't directly ask for anything but for her "time" and she was like a emotional rollcoaster and she looks way worse in person. Drugged out.

[QUOTE=YLonen;3664118]Made a profile and going through reading profiles. They women / girls have got to be kidding.

They think men are going to mentor them, buy them things, spend time with them platonically, and then pay them with out having sex? Hahahaha.

Can't count how many profiles say no sex or looking to make a connection but not for sex, want to be taken out and shown a good time and get paid for it. Again hahahahah.

Serious question to the guys who have been on SA for a while. How many times do you get a girl there that is actually thinking they are going to get paid to hang out and eat or shop or go to the movies with you?

Is all of that crap just a front so you don't think they will just meet and bang your brains out?

Please give me some idea of what is up there before I sign up.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]In my experience it isn't a front. I had one who wanted me to pay her to send me daily inspirational txt's. Given the amount who expect platonic arrangements there has to some sorry assholes paying them for this nonsense.

Girls that say platonic or no-intimacy in their profile mean it. They won't change their mind after they meet you. A year ago you came across platonic once in a long while. Now it's every third profile. There's been a significant shift in girls offering less and less and expecting more.

It's a recurring theme on SA. Girls that talk at length about "me, me, me, what I want, what you'll give me, I have high expectations, we'll do all these things (travel, fine dining, shopping) for me, me, me, me". In the end you, the SD, are just a prop for these girls. What you might want or need as a SD is irrelevant and unimportant to them. It's the result of a combination of them thinking they're "unique" and "special" and seeing the guys as lonely and desperate. They never stop for a minute to think that the guys with something to offer a SB, those that have their shit together and would like a long term arrangement, would never waste a single minute of their time with them.

[QUOTE=YLonen;3664118]Made a profile and going through reading profiles. They women / girls have got to be kidding.

They think men are going to mentor them, buy them things, spend time with them platonically, and then pay them with out having sex? Hahahaha.

Can't count how many profiles say no sex or looking to make a connection but not for sex, want to be taken out and shown a good time and get paid for it. Again hahahahah.

Serious question to the guys who have been on SA for a while. How many times do you get a girl there that is actually thinking they are going to get paid to hang out and eat or shop or go to the movies with you?

Is all of that crap just a front so you don't think they will just meet and bang your brains out?

Please give me some idea of what is up there before I sign up.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3664393]Girls that say platonic or no-intimacy in their profile mean it. They won't change their mind after they meet you. A year ago you came across platonic once in a long while. Now it's every third profile. There's been a significant shift in girls offering less and less and expecting more.

It's a recurring theme on SA. Girls that talk at length about "me, me, me, what I want, what you'll give me, I have high expectations, we'll do all these things (travel, fine dining, shopping) for me, me, me, me". In the end you, the SD, are just a prop for these girls. What you might want or need as a SD is irrelevant and unimportant to them. It's the result of a combination of them thinking they're "unique" and "special" and seeing the guys as lonely and desperate. They never stop for a minute to think that the guys with something to offer a SB, those that have their shit together and would like a long term arrangement, would never waste a single minute of their time with them.[/QUOTE]You sum up my exact experience in a nutshell. There's not much that is mutually beneficial.

[QUOTE=TwoMins;3664316]In my experience it isn't a front. I had one who wanted me to pay her to send me daily inspirational txt's. Given the amount who expect platonic arrangements there has to some sorry assholes paying them for this nonsense.[/QUOTE]I just repeated with one today. She just left my house. She said she enjoyed having sex with me because she's a single mom and most of the guys she deals with on here don't want sex, just companionship, aka arm candy. Lot's of older guys that don't care about sex anymore and can afford it. She stated she got 400 from a guy the other night, no sex. Seeing how tight she was, I believe her.

[QUOTE=Spike77;3664610]I just repeated with one today. She just left my house. She said she enjoyed having sex with me because she's a single mom and most of the guys she deals with on here don't want sex, just companionship, aka arm candy. Lot's of older guys that don't care about sex anymore and can afford it. She stated she got 400 from a guy the other night, no sex. Seeing how tight she was, I believe her.[/QUOTE]This has to be true and I will never understand it.

Either you or the customer. These girls telling you they get this much for platonic are selling a load of crap.

Guys paying 400 for company are few and far between.

Most of these girls that say platonic thier profiles disappear in a few weeks.

Headiing to Colombia for a month at new years and although girls are easy to find, I've been using SA to line some up. Going rate down there is 40-66. And overnites are 120.

[QUOTE=Rome400;3664676]Either you or the customer. These girls telling you they get this much for platonic are selling a load of crap.

Guys paying 400 for company are few and far between.

Most of these girls that say platonic thier profiles disappear in a few weeks.

Headiing to Colombia for a month at new years and although girls are easy to find, I've been using SA to line some up. Going rate down there is 40-66. And overnites are 120.[/QUOTE]Who knows. She could be full of crap. I already have an arrangement with her is 300 which includes allowing me taking pics and vids so not sure why should would lie to me.

I haven't interviewed every girl on this site nor have I monitored all their status so I cannot produce stats either way. And just because a girl leaves the site doesn't mean she didn't find what she is looking for. Some are just looking for one guy and are set. Not to say there aren't pros on here but it is a sugar daddy site not backpage.

Just sharing my experience and my experience is you can find what you are looking for but it is going to take some time and effort so be prepared and know what you are getting into when joining.

Spike I'm not questioning you. I think every girl that I've ever been with always tells me their last sugar daddy gave them more. Its an attempt to tell you that your getting a bargain or maybe make you feel guilty. Girl was letting me plow her for 3 hours for 300 , and she goes can you do any better my last arrangement I was getting 1000. My response sorry this is all that my budget allows.

It's a con. They think they can make you feel guilty and up the allowance. My answer is always "sweetie, if you were making so much money from your previous SD and giving up nothing, why aren't you with him now? It's *always* a way to make you feel like a chump and extract more sugar. All these plain and plump (and sometimes just fat) girls telling me they were getting 500 a visit from a previous SD. I'm talking a 3/10 or 4/10 here. They must really take us for complete idiots to even try.

Don't ask me how I know but actual models, 5'11" size 1 dress and with an agency (not pretend models who "freelance") can be had for a lot less than 4-500 if she happens to like you. So when a plain jane tells me she's used to getting 5-600 per visit I just laugh and shrug.

If a girl has had an arrangement before I never even ask what she was getting. Simply because more often than not she will flat out lie about what she did with him (always a bit of fooling around but no-sex.) and always for hundreds and hundreds every time. It is so predictable and so full of it.

[QUOTE=Rome400;3664853]Spike I'm not questioning you. I think every girl that I've ever been with always tells me their last sugar daddy gave them more. Its an attempt to tell you that your getting a bargain or maybe make you feel guilty. Girl was letting me plow her for 3 hours for 300 , and she goes can you do any better my last arrangement I was getting 1000. My response sorry this is all that my budget allows.[/QUOTE]

Wow! Great info and feed back guys. Appreciate it. Way too many girls on there that think guys are just starved for any female attention and will.

Take anything they can get from them. LOL It's laughable what some of them put, they are really clueless or so self absorbed.

What do you guys do about pictures, I really do not want to post my real picture on that site. I am very private and do not want it on there.

Do you post any pictures? Do the girls really care if you post a picture or not?

Do you post your real pictures?

Thanks for all the help, suggestions.

[QUOTE=YLonen;3665213]Wow! Great info and feed back guys. Appreciate it. Way too many girls on there that think guys are just starved for any female attention and will.

Take anything they can get from them. LOL It's laughable what some of them put, they are really clueless or so self absorbed.

What do you guys do about pictures, I really do not want to post my real picture on that site. I am very private and do not want it on there.

Do you post any pictures? Do the girls really care if you post a picture or not?

Do you post your real pictures?

Thanks for all the help, suggestions.[/QUOTE]Definitely don't post any good pics in your public profile. There are scams run there like predatoralerts that take your pics and will try to extort you to get them taken down. I have received plenty of interest without sharing my pics. You can do just fine without them.

Avoid this one guys.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9b78680a-2a81-457d-82d7-103f184f944d[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jack617;3663780]From the projects, no transportation. Kind of flaky but I thought she was hot (in a project girl way LOL!) Will take it in all holes, raw with a little effort. Asks for $300 but can be had for a little less.

Let me know if any of you dogs see her, Haha.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0a08f72b-cb77-1265-232d-54b3be2f7f80[/URL][/QUOTE]Concur with this but she is a f-uped chick. Will blow you for short dough in your car. Blew deep in her ass one night, uncovered and she didn't bat an eye. Since I am new here will share her digits with legit members to gain some cred.

[QUOTE=TwoMins;3651493]I contacted her when she first joined and she wouldn't come of the M&G fee. Things went cold after I stood my ground. Interested to hear how it goes for you. She's definitely hot. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the 411 on this. She 'Favorited' me within in 1 hr of sign-up. Thought I was in for a good time but for what you guys posted. Another rapid responder said her friends get 500-1000 per meet and don't host. Another could host and wanted 400-500. Sensed she was in a money crunch and negotiated down. Was a real sex-dynamo but just not my type at all (too curvy) and 420. Still looking for the SB.

I searched my old mail for sarah.

She blocked me cause I said she looks like she does heroin, and I called her a hooker cause she was negotiating sex acts before she even saw my pics.

Woke up yesterday and was locked out. I am a cheapo and usually line up a bunch of chicks so I only need to renew every 60 days before I need new numbers. I did not get the renew or endns soon messages that I had previously gotten. I have a bunch of phone numbers and unfinished business that I am now unable to access, unless I want to shell out 80 again, and am traveling for most of January so that would be pointless.

[QUOTE=Rome400;3669244]Woke up yesterday and was locked out. I am a cheapo and usually line up a bunch of chicks so I only need to renew every 60 days before I need new numbers. I did not get the renew or endns soon messages that I had previously gotten. I have a bunch of phone numbers and unfinished business that I am now unable to access, unless I want to shell out 80 again, and am traveling for most of January so that would be pointless.[/QUOTE]If a girl reports you SA will put you on a 24 hour time out. If you get more complaints they reserve the right to put you on permanent time out, no questions asked, no refunds. Not sure if either apply or if you can sign in again next month, pay your dough and get back in.

This little princess wants $10 k / month for a PLATONIC gig. If I was currently a VIP I would so fuck with her.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/11c85ed8-9133-4f18-a778-34bc5475ceb4[/URL]

BTW, anytime I see a profile that says platonic I hit "hide member" then I never see that BS profile again.

I've been reading your reports and of the contacts that I liked which for me need to be all over 35.

So I paid for the premium last night. It tells you how many days and counting when you log in.

What I am finding is that there are a lot of ladies on there. They are using it for a dating site.

Then the other group is using it for money.

They either want a really big gift,. Taken on a trip or a monthly amount.

How to weed it all out?

I have some screen shots of some comments.

One of them said $500 for a one time session, whatever that means.

I am an older guy looking for FWB, I'd like to pay BP rates at the most. Or if its a steady thing,. Not sure what the monthly amount should be.

Now that I am "live" with the premium, I'm looking to figure out my "Target" lady. And not the high end ones.

Thanks,. P.S.

Spoke to a very lovely lady from Providence in my Target age of 40.

We are going to make an arrangement after a Meetup. She didn't indicate any fee for M&G. But she has a $300 per Weekend kind of arrangement in her proposal. That does not include the drinks, dancing, and dinners during the weekend. It does include staying over and GFE / FS. So in some ways cheaper than POF & Zoosk with so many failed first dates never getting anywhere. Or 200 for BP. Some good some bad and no sleepover.

What do you guys think?

Thanks,. Paul S.

See this attached tirade.

Starts with **holy sh*.

Link:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1813741b-0656-88f2-3c34-9071629da684?utm_source=sa&utm_medium=email&utm_term=cta&utm_content=rollup&utm_campaign=view&ref=email-sa-view-rollup-cta&locale=en_US[/URL]