Anyone have experience with Wanda in OTR?
After an encounter with someone else the other day, met Wanda who seems like a good find (except her guy who used to be Cat's dude...) I have not sampled her wares, but hope to soon. Anyone have experience with her?
On an ominous note, saw Sauna the same day--she is totally out of it, I am sure doing H. She kept nodding off, was barely coherant. I wish I knew something I could do to help her. At the rate she is going, she will become yet another statistic of the street.
Chrissy from Chat Line in Northside?
Does anyone know anything about a girl who might frequent the chatlines by the name of "Chrissy"? She said she is in the Northside area and talked like she might be a possible GFE. I think she is Black, but let me know if any of you have every met a girl by this name in the Northside area and what you thought of her.
Harris782
Gardner...RTFF before sounding off
It took me less than 5 minutes to search the Cincy forum on the OTR. Within 5 minutes I had street names and a map that someone posted of the area. I had no problems mongering in Cincy based on the info on this post. Use the search function of this website and you'll find what you need.
For somone who posts alot, you should know better than to blast the Cincy dudes. Just chill out and learn how to use the search function...and RTFF.
Doc
Thanks Dr. Know for the kudos on my map! (Link included)
In spite of the criticism, I still find Over the Rhine a productive area to monger. Yes, one has to use common sense, and yes, if you do quite a bit of mongering, you get an occasional rip off, and yes, many of the SWs on the street are plain worn out and broken down. But... There are still fine SWs out there, and for me, the prowl is part of the thrill.
I have posted a list of cautions previously if you are interested.
Here is the map I posted a while back if you are interested:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=17425[/url]
Giani
[QUOTE=Dr_Know]It took me less than 5 minutes to search the Cincy forum on the OTR. Within 5 minutes I had street names and a map that someone posted of the area. I had no problems mongering in Cincy based on the info on this post. Use the search function of this website and you'll find what you need.
For somone who posts alot, you should know better than to blast the Cincy dudes. Just chill out and learn how to use the search function...and RTFF.
Doc[/QUOTE]
TV Cameras monitoring street activities in OTR...
You have doubtless heard that TV cameras have apparently been mounted in four Cincy neighborhoods, including OTR. The cops are claiming that the cameras have reduced crime in those areas... (I wonder.) They claim camera resolution fine enough to "count the number of rocks of cocaine in a dealer's hand."
My question/request. Has anyone seen these cameras? Does anyone have a digital camera to take a picture and post it on this forum so we know what to look for? It would be a service to all of us to be able to spot the cameras mounted (presumably) on utility poles. Of course, if they are inside an overlooking building, that would be more difficult to detect.
I have asked this question before, but now that the cameras are apparently in place and functional, it should be of concern to mongers.
Be safe, Giani
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Here is what Washington,DC's surveillance cameras look like...
I do not know if the same cameras are being used in Cincinnati, but this article discusses them with maps and images:
[url]http://www.notbored.org/dc-police.html[/url]
I have attached a picture of the street surveillance camera being used in DC. It seems to me that these should be fairly easy to spot. Maybe they would be easy to disable? Not that I would suggest such a thing.
Hamilton Any Where, Any Where
I know Hamilton has had a crack down, but East Ave. has been really dead the past month or so. Has the action moved to another part of town?
OTR Eve??? Not so trustworthy... (I remind myself of the rules.)
Eve has short dark hair, medium-slim build, fairly nice looking, hangs with other SWs on McMK nr Vine around 11:30 AM. Seemed like a good bet for a while. Well spoken, early twenties.
But... she didn't like the spot I usually use, drove around for a while, nothing was right for her. Directed me to a parking lot behind an apartment building on Maplewood near McMillian. She says she has a girlfriend who will let us use her apartment for free. Asks for the 0.2 agreed on for BJ. [Alert, alert, alert... no funds exchanged until afterward....] This fool gives it to her, she says "I'll tell her we are coming, you stay here." She was out of the car so fast that by the time my alert system actually DID go off, she was around the corner and into the building. You can guess, that was the last I saw of her...
There were several early warning signs--anytime none of YOUR places are good enough should put you on alert. And OF COURSE, never front the money to a SW you have not met before--not even 0.2 and she seems to have all good qualities.
Here is the post I made a while back and did not use my larger brain...
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=360446#post360446[/url]
The rules:
1) NEVER pay up front. If you must, give a token, the rest to be paid afterward.
2) Be clear about what you would like, get a clear indication that they are willing. If there is hesitation, part company as quickly as you can.
3) Pick your spot, not theirs. If they don't like it, part company as quickly as you can.
4) Only carry as much $$ as you are willing to lose... I always stash my wallet and extra cash in a hidden spot.
5) Do not let outside people get involved. No answering doors, no second girls, no nothing. You are asking for serious problems.
6) When confronted with a dangerous situation, do not get hostile or seriously argumentative. Tempers flair quickly, to what extent, you may not want to learn. GIVE IT UP. After all, you stashed your wallet and extra $$, right?
If you ARE ripped off, publicize the hell out of it on this board with as much detail as you can. Educate the rest of us about what mistakes you might not make again, and detailed description of the SW, exactly where, when, how you connected.
Be safe all!
Giani
RE: OTR Eve??? Not so trustworthy... (I remind myself of the rules.)
Giani- While reading your report, it reminded me of an interview with Carson Palmer this week where he was discussing how things went wrong on his intentinal grounding call last Sunday. It just goes to show that even when you've been playing like an MVP, sometimes you can make slip and have to pay the price. But in the end you can still come back and win the game.
Keep on hunting.
Angel??? Good luck. Sauna? It IS a sad situation.
Angel is a cute young thing with great breasts and zero reliability. I tried several times to connect (she actually had digits for a while--no longer functional) and she would give time and place, and no show. I am still interested to hear if anyone actually connects with her. My suspicion is that she would be maximally detached...
Sauna... Yes--great ass, formerly vivacious personality, friendly, engaging. I saw her a month ago on the street. She has descended into H Hell. (On the street, they call heroin "dog food..." ) Barely conscious, nodding mid sentence. I wish there were something to do to help her. Barely a glimmer of who she used to be. It is a paradox of the street. I serious worry about her.
[QUOTE=smallfry]Saw Sauna the other day. What a waste with such a nice ASS. When she got back out of jail a couple of months ago she really has gone downhill.
Has anyone been with the cute blonde. Her name is Angel. I see her with Sauna from time to time but when I try to catch her she gets picked up. Did get a free show last week Cincinnati's finest Fire Department stopped in the big red truck and she flashed her tit's. Not much to look at but you have to give credit to a girl willing to provide fun the people that protect our lives/homes. I guess they though she was a fine pussy caught in a tree. HA HA[/QUOTE]
Prices-We set the market price Not Them
Listen guys I was reading around other boards and got a little upset. Some of you guys are messing the pricing up for everyone. Wouldn't you like to get FS for. 20 rather than. 50 no matter what the girl looked like. I mean Angel is a hot looker compared to most but she is no different than the others. When you guys accept the high price they expect that everyone should pay this same high price. And also think about it. We know that there going to go and smoke with the money but don't you think they will spend more time on the streets trying to make money that sitting up smoking if we paid them less. A. 20 smoke compared to a. 50 smoke is a big difference. I don't know about you guys but I hate having to drive around and waiting for girls to come out. Think that winter is coming and the more often they are out the less money we will have to spend on these ridiculous gas prices.
Remember Fellas the ladies really need us more than we need them. We can easily drive to another city or location. Even the AMPS are nice sometime. But the Girls are generally stuck in the same place which means that we have to set the prices.
Try this and see if it works. "I'm actually on my lunch break and all I brought was. 20" She will say that she will do oral for that but quickly shoot back "Yeah but I really want to FS" "Maybe I will try back another time"
If a girl hears this from several different people and we stick to this price, Trust me that. 20 will begin to look real attractive to her. Use this strategy on the Great looking girls and even the one that are barley worth looking at. It will help everyone.
Please don't take this the wrong way. Just trying to offer a bit of help for all of us. I know that I can't be the only one that feels this way.
Smallfry
Great Advice .... Hope Folks Get It !!!!
GIANI,
GLAD TO KNOW YOU GOT YOUR NAME BACK and YOU ARE POSTING UNDER IT.
I see you have had it for a while now!
That was excellent advice. I have just seen people do some really unique things that seem to defy common sense or Uncommon Sense. I just let them go and hope our pathes don't cross, especially at a bad time. I get Private mail from folks asking question that they don't need me to answer, especially if they take a little extra time to seach this site, and all the post. If they think of it like they from if they were investing money, which basically they are, they/people would investigate, search, and back check inform. Then they would have their own "Quik Ref." data base. This is why I have just stopped giving specific info, and I keep it extremely general. Just the other day I saw a man trying to pick up a girl who looked like a fish out of water, and he never saw the cops coming in the opposite direction. BUSTED !!! He got LUCKY, because they let him go and took the girl.
So Giani (G-Man), you will be top post on this site so school them well. I have found a lot of quiet places that the part timers work out of. I plan to keep them to myself, until someone else post about them. I have had my posted ggft, moved off their spots and out of the area. Now they work out of areas that basically does not have sw walking the area that are obvious.
The OTR clubs are gone, and MAIN St., is the place. In the BARs, are the weekend tricks, and you can't get them on the cheap anymore. They know the score. LE has made quality very rare, so through the NOSE you must pay. I just picked up last weekend two walking to the bar that I knew from the Clifton area. We did a quickie, and off they went. No one else would get the price I paid, because I knew them during their heavy drug use days. And I treated them with respect. It is still paying off.
As for other areas, unless you know people in those areas, and they keep you informed on what is going on in the area, you could be in trouble, with more than just the police. Know your area will, and read the archived POST. And have a person in the area you can go to, to cover yourself, if followed by LE, or at least a detailed map to point out that you are lost. It makes a good accuse for being in a bad area, and not looking like you are trying to score.
WORD !
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They Still Won't Get It !!!!
YOU HAVE GIVEN EXCELLENT ADVICE, BUT ?
BUT .... THEY/WE/THEM/US, WILL NEVER GET IT ! I have been preaching this since my first days on this board before the 2-3 upgrades. Back when you had to email Jackson the post, and it got post about a week later.
The problem is "QUALITY", and the lack of it. Folks will pay the higher price to get a decent SW. I have had to even go up a few more dollars at first then I work them down as I get with them, and I use a little respect, and charm, to get MY Price, to what I regularly will pay.
And if you are dealing out of town, are really stuck because you are not in town long enough to put in price controls unless you are willing to go way down in QUALITY. If you are dealing in an area like in the old day, then the girls will set a price , and they all stuck to it, unless it is a very slow day, or they need to quickly make a lot of money. If you will be in town from 1-3 week you can work some magic in price.
OTHERWISE, in Cincy, look to pay on the street 40-50 for decent quality, 30-40, for just decent, and less for everything else. Even the music now is telling the girls to charge 50-100 and up. It is even in some movies.
I STILL MUST AGREE THAT .... If everyone would commit to holding the price down, then we "ALL" really would benefit. It is the Parttime, Passive, Sucker type Monger that will screw things up everytime .... EVERYTIME !
IF THE SW WANT MORE MONEY, then be willing to kick her AZZ out, give her nothing, and pick up a lesser SW. After a couple of those, she will be willing to taKe Less.
BUT, after and hour of searching and you find a quality SW who wants more, what can you do. IN THIS CITY, we have very little choice. VERY LITTLE !
WORD !
[QUOTE=smallfry]Listen guys I was reading around other boards and got a little upset. Some of you guys are messing the pricing up for everyone. Wouldn't you like to get FS for. 20 rather than. 50 no matter what the girl looked like. I mean Angel is a hot looker compared to most but she is no different than the others. When you guys accept the high price they expect that everyone should pay this same high price. And also think about it. We know that there going to go and smoke with the money but don't you think they will spend more time on the streets trying to make money that sitting up smoking if we paid them less. A. 20 smoke compared to a. 50 smoke is a big difference. I don't know about you guys but I hate having to drive around and waiting for girls to come out. Think that winter is coming and the more often they are out the less money we will have to spend on these ridiculous gas prices.
Remember Fellas the ladies really need us more than we need them. We can easily drive to another city or location. Even the AMPS are nice sometime. But the Girls are generally stuck in the same place which means that we have to set the prices.
Try this and see if it works. "I'm actually on my lunch break and all I brought was. 20" She will say that she will do oral for that but quickly shoot back "Yeah but I really want to FS" "Maybe I will try back another time"
If a girl hears this from several different people and we stick to this price, Trust me that. 20 will begin to look real attractive to her. Use this strategy on the Great looking girls and even the one that are barley worth looking at. It will help everyone.
Please don't take this the wrong way. Just trying to offer a bit of help for all of us. I know that I can't be the only one that feels this way.
Smallfry[/QUOTE]
This Aint like buying gas....
Fellas this isn't like buying gas in which case you have a limited group of suppliers that are all in the bed with eachother. As far as them coming in different types just remember this. When you go to a dollar store if you go to another dollar store 9 times out of 10 the exact same item or possibly with a little variation will be there and it will still cost 1 dollar.
I have had mellisa with the fake tits for. 20 and this is when she wasn't totally fucked. And the list continues. Sauna, if youv'e been to hamilton nina(who just went back to jail for a year), ba(if anyone else knows her), babygirl(when she wasn't pregnant). And the list can go on. But the one thing we have to remind them is that we don't have to get the worst girl if we can't them. I may pay only. 20 but I still treat them with respect and good light conversation. Even things like how is your day can save you a few bucks. If we get them to realize a girl is a girl things will change don't accept the worst substitute. Pick them up in the morning and if you don't like the price but pick them up later that night if possible when they have been out waiting to hit a lick and trust me they will learn.
Word up you have been a legend for me since I first found this sight. I am glad to see that you are still posting and educating people that are new to the board, because I tell you this it's the pits when I'm out and see people making rookie mistakes out here.
As far as hamilton. Stay away. Its a waste of time and there are only 4 girls that are left that have not been arrested. This summer was hard for hamilton and hopefully 6 months from now when everyone gets out things will get better. Honestly hamilton has the better women compared to the nasti but they also have a higher number of city and county officers working to stop the game.
Word up get at me some time. I have some girls that can truly appreciate a true king of the game.
Report submitted to Dayton you might be interested in...
I posted a couple pictures and a story here if you are interested:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=392482#post392482[/url]
Giani
Has any one seen Sauna lately?
Sauna has been mentioned several times recently on this forum, and I am hoping that someone has in fact seen her recently. The last time I saw her, she was in an obvious state of decline, "doin' the dog food" and nodding off seriously.
She has a good heart, and her technique outstanding. If you have info on her I would like to know it.
Giani
Must Read.....To Keep Safe(Sighted Camera)
The cameras are there guys but you really have to look around. If anyone has been up in the Walnut Hills area they may have seen it. It is on a side street Right off of Kemper. It is the 1st street on the right and its a 1 way coming toward Kemper. The Cam sits on top of the back corner of the building and looks toward Kemper and up and down the 1 way. Saw some guy in a van pick up a chick and she was in plain view of the camera on Kemper. Poor bastard didn't know it was there. If you are coming down the 1 way there are signs posted(obviously discretly) of the camera being upon you. Stay safe fellas and don't always look for the cameras to be on the main street just to catch you. If you don't know the area it would be Kemper Avenue which is 1 block down from the corner of MCMillian and Gilbert which is Peoples Corner. Keep going down Mcmillian and Turn right when you get to Kemper and the street is on your Right.
Also Giani, I have seen Sauna and damn she looks bad. Sores on her face and The up and down attitude to follow. Saw her when I stopped by Shell and the corner store. She was very upset because she left her purse in a dates car and he drove of with her purse and all her money.
ONCE .... The Weather Turn Colder .... Get Smart !!!!
Quick Note .... Smallfly, Please give me a private message, to get the number of Meridith.
OKAY FOLKS GET SMART .... LITERALLY !!!! Once the weather turns cold like it has started, the SW are NOT out like in the warm weather, but this you know. What you will need to do is gather more valid numbers, even if they never have time on them or are hardly ever on. It is a start, but keep your number private, and use a fake name for her use.
Learn to meet at around about time, on specific days. Find locations/places off the Main strip they like to hang at. It will keep you from circling one area, and have her introduces you to a few of her friends you can get with also. If they are out you can have them direct you to her, or just get with them. Take calling them from a decent real phone booth. Saves time on your phone, and gives them a place to walk to and met at. Keep a few cold beers/pops in the car, to give them, just a good thing to do. Keep a Sharpie type pen, so you can write on anything, especially in quick, tight times.
Keeping your car a little over heated, will help keep a SW in your car longer on a cold day, if you can stand the heat. Each of these SW's will have a warming place, once it really gets cold, so ask them where it is, they will give you a round about spot, because the can't alway be specific.
Never leave your money in sight, or in an open shirt pocket viewable, because a good hug can relieve you of it with a fast hand. NEVER, perform in your car, no matter how cold it is. FIND a warm spot, or ask her for a spot. She will normally have one.
Keep the PRICE LOW (20-25), because they will be glad to get out of the COLD. Try not to pull directly over. Let them walk up to you by parking 3-4 cars away, "TAKE YOUR DAMN FOOT OFF THE BRAKE", put it in park and quickly cut your lights. Never let her get in leaving the door open because the inside and door lights will be on. NEVER EVER TALK THROUGH THE WINDOW, ABOUT ANYTHING, HAVE THEM GET IN THE CAR THEN TAKE CARE !!!
This Just Some Cold Weather UnCommon Sense, beause Common Sense is "NOT" Common .... and the Cold Weather Concentrates Everyone Needs ??
WORD !
Add To This Post With Your Advice, Even If It Has Already Been Said !!!!
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