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[QUOTE=Any Mouse; 1781721]The experiences of an investigative reporter in Vermont. He uses resources just like you and I, and we wonder why some spots have problems!

[url]http://www.7dvt.com/2013inside-vermonts-asian-sex-market[/url][/QUOTE]Bingo! Some mongers on here give the argument that LE already knows the names of these establishments so no need to be all cutesy with the reviews. Well I'm not worried about LE, I'm more worried about the regular civilian Joe Blows, either some goody two shoes or an investigative reporter like the one in the article, coming across monger boards where there is too much info being posted.

[QUOTE=Guitarman1; 1784255]The whole human traffic in an AMP is ridiculous. These LE agencies are just trying to make it sound better that they raided an AMP instead of a crack house.

I had mentioned to one girl last year that after leaving the MP I was going house hunting. She started educating me on house prices where she was getting ready to buy. She actually knew a lot about the buying process and prices in the different areas she she was looking at.

One girl just picked my stuff up and followed me. I was expecting her to hand my stuff back when she let me out, but she followed me all the way to the car.

I have also been to an AMP where there was only 1 girl working in the entire place. No mamasan, no other girls, just her.

I did have a girl tell me she was staying at the MP. She said she took the spot in DC because she'd been told there was good money to be made. She said she lived in NY and was not staying permanently so didn't want to spend the money getting a place. She said it is a common practice for the girls to rotate to different areas if the opportunity to make good money comes up.[/QUOTE]I've met girls at AMPs who gave me their cell phone numbers, and one girl asked me to pick her up at the end of her last day at 1818. I took her sightseeing for a few hours, browsed a record store with her, sat in a coffee shop for a while, then took her to the bus station. Another girl asked if I wouldn't mind picking her up at the spa and driving her to BWI, because she was flying to Vegas for vacation.

Both girls showed me their passports, which were NOT taken away to keep them trapped. They said they worked long hours in AMPs to save up a lot of money quickly, then take a nice vacation and buy expensive shoes and purses.

Don't know if anyone (Ginger Man, are you reading this?) remembers Sue from the spa on 14th St. Many years ago (she was famous for her toe-sucking technique) , but she gave me her number, and I spoke to her a few times, until the night I called and her American boyfriend asked who was on the phone, then took it from her and told me she wasn't interested in talking to me anymore.

Saying all AMPs are trafficking is like saying that all moonshine is poison that will make you blind. The bad actors are used to go after everyone, and the real issue is control, not safety.

[QUOTE=Any Mouse; 1781721]The experiences of an investigative reporter in Vermont. He uses resources just like you and I, and we wonder why some spots have problems!

[url]http://www.7dvt.com/2013inside-vermonts-asian-sex-market[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link, interesting read, especially the local criminal investigation that prompted his investigative piece. I wouldn't be too quick to extrapolate our experiences around here-a major metro area with a sizable Asian population-to places like Bennington Vermont. I can't see money necessarily working as the sole inducement for women to travel there to work.

Not very informative for details, but a needed read.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/more-than-20-men-arrested-in-fairfax-prostitution-sting/2013/08/21/2f0a6fca-0a61-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html[/url]

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You got that right. I`ve had them come crash at my house, sleep for 2-days eat sleep eat sleep then wake up & ready to go taking me out on their dime for weeks at a time!

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1784554]I've met girls at AMPs who gave me their cell phone numbers, and one girl asked me to pick her up at the end of her last day at 1818. I took her sightseeing for a few hours, browsed a record store with her, sat in a coffee shop for a while, then took her to the bus station. Another girl asked if I wouldn't mind picking her up at the spa and driving her to BWI, because she was flying to Vegas for vacation.

Both girls showed me their passports, which were NOT taken away to keep them trapped. They said they worked long hours in AMPs to save up a lot of money quickly, then take a nice vacation and buy expensive shoes and purses.

Don't know if anyone (Ginger Man, are you reading this?) remembers Sue from the spa on 14th St. Many years ago (she was famous for her toe-sucking technique) , but she gave me her number, and I spoke to her a few times, until the night I called and her American boyfriend asked who was on the phone, then took it from her and told me she wasn't interested in talking to me anymore.

Saying all AMPs are trafficking is like saying that all moonshine is poison that will make you blind. The bad actors are used to go after everyone, and the real issue is control, not safety.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2013/101113humantraffickinggrant.htm[/URL]

[quote=jicks;1902518][url]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2013/101113humantraffickinggrant.htm[/url][/quote]the lazy porkers are going to spend most of that money busting independent girls, because they're too cowardly to go after the foreign gangs doing most of the trafficking, especially of **** girls.

most trafficking is mexicans, salvadorians, and chinese, but the cops are going to roll up a lot of white and black american girls, then crow about how they're 'saving' victims of trafficking.

[quote=bunkerbuster;1903341]the lazy porkers are going to spend most of that money busting independent girls, because they're too cowardly to go after the foreign gangs doing most of the trafficking, especially of **** girls.

most trafficking is mexicans, salvadorians, and chinese, but the cops are going to roll up a lot of white and black american girls, then crow about how they're 'saving' victims of trafficking.[/quote]i guess i'm interested to see these "innovative" approaches. again, i understand the need to get the **** and forced women out the game but let the ones eligible to play. play. something else (another crime) will rise because they're using that money to do this.

[QUOTE=Jicks;1902518][URL]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2013/101113humantraffickinggrant.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]All the more reason to be discreet with your postings, especially with MP reviews. LE knows most of the spots but it's the Joe Blow "we are against human trafficking" citizen advocacy groups and investigative reporters that cruise through public monger boards.

That is the norm these days. Law Enforcement is all about stats, not about really stopping crime or helping anyone. They make the easy busts that end up getting the ho's that are just trying to make a living, and completely bypass the actual gangs and organized criminals that are trafficking humans. Go after soft targets, get nice looking arrest stats, don't actually make a difference. Law enforcement at its best.

Last week 15 guys got picked up and 2 providers from Oakland (March 14-15) - but no mention in any of the news outlets?

[URL]https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/prostitution-crackdowns-in-the-dmv[/URL]

[URL]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustaNon75;2039147]Last week 15 guys got picked up and 2 providers from Oakland (March 14-15) - but no mention in any of the news outlets?

[URL]https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/prostitution-crackdowns-in-the-dmv[/URL]

[URL]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt[/URL][/QUOTE]We get a lot of visits from West Coast girls, so apparently two of them let their guard down and got busted. For the men, the cops put up an ad, get a hotel room and bust the guys when they make the mistake of discussing $ for any kind of sex act. They'll either use an undercover female cop or I've read reports that they sometimes use providers they've previously arrested because they get some kind of deal for assisting LEO.

Sometimes LEO makes a big publicity push for these stings and sometimes they don't. Also, if there's a lot of other news going on the story may not be picked up by the press for that reason.

The bottom line is that everyone needs to stay smart, do their homework and look out for themselves. Although there are no 100% guarantees, staying with well-reviewed providers instead of chasing every new ad that pops up is one way to play smart. Another important point is to never, never, never discuss $. You should know the donation ahead of time and just drop it somewhere without saying a word. If the provider doesn't put her requested donation on her site or in her ad, you may need to ask her about it when you call to set up the appt. But you should never say anything remotely related to sex during that call because you have no idea if it's being recorded. Same thing goes for text messages and emails.

FYI, VA is a "one party consent" state, which means that LEO doesn't need your permission to record your call. DC is the same but MD is a "two party consent" state. But that applies only to calls made entirely within MD and calls made between states may not be protected. Also anything involving the Feds comes under "one party consent" rules.

Be smart and stay safe!

[QUOTE=JustaNon75;2039147]Last week 15 guys got picked up and 2 providers from Oakland (March 14-15) - but no mention in any of the news outlets?

[URL]https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/prostitution-crackdowns-in-the-dmv[/URL]

[URL]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt[/URL][/QUOTE]Probably a lawsuit from a hobbyist or indication that stings will continue.

[QUOTE=JustaNon75;2039147]Last week 15 guys got picked up and 2 providers from Oakland (March 14-15) - but no mention in any of the news outlets?

[URL]https://sites.google.com/site/beefeater500/prostitution-crackdowns-in-the-dmv[/URL]

[URL]http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt[/URL][/QUOTE]Holy crap! One of the guys on the list is my neighbor!