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[QUOTE=Werm2011;2001718]I think that LEO posted ads in the CLCE section for these busts? It's tougher to research if that's the case, obviously. I know if any of them hint of drugs, I'm not responding.

BTW, how long has a capital T been a code for Meth? I don't think any of those arrested were even busted for meth in the past few months there.[/QUOTE]This correspnds to the truth, CL CE Is full of ads from the "powers that be" I mean shit every ad has " party favors" in the ad. Stay away from CL.

I have been thinking about this and would like some input from other clients and providers. My thought is if the provider and client would meet in public like at a starbucks or a bar, exchange the donation there since your paying the provider for time spent. You only payed to hang out with this person and whatever happens after that is between two consenting adults. So you meet for a coffee or drink pay the donation, then you kiss the provider or client's ear while whispering "would you like to go somewhere more private and have some fun?" You both then agree to a nearby hotel, drive to it separately, both go to the counter to reserve a room and go have fun! If it were a sting, would an LE really agree to waste time to meet then go do a bust? And if they do, what illegal action really took place? You met and decided to go have sex!! And for a client I feel this would be the safest way to meet as LE usually have everything in place at a hotel, to meet in public then rent a room at a random hotel would be far to hard for them to move backup with you just to make a bust. If the provider does not want to go to all the hassle would tell me that its probably a sting. Any thoughts? Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2001791]I have been thinking about this and would like some input from other clients and providers. My thought is if the provider and client would meet in public like at a starbucks or a bar, exchange the donation there since your paying the provider for time spent. You only payed to hang out with this person and whatever happens after that is between two consenting adults. So you meet for a coffee or drink pay the donation, then you kiss the provider or client's ear while whispering "would you like to go somewhere more private and have some fun?" You both then agree to a nearby hotel, drive to it separately, both go to the counter to reserve a room and go have fun! If it were a sting, would an LE really agree to waste time to meet then go do a bust? And if they do, what illegal action really took place? You met and decided to go have sex!! And for a client I feel this would be the safest way to meet as LE usually have everything in place at a hotel, to meet in public then rent a room at a random hotel would be far to hard for them to move backup with you just to make a bust. If the provider does not want to go to all the hassle would tell me that its probably a sting. Any thoughts? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Hey Deb,

It is far simpler than that, just tell every new guy who stops by to fuck you that it is completely free, though you are selling your sexy panties for $100. If he does not want to buy it, then you simply change your mind. Now you are perfectly legal.

Make sure the conversation is recorded. But do not forget to turn it off while sucking his cock!

BH.

[QUOTE=Werm2011;2001718]I think that LEO posted ads in the CLCE section for these busts? It's tougher to research if that's the case, obviously. I know if any of them hint of drugs, I'm not responding.

BTW, how long has a capital T been a code for Meth? I don't think any of those arrested were even busted for meth in the past few months there.[/QUOTE]I am guessing that it was this ad on BP (or others like it):

Bit. Ly /1 kX9 zJJ.

Note the Braintree location and how it mentions that 'party favors are available.' That's a red flag. In fact, these ads were noted in the BP reviews thread on this forum.

This one is the most suspect in my opinion. They've been known to post ads without phone numbers before. [URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-to-party-need-favors-22/25627743[/URL] I can't view your link from my device right now but I think I saw the ad you were referencing.

[QUOTE=TheBoobHound;2002035]I am guessing that it was this ad on BP (or others like it):

Bit. Ly /1 kX9 zJJ.

Note the Braintree location and how it mentions that 'party favors are available.' That's a red flag. In fact, these ads were noted in the BP reviews thread on this forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigHead;2001893]Hey Deb,

It is far simpler than that, just tell every new guy who stops by to fuck you that it is completely free, though you are selling your sexy panties for $100. If he does not want to buy it, then you simply change your mind. Now you are perfectly legal.

Make sure the conversation is recorded. But do not forget to turn it off while sucking his cock!

BH.[/QUOTE]Edible panties! You are afterall dining out!

The cost of condoms may vary from 100 for Bare skinned 150 for Ultra thin 200 for ribbed. Tax not included.

The role of LE in the fight against crime is to reduce and prevent first. An arrest based on a bogus ad or some other setup, that has a high sting rate but low probability of conviction, is still a win for LE.

A couple years ago in Maine a bunch of guys were arrested in a sting. Almost none were convicted!

All of them were in the NEWS PAPER with pretty head shots from the arrest. When the cases were dismissed w / o a finding, the innocent were not vindicated. The publicity of the arrest destroyed careers, relationships etc and was a huge deterrent for would be "johns.".

And a big LE WIN.

Deb, your scheme won't work for most. The expense of a new room for every client would lower the profit too much and the extra time meeting etc would probably lead to a lot of guys backing out on girls that are only average in looks or personality. I would bet 50% would start thinking with the big head again before making it to the room.

[QUOTE=SpeedingTicke;2002229]Deb, your scheme won't work for most. The expense of a new room for every client would lower the profit too much and the extra time meeting etc would probably lead to a lot of guys backing out on girls that are only average in looks or personality. I would bet 50% would start thinking with the big head again before making it to the room.[/QUOTE]Not to mention if women started doing this, what is stoping them from taking your cash and just leaving. Now you don't know where they live and unless you beat their ass in the middle of downtown Boston or where ever you met them you lost your cash. Or your taking a trip to jail for beating them.

Not going to work.

[QUOTE=SpeedingTicke;2002229]The role of LE in the fight against crime is to reduce and prevent first. An arrest based on a bogus ad or some other setup, that has a high sting rate but low probability of conviction, is still a win for LE.

A couple years ago in Maine a bunch of guys were arrested in a sting. Almost none were convicted!

All of them were in the NEWS PAPER with pretty head shots from the arrest. When the cases were dismissed w / o a finding, the innocent were not vindicated. The publicity of the arrest destroyed careers, relationships etc and was a huge deterrent for would be "johns.".

And a big LE WIN.

Deb, your scheme won't work for most. The expense of a new room for every client would lower the profit too much and the extra time meeting etc would probably lead to a lot of guys backing out on girls that are only average in looks or personality. I would bet 50% would start thinking with the big head again before making it to the room.[/QUOTE]The humiliation factor is what LE is counting on to drive others away to combat the situation.

No matter what scheme you come up with if LEO wants you they got you. The best thing is to try and remain low key and off their radar.

99% of the busts and stings I have read all have the following common factors- Prostitution or solicitation of sex for a fee, drugs and sexually explicit ads on either BP or CL / CE.

While the provider gets hit with a lesser fine the client gets whacked with a fine X's 5. The sole intend (which has been reported) to expose the Johns / clients to drive down the business and embarasss them.

Read some of the ads on CL / CE and when you read about drugs or specific sexual acts that will be performed you can't help but say WTF! They real or a sting?

Must be an election year.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2001791]I have been thinking about this and would like some input from other clients and providers. My thought is if the provider and client would meet in public like at a starbucks or a bar, exchange the donation there since your paying the provider for time spent. You only payed to hang out with this person and whatever happens after that is between two consenting adults. So you meet for a coffee or drink pay the donation, then you kiss the provider or client's ear while whispering "would you like to go somewhere more private and have some fun?" You both then agree to a nearby hotel, drive to it separately, both go to the counter to reserve a room and go have fun! If it were a sting, would an LE really agree to waste time to meet then go do a bust? And if they do, what illegal action really took place? You met and decided to go have sex!! And for a client I feel this would be the safest way to meet as LE usually have everything in place at a hotel, to meet in public then rent a room at a random hotel would be far to hard for them to move backup with you just to make a bust. If the provider does not want to go to all the hassle would tell me that its probably a sting. Any thoughts? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Deb, the problem with this scenario, besides the expense of a room for each client as noted by Speeding, is the trust factor. Not many guys are going to trust a girl who is new to them to not just take their money and say "Thanks for lunch Honey, have a nice day" That kind of arrangement would be an open door to scammers and rip off artists.

This may work for some folks, in so far as to meet and establish that neither person is LE, without money changing hands, then retire to an agreed upon location for the date. Some girls actually encourage this type of meeting, but it's time consuming, so it's rare.

The simplest way is research research research. Do your homework and seek reviews and referrals.

ANYONE not known to you could be LE, on either side of the equation.

[QUOTE=BstnGuy1457;2001535]This really terrifies me as I'm trying to figure out my first try I keep freaking out when I think I narrow it down.[/QUOTE]BstnGuy, Freaking out will save your ass. It's a treacherous path, but carefully navigated, the rewards are there.

Join one of the verification services. It's a small price to pay for peace of mind, and will open many doors.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2001791]I have been thinking about this and would like some input from other clients and providers. My thought is if the provider and client would meet in public like at a starbucks or a bar, exchange the donation there since your paying the provider for time spent. You only payed to hang out with this person and whatever happens after that is between two consenting adults. So you meet for a coffee or drink pay the donation, then you kiss the provider or client's ear while whispering "would you like to go somewhere more private and have some fun?" You both then agree to a nearby hotel, drive to it separately, both go to the counter to reserve a room and go have fun! If it were a sting, would an LE really agree to waste time to meet then go do a bust? And if they do, what illegal action really took place? You met and decided to go have sex!! And for a client I feel this would be the safest way to meet as LE usually have everything in place at a hotel, to meet in public then rent a room at a random hotel would be far to hard for them to move backup with you just to make a bust. If the provider does not want to go to all the hassle would tell me that its probably a sting. Any thoughts? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Uncle LEO would just make the arrest as soon as you take the money. All they care about are arrests, they'll let the court decide if the charge will stick. That way they know who you are for any further investigations. Plus they'll search you, go through your phone, and potentially use that against you. If you have any condoms on you, that's evidence too. Sure you can probably beat the charge if you take it to trial, but most will take a plea bargain, and Uncle LEO knows this. Even if you do take it to trial, and win, they now know your real name and can start a more thorough investigation.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=BigHead;2001893]Hey Deb,

It is far simpler than that, just tell every new guy who stops by to fuck you that it is completely free, though you are selling your sexy panties for $100. If he does not want to buy it, then you simply change your mind. Now you are perfectly legal.

Make sure the conversation is recorded. But do not forget to turn it off while sucking his cock!

BH.[/QUOTE]You'll beat the sex for a fee charge (a misdemeanor), and confess to a felony charge in the process... MGL ch. 272, § 99. It's a felony in Mass to secretly record a conversation.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=HoHunter328;2002438]Uncle LEO would just make the arrest as soon as you take the money. All they care about are arrests, they'll let the court decide if the charge will stick. That way they know who you are for any further investigations. Plus they'll search you, go through your phone, and potentially use that against you. If you have any condoms on you, that's evidence too. Sure you can probably beat the charge if you take it to trial, but most will take a plea bargain, and Uncle LEO knows this. Even if you do take it to trial, and win, they now know your real name and can start a more thorough investigation.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]It makes no difference whether you win or loose. LEO WINS! They win even if the case is tossed out!

If they can get a conviction to stick, that's a bonus!! They have dragged your ass into court, publicly harassed and embarassed you by placing your name, address and picture in the paper.

Now that you won and found innocent where is the press to say that you were innocent? There won't be any!

Who won? LEO.

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2002473]It makes no difference whether you win or loose. LEO WINS! They win even if the case is tossed out!

If they can get a conviction to stick, that's a bonus!! They have dragged your ass into court, publicly harassed and embarassed you by placing your name, address and picture in the paper.

Now that you won and found innocent where is the press to say that you were innocent? There won't be any!

Who won? LEO.[/QUOTE]It looks like LEO is making arrests as a result of citizen complaints, or competition. HH is right there really are no winners for mongers. You will have a criminal record and even if you plea to a continue without a finding it will still be on your record I believe. Just be careful.