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I had a girl who advertises as ""Double D's" ([url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/271978186.html)[/url], swapped a bunch of emails, and agreed to have her come over. She sweared she was on the way.
She was 1.5 hours late, even though she kept calling that she was almost there.
I should have cut my losses. She finally got there.
MUCH older and fatter than her pics. Couldn't shut her the fuck up. When I made my move she got pissy. Finnaly got her back to the bedroom where she kept talking, and finally started a jackhammer HJ/BJ, a really bad one. I didn't even ask about FS. I got pissed and told her I was just going to jerk off on her tits, and then shot a glob onto her face for spite. She wasn't too happy, but I said "oops, my bad".
I got up, told her to go clean up, threw her clothes into the bathroom, and got her out. She thought I liked her. Delusional.
Bad bad bad.
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What I meant
[QUOTE=Chase Star]As opposed to what? Depositing money in a SW's crack fund? Since you seem to suggest paying for sex with a condom is like throwing your money away, using your logic, wouldn't not paying anything at all be the best bet of all? You see, your logic just doesn't hold up.
First of all, I hope you're not suggesting that unlike with escorts you don't have to wear a condom with street walkers. Since many of the SW are also substance abusers, not to mention higher volume and perhaps more likely to go bareback with some of their clients in pursuit of money for their next fix, there is definitely a much higher risk of HIV as well as other STD's when going bare with a SW.
Secondly, what does whether you wear a condom or not have anything to do which is a better bet, since you have to wear a condom just as much either way. The only real difference between escorts and SW's that you're really alluding to is cost and for many guys cheaper isn't always better.
Thirdly and related to the point above, you get what you pay for. While there isn't a perfect correlation between cost and looks, there is some. And I wouldn't touch most SW's with a heavily wrapped 10 foot pole. At least some of us can manage to pick-up women on our ownwithout shelling out cash that look at least as good as the average SW on the street. For those mongers, paying outright for sex is about a) getting quality or age level that they probably wouldn't be able to attract otherwise b) paying a premium so the women simply comes to their door and they don't have to spend hours trolling the streets (often coming up emptyhanded) and risking attracting the attention of law enforcement, possible arrest and in some localities confiscation of their vehicle or c) paying them to leave. In the case of some SW's, I'd actually pay them not to have sex at all and to just get the fuck away from me. A women can certainly be skanky enough looking (not to mention foul enough smelling) that at some point you're much better off just using your hand. Besides, if you're going to just use cost and condom use as your guide, your hand is completely free and doesn't even require you use a condom at all.
Finally, who's to say that having to have sex with a wrapper is all that bad. Sure it feels better without a condom but it still must feel pretty good with one too or so many guys wouldn't be paying all that money for professional providers who require covers no matter where they fall on the sex worker hierarchy.[/QUOTE]Well, the reason people dont want to have sex with SW is HIV. For some strange reason, people associate looks with disease. Has one ever looked at pictures of people with HIV on TV. They all look nice and clean cut. Just because somebody is charging more or looks nice does not mean she does not have HIV. Even if escorts are less likely to have HIV than a SW, would one risk their life on probability and not use condom. So a REASONABLE premium for escorts is agreeable if they have REALLY good looks and it is without condom. Since without condoms is out of question, I think escorts are a waste of money.
I agree, SOME escorts are REALLY beautiful ( though most dont look any better than SWs ). But when people order escorts over the phone, thinking all escorts are beautiful, I find that silly. Remember, the mall is a place where lot of junk stuff is sold at highly inflated prices - you can find the same stuff much cheaper at a flea market or discount store - believe me.
As for LE, all escorts keep black book of their cutomers' phone number, license plate and description. So if they are caught, customers are caught too.
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[QUOTE=Prof Self Help]Well, the reason people dont want to have sex with SW is HIV. For some strange reason, people associate looks with disease. Has one ever looked at pictures of people with HIV on TV. They all look nice and clean cut. Just because somebody is charging more or looks nice does not mean she does not have HIV. Even if escorts are less likely to have HIV than a SW, would one risk their life on probability and not use condom. So a REASONABLE premium for escorts is agreeable if they have REALLY good looks and it is without condom. Since without condoms is out of question, I think escorts are a waste of money.
I agree, SOME escorts are REALLY beautiful ( though most dont look any better than SWs ). But when people order escorts over the phone, thinking all escorts are beautiful, I find that silly. Remember, the mall is a place where lot of junk stuff is sold at highly inflated prices - you can find the same stuff much cheaper at a flea market or discount store - believe me.
As for LE, all escorts keep black book of their cutomers' phone number, license plate and description. So if they are caught, customers are caught too.[/QUOTE]I'll respond to your latest twisted logic and then I'll just let it go since it seems you just don't get it.
I never said "because somebody is charging more or looks nice doesn't mean she doesn't have HIV". A good portion of the SW's you see on the street are crack ****** which greatly increases the likelihood that they may be infected with HIV, Hep C, or some other STD regardless of what condition their looks may have deteriorated to or how much they charge. They also generally operate on a higher volume, which means all other things being equal they have more oportunities to contract and spread diseases. And statistics bear this out. So the difference in degree of risk is much greater than you make it out.
Secondly, "even if escorts are less likely to have HIV than a SW" (Which is more than just an "if" in my estimation), "would one risk their life on probability and not use condom." Answer, NO, and where did anyone suggest otherwise? You're the only one talking about it being worth some sort of premium to have unprotected sex with an escort even under some special circumstances. What I said was that condom use was advisable for BOTH types of providers EVEN for an escort DESPITE her lower risk of carrying a disease AND SO the issue of having to wear a condom was really beside the point when comparing the merits of which type of provider to go for. Forget not wearing condom already, its just something you'd better get used to if you're going to play the game of P4P (at least for FS).
Thirdly, you're also wrong about why people don't want to have sex with SW's. HIV is ONE reason but it is just one of MANY. You even tried to address some of the others. YOU don't think most escorts are any better looking than the average SW, but I think there are many that would strongly disagree with you even among those who prefer to bargain shop among SW's. There is a reason people refer to the term "Streetwalker Scale" when rating SW looks and that is because the average for a streetwalker is even less than the average for the general population. I agree some escorts are really beautiful but certainly not all. Some are only average and a few are really skanky (like a typical SW). However, IMHO the SW's that would rate above a 5 on the regular scale are few and far between (and thus fairly hard to find) and the few escorts that would rate below a 5 are easily avoided.
Your analogy to buying things at a flea market, IMHO, is not an exact one. Sure if you're talking about buying dollar-type items, you're going to get a better deal at a place that carries lower overhead. But if you're spending money on a bigger ticket item or one where you really have to depend on its reliability than you're going to want to buy it at a place that you know will be there next week or one that comes with some sort of warranty. The warranty on escorts are not perfect either, but thats why you have to do your homework. If you select the right one you've chosen one that relies on her reputation and good reviews. I really don't think such concerns are particularly high with the average streetwalker. And in terms of overhead, what does an independent escort have? Maybe a little advertising and a cellphone and the gas to get whereever you want to meet her. OTOH, the latter is going to be no more than the gas you'd probably burn yourself driving around looking for an acceptable SW. And SW's are more likely than escorts to have other costs like pimps and/or drug suppliers. The main reason SW's charge so much less is because they're so much less desirable and/or they're so much more desperate because of their drug habits, which isn't exactly a plus for us either.
Finally, your observations comparing legal risk between the two types of providers is plain wrong. The typical escort may LOOK at your driver's license to try and help determine if you are who you say you are and not some cop, but it would be highly unusual for any to keep that detailed records beyond the time of your meeting. What purpose would it serve except that of evidence if she were arrested? The most she is likely to have is your number in the call history of her phone or MAYBE transferred over to her blackbook if you become a regular customer.
If she is caught, unless you're caught with her, she's the one going to jail. They don't go after possible johns from the past based only on a written phone number as their evidence. And even any of that is not that likely to happen. They rarely bust escorts or conduct sting operations for guys that call them, compared to how often they do exactly that in the street market. Even when the SW and the John are on the up and up the risk of arrest is greater because the business is conducted out in the open on the street, where the COPS are writing down the numbers of the guys that cruise back and forth and arresting both parties when they see suspicious activities in a parked car. There is simply no possible way you could compare the relative risk of going with an escort to that of engaging in the street sex market.
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Hidden Treasures
I was looking at the Add Board on ********* and an add for HIDDEN TREASURES came up.
7932 Ulmerton Road, Largo, FL 33771
Can someone give me the 411 on this place.
Be Safe,
Fernand0
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Hidden Treasures
Still looking for some friends. Mixed reviews on the suite 190 thing.
How about some 411 on Hidden Treasures 7932 Ulmerton Road, Largo, FL 33771
I'm headed to Clearwater this week and I'm hoping for the best.
Be safe.
Fernando
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Hidden Treasures
[QUOTE=Fernand0]Still looking for some friends. Mixed reviews on the suite 190 thing.
How about some 411 on Hidden Treasures 7932 Ulmerton Road, Largo, FL 33771
I'm headed to Clearwater this week and I'm hoping for the best.
Be safe.
Fernando[/QUOTE]Visited Hidden Treasures and saw Leena. She is very willing and accomidating... and her e-mail is xxxgreekqueen@***** if that tells you anything. Enjoy!
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Amanda Luv
I had seen Amanda about a year ago when she worked at the 5th Avenue Spa. She left a good impression and I noticed she has been posting pretty regularly on CL over the past few days. I decided on a repeat performance this past Friday. Decent FS for $$. 5. This girl has fallen on hard times. Car accident, daughter committed suicide, etc. In any event, she has a decent little body but she appear to be around 30. The true decline is about to begin. I would negotiate a better price.
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Freaks on CL
Look up the latest ads for Uptown Girl. Pro-mongers will recognize TT is on the loose. Hanging with Susie S. Still in the north Nebraska Avenue hoods and trailer parks, but a freak is a freak no matter where they live/work. Her contact info is on CL.
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Megan at X-posed
I have noticed that Megan over at exposed has been posting to cl for A BIT NOW. She has been a bit on the high side there. I am in hopes that she us a bit more willing outside of the shop. Ill let ya know.
She post under Ginger on CL.
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/291857869.html[/url]
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CL Jamie Lynn
Does anyone have any information about this lady. Her age changes everytime see posts a new add, it goes from 20,22,23. So any information is appreciated. And thanks for the board and all the information it provided.
Link for Jamie Lynn off of CL:
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/284527873.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Tarpon1416]Does anyone have any information about this lady. Her age changes everytime see posts a new add, it goes from 20,22,23. So any information is appreciated. And thanks for the board and all the information it provided.
Link for Jamie Lynn off of CL:
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/284527873.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I saw a review or her and her short blonde busty friend that was good, but I've got no real experience. I think it was in the forums here, but not sure.
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[QUOTE=UranIdiot]I saw a review or her and her short blonde busty friend that was good, but I've got no real experience. I think it was in the forums here, but not sure.[/QUOTE]
I called the number once & an old lady called back??? She was posting BRANDON as a location at that time.
I see Megan has been flagged!
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Wow! Barbara Love
Just before I was about to call it a night, I decided to check the CL ads for the Hell of it and the top one had just been posted a little after 5 AM. No name, it just said that she was offering her lowest FS rate ever to anyone who was available now. I took the bait and got an e-mail back from Barbara Love.
Cute little tight bodied blonde girl that I've been eyeing forever. She only does outcalls and old man Wazowski prefers not to invite women he's never met to his house. But, shit, she was offering an hour for $125 (would have been $100 if I were on her side of the bay). She's hot and I've never seen a bad word written about her. So I told her to come on over.
Wow. If you're an ass man, like me, she's got this little bubble butt of steal that is unbelievable. I've got a real-life acquaintence who was a college gymnast. Little bitty girl with a rock hard bubble butt. Barbara's was even more solid. I chose to spend about a quarter of my hour just massaging that sweet behind.
I should mention, for the boob men, Barbara is not lacking there either. Great set of nice, firm boobs with pretty dark pink medium sized nips. I'm not a boob man but I did give them a nice feel so that I could let my buddies on USG know what they were like.
The DATY report: If you've ever had the pleasure of going down on (our loss, Illinois' gain) Alyeesia, you know it doesn't get any better. I'd say Barbara was in league with that for total lack of odor and clean taste.
Not to get aHEAD of myself, I must say that Barbara delivered quite the oral magic show. Not a single tooth brushed so much as a sqaure millimeter of flesh. All lips and tongue and it could be described as nothing less than "like a pro."
Barbara has done some porn and watching her bob away, one could see and feel that this is a woman trained in the art of oral pleasure.
Then she offered me the choice of a ride to the finish line or giving her a mouthful. ARRRGH! What a choice to lay upon a man. I told her to choose what she liked best and she said she liked it all but that she liked the girth of my boy and kind of wanted to see how it felt somewhere lower than her mouth.
She had me believing every word of it, too. So, off for a ride Barbara went and let me tell you, I think I got into something tighter than any alterboy chasing priest has ever scored. Another WOW! for Ms. Love.
I'll definitely pony up her usual $250 rate to see her again. She's actually worth it. I got a steal tonight at $125. Next time I plan to come ahead of time - I mean - come prepared and see if I can last a bit longer in that tight little box and then switch back to the give her a mouthful option. BBBJ, CIM beats covered FS any day, as far as I'm concerned.
I'd also like to see if I can pry those rock hard buns apart far enough to toss the salad. Barbara seems pretty open to anything.
Most definitely an escort worth seeing. Here's a link to her website, if you've not seen her pics before: [url]http://www.geocities.com/sexybarbielove4u/home1.html[/url]
I've hit quite a few duds, lately, and stumbling upon Barbara Love was a nice treat.
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I've seen Barbie. All that has been said is true. I opted for the CIM before the clock ran out-she's punctual about the clock. Great time, would see again. Mine was a $$.5 thing.
She sometimes just doesn't answer the phone or emails. I figure she does when she needs $$$.