Sexual Addiction Reports

[QUOTE=Civ2000]Myself, I don't feel any guilt, nor has anyone tried to make me feel guilty for my addiction. I don't see guilt pervading this thread, except perhaps for a guy or two who is remorseful for cheating on his faithful spouse, in which case guilt is an appropriate emotion, assuming of course that the guy is not a sociopath.

Me, I simply see that the addiction has lowered my quality of life and thus I try to reduce or quit the hobby when I can. When successful, my finances immediately improve, I spend more time engaging in healthy life-affirming activities, get closer to friends and family, my work productivity increases, and am generally happier. As I've stated before, guilt is not part of the equation for me.[/QUOTE]I don't feel guilt either. The only thing I worry about is the temptation to overspend. Lately I've hit the AMPs as much as 3 or even 4 times a week which I can't afford to do on an ongoing basis. At up to $300 a visit this could run over $1000 a week, $52,000 a year. Over a 20 year mongering career one could literally spend over a million dollars. Invest that wisely and one could be a multimillionaire instead of an experienced monger. This "hobby" could ruin one financially just as a gambling habit could.

Just as I will gamble happily at moderate levels, I need to learn to limit my mongering to whatI can afford. Paying cash eliminates the temptation to use credit cards to the hilt on K-girls. On occasion I have used my credit card for other things to free up AMP money. I've stopped that lately. I go for the $140 or $160 FS rather than the $300 FS to save money. I even go HJ only sometimes which is a money saver.

I've gotten a lot of overtime money lately. I might spend all my OT money on AMP girls as it is extra money I don't need. But is it wise to do that? What do others do? Invest 50% or 5% of this OT windfall?

There are other ways to save that I am reluctant to utilize unless the point comes where I have to, such as retirement or when overtime dries up. I could save by patronizing a $20 SW rather than a CC Rider. I could limit my mongering to once a week or once a month or even to a vacation of once a year. What do others suggest?

The solution I really like is to win the lottery for a hundred million dollars which means I could indulge to an almost unlimited degree. (Really high rollers can spend an amount of money you or I could not believe.) Alternatively I could hustle extra money by a part time job or by cutting the fat in my non monger budget. How do others cope?

Double Nickle

[QUOTE=Third Eye]...when it comes to sex (mongering, seducing, viewing porn or other voyeuristic activities) I'm definitely an addict. It's all about being in control. I know when I'm in that mode (porn mode, monger mode, voyeur mode, etc.) it's a deep deep groove that I rarely can drive out of. Hell, I'm no longer in the driver's seat, something else is.

However, there's been an interesting development--since I started taking antidepressants a few months ago, my compulsive behavior has gone way down. Oh, it's still there, but I almost have to provoke it. For example, I might drop into a strip club once every fortnight, when I feel like it--as opposed to before when I was going EVEN WHEN I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT.

I take Zoloft (generic name Sertraline). Some men have reported losing sex drive taking these medications, and while I'd say my drive is slightly reduced, it's definitely still intact. No E.Rection problems, but it can be difficult to climax unless I'm highly aroused.

Back to the point, suppressing my compulsions was an unexpected but happy side effect. I wonder, has anyone else experienced a benefit like this from antidepressants?

3rdI[/QUOTE]I'm not a mental health professional, but I am aware of the reduction in obsessive behaviors that can occur with the use of anti-depressants. The Prozac class of drugs (Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Lexapro and others) are serotonin reuptake inhibitors, serotonin being one of those neurotransmitters that that can make you feel good and change behavior if present in the right amount. Wellbutrin (not in the Prozac class) is another anti-depressant that works on two different neurotransmitters (dopamine and norepinephrine) that also can make you feel good if present in the right amount. However I'm not sure if Wellbutrin is effective for OCD.

I don't know if sexual addiction is a type of OCD, but I suspect it is, or is related, and recommend a google search on "Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder" to read up on OCD and related disorders. Then for others who want to see if Third Eye's experience can be repeated, it might be worth a trip to your doctor, a psychiatrist, or the public health clinic to get a prescription. A lot of these drugs are now available as generics so they can cost $4 or less a month at pharmacies like Walmart and those that are matching its prices.

Celexa and Lexapro are said to have the fewest side effects of the Prozac class of drugs and are among the newest drugs of this type. Wellbutrin is also said to have few side effects. Both Wellbutrin and Celexa are now available as inexpensive generics.

If there is a qualified mental health professional reading this report, please add to this report and correct anything I've said that is wrong.

The classic pill for OCD is Luvox, though Wellbutrin also hits many of the same receptors without the same side effects. This is not to say that Wellbutrin is without it's own side effects, and it is most often prescribed in tandem with other anti depressants - such as Zoloft or Paxil - but again, side effects are plenty. The newest addition to the bunch is Cymbalta - which hits epis and neurepis - and more of each than ever before, and the neat part of it is that there is no weight gain AT ALL as part and parcel of the standard list of complaints. The trick with combining anti depresants with Wellbutrin is that Wellbutrin does have a stimulus effect in most cases, but dosage is tricky as more than 300mg puts the patient at a significantly higher risk for seizures, so it is not uncommon to see low doses of Viagra or other pills in the class prescribed as well.

OCD can manifest sexually for certain, though more often it is my experience that sexual compulsion is far more common in patients presenting with Major Depression and ADD/ADHD - the treatment of which can produce OCD behaviours and tendencies not present before medication.

I cannot stress enough that pills in and of themselves do not constitute a complete therapeutic regimen, and of course, before taking any pill or changing a therapy regimen it is imperative to consult with your Internist and a Psychiatrist to ensure the appropriate choices are made.


Benchseats Rock

I've tried various SSRI antidepressants and they all work to curb compulsions, but they also tend to make it difficult to cum.

[QUOTE=Benchseats Rock]The classic pill for OCD is Luvox, though Wellbutrin also hits many of the same receptors without the same side effects. This is not to say that Wellbutrin is without it's own side effects, and it is most often prescribed in tandem with other anti depressants - such as Zoloft or Paxil - but again, side effects are plenty. The newest addition to the bunch is Cymbalta - which hits epis and neurepis - and more of each than ever before, and the neat part of it is that there is no weight gain AT ALL as part and parcel of the standard list of complaints. The trick with combining anti depresants with Wellbutrin is that Wellbutrin does have a stimulus effect in most cases, but dosage is tricky as more than 300mg puts the patient at a significantly higher risk for seizures, so it is not uncommon to see low doses of Viagra or other pills in the class prescribed as well.

OCD can manifest sexually for certain, though more often it is my experience that sexual compulsion is far more common in patients presenting with Major Depression and ADD/ADHD - the treatment of which can produce OCD behaviours and tendencies not present before medication.

I cannot stress enough that pills in and of themselves do not constitute a complete therapeutic regimen, and of course, before taking any pill or changing a therapy regimen it is imperative to consult with your Internist and a Psychiatrist to ensure the appropriate choices are made.

Benchseats Rock[/QUOTE]

Lately all I been banging is kgirls. They seem to be the only turn on for me. Heck even the unattractive ones get me hard. I'm late 40's and have had my share of white,black,& latina pussy. My question is, "Is there any truth to the term Asian Fever or Yellow Fever?"

Asian: I've been just the opposite, recently. I have un-Yellow Fever. :)

And another funny thing happened to me, just last night, in fact, that might have bearing on this general discussion. I scheduled myself loose from the various family and friends who are making demands on my time these holidays (told Mister A I was with Miss B, and vice versa!) and planned on mongering. I went after the clubs in the French Quarter, and Visions out on Downman Road (New Orleans), but I just couldn't get the ol' horn up. I haven't banged a chick in about three weeks but man I just ain't interested.

What'sup with that? I am starting to suspect, that regular socializing of the "normal" kind, in some way invades my mind and turns me into an upstanding and John-Birch type of citizen. Help! Now I'm wondering whether all my past mongering obsessions were just loneliness acting itself out in spurts and starts. What happens when I have to go back to the daily grind? I gotta fuck at AMPs more?

This isn't making sense. There I was, free pass in hand, standing outside the Hustler on Bourbon Street, peering through the doorway at plenty of scantily clad porn-starlet-types, and I didn't want to go inside. It just seemed ... seedy ... and, more important, it seemed DULL. I was BORED by sex.

Eeek. That CAN'T be a good development.

Does anyone know if there's a Sex Addiction centers in Orlando, Florida?

Please PM me

I used to be into porn, being a truck driver 24 hrs a day with my wife for ten years. We didn't get along very well, me focusing on bills and trying to get out of trucking but maintaining the same income, my wife couldn't comprhend maintaining a budget, I had very little sex life, and no friends. Then began going to stripclubs, thinking my marriage was over anyway; eventually I confided in my wife that I was going to stripclubs, and she could tell that I was infatuated with one dancer in particular. We argued fiercly over it. But I being adament that I can not make friends like most people (actually shunned by most people no matter how hard I try to fit in) and that this is all I have for finding normal conversation with people, she eventually accepted it; and I found that I really only needed friends; I am not even interested in most woman in the clubs even when fully nude; only a few of them and even then, more as friends than sexually. So the point I am trying to make is that there may be soemthing you are missing emotionally; I didn't even realize the things and issues I was hurting from in my life that swell up in my mind when I walk into a certain club near home, kind of like when I walked into a distant relatives home a few years ago for the first time in 20 years and was flooded with memories. For me a stripclub that was ran by people that remind me of where I was raised really healed me in ways I didn't know I was hurting the pain was buried so deep. So you may have deep rejection issues. Then I wound up obsessed with one dancer for about a year. Then quit going to that club for one month. Met a girl that looked similiar and it really helped me to "get over her".

A nice story, Mr. "Am I a criminal 2". (Funny nickname ...) I think a lot of us are lonely, looking for acceptance or for something that we have somehow lost but that we don't even know we lack.

Just like in [URL='http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=407066&postcount=236']2005[/URL] , I kept a diary on my mongering activities this year

Because I missed five straight weeks because of some surgery this summer , my 'year'
was only 47 weeks long

In that time , I spent $$ 6400 on 61 'Dates' with 22 different women — an average of
one date every 5.4 days

Most of my activities are now with ATFs or in Strip Clubs = why risk a Solicitation arrest
when in·door prostitution is totally legal here in Rhode Island ?? My last SW date was in mid·August

I saw seven of the women at least twice , and spent by far the most time and money
on my ATF·ATF girl [b]Jo·Elle[/b] , who I saw 31 times

My New Year's Resolution is to take a little break from the hobby and this web site

Wonder how long I'll be able to hold out ?? Addictions *are* hard to break , I realize

Any·wayz = [b]Happy New Years , Peeps !!![/b]

Why beat yourself up because you like porn, sex, mongering, strip clubs, or AMPs? Why take that guilt trip?

According to some articles I read, the average male thinks about sex every 5 minutes or so. Now that sounds like an addiction. But wait. Is there is a difference between thinking about sex and acting on your thoughts?

Who cares if there is a difference as long as no one is getting hurt. What normal male doesn't like looking at beautiful naked women acting out our fantasies right before our eyes? While most of us would rather have sex than watching it, who cares?

I personally believe that most people have some form of addictive behavior whether it's shopping, sex, alcohol, drugs, hobbies, workaholic, playing computer games or the like. Why beat yourself up over it?

There is a multitude of reasons why some men prefer dating SWs rather than find some nice regular girl for a relationship. My reasons are simple. I am tired of the dating game (head games, financial exploitation, hassles, and loss of independence and freedom).

Financially speaking, it's probably a toss up between mongering and dating regular girls. Either way, you are going to pay for sex. At least with mongering, you generally know what's going to happen, when and for how much.

It all depends on one's priorities and where you are in your stage of life.

Guess the point I am trying to make is don't beat yourself up over this so-called sex addiction thing if you are not hurting anyone and you enjoy this lifestyle.

Wanting to have, liking, and watching sex is a normal behavior.

Like anything in life, try to keep it under control and not do it to excess (going into debt, negatively affecting the rest of your life, etc.).

BBB

Lets face it, if we patronize this board we are sick mother fuckers. LOL I really liked the 06' accounting of Zombies, that was right on. I had thought about my lifetime mongering expenses and quite frankly I wanted to puke.

I coulda bought a house in Vegas and a nice one too. That combined with other vices, maybe 2 houses. hehe

oh well, cant take it with you when you go so enjoy it while we are all breathing is what I say.

PC out

[QUOTE=Bad Bad Boy]Why beat yourself up because you like porn, sex, mongering, strip clubs, or AMPs? Why take that guilt trip?

According to some articles I read, the average male thinks about sex every 5 minutes or so. Now that sounds like an addiction. But wait. Is there is a difference between thinking about sex and acting on your thoughts?

Who cares if there is a difference as long as no one is getting hurt. What normal male doesn't like looking at beautiful naked women acting out our fantasies right before our eyes? While most of us would rather have sex than watching it, who cares?

I personally believe that most people have some form of addictive behavior whether it's shopping, sex, alcohol, drugs, hobbies, workaholic, playing computer games or the like. Why beat yourself up over it?

There is a multitude of reasons why some men prefer dating SWs rather than find some nice regular girl for a relationship. My reasons are simple. I am tired of the dating game (head games, financial exploitation, hassles, and loss of independence and freedom).

Financially speaking, it's probably a toss up between mongering and dating regular girls. Either way, you are going to pay for sex. At least with mongering, you generally know what's going to happen, when and for how much.

It all depends on one's priorities and where you are in your stage of life.

Guess the point I am trying to make is don't beat yourself up over this so-called sex addiction thing if you are not hurting anyone and you enjoy this lifestyle.

Wanting to have, liking, and watching sex is a normal behavior.

Like anything in life, try to keep it under control and not do it to excess (going into debt, negatively affecting the rest of your life, etc.).

BBB[/QUOTE]

BBB, The thing is, you're not describing addiction. When you say to "try and keep it under control" you're missing the point that addiction is a "loss of control."

"Wanting to have, liking, and watching sex is a normal behavior" -- sure it is. But a loose definition of addiction is continuing a behavior despite negative consequences. Liking sex is one thing, continuing to have sex despite arrest, heavy debt, disease, getting robbed, etc is another. Addiction does negatively affect the rest of your life; a normal sexual desire does not.

So yes, liking porn, strip clubs, mongering, etc., is great until you lose the ability to control it and then it is an extremely destructive force that can ruin your life and those who are close to you. The fact is, you are hurting someone - yourself and the people who care about you.

So, it's like I've described before. You go to a group of forty men (most of whom think of sex every few minutes) and ask them if they'd like to bang that hot blonde at the bar. Most will say yes. Then say there is a 50% chance she has an STD. You've now lost half the men, but the rest might bang her anyway with protection. Now you tell them there's a chance they could get arrested and their wife might find out. Ten more men drop out. Now mention they could get robbed by a pimp. Three more drop out. Then say, it could become addictive and you could end up heavily in debt. Five more drop out. Two guys are left, me and Psyberzombie. You've found the two sex addicts in the group.

[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]
In that time , I spent $$ 6400 on 61 'Dates' with 22 different women —on my ATF·ATF girl [b]Jo·Elle[/b] , who I saw 31 times

My New Year's Resolution is to take a little break from the hobby and this web site

Wonder how long I'll be able to hold out ?? Addictions *are* hard to break , I realize[/b][/QUOTE]


Just did the math myself and for 2006, I spent $5240 on a little over 30 mongering sessions.

By the way, good luck on the resolution (although I saw that you've been back already)

[QUOTE=Asain_Ucker]Lately all I been banging is kgirls. They seem to be the only turn on for me. Heck even the unattractive ones get me hard. I'm late 40's and have had my share of white,black,& latina pussy. My question is, "Is there any truth to the term Asian Fever or Yellow Fever?"[/QUOTE]How juvenile can you be? There's about as much truth to that as "once you go black, you never go back."