Robbery Alert! Dangerous SW
I got a call on my cell tonight from a guy I've been to TJ a few times with. He's a fellow mongerer and we used to compare notes though its been a while for me, lotta work + no women= I actually have some money, I don't know him all that well but I do know he's honest ,at least with me and always pays his fair share when we split stuff like food, cab rides, drinks. 2 other mongerers that've hung out with him have never had a problem with him either. Anyway, he calls me up all nervous and crazy. He wanted to warn me and everybody we knew about a wsw he picked up tonight on James Wood between Union and Alvarado.
She hopped into his car, grabbed his hand and put it right to her pussy. He told me that she agreed to 1/2 & 1/2 and when he pulled out his penis for oral, she pretended to dig around in her boots for a rubber. What she pulled out instead was a knife (a small one) which she put right below his penis and above his balls. She ended up leaving a small cut on him. She demanded all the money he had, his wallet, and anything of value in the car. She ended up with $80+ in cash, his cell phone, 1/2 a pack of Marlboro Reds, and a cheap digital camera. She goes by the name STAR. He describes her as young looking, early 20's. A few extra pounds, but small tits. She has short brown hair that is long on top. That is his description which makes no sense to me. Her hair is gelled and hairsprayed in a stylish way. She's white, young, and pretty. Avoid her at all costs. I told him to file a police report but he won't do it. I think she should go to prison for robbery, but he won't listen. I stopped hanging out in that area because I don't work in the area anymore, but maybe that was for the better.
David R Elms. President of the************.com
David R Elms. President of the************.com
TAKEN OFF OF MSNBC SITE
David R. Elms, president of The Erotic Review, said he was aware that police occasionally registered as fake customers on his site.
Elms maintained that it didn’t happen nearly as often as escorts and their customers believed, adding that law enforcement had asked for information about the site’s members only once. The company’s attorneys “worked it out,” he said, providing no further details.
Elms said he had no choice but to keep quiet even when he learned of active stings on his site: “We can’t impede an investigation. It’s a felony.” stated Elm's.
AND FOLLOW BELOW FOR WHY MR. ELMS HAS NO CHOICE TO BE QUIET!!!!
NOW THE GOOD PART ON HOW THEY WORKED IT OUT:
close inside info from a ex moderator tells me that the way it was worked out with lawyers and police is David R Elms is being granted immunnity from any criminal prosecution in return of letting vice on the boards to gather info on john's and providers in the area's of these sting op's!!!!
It has also been brought to my attention That David R Elms presisdent of TER also gives personal info such as IP addy's, CC billings info ETC....... of those who advertise or hold reviews on his board over to vice in the cities of sting op's.
note*** so in all actuality MR. David R Elms President of TER is taking our monies to get on the boards for so called "VIP MEMBERSHIP" and handing over our personal info. to keep his role in tacked on TER and also selling out the little ppl ("who really make ter what it is") to vice in exchange for immunity
GOOD RACKET YOU GOT GOING ON OVER THERE, MR DAVID ELMS
(I Wonder if Mr. Elms is vice himself!!!!!)
ADVICE TO ALL******:
PROVIDERS: have your reviews removed immediately as to the vice and men in blue are using the top lists and new reviews lists to go after high profiled providers whether it be good rev's or bad (any review will put you on the new reviews list no matter what state you are in) they are using these lists especially in NY as a road map on who to go after next!!!!!!
JOHN'S: be very careful on who you see no matter how many reviews a certain provider has. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING INCRIMINATING!!!!!(THE USE OF ACRONYMS AND HOBBY SLANG IS A BIG NO NO ALSO!!!!!!! AS THE USE OF THESE WILL ALSO BE USED IN A COURT OF LAW AGAINST YOU), and be aware of your surroundings.
THAT SAID, HAPPY HOBBY'ING AND STAY SAFE AND STAY OFF OF TER UNLESS YOU ARE USING A DIFFERENT IP ADDY OTHER THAN YOUR OWN, AND CREDIT CARD #'S
FROM:
AN EX MOD AND ACTIVE HOBBYIST OF THE HOBBY
p.s......for Mr. David R. Elms (because we all know he is going to read this)
Mr. David R. Elms you can kiss my ass and the asses of all other hobby'ists and providers whom you have given info out on, turned on, and just fucked with in general. I told you when I left on my own from TER that I would expose you and your extorting ways to the public one day. well here I am and this is just the beginning of a long list that I have transpired on you and your staff on the************.com and dont say that this is b/s because if MSNCB has info about you on there pages (and from what I know about you personally) is true
FULL EXPOSURE ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF IS SOON TO COME
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A Consumer guide to prostitution!
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10879309/[/url]
Angelica is a shade over 5½ feet tall. She is in her late 20s, and she has straight brown hair down to the middle of her back. She has an athletic body with surgically sculpted breasts. She sports a few tattoos but no pubic hair, and her belly button is pierced.
For the right price — which she pegs at $350 an hour, to start — Angelica will have sex with you. She will perform unprotected oral sex, and she will usually agree to anal intercourse. She will, if you have the money, bring a second lady with her, and they will have sex with each other for your enjoyment. Or, if you wish, she will set up an S&M scene.
We know all this about Angelica because she is a professional escort, and you can read what her customers say about her on Web sites where men who purchase such services gather to review and rate thousands of working ladies like her.
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There is a great deal more — very explicit and very detailed — about Angelica and what she does in her profile on The Erotic Review, the largest of the escort-rating Web sites. In its aim and practice, it essentially is a consumer guide for prostitutes and johns.
“I know from an escort’s point of view the review boards really, really help a lot, because everyone always asks, ‘Well, do you have reviews?’” said Billie, an escort in a Midwestern state whose name, like those of all other escorts cited in this report, has been changed. “If they’re bad, that’s not good, but when they’re good ones, it really helps an escort get established when she’s just starting out.”
Not all escorts sell sex. Some sell sensual massages or even actual, non-sexual dinner companionship. But law enforcement officials estimate that 90 percent to 95 percent of the escorts listed on the Web sites are selling sex. And there is very little the police can do about it, even when it is openly discussed on sites like The Erotic Review.
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Sites stay several steps ahead of the law
Pursuing ‘the hobby’
Many men make a lifestyle out of patronizing escorts. They call it “the hobby,” not prostitution, and they are “hobbyists,” not johns. They consider themselves connoisseurs of fine women, and they are eager to learn from their fellow hobbyists who will provide exactly what they want.
What they want is generally very clear: They want a centerfold model who will hang adoringly on their every word in public, then perform any sex act in any position with professional skill in private. The combination — a romantic dinner date followed by uninhibited sex — is called the “girlfriend experience,” or GFE. Of Angelica, a reviewer wrote, “The term GFE should be based on what she is.”
How this story was reported
The names of all escorts in this report have been changed, and their locations have been withheld. An MSNBC.com reporter wrote or called them through the contact information provided in their reviews on The Erotic Review, for which he registered using his real name and his MSNBC.com address. He immediately identified himself as a reporter and explained the nature of the articles to every woman who was approached for an interview.
Before review sites came along, hobbyists had no way to protect themselves, said David R. Elms, president of The Erotic Review, which began in 1999 and claims that it gets 350,000 unique visitors a day.
“I’m a hobbyist, and I was getting ripped off,” Elms said. “There was no way to hold people accountable for their actions.
“There had to be a way to get this information out,” he said. “If a guy got ripped off or he received good service, then he could tell somebody. We treat it as something equivalent to going out on a hot date and telling a hundred thousand of your closest friends.”
Officially, review sites insist that it is just the hot date that men are paying for — in other words, companionship and conversation, not sex. Whatever happens beyond that “is purely a matter of personal choice and personal preference between two or more consenting adults,” says a disclaimer on Big Doggie, another nationwide escort review site. The Erotic Review goes further: “You can give it away for free, but you can’t sell it.”
But interviews with working escorts across the country and with review-site operators, activists for prostitutes’ rights and law enforcement officials bear out what is evident in the reviews themselves: Sex is the “it” being sold.
“‘Escorts’ — right,” said Master Sgt. Bruce C. Woodbury, head of the Vice/Morals Unit of the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office in Tampa, Fla., which mounted an ultimately unsuccessful sting operation against Big Doggie in 2002. “Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.”
For escorts, a complicated relationship
Professional escorts have a love-hate relationship with The Erotic Review and Big Doggie, where, for a monthly or quarterly fee, men can find out exactly what a woman’s customers think of her.
The sites represent the ultimate commodification of women, who are impersonally rated by anonymous men in much the same way they would judge a sports car or a racehorse. Some find it demeaning, but most acknowledge that it’s a fast, easy way to build a reliable client base.
“It’s a double-edged sword,” said Helen, a $350-an-hour escort in a Western state, who said she was in the business to make enough money to go to graduate school so she could teach.
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“Yes, it does give you exposure that you may not otherwise get,” she said. But at the same time, an escort can find her livelihood held hostage to the whims of a customer who doesn’t get exactly what he wants, at the price he wants to pay.
“This lady spoke to a client she considered a friend, and she was apparently very upset because the guy had threatened to post a bad review,” Helen said. “I’ve personally never had it happen, but I know it has happened.”
The sites serve another purpose, too: They make prostitution a little safer, because women can challenge unfair or inaccurate reviews in forums on the sites and they can lodge complaints with site administrators.
Much more than streetwalkers or prostitutes who are controlled by pimps, a professional escort has a significant element of control, because she can screen potential clients, who already know how pricey her services are — top-dollar escorts in New York have been known to command $2,000 an hour.
That control is elevated when a client comes to her through a review site. Reviewers earn credibility by the accuracy of their reviews, so over time, an escort can essentially rate the men who are rating her.
Robyn Few, a former prostitute who lobbies to decriminalize prostitution as executive director of the Sex Workers Outreach Project in San Francisco, said that on a personal level, “I hate it” that women are “being reviewed and rated like some subhuman.”
But she added: “The Erotic Review and Big Doggie took some of the danger out of it. When providers have a bad client, they write about it. ... It’s one way to out the bad guys.”
Billie, who said she got at least 90 percent of her business through The Erotic Review and a similar local review site, said: “I haven’t had a bad experience at all. The people that I have seen, or whatever, they have all been professionals — really upper-class people.”
Cleaning up prostitution
If nothing else, Few and many escorts say, the success of The Erotic Review and Big Doggie demonstrate that prostitution can be a respectable business. For the first time, the women are not victims, they say — they are not walking the streets, and they are relatively protected, and they run their own business affairs.
Now it is the customer who must solicit the prostitute, not the other way around, as it has always been through history. From the safety and relative anonymity of their living rooms, highly rated independent escorts like Billie and Helen can pick and choose from hundreds of potential clients.
“I pretty much have regular clients now,” said Billie, whose ratings are consistently 8 to 10 (out of 10) for both appearance and “performance.” These are men whom she has screened and whom she trusts, and she thinks that’s why “I’ve never been cheated or anything.”
In the future, the balance of power will shift more and more to women who approach prostitution as a profession and can take advantage of advances in technology, said Few, the sex workers advocate.
“We are not going to stop prostitution. We are not going to stop it,” she said. “It is not going to be abolished. It is not going away. And the Internet has connected us around the world.”
Said Helen, the escort from the West: “Technology increases exponentially. So who knows what’s going to be out there in 10 years?”
Princess, a little shorty headed your way
supposed to be in the LA area
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Duh this Country is fucked up
TJ pretty close,Costa Rica 5hrs from LAX. Columbia,Brazil,Argentina A bit further.So when ever possile I take my hard earned U.S dollars and support the sweet little single mommies of latin america! Better prices,Better Service,the customer is king. No legal issues, No police harrassment,Just my two cents.
