Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=Butterfly77;1520031]Please keep in mind, this business is a two-way street. We deal with just as much B. S. As you do. I can not speak for all providers, but me personally, I will treat you as I am treated. If you want to be a jerk, I can be one too. Treat others how you want to be treated. In all honesty, this is an ugly business and a lot of people get treated unfairly on BOTH sides of the fence. I would suggest finding one girl you vibe with and sticking to it as opposed to finding a new girl each time. I personally love my regulars and will choose them any day over a new client because its what is more comfortable. There are a lot of shady characters out there both clients and providers. It is up to us to pick and choose.[/QUOTE]"I would suggest finding one girl you vibe with and sticking to it as opposed to finding a new girl each time."

LOL might as well get married then. Variety is the spice of life. I think a general rule is most guys will see a provider a about 3 or 4 times then it's on to some new blood.

"There are a lot of shady characters out there both clients and providers."

Believe me I know there are a lot of shady clients, I would hope most guys realize this and I don't think being a provider is easy. I try to be one of the good guys. =)

I didn't know where to put this so I decided to write it over here. The guy came this evening and went with Jenny inside the room. He told her he didn't want to wear a raincoat and Jenny told him no while he was ripping her clothes off. She got out the raincoat to put on him and he's telling her he's allergic to the raincoat and she told him she has to use it. He then demanded his donation back which he had already shorted her the amount and was very verbally abusive in his language. And then he left. I don't know what you guys think about this. Jenny and I do not cater to anything without a cover. We are very health conscious individuals Please if you are looking for anything uncovered do not call us so we can avoid this situation in the future.

Jasmine Smith

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith; 1661823]I didn't know where to put this so I decided to write it over here. The guy came this evening and went with Jenny inside the room. He told her he didn't want to wear a raincoat and Jenny told him no while he was ripping her clothes off. She got out the raincoat to put on him and he's telling her he's allergic to the raincoat and she told him she has to use it. He then demanded his donation back which he had already shorted her the amount and was very verbally abusive in his language. And then he left. I don't know what you guys think about this. Jenny and I do not cater to anything without a cover. We are very health conscious individuals Please if you are looking for anything uncovered do not call us so we can avoid this situation in the future.

Jasmine Smith[/QUOTE]I mean honestly if a jerk comes in acting like that just give them their money back at the jump and tell them to leave. Why even discuss not giving them their money back or just a portion? Is it really worth having a crazy guy beat your ass over it? Just send them out with their cash in their pocket. Too easy.

[QUOTE=Svtcobra;1662112]I mean honestly if a jerk comes in acting like that just give them their money back at the jump and tell them to leave. Why even discuss not giving them their money back or just a portion? Is it really worth having a crazy guy beat your ass over it? Just send them out with their cash in their pocket. Too easy.[/QUOTE]She did give back his money and I booted his butt out.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith; 1661823]I didn't know where to put this so I decided to write it over here. The guy came this evening and went with Jenny inside the room. He told her he didn't want to wear a raincoat and Jenny told him no while he was ripping her clothes off. She got out the raincoat to put on him and he's telling her he's allergic to the raincoat and she told him she has to use it. He then demanded his donation back which he had already shorted her the amount and was very verbally abusive in his language. And then he left. I don't know what you guys think about this. Jenny and I do not cater to anything without a cover. We are very health conscious individuals Please if you are looking for anything uncovered do not call us so we can avoid this situation in the future.

Jasmine Smith[/QUOTE]Jasmine I have not met you yet so I don't know you. I'm a little confused here though. I understand everything about the "raincoat." However, how exactly was this guy ripping Jenny's clothes off? I mean was this guy getting very hostile? Could you tell if he was maybe drunk? Was he somebody who found out about you from on here? Did he contact you on here personally? If this guy was ripping Jenny's clothes off as if he was trying to force her into something, I must say that is unfortunately a problem for all parties involved. Not trying to sound like a jerk here or anything, but if the police came to your location because of something like that, you and your colleagues word would be about as good as rotten tomatoes because of the business you are in. So here is my advice. You said the guy already shortened Jenny on the donation from the start, so if that is true, you ask him to leave immediately, and make sure to give him all his money back.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith; 1661823]I didn't know where to put this so I decided to write it over here. The guy came this evening and went with Jenny inside the room. He told her he didn't want to wear a raincoat and Jenny told him no while he was ripping her clothes off. She got out the raincoat to put on him and he's telling her he's allergic to the raincoat and she told him she has to use it. He then demanded his donation back which he had already shorted her the amount and was very verbally abusive in his language. And then he left. I don't know what you guys think about this. Jenny and I do not cater to anything without a cover. We are very health conscious individuals Please if you are looking for anything uncovered do not call us so we can avoid this situation in the future.

Jasmine Smith[/QUOTE]I hope that wasn't someone from this board. But if it was, they should be outed and chastised immediately. Always one bad apple in the bunch.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith;1662164]She did give back his money and I booted his butt out.[/QUOTE]Jasmine,

No matter WHAT, he doesn't have the right to assault anybody else. Yours is a service business. If he does not wish to partake of the particular type of services that you offer, he is free to take his money and look elsewhere.

He was obviously looking to get her vulnerable and get what he wanted. If she's not consenting to it, that's rape. Plain and simple.

At the point she said covered only, and he said no, he should have asked for his money back and left like a decent human being. If he kept pushing, he should be refused service and be thrown out on his behind.

Cage

[QUOTE=CajunFlame; 1663178]Jasmine,

No matter WHAT, he doesn't have the right to assault anybody else. Yours is a service business. If he does not wish to partake of the particular type of services that you offer, he is free to take his money and look elsewhere.

He was obviously looking to get her vulnerable and get what he wanted. If she's not consenting to it, that's rape. Plain and simple.

At the point she said covered only, and he said no, he should have asked for his money back and left like a decent human being. If he kept pushing, he should be refused service and be thrown out on his behind.

Cage[/QUOTE]You are right that if she's not consenting to it that it is rape. However, However, Jenny's side of the story and the guy's side of the story would both pretty much be no good in this case. Even if Jasmine was to back Jenny up if the police had to come or something, the guy just saying to the police that he was there to pay for some "services" is enough to make the police be suspicious of Jasmine and her colleagues. Best thing Jasmine and her colleagues can do is give the guy his money back and ask him to leave if he can't comply. Simple as that.

[QUOTE=Zipper34;1662240]Jasmine I have not met you yet so I don't know you. I'm a little confused here though. I understand everything about the "raincoat." However, how exactly was this guy ripping Jenny's clothes off? I mean was this guy getting very hostile? Could you tell if he was maybe drunk? Was he somebody who found out about you from on here? Did he contact you on here personally? If this guy was ripping Jenny's clothes off as if he was trying to force her into something, I must say that is unfortunately a problem for all parties involved. Not trying to sound like a jerk here or anything, but if the police came to your location because of something like that, you and your colleagues word would be about as good as rotten tomatoes because of the business you are in. So here is my advice. You said the guy already shortened Jenny on the donation from the start, so if that is true, you ask him to leave immediately, and make sure to give him all his money back.[/QUOTE]I don't think you are sounding like a jerk. I also don't think you are going to get answers to your questions. From Jasmine's perspective, there is more harm (risk) to her and Jenny by outing such a client on a "public" board than there is value. And yes, I know many of us "guys" will have a different perspective, but that is easy for us to take that position. I only ask that if any want to put forth that different perspective, they start a different thread.

I will go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of posters here are not accepting of such poor client behaviour. While they may not be right for everyone, these ladies offer a good service for a good value. From the perspective of some, they offer a great service. They are NOT B&S, upsell artists, scam, rip-off or anything else that would draw the ire of posters here.

IMO, Jasmine has handled the situation and her intent of posting was to make sure we knew both her and Jenny's boundaries and to ask that if any of us had or foresaw an issue with those boundaries that we simply not contact them in the first place. I only wish more ladies were so upfront.

And Zipper, not sure of your asian appetitie, but I absolutely do recco them.

[QUOTE=Zipper34;1662240]Jasmine I have not met you yet so I don't know you. I'm a little confused here though. I understand everything about the "raincoat." However, how exactly was this guy ripping Jenny's clothes off? I mean was this guy getting very hostile? Could you tell if he was maybe drunk? Was he somebody who found out about you from on here? Did he contact you on here personally? If this guy was ripping Jenny's clothes off as if he was trying to force her into something, I must say that is unfortunately a problem for all parties involved. Not trying to sound like a jerk here or anything, but if the police came to your location because of something like that, you and your colleagues word would be about as good as rotten tomatoes because of the business you are in. So here is my advice. You said the guy already shortened Jenny on the donation from the start, so if that is true, you ask him to leave immediately, and make sure to give him all his money back.[/QUOTE]Zipper,

I don't know if he is a member on this site or not. Unfortunately I was sick with an ear and sinus infection all week so I didn't book the client for Jenny. She booked her own client and got a bad apple.

The thing about Jenny is she doesn't know how to check for references or anything like that. I would like to book all the clients for me and her but sometimes I'm busy and have no time to answer the phone. I know he ripped her clothes because her underwear was torn up. When she finally stopped arguing with him I told her to give back his money and he quieted down. I did tell him he should've asked if we offered that type of service before he came over because we would've just told him to call someone else. I don't think he 's going to call the police or anything like that because he just seemed like he was the type of person who wanted something for almost close to nothing. I think he would've done the same thing if he went to see someone else.

[QUOTE=Zipper34;1662240]Jasmine I have not met you yet so I don't know you. I'm a little confused here though. I understand everything about the "raincoat." However, how exactly was this guy ripping Jenny's clothes off? I mean was this guy getting very hostile? Could you tell if he was maybe drunk? Was he somebody who found out about you from on here? Did he contact you on here personally? If this guy was ripping Jenny's clothes off as if he was trying to force her into something, I must say that is unfortunately a problem for all parties involved. Not trying to sound like a jerk here or anything, but if the police came to your location because of something like that, you and your colleagues word would be about as good as rotten tomatoes because of the business you are in. So here is my advice. You said the guy already shortened Jenny on the donation from the start, so if that is true, you ask him to leave immediately, and make sure to give him all his money back.[/QUOTE]Those questions ran through my mind too. The first thing that's interesting is that the guy allegedly shorted Jenny on the donation from the start. If that's the case, why didn't she decline right then and ask him to leave? Perhaps she agreed to cut him a break and then he decided to see how far he could go by further manipulating her? Who knows?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1664058]Those questions ran through my mind too. The first thing that's interesting is that the guy allegedly shorted Jenny on the donation from the start. If that's the case, why didn't she decline right then and ask him to leave? Perhaps she agreed to cut him a break and then he decided to see how far he could go by further manipulating her? Who knows?[/QUOTE]Nite, AMP, and everybody else too, I'm going to have to say something doesn't make sense here to me. First, Jasmine is telling us about an incident that happened between Jenny and the guy who was there. I wonder if she knows for sure what happened between Jenny and this guy, or is just taking Jenny's word for it. Second, why is she even posting about a bad incident that happened at her place on this board, when it is very possible that it was probably someone from this board who was involved in this incident? Third, the person who was involved in this incident defintely knows where Jasmine and company reside now and who knows how crazy this guy is, especially if he did really try to rip the clothes off of Jenny and wanted to go bareback even though Jenny kept saying "no, no, no." So, I'm going to have to say something is off here after thinking about it. Again I must say that I have never met Jasmine like everybody else has, but her story and posting about it on here does not make sense at all to me.

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith; 1663803]Zipper,

I don't know if he is a member on this site or not. Unfortunately I was sick with an ear and sinus infection all week so I didn't book the client for Jenny. She booked her own client and got a bad apple.

The thing about Jenny is she doesn't know how to check for references or anything like that. I would like to book all the clients for me and her but sometimes I'm busy and have no time to answer the phone. I know he ripped her clothes because her underwear was torn up. When she finally stopped arguing with him I told her to give back his money and he quieted down. I did tell him he should've asked if we offered that type of service before he came over because we would've just told him to call someone else. I don't think he 's going to call the police or anything like that because he just seemed like he was the type of person who wanted something for almost close to nothing. I think he would've done the same thing if he went to see someone else.[/QUOTE]My Darling Jasmine. You keep up the good work and protect yourself from these jerks. It is your business and you do a great job managing it. Damn, another ripped clothes. Was it our friend from earlier at a AMP? Hmm, no one taking up on the clothes ripper this time? SMH.

Sorry we could not have dinner Sunday, but you need to get well and be in good shape to handle ol Jimmy. LOL LOL OH wait, I forgot, You and Jenny are just about right to control me. LOL LOL

Love Ya and Jen, see you later.

Wet Dreams, PW

[QUOTE=Zipper34;1664280]Nite, AMP, and everybody else too, I'm going to have to say something doesn't make sense here to me. First, Jasmine is telling us about an incident that happened between Jenny and the guy who was there. I wonder if she knows for sure what happened between Jenny and this guy, or is just taking Jenny's word for it. Second, why is she even posting about a bad incident that happened at her place on this board, when it is very possible that it was probably someone from this board who was involved in this incident? Third, the person who was involved in this incident defintely knows where Jasmine and company reside now and who knows how crazy this guy is, especially if he did really try to rip the clothes off of Jenny and wanted to go bareback even though Jenny kept saying "no, no, no." So, I'm going to have to say something is off here after thinking about it. Again I must say that I have never met Jasmine like everybody else has, but her story and posting about it on here does not make sense at all to me.[/QUOTE]Geeze, SMH, what does not make sense? You are just reading between the lines and just causing drama.

She explained it and told the reason before as to why she posted. Did you not read that? She said she posted it to let ALL know that everything is covered and she is very safe and does not allow uncovered in her place and did not want anyone to think otherwise. Now does it make sense to you?

You have not met her and if you did know her, maybe it would have been easier for you to understand. No insults or drama intended. Go see her sometime and have a great day.

SMH, and Wet Dreams, PW

[QUOTE=Jasmine Smith; 1663803]Zipper,

I don't know if he is a member on this site or not. Unfortunately I was sick with an ear and sinus infection all week so I didn't book the client for Jenny. She booked her own client and got a bad apple.

The thing about Jenny is she doesn't know how to check for references or anything like that. I would like to book all the clients for me and her but sometimes I'm busy and have no time to answer the phone. I know he ripped her clothes because her underwear was torn up. When she finally stopped arguing with him I told her to give back his money and he quieted down. I did tell him he should've asked if we offered that type of service before he came over because we would've just told him to call someone else. I don't think he 's going to call the police or anything like that because he just seemed like he was the type of person who wanted something for almost close to nothing. I think he would've done the same thing if he went to see someone else.[/QUOTE]Jasmie, I did not see the post before I posted the other one that was saying how something didn't make sense with your story, and for that I do apologize as I may have missed this post I'm replying to now. I now have a more clear picture in my head of what happened. It does sound like this guy was an idiot for sure. Saying that, it is probably likely that one of your regulars or somebody you see sometimes who you met from this forum may have gave your contact info to a newbie, but unfortunately there is no way to find out who gave your contact info to a newbie. Only thing I can suggest to you is to make sure you and your other two girls only book from trusted members of this forum and people you know well enough for now, so an incident like this does not happen again.