Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Voyrforu28; 1484571]Hi all, I am relatively new to the AMP scene, but thanks to all of you, I feel like I am well informed with all the posts here. Anyways, I just made my first visit to ABC. I was shown a lineup of 4 girls, all pretty, but none that I would rate as a 9 or 10, but still not bad. I know Summer was in the lineup, but I decided to pick Serena. She has large breasts, and I would guess late 20's, maybe older. She told me she has only been there 1 week.

TS was very nice, hands only in all the right places. Then, back to the room, where she asks for the money up front. So, $.6 was already given to the house, and I hand her what I thought was the standard fee of 1. 4. She says, no baby, more, and gives me that disappointed look. I tell her that all I have. She says, prices have gone up. Anyways, she accepts my money and we begin. She gets naked, and us nice to look at, but I somehow feel like I'm not going to get the best service possible (no DATY, for instance).

Overall, session was nice, but I didn't like the upselling. I ask her afterwards what the expected fee is and ahe says 1. 6.

Question for the group, have prices officially gone up? I've seen others post similar experiences. Also, can someone confirm if Summer's breasts are real or enhanced? I thought that I've read conflicting reports on her. It's good to feel like a contributor on this board. Thanks again for all the, great reviews.[/QUOTE]The only way prices have officially gone up is if we give in. I wonder what she would do if you had said put your clothes on and just give me the hour massage, no extras, and if you get shorted on time, no tip, otherwise only 10 or 20 and that's for the complete hour. I'm sure the closing of OS has everything to do with this. Simple supply & demand, but the supply hasn't diminished that much, still plenty of good AMPs around and new ones open all the time.

[QUOTE=Voyrforu28;1484571]Question for the group, have prices officially gone up? I've seen others post similar experiences.[/QUOTE] No! At least not until that's how much people are willing to routinely pay and start doing so. If we're not willing to pay increased prices then it won't happen, and if folks stay away from providers AMPs where upselling occurs then maybe they'll get the message. Maybe, to start, turning down someone at a spa and mentioning to the mamasan that it's because of reports she's upselling will get someone's attention.

BTW, that was a great first review and a very good way to get started in this forum. It's nice to see a newcomer that wants to actually participate rather than just asking redundant questions and not contributing anything.

I have been absorbing the info NMS and Lily are apparently where I want to go for non-full service, so I tried both:

I went to NMS and found the new upstairs location. Unfortunately, the masseuse I got was not at all attractive, nor were any of the others I saw when I was there. Mine was probably 30's but exceedingly plain and a bit dumpy. Sorry I did not get her name. Maybe it was a bad time. About 4 PM on the weekend. Maybe I should have asked for a lineup, but I am a newbie and I did not have the balls.

I did get a table shower, which briefly touched on the sensitive areas to ensure their hygiene. She certainly gave it a shot at a therapeutic massage, but definitely not to be compared to a CMT. I did leave less tense, but not so much happy. As for roaming, I was not even tempted to try OTC.

So I went to Lilly. On another day.

They were busy, since it was Saturday nite 2AM. I asked for and waited for Sunny, given my last experience and the recommendations here. She is very nice and in shape, but easily 40s and quite possibly 50s. She did not strike me as very attractive, either, but I may be spoiled by time in Asia, where the massage experience is quite different.

The table shower was ok. Thorough and with appropriate attention to the bits. The massage was pretty good, almost professional in quality. The ending was nice as well, but I think she was used to having to overcome "whiskey dick", given the hour, and kind of rushed it, which does not leave me as satisfied. Maybe my luck would be better another time and as she gets to know me.

In any case, this is not really what I am looking for and I am looking for advice on what to try next. I would really prefer an attractive young girl, with a crappy massage and a long hand job. Maybe this is not possible, or maybe the places with attractive ladies are all full service only and they will be grumpy if you do not want to get and pay for full service. Maybe my standards are too high, but there are some ladies at Desire and Fantasy that would do it for me. Maybe I will burn some extra cash to see if I can make that work. Seems like YMMV per girl and they will likely milk me for as much as possible before getting to that point.

On the subject of Strip Clubs. I looked around and will write a full report in that topic later, but here is my brief impression of two. (And I will remove it from here if it is inappropriate.) At Desire, the waitresses, especially the asian one, seem much more attractive than all but one or two of the strippers. Not to be picky, but finding a nice ass in there is a challenge. At Club Fantasy, there are several very attractive strippers with nice bodies, including asses, but the others look like they have had some sort of surgery or injection to make them enormous. Maybe it is me and I simply do not appreciate all that "cushion for the pushin". I confess to being more of a tit man.

[QUOTE=Voyrforu28; 1484571]Hi all, I am relatively new to the AMP scene, but thanks to all of you, I feel like I am well informed with all the posts here. Anyways, I just made my first visit to ABC. I was shown a lineup of 4 girls, all pretty, but none that I would rate as a 9 or 10, but still not bad. I know Summer was in the lineup, but I decided to pick Serena. She has large breasts, and I would guess late 20's, maybe older. She told me she has only been there 1 week.

TS was very nice, hands only in all the right places. Then, back to the room, where she asks for the money up front. So, $.6 was already given to the house, and I hand her what I thought was the standard fee of 1. 4. She says, no baby, more, and gives me that disappointed look. I tell her that all I have. She says, prices have gone up. Anyways, she accepts my money and we begin. She gets naked, and us nice to look at, but I somehow feel like I'm not going to get the best service possible (no DATY, for instance).

Overall, session was nice, but I didn't like the upselling. I ask her afterwards what the expected fee is and ahe says 1. 6.

Question for the group, have prices officially gone up? I've seen others post similar experiences. Also, can someone confirm if Summer's breasts are real or enhanced? I thought that I've read conflicting reports on her. It's good to feel like a contributor on this board. Thanks again for all the, great reviews.[/QUOTE]The best advice I can give to newer folk to the hobby is to RTF. It will provide you with important information to help make your choice and visits the best experience for you. It makes it easier to look like you ve been there before. Also the holder of cash is always king until the power is relinquished. Don't relinquish your power too early. This certainly is an acquired skill but isn't impossible.

The gals / mamasans can smell a "newbie" easily if you are unprepared. You can easily say good bye to more than needs to be spent. A newbie venturing into a FS place could easily get thrown into sticker shock or flustered by a "negotiator" the one who is holding the cash has control. Know the "script" to a visit and know "your parts / lines".

Many seasoned hobbyists here have held ground not to overspend or upsell. Rarely one walks out after just paying house fee due to un reasonable upsell and believe me you will see the report here and the trends too.

Also one has to be respectful to known "standards" and you wish that goes for the "house" too. No tip is no $ for the lady and less chance for you being a repeat customer.

Every now and then we read about "push back" from the AMP's on higher tipping. Wonder if recent landscape changes are impacting?

It would be an interesting question to see if ABC has benefited most from OS departure from local scene recently and along with increasing 1021 dissatisfaction being posted? And if the trend of "pushback" expecting higher $ than present standards in area.

We have to hold strong and not give in

Overall I agree that prices are not going up but are stable. I have been mongeirng for sometime and the 60/140 split at Asian Spas in Providence has been the same for ever. You will run into some girls that want more and some that may take a little less if you cry poor-its been a bad week at work etc. I think you can do better with some of the independants that advertise on BP but as we all know it is a crap shoot and I like the flexibility of being able to show up at a spa without an appt when youhave free time. While my last review of ABC was less than stellar-the quality of the girls, massage and service are pretty consistent at most FS spas in RI as well as the other spas tha offer less services but get the job done. Basically you know what you are getting and how much it wil cost. I just wish there were some American staffed spas similar to the Asian spas as you don't alway feel going the Asian route as variety is one of the reasons I play the game.

As an aside-I usually frequent NMS and Lily's for massage and HJ service, are there any places that offer better than these for those services? Younger prettier girls or at these the 2 best for this type of session?

[QUOTE=AsianLPGAfan; 1484931]The best advice I can give to newer folk to the hobby is to RTF. It will provide you with important information to help make your choice and visits the best experience for you. It makes it easier to look like you ve been there before. Also the holder of cash is always king until the power is relinquished. Don't relinquish your power too early. This certainly is an acquired skill but isn't impossible.

The gals / mamasans can smell a "newbie" easily if you are unprepared. You can easily say good bye to more than needs to be spent. A newbie venturing into a FS place could easily get thrown into sticker shock or flustered by a "negotiator" the one who is holding the cash has control. Know the "script" to a visit and know "your parts / lines".

Many seasoned hobbyists here have held ground not to overspend or upsell. Rarely one walks out after just paying house fee due to un reasonable upsell and believe me you will see the report here and the trends too.

Also one has to be respectful to known "standards" and you wish that goes for the "house" too. No tip is no $ for the lady and less chance for you being a repeat customer.

Every now and then we read about "push back" from the AMP's on higher tipping. Wonder if recent landscape changes are impacting?

It would be an interesting question to see if ABC has benefited most from OS departure from local scene recently and along with increasing 1021 dissatisfaction being posted? And if the trend of "pushback" expecting higher $ than present standards in area.

We have to hold strong and not give in[/QUOTE]I do think we are in a downturn in the Quality, Time given and an upturn in tips expected by the Spa's. With the demise of OS, the poor service and quality of 1021 and the ever growing demand of Mass Mongers heading south a few Spa's have taken notice for sure. And they will push the limit to see what they can get away with! Be prepared for the higher costs, lower level service and shorted time to be more frequent. Its a matter of economics and these Spa owners, Managers and Girls smell blood in the water. A newbie will get eaten alive in this environment if they don't prepare themselves ahead of time!

I ALWAYS give the girl the full amount of everything I plan to spend right at the beginning! I just like to get all that out of the way and not be interupted by any negotiating or un needed waits. I have yet to have any girl question or try and renegotiate after I do it that way!

I've been reading this board for a few weeks now and I used to post a few times on the other board (which I think did a much better job than this one in terms of setting up threads). I don't know how the rest of you all got into this, but when I was about 23 in the mid 90s, I worked a lot and was in need of a massage. I lived in North Jersey at the time and had been apartment hunting, so I was looking in the New Jersey Star Ledger for apartments in the real estate section of the classifieds for days. It just so happens that the real estate is right next to the personal and services sections. I would always see these ads posted for massage, so I figured I really needed one and I would go. I had absolutely no idea about HE, let alone FS and anything else. I go to this place (I'm a white guy, good looking, really fit) and I just figure this is a massage. I lay down on the table with my boxers on. The masseuse was a black girl, kind of heavy. She keeps asking me if I want to take my boxers off and I'm like,"no". She massages me, while I lay on my stomach, then I do the flip and again the massage. Just straight stuff, but I could see that this chick thought I was crazy, wondering why I hadn't even attempted to suggest anything. We're near the end of the session and she's asking me if I want anything else and I say no. When I keep rebuffing her for extras and eventually put my clothes on, I just tip her and that's it, but she was sooo pissed! Needless to say, I tell a buddy of mine about this and he tells me that "don't you know what happens at those places?" and he tells me.

From that point on, I was intrigued. This was before the internet was heavily in use and certainly before CL, BP and another site. For the next four years, I would check out the Star-Ledger or Daily Record for ads for massage. I was driving to Union, Totowa, Plainfield, Whiteside, all of these places in North and Central Jersey. Very rarely did I get a legit provider. All of it was TOFTT, because I was the only member of the "team"!

I move back to Mass about 12 years ago and discover there's a scene here too, but much, much different. All of the chicks or "spinners" here are Asian, or at least most of them. This wasn't the case in Jersey. Almost all were American and maybe more than half were white. Plus, they were usually hot and with pretty nice bodies and features. MA and RI, not so much. I think we all do this for different reasons. I personally like the unknown if the chick is going to be hot or not or just how far she'll let me go or even if I can extend it beyond the spa. I personally don't even care much about the massage. When I'm laying there, there's the thrill of thinking,"Is she going to start caressing my balls and shaft and turn this into more than a massage" If the girl isn't good looking or have a nice body or speak English, then it's probably not going to be a good experience for me. I'm very picky and I know I need to take what is given, but I guess it adds to the search for me, to find the hot providers.

I've been to DT and love it. I've been to CH and had a good experience. Lily just isn't my thing. I've had good and bad experiences at 1021. I was recently at SP, because I thought it would be more what I'm looking for and was, but I want to tap that American scene more. I have no problem TOFTT and want to try Deborah at TanSmart, formerly from Capital. I even want to see what happens with Michelle, that yoga-trained chick, who seems legit as hell and has posted on CL maybe twice, but I want to try.

Anyway, sorry for the book, just kind of wanted to introduce myself. I'm sure a better intro would have been a review, so I'll have to follow with one soon.

Hey M's.

I just wanted to give my 2 cents, I was heading to Providence debating what spa I wanted to go to, I was going to give DT another try, I hadn't seen many Dt reviews since I went, and wasn't sure if they had fixed there Ts problem. Then I figured I was going to 1021, but something changed my mind and decided and said try ABC.

Well I had forgot about the traffic and how much far out it was from 1021, well I got there. If you remember a time ago I posted that I could not find it, well I did, and wanted to kick myself in the ass. When I tried to find it the first I was in the BK across the street and couldn't see the sign, but that's the past.

I drove in the parking lot and there were 2 fellow mongers there this was about 3:30 ish, I walk to the door (I don't know why some of you guys have the walk of shame mentality) the door is no more than 15 feet and the traffic passes way to fast for anyone to give a crap. Well I rang the bell and tried to open the door when Mamasan open the door looked me like who the f are you, asked if I had been there before, which of course I said yes, she says when, I just say long time ago. Which she shrugged and showed me a room.

In comes YOYO, she's a real pretty girl, not a stick, but had some meat on her bones (very accepatble) , nice C boobs. Gave me a towel and tells me be right back, I disrobe she comes back and shows me to the TS, I make small talk and she scrubs and teases the right spots. Back to the room, well she took off again for about a minute or 2. Well she comes back and starts a really decent back massage. Well I let her do her massage for 10 minutes and gave her the reach and rubbed her leg which she relaxed a little, she continues to massage and moved down to my legs at which point she places a towel over my but, I was like ok, that's intresting after 30 second or more I say we don't need this a grabbed the towel and threw it on the floor.

Well I guess that must of been the signal to start the races, she gets into character, and lays next to me we start to lfk, which was new for me because most of the girls are into getting it over. I was intrigued and most pleased, well she started out kissing every inch of my body moaning and acting her part as she worked downward, she gave a BBBJ and this girls has nice techinque, I tell her to move her Pie over and start some oral on her, (I don not know why these girls have to apply that KY the first thing) I wish they would ask if we are going to 69 first that Ky is nasty shit. I work through the Ky and she's getting into it.

Well her and I are getting in to it when the urge of nature calls me. I always hate that, she shows me the bathroom, then back to the room. I tell her to lay down on the table, I kneel before her and start a oral session on her. This girl started to twist and turn as she was getting to her moment of O, at one point she had me twisted and started crushing my head with her inner thigh until she O'd. She jumped off the table and told me to get on the table applied the cover and started a CBJ, she looked at me and said you no like Cover, I said no, My little guys doesn't react well with them. So she took it off and started a HJ which was working, but I'm not paying big Money for a HJ, I told her I want pie and she gave that sigh, and applied the cover again, I slid in and was working her mound, but the cover stole my steam. I took the cover off and I start a oral session on her again, and she O'd again. She tells me only a little more time and tells my she'll HJ off. I was like no and had her on her back, I started rubbing her pie with my bare guy after some convincing and she's like no inside with out cover, I was like I know I release this was way, Something changed her mind, maybe the size of my guy or maybe she was really horny, because she slid me inside her with her hand. I had her change to K9, she tells me no release inside, well I reached that point of no return and pulled out w / o cumming inside her. She smilled and have that sigh like body language. Well she clean me and herself up and walked out. When she walked in I was counting out her tip, she gave me a smile as she saw that I counted out 8 jacksons.

Before you all bash me for going bb, I have done it only once before at 1021 with Yung. I know most of you will think that I a Bs artist, but this is what really happen, I have no need to lie.

And I justify the 160 tip for the service that was beyond standard service.

I was actually disappointed with the recent sequence of events. As 1021 took a bit of a quality dive (once my fav) , I ventured to ABC and very fortunately met and repeated with Suzy and Mimi. Phenomenal! I really felt that ABC was well "coached" in terms of the way the experience unfolded. Now with the recent change in QoS at 1021 and the closure of OS, together with the earlier stellar reports of ABC, we have a natural progression of events with ABC. Reports of increase fees and not-so stellar reports. In the business world, it is easy to focus on Quality of Service when you are trying to build a customer base, but gets harder when you get there. For the AMP industry, as the so-called market saturates with a flood of customers, so don't attitudes and value.

Don't mean to preach, just wanted to share an observation.

[QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver; 1485314]I do think we are in a downturn in the Quality, Time given and an upturn in tips expected by the Spa's. With the demise of OS, the poor service and quality of 1021 and the ever growing demand of Mass Mongers heading south a few Spa's have taken notice for sure. And they will push the limit to see what they can get away with! Be prepared for the higher costs, lower level service and shorted time to be more frequent. Its a matter of economics and these Spa owners, Managers and Girls smell blood in the water. A newbie will get eaten alive in this environment if they don't prepare themselves ahead of time!

I ALWAYS give the girl the full amount of everything I plan to spend right at the beginning! I just like to get all that out of the way and not be interupted by any negotiating or un needed waits. I have yet to have any girl question or try and renegotiate after I do it that way![/QUOTE]

Agree that with the increased customer traffic-comes a hit on the quality of service provided. Once they have built a client base and then additional mongers show up due to the positive reviews-they turn into a churn and burn place that sacrifices quality to get more people in and out. Also the girls are less apt to click with you and enjoy themsleves if they have to go through multiple sessions in one day-over and over. I always wondered how many sessions a typical AMP girl does in a given day. I alwas try to hit the AMP early in the a. M. In hopes I am the first customer of the day. Not that I mind sloppy seconds to the fine gentlemen on this board, I just feel the girl may be more into it if it her first encounter of the day.

I was somewhat disappointed with ABC the other day-not bad-just not as good as I had expected. Planning on going to Far East this weekend-any reccs. On girls there? Haven't been there in months and I am not sure what the rotation look likes.

Visited 725 Branch this week as well and had another nice session with Kerri-BBBJ CIM-swallow. 60. 00 for the 15 min session with 70. 00 tip. I know-130. 00 is a lot for the service but I can't seem to drive by the Branch st. Exit on 95 with out getting off-pun intended.

[QUOTE=Ruggerz66; 1486819]Agree that with the increased customer traffic-comes a hit on the quality of service provided. Once they have built a client base and then additional mongers show up due to the positive reviews-they turn into a churn and burn place that sacrifices quality to get more people in and out. Also the girls are less apt to click with you and enjoy themsleves if they have to go through multiple sessions in one day-over and over. I always wondered how many sessions a typical AMP girl does in a given day. I alwas try to hit the AMP early in the am In hopes I am the first customer of the day. Not that I mind sloppy seconds to the fine gentlemen on this board, I just feel the girl may be more into it if it her first encounter of the day.

I was somewhat disappointed with ABC the other day-not bad-just not as good as I had expected. Planning on going to Far East this weekend-any reccs. On girls there? Haven't been there in months and I am not sure what the rotation look likes.

Visited 725 Branch this week as well and had another nice session with Kerri-BBBJ CIM-swallow. 60. 00 for the 15 min session with 70. 00 tip. I know-130. 00 is a lot for the service but I can't seem to drive by the Branch st. Exit on 95 with out getting off-pun intended.[/QUOTE]ABC has been my favorite spa for a long time, and I'm sorry to say I won't be back until I see much better reports. There are still plenty of spas where a good time can be had, for a normal amount. Bye ABC, it's been fun, but not recently.

[QUOTE=Smoke Screen;1487012]ABC has been my favorite spa for a long time, and I'm sorry to say I won't be back until I see much better reports[/QUOTE]I wonder if, on entering ABC, everyone dropped a word to mamasan about recent bad reports on the internet and how it might effect business might not be worthwhile. I haven't been there in a long time, but maybe next week I might give it a whirl.

The baton has been passed from Mika to Sophia and she is at the helm again. Received a call from her and we had a brief conversation about the state of affairs in Providence. I would expect that things may improve at least in the short run. I agree with the previous posts regarding the ebb and flow of the market. I informed her that the regulars were not very happy. I may pay a visit soon. Haven't been there in awhile.

Had my first visit to DT this past weekend. Drew Judy, pretty face with a nice natural set of C cups. Action started with me face down as she rubbed her naked body on mine and kissed me all over my back. On the flip she started out with BBBJ then moved on to CBJ. Once I was fully at attention she mounted up cowgirl and was very particular about me touching her kitty. I then got her on her back as I stood at the side of the bed and took her missionary. While pumping away and just moments before popping, she stops she and gives me a look as though I was fucking her with a pine cone. I am guessing she was sore, even though I wasn't pounding too hard and shoe was lubed up pretty good.

So now I am losing my enthusiasm and she tries to inspire me with a hand job which was about as passionate as a root canal. After tiring out both hands I said lets try again, this time I would take her from behind. With that, she sighed and said she would have to go let another condom. I start losing my ambition (and hard on) and at this point the moment is ruined and I am done. I told her forget it and she could see my frustration. She leaned me up and there we still 2:0 minutes left on the clock. I tried tipping $ but she insisted on 1. 4 even though I didn't leave happy and I was shorted on time. Didn't want a scene so I coughed up the other. 4 and on the way out she said next time I can choose the girl I want.

Maybe I am getting old or set in my ways, but it seems I have less and less tolerance for things like a poor attitude or being rushed. I'm not saying these girls need to love their job, but at least try to pretend to spoil me for the hour. I will give DT another shot with a different girl and probably try Abc as well. My previous trip to RI was Lily's and I drew a straight up stiff on that one. These mamas need to teach these younger girls how to please a man not just with their touch but with their smile, demeanor, and knowing how to make a customer feel special for that hour he is there.

[QUOTE=TapThePie; 1486460]Hey M's.

Something changed her mind, maybe the size of my guy or maybe she was really horny, because she slid me inside her with her hand. Before you all bash me for going bb, I have done it only once before at 1021 with Yung. I know most of you will think that I a Bs artist, but this is what really happen, I have no need to lie.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me, pretty much the same way, once, way back in 1980 or so. At the old Tropical Retreat in Connecticut. Great days. (And no one straight was worrying about AIDS yet.)