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[QUOTE=FourNick8;5531950]4'10" big tits pushing 60 with the smallest pussy I have seen in a while. Paranoid, no FIV and anything uncovered. BBFS offered for $$ but didn't take it or know if she was serious.[/QUOTE]I had a near identical experience down to the pricing. Also didn't take her up on the BBFS, she is tight enough it wasn't needed which is unusual for me. How much was you CFS? Mine was 150. I overpaid imo but my lower head was doing the thinking.
[QUOTE=JasonCuse;5532892]How old are both girls? I wish ST provided some info like age and race as lingerie pics w no face and basic stats make every girl seem like they could all be the same type but you can easily get a 40 year old Latina who is 5'2 so she has basic features of a young college girl in pics.[/QUOTE]From my experience, most of ST and DT girls are mid 20's. Candace body is tight so mid 20's. Amber probably late 20's or early 30's but you couldn't really tell with that spinner body.
Dreamt I went to Golden Therapy. I just tried it out because it was nearby.
Woman answered the door and she was probably in her 50's, had a mask on the whole time.
Keep in mind, this was my first time and this is my first post. This is all really new to me.
She didn't give me any options, just led me to a room and said it was. 8.
She actually provided a really wonderful massage. I didn't know when to make a move or what to say. But she whispered, it's okay! I was trembling.
No TS but I did get a hot towel and she worked it into my ass a little bit to make sure I was clean I guess!
After the 2nd time she said it's okay, I got the message and flipped and she let my hands roam. She took off her top and she actually had some really nicely shaped perky tits.
I wanted her to take off her mask but she didn't want to.
I flipped and she oiled up her hands to work on the HE. I wanted her to slow down but she eventually stopped listening and I finished laying on my back.
There may be more if I went back but she was really nice and playful. She continued the massage afterwards as well.
4 tip so 1. 20 total. Been thinking about either going back or trying something new.
[QUOTE=Rhinopole;5533262]I infer from what was not said in these reviews that the Won providers remained fully clothed during the massage and allowed no roaming. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]The first time I visited this place, no extra services of any sort (probably thought I was LE) and she remained clothed. Really good massage, but that's it. Second time I went, post-lockdown, the provider remained clothed but allowed me to gently grope and rub her ass (flat and tiny) in her jeans and took direction well to edge me. She also remained fully clothed. Both providers were "old", probably mid-50's. Basically, you should go in there expecting a good massage and standard noVA at most. Don't set your expectations up high. I may revisit as I like the thrill of the hunt to get something more out of them than standard noVA.
[QUOTE=Life410;5532781]Harley has reviews on TER.
I don't know how you go about getting into BG w / o PII. Maybe I would have to run through burner numbers in hopes business has been slow and they just do a standard phone number check.[/QUOTE]As I said they're worth a visit once in a while, but not worth giving too much info. Ex-BG girls are at ST / DT, 4 of them as of now, Jessie, Candace, Harley, Luna. Then Victoria and Emma at Eden. There have been others in the past, so it's not like you can't see them. It says something about the agency when the girls that leave there goes to other places and stays much longer at their new place. They treat them better.
Two visits to Oaks Massage in Bailey's Crossroads. Both were with Amy, masked, 30/40, slender. She delivers an above-average massage for. 60. For the first visit, 55 minutes on my stomach, with towel on for 25 minutes and bare for the rest. Towel was placed back on for the brief effort on the front. During the second massage, flip happened at the 40-minute mark with luxurious work on legs, stomach and chest. Oil was applied to my cock with about seven minutes to go and did not finish (but, appreciate the effort and attention). .6 + .4 tip.
Downside: Very thin walls. I could almost make out the conversation in the next room. Also, second time, hit them right at lunch and the aroma was pungent until I got in the room.
Upside: Extra-wide tables and spacious rooms that are clean. There are rails on the ceiling that means someone is getting a back walked on. Also, I pointed out sore points, and Amy paid special attention to all of them.
I am not sure it is a special-event type of place, but it hits a lot of the right notes for the price.
First time posting here. I had the pleasure of sampling Pine for the first time and was not disappointed at all. Mamasan let me in and walked me to the room. The place is very clean. In walks Nana, she had me at hello. Nana has good English and she is very pleasant. She was not wearing a mask so I was able to enjoy her beautiful smile. Gave my donation 60 for hhr. She helped me undress which was a pleasant surprise. She led me to the shower which was very clean. The TS was very thorough. It lasted a good 10 minutes. We just connected really and she was not shy about letting me about it. I've never had my ass crack cleaned so well. So I played my charm and asked her for bbj while in the TS, had to plead a little but she obliged. If you've experienced her mouth game you know what I'm talking about. Try your luck while in TS and she what happens. Back to the room, I said screw the massage, I gave her a. 1 and she went back to bbj. I also busted so she slide in the hat off to the races. She did CG and the view was spectacular. Asked her for mish and agreed. Pounded for about 5 minutes then busted in the hat. She cleaned me up and the massaged my shoulders for a few minutes. Overall it was a great first time at pine.
Long time lurker don't post too much tho. But today's a good day for it I had a dream at pine wellness. And had a great dream. 60 for a half hour massage got a little titty action and because I didn't have a rubber insettled for the closest thing to penetration possible. LOL she even offered for me to. Fuck her thighs Lls customer service A1 Well def go back protected to see if it's worth the extra $$$ but over all fantastic dream Lisa takes care of ya.
Please I looked back 2 weeks the abbreviations of some of these MP.
If you would rather pm me please do thanks.
[QUOTE=GxldxnC;5534150]Long time lurker don't post too much tho. But today's a good day for it I had a dream at pine wellness. And had a great dream. 60 for a half hour massage got a little titty action and because I didn't have a rubber insettled for the closest thing to penetration possible. LOL she even offered for me to. Fuck her thighs Lls customer service A1 Well def go back protected to see if it's worth the extra $$$ but over all fantastic dream Lisa takes care of ya.[/QUOTE]Hate to bust your chops fellow monger but this is the reason for so much upselling. You mean to tell me you would actually pay $$$ for any talent at an AMP when I get everything you are hoping to get for $1. 80 - $$. $$$ is absurd. Invest that $$$ for a upscale Escort versus some AMP. I know Pine talent very well. They must have smelled you coming. Sorry man. Don't do it.
[QUOTE=Efltgp;5534351]Please I looked back 2 weeks the abbreviations of some of these MP.
If you would rather pm me please do thanks.[/QUOTE]The recent posts about ST is for Secret Temptation, a sort of "private viewing" type of place hosted in a condo / apartment unit. Not a storefront MP. Google the name and you will find their website.
[QUOTE=Efltgp;5534351]Please I looked back 2 weeks the abbreviations of some of these MP.
If you would rather pm me please do thanks.[/QUOTE]Secret Temptations.
Was driving by and remembered the post about the a short, big titty, older model that allows FS. The short and big tits had me excited since I called and she said she was available. Since I was really 5 minutes away I swung over.
So here is where it went downhill. I arrived and there was a language barrier. I mentioned that I had just called and when I spoke to the woman bringing me to the room she acted like she didn't understand English. I mentioned I wanted the short one and she basically told me that she was going to give the massage. She had a average figure. B / C tits and a little thick around the middle. I should've walked because I really don't like being lied to or playing the I don't understand game when you spoke perfect fucking English on the phone. The reason I stayed was she said in broken English, that she was way better than the other. So I figured I will bite the bullet and try and I can always take a HJ and roll on.
TS was simply safe. She got all the parts but it was mechanical. The massage was actually decent and if you had knots, she would do for that part. The next speed bump was the negotiation. She agreed to a BBBJ for $. FS was available but I didn't find her that attractive. So she dims the lights low. She does the HJ thing and starts to block my view.
Sooooo NEWBIES, if you don't know this trick, learn it NOW. If they turn the lights down low and totally block your view and bob their head not in your view, they are NOT giving you head. Since earlier in my mongering experience I had the displeasure of that bait and switch I knew her game and called her out. Now I had already paid the tip. So I'm pissed. Well she argued and then when I got up to walk out she is pleading to make it better. I wanted to walk but the little head said "well, what can I get now?" Long story short, I got a quick BBBJ, p2 p, and an occasional slippage of my member into her bare. The BBFS wasn't intentional, it occurred a couple of times while sliding and she let it happen a few strokes before pulling out. Probably happened roughly 5-6 times but got my rocks off in the end.
Will not repeat just because I hate bait and switch.
[QUOTE=DoYouKnow;5534361]Hate to bust your chops fellow monger but this is the reason for so much upselling. You mean to tell me you would actually pay $$$ for any talent at an AMP when I get everything you are hoping to get for $1.80 - $$. $$$ is absurd. Invest that $$$ for a upscale Escort versus some AMP. I know Pine talent very well. They must have smelled you coming. Sorry man. Don't do it.[/QUOTE]I miss typed $$ not $$$ but valid tho.
I've been seeing independents for a couple years now, always a little nervous to try AMPs. That all changed six months ago when I visited Comfort in Manassas. I went there a couple times, seeing Emily. I found her very attractive, with a nice massage, but I wanted a little more options when it comes to the menu. I always paid the hour house fee of $60, and always tipped between $40 and $60. She only offered the NOVA finish with utc roaming, both bottom and top. I even offered to raise the tip amount, but no dice. Then after reading some reviews, I tried Eleven in Herndon. My first experience was with Bobbie, paying the $80 house fee. I really enjoyed the TS, which was my first, and the massage. She has a full menu, which I opted for. For FS the price was $150. My next trip to Eleven was with Abby. I really liked her, Her TS was amazing with a lot of teasing. On to the room, where she gave my a very light massage, which I enjoy, that lasted maybe five minutes before starting with a CBJ and FS to complete the hour. Same tip that I gave Bobbie. While I like both ladies very much, I would have to say that Abby is my favorite of the two. The only thing I guess I have to get used to is bringing my own cover. I never had to do that with independents.
I do have a question for the group. I saw on the forum that Eleven is closed for about 30 days. Is there any intel where Bobbie and Abby may be working until they reopen?
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Arty33;5533916]As I said they're worth a visit once in a while, but not worth giving too much info. Ex-BG girls are at ST / DT, 4 of them as of now, Jessie, Candace, Harley, Luna. Then Victoria and Emma at Eden. There have been others in the past, so it's not like you can't see them. It says something about the agency when the girls that leave there goes to other places and stays much longer at their new place. They treat them better.[/QUOTE]Do you remember what Luna and Candace went by?
Trying to figure out if I've seen them.
With all PV, it's always YMMV. However, wondering if anyone routinely gets extras at Eden?
[QUOTE=JustJohn007;5535863]Do you remember what Luna and Candace went by?
Trying to figure out if I've seen them.
With all PV, it's always YMMV. However, wondering if anyone routinely gets extras at Eden?[/QUOTE]Candace went by Aria: https://www.bluegems.com/wp-content/gallery/aria/Aria1.png
[QUOTE=Loader401;5534944]Was driving by and remembered the post about the a short, big titty, older model that allows FS. The short and big tits had me excited since I called and she said she was available. Since I was really 5 minutes away I swung over.
So here is where it went downhill. I arrived and there was a language barrier. I mentioned that I had just called and when I spoke to the woman bringing me to the room she acted like she didn't understand English. I mentioned I wanted the short one and she basically told me that she was going to give the massage. She had a average figure. B / C tits and a little thick around the middle. I should've walked because I really don't like being lied to or playing the I don't understand game when you spoke perfect fucking English on the phone. The reason I stayed was she said in broken English, that she was way better than the other. So I figured I will bite the bullet and try and I can always take a HJ and roll on.
TS was simply safe. She got all the parts but it was mechanical. The massage was actually decent and if you had knots, she would do for that part. The next speed bump was the negotiation. She agreed to a BBBJ for $. FS was available but I didn't find her that attractive. So she dims the lights low. She does the HJ thing and starts to block my view.
Sooooo NEWBIES, if you don't know this trick, learn it NOW. If they turn the lights down low and totally block your view and bob their head not in your view, they are NOT giving you head. Since earlier in my mongering experience I had the displeasure of that bait and switch I knew her game and called her out. Now I had already paid the tip. So I'm pissed. Well she argued and then when I got up to walk out she is pleading to make it better. I wanted to walk but the little head said "well, what can I get now?" Long story short, I got a quick BBBJ, p2 p, and an occasional slippage of my member into her bare. The BBFS wasn't intentional, it occurred a couple of times while sliding and she let it happen a few strokes before pulling out. Probably happened roughly 5-6 times but got my rocks off in the end.
Will not repeat just because I hate bait and switch.[/QUOTE]Kara AMP had been one of my go to places to dream of. A few months ago I had a dream with a good massage, good table shower and more. IN my dream, after the table shower, I offered and gave a massage to the provider. She stripped all but her panties. (did not want rubbing there (perfectly ok)). During the massage I was giving her, my junior happened to become available and she gave him a nice BBBJ while laying on her back on the table. This resulted in a full rocket launch. We cleaned up a bit and an full hour massage was given. 80 House 80 tip and all seemed happy. Great dream.
I have returned twice to this dream. Both returns there was an alternate older provider with fair English. She did not want a massage from me. When I offered 80 tip on top of the 80 house she seemed to agree to the service previously provided. However, instead of a BBBJ the dream moved to a pussy slide. Which was actually quite good. I was happy to provide the 80 tip. However when the dream came to an end she wanted more. I declined. No one likes an upsell. Upsell after agreement is even more unpleasant.
The second return was much shorter. I asked for the previously provided oral service and offered 80+80. She responded with 80 + 180. I said no. She checked with the Mamasan (who was younger than the provider). Negative. $260 for any service at an AMP is way too much for my dreams. I politely declined and left for another dream nearby.
That nearby dream was a conventional NOVA no table shower for 70 +40 with a little nursing thrown in. Very well done and all parted happy.
These places change. Perhaps I will try another dream in a few months.
Please do not overpay. Always be nice to the ladies.
OLDBOOMER.
[QUOTE=MyDogBoofs;5533313]Dreamt I went to Golden Therapy. I just tried it out because it was nearby.
Woman answered the door and she was probably in her 50's, had a mask on the whole time.
Keep in mind, this was my first time and this is my first post. This is all really new to me.
She didn't give me any options, just led me to a room and said it was. 8.
She actually provided a really wonderful massage. I didn't know when to make a move or what to say. But she whispered, it's okay! I was trembling.
No TS but I did get a hot towel and she worked it into my ass a little bit to make sure I was clean I guess!
After the 2nd time she said it's okay, I got the message and flipped and she let my hands roam. She took off her top and she actually had some really nicely shaped perky tits.
I wanted her to take off her mask but she didn't want to.
I flipped and she oiled up her hands to work on the HE. I wanted her to slow down but she eventually stopped listening and I finished laying on my back.
There may be more if I went back but she was really nice and playful. She continued the massage afterwards as well.
4 tip so 1. 20 total. Been thinking about either going back or trying something new.[/QUOTE]Good report -.
[QUOTE=JustJohn007;5535863]Do you remember what Luna and Candace went by?
Trying to figure out if I've seen them.
With all PV, it's always YMMV. However, wondering if anyone routinely gets extras at Eden?[/QUOTE]If you saw Luna, you'll remember her, hot ass and pierced boobs, tight body, pretty face, she was there for a short while so don't recall all these names, all a blur so many girls so much good times. LOL.
Last week I had a day dream that I was at Sung near Annandale. In my day dream one on else was there. My provider was Jay. She had okay body but nice B's. TS made sure I was very clean with a little play with jr. The massage was good. It was not to light or trying to kill me. We had a little small talk before the flip. On the flip I made a deal for CBJ for $. She started with kisses on my leg and move up to let me lick on her nice B's. I dreamt she gave a really good CBJ with out getting tired. I am not a sprinter more long distance. So I tip extra once I know she will put in the work. She did not stop right way when the bag became full. Cleaned me up and gave me a water. I was woken up by a ring phone. Man good day dream.
[QUOTE=RyanHarvey;5535973]Candace went by Aria: https://www.bluegems.com/wp-content/gallery/aria/Aria1.png[/QUOTE]Thank you!
Never saw her there. Guess I can now for $20 less. LOL.
BG has a few new girls. Melanie's pictures look familiar but I can't place her.
I had been hoping Olivia would show up but looks like that ship has sailed.
[QUOTE=Loader401;5534944]Was driving by and remembered the post about the a short, big titty, older model that allows FS. The short and big tits had me excited since I called and she said she was available. Since I was really 5 minutes away I swung over.
So here is where it went downhill. I arrived and there was a language barrier. I mentioned that I had just called and when I spoke to the woman bringing me to the room she acted like she didn't understand English. I mentioned I wanted the short one and she basically told me that she was going to give the massage. She had a average figure. B / C tits and a little thick around the middle. I should've walked because I really don't like being lied to or playing the I don't understand game when you spoke perfect fucking English on the phone. The reason I stayed was she said in broken English, that she was way better than the other. So I figured I will bite the bullet and try and I can always take a HJ and roll on.
TS was simply safe. She got all the parts but it was mechanical. The massage was actually decent and if you had knots, she would do for that part. The next speed bump was the negotiation. She agreed to a BBBJ for $. FS was available but I didn't find her that attractive. So she dims the lights low. She does the HJ thing and starts to block my view.
Sooooo NEWBIES, if you don't know this trick, learn it NOW. If they turn the lights down low and totally block your view and bob their head not in your view, they are NOT giving you head. Since earlier in my mongering experience I had the displeasure of that bait and switch I knew her game and called her out. Now I had already paid the tip. So I'm pissed. Well she argued and then when I got up to walk out she is pleading to make it better. I wanted to walk but the little head said "well, what can I get now?" Long story short, I got a quick BBBJ, p2 p, and an occasional slippage of my member into her bare. The BBFS wasn't intentional, it occurred a couple of times while sliding and she let it happen a few strokes before pulling out. Probably happened roughly 5-6 times but got my rocks off in the end.
Will not repeat just because I hate bait and switch.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, but how did you ask for her over the phone? I don't recall seeing anyone posting any name for that short, big chested lady.
[QUOTE=Sonny13;5535547]I've been seeing independents for a couple years now, always a little nervous to try AMPs. That all changed six months ago when I visited Comfort in Manassas. I went there a couple times, seeing Emily. I found her very attractive, with a nice massage, but I wanted a little more options when it comes to the menu. I always paid the hour house fee of $60, and always tipped between $40 and $60. She only offered the NOVA finish with utc roaming, both bottom and top. I even offered to raise the tip amount, but no dice. Then after reading some reviews, I tried Eleven in Herndon. My first experience was with Bobbie, paying the $80 house fee. I really enjoyed the TS, which was my first, and the massage. She has a full menu, which I opted for. For FS the price was $150. My next trip to Eleven was with Abby. I really liked her, Her TS was amazing with a lot of teasing. On to the room, where she gave my a very light massage, which I enjoy, that lasted maybe five minutes before starting with a CBJ and FS to complete the hour. Same tip that I gave Bobbie. While I like both ladies very much, I would have to say that Abby is my favorite of the two. The only thing I guess I have to get used to is bringing my own cover. I never had to do that with independents.
I do have a question for the group. I saw on the forum that Eleven is closed for about 30 days. Is there any intel where Bobbie and Abby may be working until they reopen?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a good report. While I don't have any information re Bobbie or Abby, I have to say that $150 (in addition to the $80 house fee) for FS is high in my experience here in No. Va. I've paid $120 or, at the most, $140, for this service on top of the house fee and it ordinarily includes more, such as DATY, FIV, BBBJ, etc. I'm curious if you tried to negotiate or just paid what was asked.
[QUOTE=Rhinopole;5536584]Thanks for a good report. While I don't have any information re Bobbie or Abby, I have to say that $150 (in addition to the $80 house fee) for FS is high in my experience here in No. Va. I've paid $120 or, at the most, $140, for this service on top of the house fee and it ordinarily includes more, such as DATY, FIV, BBBJ, etc. I'm curious if you tried to negotiate or just paid what was asked.[/QUOTE]I paid the asking price.
Any recommendations while Eleven is closed?
[QUOTE=JustJohn007;5536413]Thank you!
Never saw her there. Guess I can now for $20 less. LOL.
BG has a few new girls. Melanie's pictures look familiar but I can't place her.
I had been hoping Olivia would show up but looks like that ship has sailed.[/QUOTE]Only read bad things about Aria. Would not recommend. I'd loveeeee to see Olivia again.
I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.
Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Moses357;5532920]Re: There are about 17 reviews on TER. One of the member's claimed he got FS w / BBBJ (didn't say what was the damage). Everyone else was CBT.[/QUOTE]RE: [URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/mclean/12845681.html.[/URL] Updated photo. Don't let her fool you. She is more open to repeats as far as BBBJ.
[QUOTE=SkinnyPete1;5536986]I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.
Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Help getting undressed before the massage, unfasten the belt, unzip the zipper, lower the pants, look up into my eyes, etc. , IMO that is the perfect way to start my one hour relationship.
[QUOTE=Roger1286;5537806]Help getting undressed before the massage, unfasten the belt, unzip the zipper, lower the pants, look up into my eyes, etc. , IMO that is the perfect way to start my one hour relationship.[/QUOTE]If you find that in an AMP, within your first few visits, I'd be very surprised. Perhaps if you build up a really good relationship with a lady at one of those places you might get that. You just have to ask after you develop some rapport / chemistry.
I think you are far more likely to get that with an escort. There was an Asian provider in Denver, CO. That did that to me during our first encounter and it was awesome ([URL]https://www.preferred411.com/P2782[/URL], TER I'd: 36230 - mine is the most recent review, 2017). Actually, there was a full length mirror near the door in my hotel room and she had me next to it, so I could watch. It was AMAZING.
[QUOTE=SkinnyPete1;5536986]I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.
Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It used to be the standard in this area. But then again getting a rim job was a standard lead into the basic hand job back in the day too.
Yea, times have changed.
[QUOTE=Korman23;5536551]Just out of curiosity, but how did you ask for her over the phone? I don't recall seeing anyone posting any name for that short, big chested lady.[/QUOTE]I called and mentioned that last time I was there I saw (insert description) and I didn't get her name. They acted like oh she is here! Come on in! Dammit! They got me. When I got in, I mentioned the same but the game of barely speaking English was played.
[QUOTE=Loader401;5539537]I called and mentioned that last time I was there I saw (insert description) and I didn't get her name. They acted like oh she is here! Come on in! Dammit! They got me. When I got in, I mentioned the same but the game of barely speaking English was played.[/QUOTE]Yea, I have called places and gotten the name wrong. I always get the answer "Yes she here. What time you come? Just did it last week when I got a girls name wrong. Another girl I knew I did not like came out and swore I called for her. Nope. Just picked up and left.
I am still looking for that new ATF thatdoes not have GPS.
[QUOTE=Loader401;5539537]I called and mentioned that last time I was there I saw (insert description) and I didn't get her name. They acted like oh she is here! Come on in! Dammit! They got me. When I got in, I mentioned the same but the game of barely speaking English was played.[/QUOTE]Makes sense and I just wondered. Thanks. Sigh a big breasted woman makes me want to give it a shot too but not sure I will have the time the next few weeks.
[QUOTE=Arty33;5536121]If you saw Luna, you'll remember her, hot ass and pierced boobs, tight body, pretty face, she was there for a short while so don't recall all these names, all a blur so many girls so much good times. LOL.[/QUOTE]Most I have gotten out of Eden is a facial or footjob.
[QUOTE=BigDaddyDon;5538005]It used to be the standard in this area. But then again getting a rim job was a standard lead into the basic hand job back in the day too.
Yea, times have changed.[/QUOTE]I have had many help dressing me. Yes nice touch.
Actually since I am slow to preform and it takes the time, I also got the feeling that some help you dress just to get you out the door quicker. If they are not free, they might miss the next in rotation and lose out on tips. Is my guess, LOL.
HG.
[QUOTE=Rhinopole;5536584]Thanks for a good report. While I don't have any information re Bobbie or Abby, I have to say that $150 (in addition to the $80 house fee) for FS is high in my experience here in No. Va. I've paid $120 or, at the most, $140, for this service on top of the house fee and it ordinarily includes more, such as DATY, FIV, BBBJ, etc. I'm curious if you tried to negotiate or just paid what was asked.[/QUOTE]I am under impression that if house fee is 80, the provider gets part of it. $30 I think at some places. When the fee is like $60 for half hour they might get $20.
SO they make more $ in the long run doing 1/2 hour gigs and also get more tips from more happy mongers. And the house makes more on 1/2 hour visits IF they are busy and guys lined up out the door.
I assume this varies from Korean and Chinese AMPs and even from AMP to AMP.
Key is try to go on slow days and slow times.
I might be wrong and if anyone has good or better info, please share.
I think this is important because their cut of the House amount actually adds on to the tip you give them. So if you go for an hour at 80 house and give her the rest of the 200 you have in your pocket, her tip is 120 plus the 30 she might get from house fee. So when negotiating and she is a good trained negotiator, you can or not, remind her that she is really getting 150 for the transaction.
Remember that they culturally expect to negotiate for anything and everything. It is their cultural nature and they practice at it and develop techniques. They also know if you walk or say no or say just regular massage they have just lost a lot of revenue for the next hour. So the hour can cost them a lot if they don't settle to be reasonable.
Also the closing technique before leaving is for them to typically ask for20 more, please, please. Works sometimes. After all, if you don't ask for it you will never get it. Good sales people are always asking for the order, over and over again.
You have to learn to negotiate back nicely in a fun disarming way. Probably the best way is to look them in the eye and just laugh out loud nicely. And say nothing. First one to talk at that point loses.
I would be interested in how others negotiate and what techniques have and have not worked on them. It tough when you walk in and she give you a sexy vibe and you hug her and she responds by rubbing your Dick and saying "That's nice".
Always smile and be nice to the ladies. Treat them nice and fairly and if you negotiate well, they will treat you very well too. Culturally they do expect you to smile, laugh and not always accept what they are asking for.
What say you?
HG2.
Any intel on Ava? She posts regularly on BP. I've tried searching the forum but it expects at least 4 letter keywords LOL.
[QUOTE=Moses357;5537737]RE: [URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/mclean/12845681.html.[/URL] Updated photo. Don't let her fool you. She is more open to repeats as far as BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Yeah but how much will it cost? I don't even care so much about BBBJ. She's concerned about her safety. I get that. But no FS on the table at all. I'm good on that. I kno better.
[QUOTE=SkinnyPete1;5536986]I know this might be an odd question, but which Korean AMPs actually help you get dressed after the massage? I get satisfaction from that and haven't experienced that in over a decade.
Some spas around Chicago used to do that. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've had that happen before, but only with where I've been a regular or at one of the apartments.
I'd be very surprised to see that at as a first time at any place around here.