BBFS Providers Manhattan

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6341196]Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish![/QUOTE]I agree, as much as I'm preaching about trying to manipulate the market it's not a simple thing. What we can do though is promote other places on the boards to devirt some of the attention. Right now on all the boards it seems like people only talk about a handful of places and most have at least one BBFS friendly girl that is the main focus of discussion. That on our end needs to stop. There are still relatively well priced places that do 8 hr house fee plus whatever tip you negotiate. I was just at K10 the other week and paid 240 hr. It was a more restrained experience and all things covered. But for 240 all in I wasn't complaining. That rate level everyone thought had disappeared. It was 1000% better experience than whatever guys where getting from Kisara at 10 ten.

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6341242]I was just at K10 the other week and paid 240 hr. It was a more restrained experience and all things covered. But for 240 all in I wasn't complaining. That rate level everyone thought had disappeared. It was 1000% better experience than whatever guys where getting from Kisara at 10 ten.[/QUOTE]Not to say that everyone at that price range is dynamite, but there are definitely some good deals out there if you're okay with covered service.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6341196]Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish![/QUOTE]There is a lot of behind the scenes bullshit involved with pricing. For starters, what makes every girl on any given Spa's roster all worth the same price?

I've told mms and bookers before that certain girls are not worth the same price other girls are getting. She agreed with me. She said the problem is if most the girls are 360 and she has another girl at 300 or 320 because no one wants to pay it, that girl starts getting more guest than the higher priced girls, and then the higher priced girls get pissed and threaten to leave. Another problem is there are plenty of girls that offer BBFS for free or at a lower price than other girls they work with. When the girls asking 100 for BBFS and another 100 for cip find out a girl they work with is doing it for less or even for free, the other girls get pissed and then start bullying the girl to charge for it, because it hurts their business.

There is one simple solution to the price gouging that is going on. Just don't fucking pay it, or go to another spa or girl that charges less. It doesn't take too many slow days for a girl or a spa to wake up and bring her prices down.

More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Toy-Toy NYCSE. No idea yet since she's brand new but I assume $200 since she's at this place.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6342192]More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Toy-Toy NYCSE. No idea yet since she's brand new but I assume $200 since she's at this place.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.[/QUOTE]Thanks again this is very helpful! Hopefully the Metrogirls keep offering BBFS and don't close off due to publicity. It's crazy that the some of $200+ are cum outside only.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6342192]More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Toy-Toy NYCSE. No idea yet since she's brand new but I assume $200 since she's at this place.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.[/QUOTE]Awesome list, hope the 2 bens will drop soon. Nowadays if its on short notice that they charge 2 bens at the last min before the raws, usually that'll be the first and last time seeing them LOL. Haven't found one lady that's worth consistent extra 2 bens for raws with great skills to back them up since most are DUDs.

[QUOTE=RazGrizace00;6342197]Thanks again this is very helpful! Hopefully the Metrogirls keep offering BBFS and don't close off due to publicity. It's crazy that the some of $200+ are cum outside only.[/QUOTE]This is where the heavy screening comes in mind so they can weed out the less pleasant exp.

Kisara asked for $300, I showed an extra $180 in my wallet, she said yes, but then I said no. LOL.

She can be negotiated with if you really want to try her.

[QUOTE=TheWholeFnShow;6342401]Kisara asked for $300, I showed an extra $180 in my wallet, she said yes, but then I said no. LOL.

She can be negotiated with if you really want to try her.[/QUOTE]She prob wants to test the market to see how many gold fish she can bait. Nice shot man LOL. If only she didn't cover / blurred her face on pics, I might give a shot. Risky not worthy from the looks of it.

[QUOTE=ImperialHint;6341717]Not to say that everyone at that price range is dynamite, but there are definitely some good deals out there if you're okay with covered service.[/QUOTE]That's true but the same can be said at any price range.

Got some new info.

Toy-Toy NYSCE: $100 cip 30 min, 150 45 min, 200 60 min. Much better pricing model since 30 min is usually 1 pop!

Yukiko NYCSE: says $200 but I think can be had lower since she's on the older side the slim body is better than most 20 yr olds though.

Arisa xoxogirlsny - $200 it seems, someone need to charm her and report back.

Akari xoxogirlsny - $200 it seems, someone need to charm her and report back.

Kisara 10ten - $180 possible claimed, was $300 ask and he said he negotiated it down.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6342192]More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6343220]That's true but the same can be said at any price range.[/QUOTE]Very true. I guess what struck me was that the covered service now seems like more of a deal than it did before because the prices aren't skyrocketing the way that the BBFS prices apparently are. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that you can get 2 covered sessions for the price of 1 BBFS session with more or less the same caliber of provider.

[QUOTE=JonRocket;6342012]There is a lot of behind the scenes bullshit involved with pricing. For starters, what makes every girl on any given Spa's roster all worth the same price?

I've told mms and bookers before that certain girls are not worth the same price other girls are getting. She agreed with me. She said the problem is if most the girls are 360 and she has another girl at 300 or 320 because no one wants to pay it, that girl starts getting more guest than the higher priced girls, and then the higher priced girls get pissed and threaten to leave. Another problem is there are plenty of girls that offer BBFS for free or at a lower price than other girls they work with. When the girls asking 100 for BBFS and another 100 for cip find out a girl they work with is doing it for less or even for free, the other girls get pissed and then start bullying the girl to charge for it, because it hurts their business.

There is one simple solution to the price gouging that is going on. Just don't fucking pay it, or go to another spa or girl that charges less. It doesn't take too many slow days for a girl or a spa to wake up and bring her prices down.[/QUOTE]Totally with you on this one man; there are too many guests paying the steep upgrades which spoils the girls into thinking GPS and eventually led to ruining the free / discounted upgrades. The market would be a lot better if we stick together and not spoil their crazy berserker prices esp with economy like this. This is why we have ATF's for backups in case new girls act GPS and thinking the client base will go along with their plan.

And some GFE only girls are starting to open up for BBFS cas business reasons too.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6341196]Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish![/QUOTE]I concur, so many hidden wallet warriors that pays these spots frequently and spoiling them to point they don't care if prices skyrocket. Needless to say, being kind and nice won't earn much points for free upgrades neither. Always troublemakers ruining the game for us.

But thanks for keep checking on fair deals man.

[QUOTE=ImperialHint;6343296]Very true. I guess what struck me was that the covered service now seems like more of a deal than it did before because the prices aren't skyrocketing the way that the BBFS prices apparently are. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that you can get 2 covered sessions for the price of 1 BBFS session with more or less the same caliber of provider.[/QUOTE]I would agree. I think your spot on there. As I'm finding out here are plenty of covered only places that are still asking 240-280 all in. We just aren't tslking about them anywhere because all focus is on BBFS friendly shops and ladies. Even when people just want covered they will still go to higher priced BBFS shop at the higher base rate. They don't eve. Know to consider some of the other shops now. Like K10 is new but obviously ownership and ladies aren't. The rate is 80 hr plus tip. I did 160 tip for FS with sugar. At 240 all in it was win all day.